I'll bite:,
Akresius,
24-Oct-13 12:17 PM, #16
RE: I'll bite:,
Sarien,
24-Oct-13 01:42 PM, #17
RE: I'll bite:,
Daevryn,
24-Oct-13 05:04 PM, #18
The correct answer is probably,
Anti-Hero,
24-Oct-13 08:13 PM, #19
Gift giver,
Tsunami,
24-Oct-13 11:58 PM, #20
bulga didnt have an air form, you deceiver. nt,
CD,
25-Oct-13 12:32 AM, #21
Well,
Tsunami,
25-Oct-13 09:21 AM, #26
RE: Well,
Bulga (Anonymous),
25-Oct-13 04:16 PM, #27
I now vaguely recall taking you and another shifter to ...,
KaguMaru,
25-Oct-13 05:17 PM, #29
Well..you know exactly why it was removed! tell us at ...,
Sarien,
25-Oct-13 08:28 AM, #24
They did tell us,
laxman,
25-Oct-13 08:31 AM, #25
RE: I'll bite:,
Lhydia,
25-Oct-13 06:03 AM, #22
I loved Bulga,
KaguMaru,
25-Oct-13 07:21 AM, #23
RE: Damn Nep, were you not able to kill Bulga either? ,
Daevryn,
08-Sep-13 10:22 PM, #2
Why was it removed?,
DurNominator,
08-Sep-13 10:26 PM, #3
It's also got huge pvp implications,
Torak,
08-Sep-13 10:28 PM, #4
RE: Why was it removed?,
Daevryn,
08-Sep-13 10:41 PM, #5
Idea: Lesser Schools of Magic,
Mek,
22-Oct-13 03:14 AM, #10
I like this idea.,
Quixotic,
22-Oct-13 08:19 PM, #12
Like... Potions/pills/scrolls/wands/staves?,
laxman,
23-Oct-13 10:36 AM, #14
Related commentary:,
Daevryn,
08-Sep-13 11:04 PM, #6
Don't you think it was probably discussed among the imp...,
Zephon,
08-Sep-13 10:13 PM, #1
Bulga''s views,
Bulga (Anonymous),
21-Oct-13 10:15 PM, #7
RE: Bulga''s views,
Daevryn,
21-Oct-13 11:23 PM, #8
Drama queening.,
Scrimbul,
22-Oct-13 01:50 AM, #9
RE: Bulga''s views,
Demos,
22-Oct-13 06:51 PM, #11
RE: Bulga''s views,
Bulga (Anonymous),
22-Oct-13 11:23 PM, #13
What was your past characters?,
Beer,
23-Oct-13 10:59 AM, #15
RE: What was your past characters?,
Bulga (Anonymous),
25-Oct-13 05:01 PM, #28
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Akresius | Thu 24-Oct-13 12:17 PM |
Member since 15th Nov 2011
280 posts
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#52570, "I'll bite:"
In response to Reply #0
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Having never played a shifter before: What is a Bulga and how is locate object making them overpowered?
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Sarien | Thu 24-Oct-13 01:42 PM |
Member since 14th Feb 2009
740 posts
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#52571, "RE: I'll bite:"
In response to Reply #16
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It allows you to know when enemies you could not normally see are logged on, if you can simply remember something locateable that they wear/carry. For example if you knew some ranger was a huge threat to you, but you also knew they had a skin from the corpse of xyz you would be able to reliably tell when they are online vs not...and adjust playstile accordingly
It is also used in hunting.. c locate corpse/guts/brains/leg/arm etc...to find pieces of stuff people are ranking on
granted the first portion requires maintaining a list of who carries what....however if you put the time in, it can give you a very pronounced edge.
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Daevryn | Thu 24-Oct-13 05:04 PM |
Member since 13th Feb 2007
11117 posts
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#52573, "RE: I'll bite:"
In response to Reply #17
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I don't think that really answers his question.
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Anti-Hero | Thu 24-Oct-13 08:13 PM |
Member since 19th Sep 2013
64 posts
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#52575, "The correct answer is probably"
In response to Reply #18
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He was a super, super gear hoarding shapeshifter that used locate object to gather an insane set and also carried a ton of stuff he didn't use. Was not the biggest risk taker either.
I don't know how much of the above is true honestly, but that seems to be what people were implying.
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Tsunami | Thu 24-Oct-13 11:58 PM |
Member since 25th Mar 2008
1509 posts
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#52577, "Gift giver"
In response to Reply #19
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Three characters (of mine) unrelated to Bulga in any way had Bulga randomly fly up and drop some sweet #### on them. Just throwing that out there.
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CD | Fri 25-Oct-13 12:32 AM |
Member since 05th Jul 2012
279 posts
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#52578, "bulga didnt have an air form, you deceiver. nt"
In response to Reply #20
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Tsunami | Fri 25-Oct-13 09:21 AM |
Member since 25th Mar 2008
1509 posts
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#52583, "Well"
In response to Reply #21
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Maybe I have the wrong gnome in mind.
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#52584, "RE: Well"
In response to Reply #26
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It was indeed the goal of Bulga to help anyone asking for help no mather who is the asker but was polite... Bulga never refuse to gather stuff for them even for youngers) She was keekping a lot of object she was locating,, gathering and giving away to asnyone.. Just to create some chaos and as a protective diplomatic strategy .. A legenndary weapon on a little gnome warrior.. a powerfull set of bandages and other health equipment for a shifter... She was uncabaled and had horror of political affairs but used this 'gift to anyone strategy' to secure good relations with a lot of people caballed or not. From the Emperor Merf to the simple new coming thief.. she was giving all the best she could... And almost everybody was happy to have her as such ... from the powerfull Zhenyen to the simple newcoming ranger...
She was not an assassin and never attack anyone first.. exept ragers.. she was regulary attacking.. so about risk.. ask anyone she was not easy to kill with all her gears and a komodo form. She never refuse anyhelp and took frontal attack everytimes ...
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KaguMaru | Fri 25-Oct-13 05:17 PM |
Member since 15th Sep 2012
805 posts
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#52587, "I now vaguely recall taking you and another shifter to ..."
In response to Reply #27
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Good times that was - full ABS just about managed to get me to flee at convulsing as my first command
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Sarien | Fri 25-Oct-13 08:28 AM |
Member since 14th Feb 2009
740 posts
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#52581, "Well..you know exactly why it was removed! tell us at ..."
In response to Reply #18
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Otherwise, just saying "nope thats not it!" seems unfair and mean!
Seriously though - was it not removed because of the two above uses?
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laxman | Fri 25-Oct-13 08:31 AM |
Member since 18th Aug 2003
1867 posts
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#52582, "They did tell us"
In response to Reply #24
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This is part of an overhaul to make locate spells more class specific. Druids can locate things if natural material, paladins things that are blessed, invokers elemental, etc..
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KaguMaru | Fri 25-Oct-13 07:21 AM |
Member since 15th Sep 2012
805 posts
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#52580, "I loved Bulga"
In response to Reply #22
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The epitome of the uncaballed gnome shifter. These guys are awesome - they always want to rank and fill up your poor lonely group, often providing much-needed tanking, and would I imagine provide great PK fodder too if I actually hunted people who didn't kill me on sight.
Bulga in particular, despite her hoarding of limited barrier was a godsend - I can't the amount of times I'd been dodging fort all day only to see that, praise the lord Bulga is logged on and will tank all the storm giants on Kiadanah at once for no personal gain, simply because I asked nicely.
She had her faults but was overall a positive character who helped other characters build up, with experience and gear, rather than shaving off their con and sac'ing their ####.
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DurNominator | Sun 08-Sep-13 10:26 PM |
Member since 08th Nov 2004
2018 posts
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#51254, "Why was it removed?"
In response to Reply #2
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It was such a handy tool for checking if the mobs had limited gear in and also for figuring out who stole gear from a corpse as Tribunal.
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Torak | Sun 08-Sep-13 10:28 PM |
Member since 15th Feb 2007
1216 posts
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#51255, "It's also got huge pvp implications"
In response to Reply #3
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Finding people who are ranking via body parts/corpses, locating corpses when people die, or seeing if hiding/camo enemies are around.
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Daevryn | Sun 08-Sep-13 10:41 PM |
Member since 13th Feb 2007
11117 posts
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#51256, "RE: Why was it removed?"
In response to Reply #3
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1) Generally, the trend is that less and less people have locate object or at least full locate object. See also: Animism, Blessed Divination, Gravesight, etc.
2) It doesn't really fit the theme of the class and needing to change shape for greater magics.
3) It's one more thing a shifter has over a warrior or other meleeish class for really no good reason.
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Mek | Tue 22-Oct-13 03:14 AM |
Member since 20th Jun 2011
47 posts
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#52534, "Idea: Lesser Schools of Magic"
In response to Reply #5
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Could be worthwhile to give all mage-classes some customization in the form of the lesser spells. Sure, an invoker should never should never be able to turn into a lion, but maybe he learned how to grow some fangs in his downtime at the ol' Miskatonic University. Maybe the Real McCoy locate object could be part of this. Anyways, just a thought.
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Quixotic | Tue 22-Oct-13 08:19 PM |
Member since 09th Feb 2006
837 posts
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#52548, "I like this idea."
In response to Reply #10
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Put the various utility spells into schools which can be acquired in a way similar to thief paths.
Helluva lot of work, but it would certainly transform the study of magic and create a huge variety of magic combinations to abuse.
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laxman | Wed 23-Oct-13 10:36 AM |
Member since 18th Aug 2003
1867 posts
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#52559, "Like... Potions/pills/scrolls/wands/staves?"
In response to Reply #12
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Zephon | Sun 08-Sep-13 10:13 PM |
Member since 21st Mar 2007
488 posts
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#51252, "Don't you think it was probably discussed among the imp..."
In response to Reply #0
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You act like it is just Nep's decision.
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#52526, "Bulga''s views"
In response to Reply #1
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Im playing this game since 1994.. I did start to help me learn English and it was fun to join pleasure and utility. I am stoping playing now because its less funny.. it seem each year something is removed for us players maybe to add something for Immortals.. I dont know.. Im just a simple players... Now Im leaving because of this last decision. Bulga was using this spell to generate chaos and pay tributes for peace .. It work perfectly.. Maybe too much.. I dont care much anymore Bulga will die soon I suppose. Its sure a fact... stuff will be harder to get... for some.. harder mabe better... how many items I saw on mobs during all those years using this spell... I suppose Imm prefer to see those with theirs stuff instead of players... it was so strange to see iullusionary items appears.. come on! Anyway.. I dont mind much.. I will just be my final word ... See you all on another realm.
Salut tous les québécois!
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Daevryn | Mon 21-Oct-13 11:23 PM |
Member since 13th Feb 2007
11117 posts
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#52529, "RE: Bulga''s views"
In response to Reply #7
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I don't even know what to make of this word salad. I really don't.
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Demos | Tue 22-Oct-13 06:51 PM |
Member since 20th Apr 2003
211 posts
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#52546, "RE: Bulga''s views"
In response to Reply #7
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Haha don't leave! We can unite Ontario and Quebec can rule this world! I'll role healer you role whatever you want and we'll Démolir le monde. Je vais jouer guérisseur vous rock quelle que soit la classe que vous voulez
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#52552, "RE: Bulga''s views"
In response to Reply #11
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Hyyyyyaaaa! Its tempting!
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Beer | Wed 23-Oct-13 10:59 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
322 posts
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#52560, "What was your past characters?"
In response to Reply #7
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Je me demande seulement si t'es celui qui m'a initié au jeu haha.
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#52585, "RE: What was your past characters?"
In response to Reply #15
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