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#48397, "Swashbuckler Edge"
Edited on Thu 10-Jan-13 05:52 PM
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Would it be possible to get some details of the Swashbuckler edge for bards?
Here is what I think it does (which may or may not be true).
--> Swashbuckler edge performs (i) evade AND (ii) dodge checks based on a person's charisma instead of dexterity. So a human with 20 dex / 23 charisma and the Swashbuckler edge will evade AND dodge as if such human had 23 dex.
--> With respect to -dex maledictions, it performs a "riddle lite" effect. To use Zulg's example - -10 dex would feel like -6 dex.
Is this right? Did I miss any other effects?
Thank you in advance.
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RE: Swashbuckler Edge,
Daevryn,
10-Jan-13 09:40 PM, #1
Mucho gracias!,
Aearonor (Anonymous),
10-Jan-13 10:34 PM, #2
Hrm?,
Valkenar,
11-Jan-13 01:00 PM, #3
RE: Hrm?,
Daevryn,
11-Jan-13 06:53 PM, #6
So, does that mean....,
conjurer1,
11-Jan-13 01:02 PM, #4
It used to work the way you state.,
TMNS,
11-Jan-13 01:46 PM, #5
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Daevryn | Thu 10-Jan-13 09:40 PM |
Member since 13th Feb 2007
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#48402, "RE: Swashbuckler Edge"
In response to Reply #0
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>Would it be possible to get some details of the Swashbuckler >edge for bards? > >Here is what I think it does (which may or may not be true). > > >--> Swashbuckler edge performs (i) evade AND (ii) dodge >checks based on a person's charisma instead of dexterity. So >a human with 20 dex / 23 charisma and the Swashbuckler edge >will evade AND dodge as if such human had 23 dex.
Pretty much.
>--> With respect to -dex maledictions, it performs a "riddle >lite" effect. To use Zulg's example - -10 dex would feel like >-6 dex.
Nope. Dropping your dex is as effective in killing dodge/evade as it ever is.
It's a pretty significant boost when dex (or chr) maledictions aren't in play, which in most (if, obviously, not all) fights they aren't.
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#48403, "Mucho gracias!"
In response to Reply #1
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Valkenar | Fri 11-Jan-13 01:00 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#48413, "Hrm?"
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>It's a pretty significant boost when dex (or chr) maledictions >aren't in play, which in most (if, obviously, not all) fights >they aren't.
If your swashbuckled dodge is based on charisma rather than dex wouldn't it protect from dex maladictions? Or does the "somewhat more charismatic" mean that if your charisma - dexterity > 10 (for example) that your dodge reverts to being based on modified dex?
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Daevryn | Fri 11-Jan-13 06:53 PM |
Member since 13th Feb 2007
11117 posts
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#48416, "RE: Hrm?"
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Consider it to work like this:
If your CHR is higher than your DEX, use your CHR in place of DEX for dodge/evade. But: this can only raise your effective DEX by a maximum of X points. So if your current DEX is 10 and your CHR is 23, you get an effective DEX of 10+X rather than 23 because X is less than 13.
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conjurer1 | Fri 11-Jan-13 01:02 PM |
Member since 10th Jan 2013
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#48414, "So, does that mean...."
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That even with the Swashbuckler edge and a 23 chr, if I take -dex maladictions, dodge and evade are hampered as normal, even though my Chr is still 23?
Or, does it mean that If I am a bard and take the Swashbuckler edge, then get caltrapsed, kotegaeshied (with crunchiness), kansetsuwazaed (with crunchiness), and Axe Kicked (with crunchiness), so that my dex is dropped to 3, but I have a ton of +str gear to keep my strength at 20 and my charisma remains at 23, that I will still dodge and evade as normal, since the edge checks Chr instead of dex because it's an improvement?(Run-on sentences. You gotta love em.)
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