![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Is Fort Guy going to gang you? Are there mages in rang...,
TMNS,
17-Feb-12 06:03 PM, #4
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) we are not on the same page,
quas (Anonymous),
17-Feb-12 01:47 PM, #1
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I could be wrong..,
Tac,
17-Feb-12 02:44 PM, #2
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: we are not on the same page,
Isildur,
17-Feb-12 05:39 PM, #3
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: we are not on the same page,
HammerSong ,
17-Feb-12 07:43 PM, #5
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) So...,
Tsunami,
17-Feb-12 08:32 PM, #6
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: So...,
HammerSong ,
18-Feb-12 11:28 AM, #12
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: disappoint?,
Splntrd,
18-Feb-12 11:46 AM, #14
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Dude...,
Tsunami,
19-Feb-12 12:38 PM, #22
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: So...,
ORB,
18-Feb-12 08:14 PM, #16
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: So...,
HammerSong ,
18-Feb-12 10:20 PM, #17
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I'd like to see a LOT more of both,
Artificial,
18-Feb-12 11:35 PM, #19
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: I'd like to see a LOT more of both,
ORB,
19-Feb-12 01:25 AM, #21
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: So...,
ORB,
19-Feb-12 01:22 AM, #20
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: we are not on the same page,
Isildur,
17-Feb-12 10:41 PM, #7
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I think the key term is hunt.,
TMNS,
17-Feb-12 11:08 PM, #8
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: I think the key term is hunt.,
Isildur,
18-Feb-12 01:17 AM, #9
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) How does your position match up with this:,
Tac,
18-Feb-12 10:26 AM, #10
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: How does your position match up with this:,
HammerSong ,
18-Feb-12 11:05 AM, #11
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) But if the other guy is clearly chasing you, you can in...,
DurNominator,
18-Feb-12 03:23 PM, #15
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: But if the other guy is clearly chasing you, you ca...,
HammerSong ,
18-Feb-12 10:21 PM, #18
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: How does your position match up with this:,
Isildur,
19-Feb-12 04:44 PM, #23
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: How does your position match up with this:,
HammerSong ,
20-Feb-12 12:27 AM, #24
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) The Key to Me.,
Kalageadon,
18-Feb-12 11:15 AM, #13
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TMNS | Fri 17-Feb-12 06:03 PM |
Member since 10th Jun 2009
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#43525, "Is Fort Guy going to gang you? Are there mages in rang..."
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Do you have the items?
Is it someone who always attacks you no matter what?
Basically, with Ghrimriddor I asked there if it was cool if I attacked Poerlouge and a couple other "non-enemies" that would attack me everytime they saw me (and in the case of the bloody bard, sleep + rape).
But, at the same time, there were often Tribunal assassins that would try to assassinate me (while wanted) that I would not try to kill, various warriors, etc.
It's all in the role and the current leadership of the village.
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#43514, "we are not on the same page"
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-Say I'm an evil rager. On Monday I'm attacked by FortGuy. I make him flee and nobody dies. He's not a mage.
-On Tuesday I'm walking down Eastern and see FortGuy. Can I punk him?
In this situation I would generally say yes. As a villager you have a right to defend yourself from a plausable threat and may even iniate combat to affect that. The key in this example is that the two people happened upon each other and the villager reacted to protect themselves in this encounter. The rest of your stuff about mages being online doesn't even matter.
The behavior I am refering to is the distinction between fighting and hunting.
If for example you are hunting for mages and see fortguy solo killing dark arial guards you can't run up and kill them.
Obviously in this case they are engaged in something else so you can't claim self defense.
To go back to your original example if you see fortguy on east road and notice he is moving towards galadon and decide to follow him. Then track them to the inn, then follow them into voralia, then along shepards row to tir-talath and then attack them in tir talath when they are obviously trying to avoid you you have crossed the line from attacking to hunting and at that point your behaviour becomes out of bounds.
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Tac | Fri 17-Feb-12 02:44 PM |
Member since 15th Nov 2005
2050 posts
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#43521, "I could be wrong.."
In response to Reply #1
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But as much as I'd love to see a definitive Battle God answer on this, it seems unlikely given that it would be seen as a direct endorsement or condemnation of active characters. So at best, you are looking at getting say, Twist's thoughts, which while useful, are not Thror's and so don't carry the weight of someone who can actually do something about it.
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Tsunami | Fri 17-Feb-12 08:32 PM |
Member since 25th Mar 2008
1509 posts
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#43528, "So..."
In response to Reply #5
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A slap on the wrist, but nothing major for first couple offenses? Could be why you see some peoples' perspectives get skewed into thinking "it's ok" to do or it "goes unpunished."
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Splntrd | Sat 18-Feb-12 11:46 AM |
Member since 08th Feb 2004
1096 posts
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#43538, "RE: disappoint?"
In response to Reply #12
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The policy as you've described it here is a good one. Splntrd
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Tsunami | Sun 19-Feb-12 12:38 PM |
Member since 25th Mar 2008
1509 posts
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#43561, "Dude..."
In response to Reply #12
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You read me wrong. I'm not disappointed. That makes complete sense to me. Was pointing out to players why their assumptions are so bad all the time.
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ORB | Sat 18-Feb-12 08:14 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#43547, "RE: So..."
In response to Reply #6
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Not sure if you saw Pyrox's slap on the wrist but it was setting DB back down to 75% from 100%. That takes a long ass time to get back up. That which does not kill us, makes us stronger.
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ORB | Sun 19-Feb-12 01:25 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#43552, "RE: I'd like to see a LOT more of both"
In response to Reply #19
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You say that because you don't think it would ever happen to you. And yes people stop playing over that kind of thing. Why? Because in many players eyes an event like that has ruined the character, whether it's true or not. That which does not kill us, makes us stronger.
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TMNS | Fri 17-Feb-12 11:08 PM |
Member since 10th Jun 2009
2670 posts
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#43531, "I think the key term is hunt."
In response to Reply #7
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If you are Joe Elf Rager and you see random orc in range on the Open Sea, I think you can attack them.
It's chasing them back through Hamsah, Eastern, Voralian, and then the orc village that's probably bad.
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Tac | Sat 18-Feb-12 10:26 AM |
Member since 15th Nov 2005
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#43534, "How does your position match up with this:"
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V: Never should you pursue those who are not our true enemies without the leave of the Gods of Battle. This includes those who hunt you as an individual, for whatever reason or cause they choose to embrace. If pursued by those who so dispute your beliefs, and if you are unable to avoid them, make a stand and defend those beliefs, but do not draw the Village into your personal battles.
The way I read it, it looks a lot more like, you don't chase someone from Open Sea to anywhere. You beat them up and try to make them run away and kill them if they don't. If you are forced to retreat, you probably don't run to the village since that would potentially "draw the Village into your personal battles". At the very least you don't get other villagers involved if at all possible.
I don't think my villagers have been played that way, but then I can't think of a villager I played that had personal enemies to really worry about... They had so many real enemies, there wasn't a need to go after personal conflicts.
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DurNominator | Sat 18-Feb-12 03:23 PM |
Member since 08th Nov 2004
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#43540, "But if the other guy is clearly chasing you, you can in..."
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Let's say that Joe the Fort elf bard spots Bob the Battle fire warrior on eastern road. Bob runs from Joe and goes to sit in the top corner of Aldevari, out of anyone's path. Is Bob allowed to spam 'bash Joe' in his corner?
I would understand that the answer to this is yes, Bob is allowed to spam bash joe in this situation. However, Bob is not allowed to run and chase to attack Joe. If I've understood correctly, Bob is also not allowed to stand in an important road, wait and spam 'bash joe', waiting for Joe to pass by. But if Bob stands in a remote corner that no-one really needs to come to, telling Joe to not come near, I would consider it OK to bash in that situation. Is my reasoning correct?
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Kalageadon | Sat 18-Feb-12 11:15 AM |
Member since 23rd Oct 2003
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#43537, "The Key to Me."
In response to Reply #9
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It is always paramount that the real and true enemy is hunted and that no one, NO ONE, detract from said goal of killing magi. This being said, then anyone whom you allow yourself to have a grudge against is a detraction from the real goal of the village.
Much of this happening as above was, in the past, handled at the lowest level possible ie other villagers, drillmaster, leader, as they have the biggest say in day to day affairs of the village.
Those named Hunted by Battle are a different story and as such, are an annoyance that they are considered Mage Like, in that they are or have killed many villager, assaulted the village many times, constantly travel with mages, and have been noticed doing this by the Immortals.
This is my opinion as a serial villager, Multi-Village Leader and as a player who likes the cabal above the others.
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