What stats is "Space Between Heartbeats" based on? Was this legacy tweaked somehow in the last half year?

>What stats is "Space Between Heartbeats" based on?

Wis & Dex

>Was this legacy tweaked somehow in the last half year?

Not that I can tell

So long, and thanks for all the fish!

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I'm kind of skeptical that you're remembering correctly given there's absolutely nothing in the help file to suggest wisdom is important:

Those warriors who honed their reflexes to the precision demanded by the
technique of Space Between Heartbeats were said to be faster than thought.
Though not especially forceful, their strikes were masterpieces of rapid
acceleration, beginning and ending in one instant. Their hallmark technique
was to hover near their foe, daring them to take their eyes off them for
that one instant they coveted. Foes who distracted themselves with picking
up items, rummaging through packs, fumbling with backup weapons, and the
like while fending off these warriors often found themselves on the receiving
end of strikes they never saw, delivered in the Space Between Heartbeats.

"Space Between Heartbeats were said to be faster than thought."

It's faster than thought because I'm so wise I don't even need to think about it. I've done it before millions of times. Muscle memory/wisdom.

That means the warriors who used Space were fast. How fast? Faster than thought. As I read it, it certainly doesn't mean they were fast thinkers.

Having just read Zulg's reply, though, I'm totally wrong. Which makes me think the help file needs updating in order to highlight the fact that wisdom plays a part.

Of what "wisdom" is supposed to be. Inherent knowledge, instinctual, without intellectual contemplation. For someone to be "faster than thought" means they are capable of reacting instinctively, rather than analytically.

what I was going for, only further elucidated. Thank you.

Instinct and reflex aren't wisdom.

It isn't super clear (nor is much of anything in CF help files) and it wouldn't hurt to update the helpfile, but when I first read it I thought wisdom as well. Only because I found out wisdom affects a different legacy and then I went through and read them all as carefully as possible trying to find those connections. This is one I remember noticing.

Here are some definitions from dictionary.com:

Wisdom:
1. the ability or result of an ability to think and ACT utilizing knowledge, experience, understanding, common sense, and insight

Reflex:
7. any automatic, unthinking, often habitual behavior or response.

These support you since one is to think and act on past experience and the other is unthinking.

However, this is how I look at it:

Wisdom, knowledge based on experience. Someone who fights with a certain weapon often is very wise in its usage even though we consider his moves to be instinctual because they happen so fast.

In real hand-to-hand combat training we learn to act "instinctually" by repition. You do something over and over commiting it to muscle memory. This could be seen as "wisdom" since it is something you learn to do instinctually through experience.

Maybe a stretch, but it makes sense to me. The line between acting on wisdom and instinct is very thin. If existant at all. Unless we are talking instinct in the evolutionary (probably a better word for this) sense where beings are born with the knowledge to do certain things.

"One can never fully define something, only describe it in greater detail."

However, when you're trying to decide how to reflect instinct in stats in a game you only have a limited number of choices. Dexterity is already well known as, in part, being the physical "speed" element of stats. Intelligence is known as the analytical stat, determining how fast you learn skills and spells (but very importantly not how large % skill gains you recieve from the various bonuses). That leaves Wisdom to being that inherent knowledge, aptitude for "feeling things out" and instinct. Thus, why Wis affects # of practices, size of % skill gains when more than 1% is possible, and finally in the affects of legacies like STSF and Space.

I take ginkgo biloba! =P