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ZulghinlourSun 12-Dec-10 01:04 PM
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#36338, "Helpfile a day for 30 days..."


          

We've got a backlog of helpfiles that need to get written, and some that need to get updated. I'm taking on the task of writing/updating at least one helpfile a day for 30 days.

So long, and thanks for all the fish!

  

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Reply Impressive and well done as always. nt, Kalageadon, 12-Dec-10 04:16 PM, #63
Reply And with that...I call this project complete, Zulghinlour, 12-Dec-10 01:24 PM, #61
Reply Treat yourself to a doubleshout of eggnog, my man., TMNS, 12-Dec-10 01:58 PM, #62
Reply Seriously. Thanks for your work, Gaplemo, 13-Dec-10 02:43 PM, #64
Reply 12/10 - Updated all race helpfiles, Zulghinlour, 12-Dec-10 01:21 PM, #60
Reply 12/9 - Fortress Edges, Zulghinlour, 12-Dec-10 01:02 PM, #59
Reply 12/8 - Edge: Racial Champion, Zulghinlour, 12-Dec-10 03:17 AM, #56
Reply Huh, must have missed this in Santa Zulg., TMNS, 12-Dec-10 04:55 AM, #57
     Reply It's an Immortal reward only, not something you can pic..., Zulghinlour, 12-Dec-10 11:33 AM, #58
Reply 12/7 - Edge: Pure of Heart, Zulghinlour, 12-Dec-10 03:16 AM, #55
Reply 12/6 - Battlerager Edges, Zulghinlour, 12-Dec-10 03:16 AM, #54
Reply 12/5 - Outlander Edges, Zulghinlour, 12-Dec-10 02:05 AM, #53
Reply 12/4 - Cabal Hideout, Zulghinlour, 08-Dec-10 02:57 AM, #52
Reply 11/30 - Empire Edges, Zulghinlour, 03-Dec-10 02:13 AM, #51
Reply 12/3 - Nexus Edges, Zulghinlour, 08-Dec-10 02:46 AM, #50
Reply 12/2 - Tribunal Edges, Zulghinlour, 03-Dec-10 02:30 AM, #49
Reply 12/1 - Herald Edges, Zulghinlour, 03-Dec-10 02:16 AM, #48
Reply 11/29 - Scion Edges, Zulghinlour, 03-Dec-10 02:12 AM, #47
Reply Updated: Detect Artifact, Zulghinlour, 19-Nov-10 11:24 AM, #45
Reply 11/28 - Updated Racial Edge List, Zulghinlour, 27-Nov-10 12:53 PM, #44
Reply Added: Oblivious, Adeglicfh, 14-Nov-10 10:43 PM, #43
Reply Added: Druid Edges, Zulghinlour, 15-Nov-10 10:37 PM, #42
Reply Added: Relinquish, Zulghinlour, 17-Nov-10 04:36 PM, #41
Reply Added: conscription, Zulghinlour, 20-Nov-10 12:25 PM, #40
Reply 11/27 - Added 4 Familiar skills, Zulghinlour, 25-Nov-10 11:16 AM, #39
Reply Added: Justiciar Badge & Vindicator Insignia, Zulghinlour, 21-Nov-10 12:11 PM, #38
Reply 11/26 - Added Good Familiars, Zulghinlour, 25-Nov-10 11:16 AM, #37
Reply Familiar long descriptions, Straklaw, 29-Nov-10 01:51 AM, #46
Reply 11/25 - Added Neutral Familiars, Zulghinlour, 25-Nov-10 11:15 AM, #36
Reply 11/24 - Added: Evil Familiars, Zulghinlour, 25-Nov-10 11:15 AM, #35
Reply Added: 6 flaws, Zulghinlour, 23-Nov-10 05:01 PM, #34
Reply Added: Flaw list, Zulghinlour, 22-Nov-10 11:34 AM, #33
Reply Added: 3 edges, Zulghinlour, 18-Nov-10 09:12 PM, #32
Reply Added: Aran'gird, Adeglicfh, 18-Nov-10 06:32 PM, #31
Reply Added: Imperial Recruiter, Zulghinlour, 17-Nov-10 09:15 PM, #30
Reply Update: Master of Garrotte, Adeglicfh, 16-Nov-10 08:12 PM, #27
Reply Added: Ranger Edges, Zulghinlour, 16-Nov-10 11:35 AM, #16
Reply Added: Cabalwars, Zulghinlour, 15-Nov-10 08:54 PM, #11
Reply Added: Death Taboo, Adeglicfh, 14-Nov-10 10:43 PM, #5
Reply Clarification?, Valkenar, 15-Nov-10 09:36 AM, #8
Reply Added: Maran powers, Zulghinlour, 14-Nov-10 11:32 AM, #4
Reply Re: eyes of flame, DurNominator, 15-Nov-10 01:12 AM, #6
Reply RE: Re: eyes of flame, Isildur, 15-Nov-10 04:03 PM, #9
     Reply Updated for both (n/t), Zulghinlour, 15-Nov-10 08:55 PM, #12
Reply Aegis, Kourin (Anonymous), 15-Nov-10 09:25 AM, #7
     Reply RE: Aegis, Rayihn, 15-Nov-10 08:01 PM, #10
          Reply RE: Aegis, kourin (Anonymous), 16-Nov-10 05:27 AM, #13
          Reply The Aegis > the zeal for shifter, Abernyte, 16-Nov-10 07:19 AM, #14
          Reply RE: The Aegis > the zeal for shifter, Zulghinlour, 16-Nov-10 11:41 AM, #18
          Reply As the person who wrote Fiera'rroga Aegis...., Daevryn, 17-Nov-10 12:55 AM, #28
               Reply I don't know about 10/10, but at least 8/10..., TMNS, 17-Nov-10 04:09 AM, #29
          Reply plus dam doesn't seem to affect shifters in form, laxman, 16-Nov-10 08:06 AM, #15
          Reply Plus dam DOES affect forms, Zulghinlour, 16-Nov-10 11:40 AM, #17
               Reply RE: Plus dam DOES affect forms, sorlag (Anonymous), 16-Nov-10 12:26 PM, #19
                    Reply Um, Drag0nSt0rm, 16-Nov-10 01:28 PM, #20
                         Reply Correct (n/t), Zulghinlour, 16-Nov-10 01:29 PM, #21
                              Reply and there are no caps on this?, laxman, 16-Nov-10 01:46 PM, #22
                                   Reply RE: and there are no caps on this?, Zulghinlour, 16-Nov-10 03:57 PM, #23
                                   Reply What you are saying jives with me., TMNS, 16-Nov-10 04:29 PM, #25
                                   Reply I believe, Drag0nSt0rm, 16-Nov-10 03:59 PM, #24
          Reply RE: Aegis, Kalageadon, 16-Nov-10 06:51 PM, #26
Reply Updated: Holy Brigade of the Phoenix, Zulghinlour, 13-Nov-10 03:25 PM, #3
Reply Updated: Acolytes of the Golden Sun, Zulghinlour, 12-Nov-10 09:31 PM, #1
     Reply Helpfile request., Razoul, 12-Nov-10 11:34 PM, #2

KalageadonSun 12-Dec-10 04:16 PM
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#36672, "Impressive and well done as always. nt"
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nt

  

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ZulghinlourSun 12-Dec-10 01:24 PM
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#36670, "And with that...I call this project complete"
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This effort cleared up a huge backlog of missing helps. Every edge that anyone could possibly get now have helpfiles. Every cabal power now has a helpfile. A bunch of updated data in some of the more important helpfiles.

Happy holidays.

So long, and thanks for all the fish!

  

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TMNSSun 12-Dec-10 01:58 PM
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#36671, "Treat yourself to a doubleshout of eggnog, my man."
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As always, you da man Z.

  

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#36673, "Seriously. Thanks for your work"
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Merry xmas pappa zulg

  

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ZulghinlourSun 12-Dec-10 01:21 PM
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#36669, "12/10 - Updated all race helpfiles"
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They show specific resistances and vulnerabilities for each race now.

e.g. from help duergar

Vulnerable to: Holy, Light, Whitesteel
Resistant to : Magic, Poison, Disease

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ZulghinlourSun 12-Dec-10 01:02 PM
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#36668, "12/9 - Fortress Edges"
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http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=Pupil+of+Aarn

http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=Pupil+of+Baerinika

http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=Fortress+Guardian

http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=Pupil+of+Corrlaan

http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=Altruistic+Reputation

http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=Mantle+of+Righteousness

http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=Spiritual+Perspicacity

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ZulghinlourSun 12-Dec-10 03:17 AM
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#36664, "12/8 - Edge: Racial Champion"
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http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=Racial+Champion

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#36665, "Huh, must have missed this in Santa Zulg."
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Kudos. I'm sure a lot of dwarf goodies appreciate this.

  

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ZulghinlourSun 12-Dec-10 11:33 AM
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#36666, "It's an Immortal reward only, not something you can pic..."
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n/t

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ZulghinlourSun 12-Dec-10 03:16 AM
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#36663, "12/7 - Edge: Pure of Heart"
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http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=Pure+of+Heart

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#36662, "12/6 - Battlerager Edges"
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http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=Defiant+Resistance

http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=Magic+Repellent

http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=Field+Medic

http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=Magic%27s+Bane

http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=Redemptive+Poultice

http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=Dispelling+Critical

http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=Astute+Discernment

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#36661, "12/5 - Outlander Edges"
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http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=Strength+of+the+Ancients

http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=Spirit+of+the+Wind

http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=Persistent+Windwalk

http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=Preserver

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#36643, "12/4 - Cabal Hideout"
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http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=cabal+hideout

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ZulghinlourWed 08-Dec-10 02:47 AM
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#36602, "11/30 - Empire Edges"
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http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=CENTURION+TRAINER

http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=SECT+CHAMPION

http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=ORDERLY+FINANCIER

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ZulghinlourWed 08-Dec-10 02:46 AM
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#36642, "12/3 - Nexus Edges"
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http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=Champion+of+Balance

http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=Smite+Imbalance

http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=Magic%27s+Might

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#36605, "12/2 - Tribunal Edges"
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http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=CONSTABLE

http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=Increased+STipend

http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=long+sequester

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#36603, "12/1 - Herald Edges"
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http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=bartender%27s+instincts

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#36601, "11/29 - Scion Edges"
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http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=DARK+TIES

http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=NIGHT+WARRIOR

http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=EYES+OF+THE+ACCURSED

http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=PORTAL+ADEPT

http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=DRUK%27TRAR+SWARM

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#36470, "Updated: Detect Artifact"
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http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=Detect+Artifact

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#36542, "11/28 - Updated Racial Edge List"
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Edited on Sat 27-Nov-10 12:53 PM

          

http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=Racial+Edge+List

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#36362, "Added: Oblivious"
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Added
http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=OBLIVIOUS

  

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#36376, "Added: Druid Edges"
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http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=Topical+Tracer

http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=Oak%27s+Wisdom

http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=Ecological+Conservator

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#36452, "Added: Relinquish"
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http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=Relinquish

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#36472, "Added: conscription"
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http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=CONSCRIPTION

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#36517, "11/27 - Added 4 Familiar skills"
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http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=IMPCURSE
http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=POISONFOOD
http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=WISHGRANT
http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=FAERIEFIRE

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#36480, "Added: Justiciar Badge & Vindicator Insignia"
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http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=VINDICATOR+INSIGNIA
http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=JUSTICIAR+BADGE

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#36516, "11/26 - Added Good Familiars"
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http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=GOOD+FAMILIARS

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#36550, "Familiar long descriptions"
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All the descriptions you have in the helpfiles appear to be the descriptions of the "upgraded" familiars. I'd assume as far as people reading helpfiles, the regular descriptions might be more useful for people.

  

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#36515, "11/25 - Added Neutral Familiars"
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http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=NEUTRAL+FAMILIARS

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#36514, "11/24 - Added: Evil Familiars"
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http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=EVIL+FAMILIARS

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#36488, "Added: 6 flaws"
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http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?id=772 // WEAK
http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?id=3120 // COWARD
http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=CONSPICUOUS
http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=RUSHING+ADRENALINE
http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=THICK+FUR
http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=LIGHTNING+ROD

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#36483, "Added: Flaw list"
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http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=FLAW+LIST

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#36469, "Added: 3 edges"
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http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=Underphase

http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=Purity+of+the+Righteous

http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=Shield+of+the+Vulnerable

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#36467, "Added: Aran'gird"
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Added:
http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=Aran%27gird

  

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#36455, "Added: Imperial Recruiter"
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http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=IMPERIAL+RECRUITER

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AdeglicfhTue 16-Nov-10 08:08 PM
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#36393, "Update: Master of Garrotte"
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Edited on Tue 16-Nov-10 08:12 PM

          

Updated:
http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=MASTER+OF+THE+GARROTTE

  

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ZulghinlourTue 16-Nov-10 11:35 AM
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#36380, "Added: Ranger Edges"
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http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=BARKSKIN+OF+THE+PINE+SAP

http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=Persistant+Filth

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ZulghinlourMon 15-Nov-10 08:54 PM
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#36374, "Added: Cabalwars"
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http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=cabalwars

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AdeglicfhSun 14-Nov-10 10:42 PM
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#36361, "Added: Death Taboo"
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Edited on Sun 14-Nov-10 10:43 PM

          

Added:
http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=DEATH+TABOO

  

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ValkenarMon 15-Nov-10 09:36 AM
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#36365, "Clarification?"
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This applies only to PC corpses, correct? I made a test character and was able to loot mobs. Maybe just tweak it to say:

A character with this flaw is unwilling or unable to touch PC corpses other than their own. This includes butchering, carving, skinning, or looting them.

  

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ZulghinlourSun 14-Nov-10 11:32 AM
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#36359, "Added: Maran powers"
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http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=FIERA%27RROGA+AEGIS+FIERARROGA

http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=eyes+of+flame

http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=phoenix+brand

http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=CRY+OF+DELIVERANCE

http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?id=3064

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DurNominatorMon 15-Nov-10 01:11 AM
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#36363, "Re: eyes of flame"
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This allows them to detect evil presences, and when they sense the
dark presence of a necromancer or anti-paladin to strike swiftly.


This is just my opinion, but wouldn't the sentence flow better if the order was:

This allows them to detect evil presences, and to strike swiftly when they sense the dark presence of a necromancer or (an) anti-paladin.

Dunno if you should add that other article I just did (in parenthesis). Mainly this is about the order. I think it would be better to emphasize the action, then explaining the prerequisite.

  

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IsildurMon 15-Nov-10 04:03 PM
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#36369, "RE: Re: eyes of flame"
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I don't so much care about grammar, but it might be useful to point out that it only works when the maran can *see* the evil necro/ap.

  

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ZulghinlourMon 15-Nov-10 08:55 PM
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#36375, "Updated for both (n/t)"
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n/t

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Kourin (Anonymous)Mon 15-Nov-10 09:25 AM
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#36364, "Aegis"
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Why don't shifters get Aegis? I get dispelled at least as much as any of the other mage classes when fighting other mages....

  

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RayihnMon 15-Nov-10 08:01 PM
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#36373, "RE: Aegis"
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We talked about it but ended up deciding shifters would in general rather have the + dam from Zeal. Would you prefer Aegis instead?

  

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kourin (Anonymous)Tue 16-Nov-10 05:27 AM
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#36377, "RE: Aegis"
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Hmmm Dang, I didn't realize they got Zeal..... I totally missed it. As a shifter, I don't know, Part of me wants to be able to keep my protections up in combat, but Yeah, I guess I would like the +Dam too. Now I'm torn. Don't change it now I guess, I'll give more feedback when I'm done then.

  

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AbernyteTue 16-Nov-10 07:19 AM
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#36378, "The Aegis > the zeal for shifter"
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Given that dispeling realy hurts a shifter a lot and the plus hit/dam does not appear to have much of an influence on the damage done by the shifter forms.

Before the revamp they did and things like ignite were awesome to boost your shifter but after revamp it appears to influence only a tiny bit so I, personally, would prefer the Aegis.

Is it possible for a choice to be given to shifter mages like battle do with battle scout/berserker/defender?

Maran Aegis - You have focused your powers on your innate magical abilities.
Maran Zeal - You have focused your powers on your martial capabilities.

Just a thought,

-----Abernyte

  

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ZulghinlourTue 16-Nov-10 11:41 AM
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#36382, "RE: The Aegis > the zeal for shifter"
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>Given that dispeling realy hurts a shifter a lot and the plus
>hit/dam does not appear to have much of an influence on the
>damage done by the shifter forms.

Given that dispeling realy hurts a shifter a lot and the plus
hit/dam does not appear to have much of an influence on the
damage done by the shifter forms that have a large damroll.

Fixed it for you...

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#36394, "As the person who wrote Fiera'rroga Aegis...."
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As a shifter, I would pick Zeal about 10 times out of 10.

Which is why I left shifters with Zeal.

  

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#36396, "I don't know about 10/10, but at least 8/10..."
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Mostly because throw on 2 rings from a certain place that aren't horribly limited, two glass bracelets, and a bless from the Watcher/Knight whatever, and you're rocking -70 or svs, which means you're not likely to get dispelled (especially with spellcraft mastered).

Meanwhile, they are trying to dispel you and getting mercilessly brutalized by your harder hitting shifter.

I can see why a certain type of player would want the Aegis though. Surprised you didn't factor that into your comment (because face it Nepenthe, you do have a certain playstyle...IE You aren't rocking an assassin that walks Eastern road unhidden ).

  

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laxmanTue 16-Nov-10 08:06 AM
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#36379, "plus dam doesn't seem to affect shifters in form"
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I mean it shows up on stats but even when I was throwing an extra 30 dam on forms I wasn't getting any noticeable boost in what I was doing. (12 from frenzy prep and 18 from stacked ignites)

  

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ZulghinlourTue 16-Nov-10 11:40 AM
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#36381, "Plus dam DOES affect forms"
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For example...mongoose:

Hitroll : 26(31 ) Damroll : 8(19 )

Spell: 'frenzy' modifies armor class by 55 for 22 hours.
Spell: 'frenzy' modifies hit roll by 5 for 22 hours.
Spell: 'frenzy' modifies damage roll by 11 for 22 hours.

Which DOES affect them, and quite visibly. If you're playing an offense shifter, it's probably not helping that much since your damroll is already quite high (percentage gain vs. a defense shifter).

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sorlag (inactive user)Tue 16-Nov-10 12:26 PM
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#36383, "RE: Plus dam DOES affect forms"
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Is this (the diminishing returns like effect on +damroll) specific to shifters, or damroll in general?

I always though damroll was as simple as the more you can pack on, the harder you'll hit, and that basically double the damroll meant double the damage (or rather, double the damage provided by damroll, minus weapon avg, strength, etc.)

PS: I'm not sure I explained that well.

  

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Drag0nSt0rmTue 16-Nov-10 01:28 PM
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#36384, "Um"
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He didn't say it wasn't like this. He did however say

That the % gains vs the overall number decrease.

That is to say 10 dam matters less to someone with 100 dam vs someone with 10 dam.

Why? Because with 100 dam its a 10% increase, with 10 dam its a 100% increase in damage. (You know, because its now 20 dam?)

That is all he was saying.

  

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#36385, "Correct (n/t)"
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n/t

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laxmanTue 16-Nov-10 01:46 PM
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#36386, "and there are no caps on this?"
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it was a few months ago but i remember experimenting with my first and second forms where an extra 30 dam would be a sizeable damage boost percentage wise and not seeing anything noticeable in terms of damage noun change.

I mean the system is set up to discriminate between dam from gear and dam from affects so it would not be at all surprising for score to show a damage increase and mechanically there not be one because of whatever causes gear + dam to be ingnored.

I could be wrong but I made my offense/offense felar evil outlander shifter specifically to try and leverage + dam from affects into greater damage output and I did not notice much difference even in idea circumstances (beefed up druid frenzy, aristea, feral growl, tripple stacked ignite, bestial fury)

  

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#36389, "RE: and there are no caps on this?"
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>it was a few months ago but i remember experimenting with my
>first and second forms where an extra 30 dam would be a
>sizeable damage boost percentage wise and not seeing anything
>noticeable in terms of damage noun change.

If it shows up in score it counts during combat. They use the exact same function.

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#36391, "What you are saying jives with me."
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IE When I had mongoose, with crimson dragonscale sleeves + bless + a couple other +dam/+hit affects it was a noticable difference. Like from hitting 2 maims a round to hitting 2-3 MUTILATES/EVISCERATES a round.

Much less so for my lion or my grizzly bear shifters. That's where I wish I got executioner's grace with my lion...we can dream can't we?

  

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#36390, "I believe"
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What you are seeing is the lack of enhanced damage + an over expectation of what the + dam will give you

Even with the situation you are talking about. Thats only about 30 more dam. Which is a noun. Unless you are one of the really hard hitting forms. Then it may not even change nouns. Why you ask?

Because the ***DEM and ***DEV range are quite large, over 100 hps in damage range each. So if you are doing a low end ***DEV and do an additional 30 damage it is still a ***DEV just one that does 30 more damage than before.

  

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#36392, "RE: Aegis"
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I find that the added hit and dam from Zeal is often not as helpful as Aegis would be for many casting/communing classes. I can't count the number of times I lost all my protections from a dispel or two, with my last Paladin, forcing me to run to recast almost instantly.

Reading over the post, I kinda like the idea of being able to Spec one or the other. I know it isn't likely to change but I like it never the less. Could be huge for communers who rely on casting over melee.

  

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ZulghinlourSat 13-Nov-10 02:04 PM
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#36341, "Updated: Holy Brigade of the Phoenix"
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Updated:
http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=Holy+brigade+of+the+phoenix

Added:
http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=mantle+of+the+phoenix

http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=Lightforge

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#36339, "Updated: Acolytes of the Golden Sun"
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http://www.carrionfields.com/helpsearch.php?keywords=Acolytes+of+the+golden+sun

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#36340, "Helpfile request."
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I like this layout of the help files for the cabals. Can I make one request that the immortals for each cabal be listed in the help file like the Tribunal help file?

Oh and if the players don't say it enough, thank you for all the work you do like this!

  

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