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#28757, "Empire"
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So reading the helpfile on Empire there is no longer an Arcane sect. Does that mean that mages cannot join empire? Or just don't get powers or what?
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  Mages can join the Empire.,
 sleepy2 (Guest),
29-Nov-09 09:21 PM, #1
Thanks for clearing that up.,
Magma (Guest),
30-Nov-09 02:01 AM, #2
 Clarification,
_Magus_Guest_ (Guest),
30-Nov-09 03:01 AM, #3
 Eh. Forgot about that one.,
Sleepy2 (Guest),
30-Nov-09 03:06 AM, #4
Bear in mind that as a perma-Citizen, you're low man on...,
asylumius,
30-Nov-09 03:04 PM, #5
Not really. You only answer to the Emperor and High Pr...,
Balrahd. (Guest),
30-Nov-09 03:14 PM, #6
RE: Not really. You only answer to the Emperor and Hig...,
asylumius,
30-Nov-09 03:24 PM, #7
Well.. if they can't anathema or demote you ...,
Balrahd. (Guest),
30-Nov-09 03:32 PM, #8
Example,
Dwoggurd,
30-Nov-09 03:48 PM, #9
I was thinking more along the lines of:,
Balrahd. (Guest),
30-Nov-09 04:15 PM, #10
Aiekooso n/t,
Xanthrailles,
30-Nov-09 05:40 PM, #11
Its all about politics really,
quas (Guest),
30-Nov-09 05:45 PM, #12
That just made me smile... thx. nt,
Dolce (Guest),
01-Dec-09 08:37 AM, #14
High Priest is SUPPOSED to be able to do it.,
TMNS_lazy (Guest),
30-Nov-09 08:22 PM, #13
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#28760, "Mages can join the Empire."
In response to Reply #0
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They'll just stay at bloodoath level for a very long time since only leaders or imms can promote them to "citizen" level.
You won't get any powers like other sects. Also, at bloodoath level you won't be able to enter the inner room, which sort of sucks.
In essence, it's hard work, with very little benefits power-gaming wise.
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#28775, "Thanks for clearing that up."
In response to Reply #1
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#28776, "Clarification"
In response to Reply #2
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Citizens (i.e. mages) get to call centurions. And possibly bloodoath, but I am unsure about that.
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#28777, "Eh. Forgot about that one."
In response to Reply #3
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magus is my CF spellcheck.
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asylumius | Mon 30-Nov-09 03:04 PM |
Member since 09th Apr 2007
137 posts
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#28788, "Bear in mind that as a perma-Citizen, you're low man on..."
In response to Reply #2
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#28789, "Not really. You only answer to the Emperor and High Pr..."
In response to Reply #5
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(Assuming the High Priest can still anathema people from outside their sect).
That's really not a bad position to be in. It's not like non-IMM Anathema happens at all, but all things considered it's better to severely limit the possibility for it to happen. 
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asylumius | Mon 30-Nov-09 03:24 PM |
Member since 09th Apr 2007
137 posts
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#28790, "RE: Not really. You only answer to the Emperor and Hig..."
In response to Reply #6
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Any given Imperial might not be able to Anathema you, but you're still likely going to take #### for just about anyone and generally not enjoy your time in Empire unless you play ball. Unless you're an Invoker or a haste-bitch or something, but that's give and take.
To each his own I guess, but given the power structure of Empire, I'd still call a permanent citizen low man on the totem pole, second to oaths of course.
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#28791, "Well.. if they can't anathema or demote you ..."
In response to Reply #7
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Why do you have to take #### from them? 
I agree, it does suck to lose out on the cooler imperial powers. But on the other hand, you get to take part in and improve some of the most powerful ganks in the game. I think that obviously appeals to some people. And in fact, there have been some pretty powerful mage citizens in Empire. I just see it as more complex than simply being the "low man on the totem pole."
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Dwoggurd | Mon 30-Nov-09 03:48 PM |
Member since 20th Jan 2004
668 posts
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#28792, "Example"
In response to Reply #8
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#28793, "I was thinking more along the lines of:"
In response to Reply #9
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I was thinking more along the lines of Azrael than Borslav. Do you really think Borslav is an example of a "powerful mage"?
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Xanthrailles | Mon 30-Nov-09 05:40 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
391 posts
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#28796, "Aiekooso n/t"
In response to Reply #10
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#28797, "Its all about politics really"
In response to Reply #10
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If you got a couple of sect leaders or the emperor who like you and want to keep you around it will discourage people from pissing on you.
On the otherhand technically a citizen is very low on the food chain and kind of answerable to all sects and empire is about order so while they may not be able to demote your still breaking imperial law and will eventually get hammered for it.
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#28809, "That just made me smile... thx. nt"
In response to Reply #9
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#28799, "High Priest is SUPPOSED to be able to do it."
In response to Reply #6
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