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SlackTue 25-Aug-09 02:56 PM
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#28074, "New Paladin Dedications"


  

          

I posted for some information about the monk dedication on the Dioxide, but then I decided if any IMM or Nep/Zulg can answer some of the questions.

1. I have heard that the monks have mana issue. All the skills are related to mana. Would the mana problem be solved as Paladins usually do not have hoards of mana.

2. Is there a new group of edges being worked on as the Paladin Edges often relate to the earlier two dedication, not the newer ones.

3. Champions doesn't seems to that much viable to play. Is there a newer & better improved skills given to this dedication?

4. I think I am not the only one who started playing the newer dedication and later felt I should have gone with the older dedication. Is there a reason for making these new dedication little harder to play?

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Reply RE: New Paladin Dedications, Daevryn, 25-Aug-09 04:32 PM, #5
Reply Maybe then..., Torak, 26-Aug-09 12:29 AM, #7
     Reply RE: Maybe then..., Daevryn, 26-Aug-09 09:43 AM, #9
          Reply Sounds Like..., WarMage, 26-Aug-09 11:31 AM, #10
               Reply It sounds like a good tactic., Cerunnir, 26-Aug-09 11:38 AM, #11
               Reply RE: It sounds like a good tactic., WarMage, 26-Aug-09 12:36 PM, #12
                    Reply RE: It sounds like a good tactic., Cerunnir, 26-Aug-09 12:55 PM, #13
                         Reply RE: It sounds like a good tactic., WarMage, 26-Aug-09 12:58 PM, #14
               Reply RE: Sounds Like..., Daevryn, 26-Aug-09 03:32 PM, #15
                    Reply RE: Sounds Like..., WarMage, 27-Aug-09 08:21 AM, #16
Reply Any other IMM other than Zulg, Slack, 25-Aug-09 03:33 PM, #3
Reply My response won't help..., Zulghinlour, 25-Aug-09 03:02 PM, #1
     Reply RE: My response won't help..., WarMage, 25-Aug-09 03:30 PM, #2
          Reply RE: My response won't help..., Isildur, 25-Aug-09 03:55 PM, #4
               Reply I said consummate V's!, Aarn, 25-Aug-09 06:26 PM, #6
                    Reply RE: I said consummate V's!, WarMage, 26-Aug-09 07:25 AM, #8

DaevrynTue 25-Aug-09 04:32 PM
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#28081, "RE: New Paladin Dedications"
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I'm not planning any changes to the dedications at this time.

Edges for monks/champions will show up eventually, yes, though they aren't my next project either.

  

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TorakWed 26-Aug-09 12:29 AM
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#28082, "Maybe then..."
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....you could comment on what you think about the marshal/champion dedication? From everything I've seen from friend's trying them out they've been pretty horrible. The general consensus seems to stand with this train of thought as well, at least from the vocal side of the other forums.

If there's no plans for changing them, there must be a Daevryn-esque type of comment to say they're not that bad.

  

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DaevrynWed 26-Aug-09 09:43 AM
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#28083, "RE: Maybe then..."
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I've made some adjustments to both monks and champions since they first went in; in the case of champions especially, I haven't seen how those changes have played out yet.

  

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WarMageWed 26-Aug-09 11:31 AM
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#28084, "Sounds Like..."
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you are trying to keep these changes, more or less, under wraps until you get a better idea of how they are working right?

If so, that's great and I will stfu. If not, would you mind elaborating a little more on what sorts of changes went in?

I know we are pushing alot for info but I have heard and seen some of the complaints myself on the 'other' board and just wondered if it might be possible to see if they have any merit.

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CerunnirWed 26-Aug-09 11:38 AM
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#28085, "It sounds like a good tactic."
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He is slowly adjusting things up or down as numbers come in. Eventually it will balance it self out. The other choise is to do it the WoW way, and make major changes.. never really obtaining balance.

  

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WarMageWed 26-Aug-09 12:36 PM
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#28086, "RE: It sounds like a good tactic."
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Makes sense. Though, what 'numbers' are we looking at here? Is it just randomly snooping players playing those particular dedications? Or do implementors create NPC's and what not in a test environment and then have them bash each other into the ground? Just not really sure how the whole process goes about and would like to know more.

As an aside, it has always interested me to know how things get balanced out here at CF especially since, as you said, with games like WOW they usually just make sweeping changes and end up never really balancing out the game as a whole.

News flash, everybody on this ####ing MUD wants to be Rambo. We should have called it RamboMUD. ~Daevryn~

  

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CerunnirWed 26-Aug-09 12:55 PM
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#28087, "RE: It sounds like a good tactic."
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Im guessing they dont just numbers per say, but overall PK success compared to the other specilizations. Eventually as time pass, you can build a fairly good image of how the average champion and monk does compared to a shield ded.

However, they probably have some raw numbers aswell, but I could not guess what they are.

  

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WarMageWed 26-Aug-09 12:58 PM
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#28088, "RE: It sounds like a good tactic."
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Ok. So it's more of a work in progress sort of thing than just... "OK these are done, now lets move on to something else." Alright, well thanks for the info. Appreciate it.

News flash, everybody on this ####ing MUD wants to be Rambo. We should have called it RamboMUD. ~Daevryn~

  

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DaevrynWed 26-Aug-09 03:32 PM
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#28089, "RE: Sounds Like..."
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The biggest thing I adjusted was how well spin/distance work for Champions. Other changes so far were more minor tweaks.

  

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WarMageThu 27-Aug-09 08:21 AM
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#28090, "RE: Sounds Like..."
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Oh wow, ok. Well thanks very much!

News flash, everybody on this ####ing MUD wants to be Rambo. We should have called it RamboMUD. ~Daevryn~

  

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SlackTue 25-Aug-09 03:33 PM
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#28080, "Any other IMM other than Zulg"
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Any help will be appreciated...Thanks in advance

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ZulghinlourTue 25-Aug-09 03:02 PM
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#28075, "My response won't help..."
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I didn't do anything with the new paladin dedications, and don't have a clue what the skills are or how they work

So long, and thanks for all the fish!

  

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WarMageTue 25-Aug-09 03:30 PM
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#28076, "RE: My response won't help..."
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I have to ask Zulg, that avatar of yours, is that in any way related to The order of the stick? I MUST KNoW !

News flash, everybody on this ####ing MUD wants to be Rambo. We should have called it RamboMUD. ~Daevryn~

  

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#28077, "RE: My response won't help..."
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http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/Trogdor

  

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#28078, "I said consummate V's!"
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Edited on Tue 25-Aug-09 06:26 PM

          

Consummate V's!

http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail58.html

  

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WarMageWed 26-Aug-09 07:24 AM
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#28079, "RE: I said consummate V's!"
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Edited on Wed 26-Aug-09 07:25 AM

          

How could I have missed this! *dives off into interwebs to find more knowledge on said Burninator* Thanks for the info guys!

Oh, and sorry for the bit of a highjack on this thread, but actually, I would also like to see a couple of answers to Toraks newest question above as well.

Thanks again!

News flash, everybody on this ####ing MUD wants to be Rambo. We should have called it RamboMUD. ~Daevryn~

  

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