Do these brainless being ever fail to rescue the necromancer or the person the necromancer commands them to rescue? I ask because warriors and paladins often fail in their attempts but I have never seen one of these brainless undead ever fail.

If they don't ever fail to rescue, why not? Shouldn't there always be a chance of failure in skills that involve people meleeing about?

It kind of detracts from the warrior's skills set if a brainless pile of embalmed flesh can rescue people better than he can.

-----Abernyte

P.S. If you cannot make it fail sometimes, at least have them accidently pass on plague to the rescued by virtue of the close proximity they are under.

I'm pretty sure something like this already exists but I'll give it a go.

Create a new skill and give this skill to the inners. Call it 'stalker's focus' or something.

What this skill does is duck around the guard of the rescuer and keep the attacker on his intended target. I.e. it adds a second fail-success check to rescue in a fight. When I say 'duck around the guard' this implies a dexterity check to dart past the rescuer the moment he makes his move and change the angle of attack so the rescuer is facing the attacker where the attacker no longer is. If you want it to be a strength/size check, just make an emote about clotheslining the rescuer out of the way and onto his ass.

If this skill check succeeds, then the rescue fails and combat continues as normal with the attendant lag on rescue for both the rescued and the rescuer, with a free melee strike on the rescuer from the attacker.

What this does is add risk to using the rescue command for both warriors and necros in raids, and it's also a nifty skill that the imms can give as a quest reward to people like Executioner's Grace is or any number of old skills that are in the game code but no longer exist in any class/cabal skillset.

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There's a warrior edge sort of like that, but I don't think any skills or anything that can be set on a mob. That's an interesting idea.

I've only taken baby steps recently and started a class.

But based on what I've seen of general C and deduced from the skills in CF, it sounds like the code for this skill wouldn't be all that different from entwine or flee-blocking in STSF. Parting block, etc. you just check rescue (and fallback) instead of flee.

The difference is you're skipping making this an edge and creating a whole new skill with a percentage. Then applying it to all inners in the game.

This leaves it as a tactic but also keeps it from being a complete shutdown of rescuing out at inners. It also is a generic use questskill that can be given out as a reward that has a niche' use.

When you make this skill of course you'll have to remove this check entirely versus a Vanguard warrior. It's a very specific case but if you intend to make use of rescue on a tanky character with high HP, it would give a reason to take that legacy. Still not a very popular one, but negating Stalker's Focus would be a nice niche bonus for a niche legacy.

As far as new unique skills go that should be implemented into CF, this idea is superb. It would also give a bump to a very undertaken legacy if it disregarded the skill.

nt

...diminished. You are probably fighting a lich, or both of them, and so it seems a lot tougher. This change would probably hurt the class, on the whole, too much.

If you've ever played a class that you have to have multiple mobs follow you around, they don't fly and their only perk is breathing underwater, while they don't ignore currents?

Oh and any idiot paladin/shaman can summon them away in their spare time provided you're not in the same room as them (which is 98% of the time if they're doing this at all) and wrath them down with a minimum of effort before you can summon them back? Which will generally cost you more mana than it did them because you might have a crappy lowbie area mob zombie spawn in on a given continent after yours was risen/re-entered the game?

Frankly the damage they do, the mob HP they keep and the fact that they are only a couple of levels lower than when they were living is understandable once you try to play around all those limits. You can't exactly take the zombies exploring when they are too large to enter every other door, etc. and if you're dealing with a hero level tanky character at all with a modicum of saves, and if it's a goodie, the headdress of galadriel or helm of brilliance, they're nigh useless but as cannon fodder...

They don't need to be nerfed on rescue, the imms already implemented a failure rate on them which gets lowbie necros killed regularly.

It wasn't directed towards necros, my general idea was that skills that require atleast some thought is more fun to use than just having a "rescueme" button that works for all pets, no matter what. The failure rate pretty much comes into effect for lowbie necros anyway... Pumping them up a little would just be a good thing. Doing that would actually make the skill better, but also add a possibility for screwup on the player's part which is a good thing in my book.

...But I think what you are seeing is "order all rescue (necro)," and so the whole gang tries to do it. If the first fails, the second might succeed, and so on.