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NoldrukMon 11-Aug-08 01:30 PM
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#22005, "PC Selling"
Edited on Mon 11-Aug-08 01:39 PM

          

Was wondering if we could possibly implement a command to allow in character PC-to-PC selling of items grant commerce exp.

My idea is that it would maybe be like the bond or the bloodoath, in that one side would open with the command, and the other would have to close it: pcsell and pcbuy
Syntax:
pcsell <item> <player> <amount in copper>
pcbuy <item> <player> <amount in copper>

In Use:
pcsell pearl Jimmy 30000

You open some negotiations with Jimmy regarding the pearl of power for 30000 copper coins.

pcbuy pearl Tod 30000

Counting out the total, you hand Tod a pouch filled with coins.
You buy a pearl of power from Tod.
As Jimmy hands you a pouch full of coins, you hand him his purchase.
You sell a pearl of power to Jimmy.

The echoes could maybe use some work.. but just figured this'd be a way to track how much a player does commercewise, to other players.

Maybe have a timer on it or something, so it isn't spammable/exploitable, too.

  

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Reply Is this really needed?, Elerosse, 11-Aug-08 04:04 PM, #4
Reply RE: Is this really needed?, Noldruk, 11-Aug-08 04:39 PM, #5
     Reply RE: Is this really needed?, Elerosse, 12-Aug-08 10:05 AM, #6
Reply RE: PC Selling, Marcus_, 11-Aug-08 03:19 PM, #3
Reply RE: PC Selling, Plushka, 11-Aug-08 02:25 PM, #1
     Reply RE: PC Selling, Noldruk, 11-Aug-08 02:34 PM, #2

ElerosseMon 11-Aug-08 04:04 PM
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#22011, "Is this really needed?"
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I am not sure exactly how much commerce exp is earned from a normal transaction but it seems exceptionally small. Since this would need to have some designed limits to make sure there is no easy way to abuse it the value it would seem to have on a character would be very minor. Both in terms of total exp and commerce exp.

The way I look at commerce exp is that it is a skill earned for bartering/haggling for the best prices with professional shopkeepers. Not for hawking wares to random people. Sort of like the difference between a transaction at a garage sale vs that at a car dealership.

Anyway just my opinion.

  

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NoldrukMon 11-Aug-08 04:39 PM
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#22012, "RE: Is this really needed?"
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Actually, if you recall some of the early quests, you gained commerce exp just from accomplishing ANY number of things related to business-savviness, selling, trading, haggling, bartering, or even running an item from one place to the next. Your viewpoint is WAY too limited.

  

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ElerosseTue 12-Aug-08 10:05 AM
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#22014, "RE: Is this really needed?"
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I still do not see a need for it. If the exp earned was valued at the seemingly very low amount that normal shopkeeper transactions are and there was a limit to avoid abuse, how much exp would this really be worth for the vast majority of the players. It seems like a new feature with little value.

Of course the exp per transaction could be increased, or no limiting factors could be placed on it but that all leads to potential abuse.

  

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Marcus_Mon 11-Aug-08 03:16 PM
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#22008, "RE: PC Selling"
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Edited on Mon 11-Aug-08 03:19 PM

          

It would also need:

pcsell pearl Jimmy 30000 -ripoff
As Jimmy hands you a pouch full of coins, you bitchslap him, spit in his face and make a run for it!

edit: as long as you can scam people, i'm all for this feature.

  

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PlushkaMon 11-Aug-08 02:25 PM
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#22006, "RE: PC Selling"
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You'd have to make sure it gives the full description of the item to the buyer, or maybe even a full identify. Also would have to make sure the items aren't cursed, etc. Main thing I'm thinking about right now is scamming people by using items of similar names, or in the case of a specific dagger, the same item name with vastly different stats (one really good, one really bad)

  

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NoldrukMon 11-Aug-08 02:34 PM
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#22007, "RE: PC Selling"
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You wouldn't hardcode that sort of thing... that's life. And it's something that players have to deal with before. I am just thinking of an avenue to track commerce experience, not make trading and buying scamproof.

  

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