With regard to all the rather wild speculation surrounding game balance of transmuters at their current state versus melee classes.


Have there been any cases that a transmuter's victory using neuro+one or 2 disrupt spells can be attributed to a thin (or just fairly thin) Veil?

Would thickening the Veil reduce a transmuter's tanking abiliy with Metabolic Quickening and Accelerate, depending on the state of the Veil when the spell is cast?

Would thickening the Veil make it so that you could get the Veil to the point that, while the Neurological Disruption spell itself won't fail, saving against both the spell level and the paralysis would be ridiculously easy?

Would thickening the Veil change Malleability's evasion rate over time, or only when the spell is cast? Does it change the spell at all?

Should the thickness of the Veil itself change whether a transmuter would pick Corporeal Hardening over Malleability, or has it been that transmuter players have considered Malleabiliy in PK and in raids to be the superior option bar none?

Does Metabolic quickening/accelerate affect malleability's success rate? Does it affect Evade with some fixed variable instead of the +dex stat?

I'm trying to approach this from another angle mentally, while I consider what character I want to roll. The line of thinking for me is that I would want a character type that could see/attack duo, but that's not a formal request but rather the direction my mind is going. So a character type for that would be nice, or a suggestion of another way to think about hunting down a transmuter on one's own terms. (Keeping in mind that most muters have cabals that give them options far above and beyond for keeping out of reach of the first strike)

>Have there been any cases that a transmuter's victory using
>neuro+one or 2 disrupt spells can be attributed to a thin (or
>just fairly thin) Veil?

Certainly it can be a factor, but honestly anyone who dies to just neuro + 1 disrupt either started the fight very wounded or... I can't even think of how many mistakes you'd need to make for that to happen.

>Would thickening the Veil reduce a transmuter's tanking abiliy
>with Metabolic Quickening and Accelerate, depending on the
>state of the Veil when the spell is cast?

It would affect the durations of those spells and their ability to be dispelled, and potentially how much they modify dex. That's probably the limit of it.

>Would thickening the Veil make it so that you could get the
>Veil to the point that, while the Neurological Disruption
>spell itself won't fail, saving against both the spell level
>and the paralysis would be ridiculously easy?

Absolutely, although I'm qualifying that with assuming you're not wholesale neglecting save vs. paralysis. Characters with higher mental stats can get away with neglecting it slightly more, but still probably shouldn't. (This is true of spell saves as well.)

>Would thickening the Veil change Malleability's evasion rate
>over time, or only when the spell is cast? Does it change the
>spell at all?

Duration/dispellability is probably it.

>Should the thickness of the Veil itself change whether a
>transmuter would pick Corporeal Hardening over Malleability,
>or has it been that transmuter players have considered
>Malleabiliy in PK and in raids to be the superior option bar
>none?

I think a lot of transmuters have considered that to be true, and they'd be wrong. The right choice depends mostly on who/what you expect to be fighting, and how much you want to gamble.

Note that malleability also requires forgoing calcify, which I consider to be a very underrated spell.

>Does Metabolic quickening/accelerate affect malleability's
>success rate? Does it affect Evade with some fixed variable
>instead of the +dex stat?

In the sense that a high dex is very important for malleability, yes. In other senses, no.

>I'm trying to approach this from another angle mentally, while
>I consider what character I want to roll. The line of thinking
>for me is that I would want a character type that could
>see/attack duo, but that's not a formal request but rather the
>direction my mind is going. So a character type for that
>would be nice, or a suggestion of another way to think about
>hunting down a transmuter on one's own terms. (Keeping in mind
>that most muters have cabals that give them options far above
>and beyond for keeping out of reach of the first strike)

Help dimensional vision.

But, if you're wanting to be a more melee character, probably your best chance for a first strike involves one of the stealth classes and a little bit of cleverness.

honestly anyone who dies to just neuro + 1 disrupt either started the fight very wounded or... I can't even think of how many mistakes you'd need to make for that to happen.

I must really suck .

Man. Did you pick the sickly edge like ten times to not have any hit points?

Note: If you were also softened and decalcified in there, I wouldn't consider that to be neuro + 1 disrupt.

Wait, you mean picking frail + sickly x 5 is a bad thing?

This way your charcter gets free breaks of sleep from his existence of pure agony.

I walked away and made a sandwich as soon as I saw "you're head explodes into pain.. blah blah blah" .

In all cerealness though, I've never been hit by so many DEMO gear progs as I was this one time. I guess that's more than one neuro and disrupt. Okay, I feel better about myself I guess.