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Vershelt (inactive user)Sat 14-Apr-07 06:24 PM
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#17463, "Black light"


          

What damage type is it? Light? Negative? Magic? purple kool aid?

  

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Reply RE: Black light, Karel, 14-Apr-07 07:25 PM, #1
     Reply Without checking, I believe this is correct. (n/t), Daevryn, 14-Apr-07 08:47 PM, #2
          Reply RE: Without checking, I believe this is correct. (n/t), Isildur, 14-Apr-07 11:15 PM, #3
               Reply Isn't the opposite the maran attack type?, Derexal, 14-Apr-07 11:39 PM, #4
               Reply There can be several nouns to one damage type., DurNominator, 15-Apr-07 01:40 AM, #5
                    Reply Yup. (n/t), Daevryn, 15-Apr-07 07:57 AM, #6
                    Reply RE: There can be several nouns to one damage type., Isildur, 15-Apr-07 08:26 AM, #7
                         Reply Huh?, Valguarnera, 15-Apr-07 08:46 AM, #8
                              Reply RE: Huh?, Isildur, 15-Apr-07 09:29 AM, #9
                                   Reply I was under the same illusion. nt, GinGa, 15-Apr-07 11:48 AM, #10
                                   Reply Another question, elmeri_, 18-Apr-07 10:27 AM, #11
                                        Reply RE: Another question, Isildur, 18-Apr-07 05:45 PM, #12
                                        Reply RE: Another question, (NOT Graatch), 18-Apr-07 08:29 PM, #13
                                             Reply That one is blunt.. nt, Marcus_, 19-Apr-07 04:25 AM, #15
                                             Reply stinginglash I thought was blunt because it was awesome..., Abernyte, 19-Apr-07 09:34 AM, #16
                                        Reply RE: Another question, DurNominator, 19-Apr-07 02:01 AM, #14

KarelSat 14-Apr-07 07:25 PM
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#17464, "RE: Black light"
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Negative, go try using it on most undead.

"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." - Jimi Hendrix

  

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DaevrynSat 14-Apr-07 08:47 PM
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#17465, "Without checking, I believe this is correct. (n/t)"
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IsildurSat 14-Apr-07 11:15 PM
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#17466, "RE: Without checking, I believe this is correct. (n/t)"
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What's confusing about that is that all the damage types seem to come in pairs. Positive, negative, light, heat, cold, lightning. "Black light" is just sort of...out there by itself.

  

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DerexalSat 14-Apr-07 11:39 PM
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#17467, "Isn't the opposite the maran attack type?"
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Searing light or something?

  

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DurNominatorSun 15-Apr-07 01:40 AM
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#17468, "There can be several nouns to one damage type."
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With black light being negative, the opposite of it and defilement being wrath or divine power, which are positive damage types. The nouns are just cosmetic, I think.

  

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DaevrynSun 15-Apr-07 07:57 AM
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#17470, "Yup. (n/t)"
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IsildurSun 15-Apr-07 08:26 AM
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#17471, "RE: There can be several nouns to one damage type."
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Yeah yeah- I'm just saying that from a symmetry/design point of view, if every other damage type has two nouns then that suggests a pattern. That's why I expected black light to be something other than negative- there already existed two negative nouns.

  

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ValguarneraSun 15-Apr-07 08:46 AM
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#17472, "Huh?"
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1) There is no such pattern. Weapon damage types have zero, two, three, twelve and various numbers in between of possible messages. If an author wants a new one, adding it is trivial and I'd rather have something that fits the weapon than pigeonhole them.

2) Why should there be a pattern? It doesn't impact game balance, and we don't try to put equal numbers of all damage types out there. Poison is much rarer than blunt, so why would we feel a need to force equal numbers of damage messages on those categories?

valguarnera@carrionfields.com

  

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IsildurSun 15-Apr-07 09:29 AM
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#17473, "RE: Huh?"
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>1) There is no such pattern. Weapon damage types have zero,
>two, three, twelve and various numbers in between of possible
>messages.

It seemed as if there was, at least with special damage types:

freezing bite / frigid chop
flaming bite / searing cut
shocking bite / electric discharge
wrath / divine power
defilement / infernal power
searing light / brilliant radiance

Guess it was just my imagination.

>2) Why should there be a pattern? It doesn't impact game
>balance, and we don't try to put equal numbers of all damage
>types out there.

I'm not arguing there "should" have been a pattern, I'm just saying it looked like one existed.

  

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GinGaSun 15-Apr-07 11:48 AM
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#17475, "I was under the same illusion. nt"
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nt

  

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elmeri_Wed 18-Apr-07 10:27 AM
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#17508, "Another question"
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A few physical damage types I've wondered about, but never bothered testing, since they only matter if fighting gnomes or various undead

charge, sting, whip, rending gale, and I'm sure there are more I can't think of now

  

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IsildurWed 18-Apr-07 05:45 PM
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#17514, "RE: Another question"
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Charge is almost certainly blunt. I would be surprised if sting and whip were blunt. Rending gale...no idea.

  

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Graatch (inactive user)Wed 18-Apr-07 08:29 PM
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#17520, "RE: Another question"
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Stinging lash? Some have an acidyesque quality ot them, from the sound, but I think are physical anyway.

  

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Marcus_Thu 19-Apr-07 04:25 AM
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#17523, "That one is blunt.. nt"
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nt

  

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AbernyteThu 19-Apr-07 09:34 AM
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#17528, "stinginglash I thought was blunt because it was awesome..."
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as good as my ranger staff.

-----Abernyte


  

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DurNominatorThu 19-Apr-07 02:01 AM
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#17522, "RE: Another question"
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charge: Isildur says blunt, but I've always thought of it as pierce. Look at the weapon with this attack type. If it's spear, it's probably pierce. If charge damage type is blunt, why can't you charge with a staff but with polearm and spear you can?

sting: pierce or slash. I think there were daggers with sting, so I'll say pierce.

whip: I think it's slash

rending gale: Rending gale is slash.

  

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