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dalnekoFri 22-Sep-06 11:38 AM
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#14490, "Best Dragon Slaying Class"


          

I'm thinking that for my next character idea I specifically want to make a character who's main purpose would be to fight dragons more or less solo. Of course this would be nearly impossible as I think the only dragon that someone can beat solo is the midnight dragon. -Maybe- the green dragon at the Tower of Dragons. But I wanted to get the opinions of everyone else. What classes would make the best dragon fighters? In the case of warriors, since I think this probably would be a common suggestion, what would be good weapon specs to choose? Thanks.

  

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Reply Shifter with porcupine and sand lizard and any other fo..., Abernyte, 27-Sep-06 05:55 AM, #14
Reply Lots of options, lots of dragons, Ysaloerye, 23-Sep-06 11:59 PM, #12
Reply RE: Lots of options, lots of dragons, Isildur, 26-Sep-06 10:34 AM, #13
     Reply It certainly took a while I'll say that, Ysaloerye, 28-Sep-06 11:16 AM, #15
Reply shield ded paladin, laxman, 22-Sep-06 03:44 PM, #7
Reply RE: Best Dragon Slaying Class, trh, 22-Sep-06 03:31 PM, #5
Reply A few more pointers:, trh, 22-Sep-06 03:33 PM, #6
Reply RE: Best Dragon Slaying Class, dalneko, 22-Sep-06 06:40 PM, #8
Reply Autumn Svirv?, Rodriguez, 22-Sep-06 12:24 PM, #3
Reply Not sure if it is the best.., Mylinos, 22-Sep-06 12:23 PM, #2
Reply Goodie Conjie, Tac, 22-Sep-06 11:58 AM, #1
     Reply I've soloed plenty of dragons with warriors, Theerkla, 22-Sep-06 12:27 PM, #4
     Reply RE: Goodie Conjie, Isildur, 23-Sep-06 09:41 AM, #9
          Reply RE: Goodie Conjie, dalneko, 23-Sep-06 12:39 PM, #10
               Reply Porcupine is defense, yes., DurNominator, 23-Sep-06 12:49 PM, #11

AbernyteWed 27-Sep-06 05:55 AM
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#14557, "Shifter with porcupine and sand lizard and any other fo..."
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YsaloeryeSat 23-Sep-06 11:59 PM
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#14518, "Lots of options, lots of dragons"
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I had a dragon slayer a while back, svirf pole/dagger Autumn/Whispers.
I solo'd about 38 dragons in total, including Tiamat and the Yellow in Nonviel. However since then how dragons affect gear has changed.

There are many viable options for dragon slaying, warriors, paladins are the best of those.

  

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IsildurTue 26-Sep-06 10:34 AM
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#14520, "RE: Lots of options, lots of dragons"
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I'm trying to figure out how you solo'd tiamat with a warrior.

Get her bleeding, then chargeset once an hour?

  

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YsaloeryeThu 28-Sep-06 11:16 AM
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#14602, "It certainly took a while I'll say that"
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I think the big draconian guard repop'ed about 8 times during the fight. Plus a couple of recalls to galadon to heal. Having the Thunderlance helped greatly too, plus a huge bag o' preps, I spent about 5 hours gathering preps before I went after her.

  

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laxmanFri 22-Sep-06 03:44 PM
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#14498, "shield ded paladin"
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yay for blocking blasts

  

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trhFri 22-Sep-06 03:31 PM
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#14496, "RE: Best Dragon Slaying Class"
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A svirfnebli warrior with autumn harvest and whispers of the great seige.

Spear/staff for impale and good defense. Plus the possibility of getting the titanium spear, so you can have good defenses and heal at the same time. Impale is good for when you need to rest, so the dragon won't heal while you are healing. If the dragon bites you and you're bleeding, whispers should cancel it out, and you should at least remain alive, if not heal more than the bleeding damage.

Sword or axe. Sword will provide you the capability to fight longer against the dragon, but autumn harvest will sort of cancel out the riposte, since autumn harvest helps you to dodge more. And swords focus on parrying. Although, the flourintine and autumn harvest should give you a huge boost on defenses. You won't be disappointed. There's a wide variety of swords too (i.e. wrath, divine, poisonous etc). Axes would be good for just straight damage. Which wouldn't be all bad since you'd have spear/staff.

And also, this sort of thing has been done before in the past. It's nothing new. But I don't say that to deter you from what you want to do. Just sounds like you're trying to come up with an original idea (and this one isn't).

  

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trhFri 22-Sep-06 03:33 PM
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#14497, "A few more pointers:"
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Also, svirfnebli are resistant to poison/disease, so the gas breath won't affect you as much. Carry cure disease/poison preps with you. A lot of them, too. Svirfnebli also have inherent stone skin, which will be great on-the-go damage reduction that you'll always have.

I'm sure there are more selling points to this, but you get the idea.

  

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dalnekoFri 22-Sep-06 06:40 PM
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#14500, "RE: Best Dragon Slaying Class"
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>And also, this sort of thing has been done before in the past.
>It's nothing new. But I don't say that to deter you from what
>you want to do. Just sounds like you're trying to come up
>with an original idea (and this one isn't).


It may sound that way, but really I just thought it would be something fun and different for me to do when I hit hero level. Since mostly what I've done with my other level 51 characters (all two of them) is just wander about exploring. And on a game this old I would be surprised if a dragon hunter/slayer concept -wasn't- done before. Since I think I ran into a few of them with previous characters before. But thanks for the tips and ideas. Keep them coming. Seems a svirf warrior is in the running. Any more suggestions from anyone else?

  

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RodriguezFri 22-Sep-06 12:24 PM
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#14494, "Autumn Svirv?"
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The legacy should at least work to its full extend on that matchup...

  

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MylinosFri 22-Sep-06 12:23 PM
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#14493, "Not sure if it is the best.."
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For simplicity I would play a character like, Hlaqyiobt, admittedly he was played prior to the dragon changes and I am not sure how many of his kills were solo but he killed a lot of dragons.

He was a svi warrior, dagger/pole with autimn harvest and Whispers of the great siege.

Benefits you have here are great defense vs dragons, good damage redux with whispers and inherent stone skin, nice damage with daggers and increased defense if you need it with polearm.

If you know some more damage redux, and healing preps I think this would be pretty successful.

Other then that I would go paladin, you get good damage redux and nice damage or defense, with healing capabilities. This might actually be the easiest class other then a goodie conjie to solo them.

Best part about most (maybe all) dragons is they don't track, so with the right gear/preps you should be able to do it. Of course dragons can put out a lot of damage so you'll mostlikely eat some mob deaths if your trying to solo them no matter what you choose.

  

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TacFri 22-Sep-06 11:58 AM
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#14492, "Goodie Conjie"
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Using your archon to beat down the dragons works. Any sort of conjurer might work, but LG conjie seems to be the consensus on "best".

Alternatively some shifter forms can kill some dragons. Notably those immune to poison can kill those that use poison attacks. You're pretty much looking at utility forms here. Offense/Defense/Air are out IMHO and not many dragons are underwater.

Invoker also is possible, if you are willing to rest/wand up to get the job done.

IMHO warrior will never work because a breath at the start will almost certainly garuntee death as it's porportional to hp, and dragons have lots of hp.

Shield spec paladin is a possiblity as they have good dam redux and can block breath attacks with their shield somewhat.

Necromancer can also work, but only against those dragons that won't routinely destroy your entire zombie army with breath attacks... That is essentially poison breath dragons, though who if your army will simply attack you when it breaths.

And for an outside the box choices... druid and bard.

Druid: CoW + elemental resistance + Treant + healing might be able to get the job done. I don't know.

Bard: Staves/Scrolls + Bard Resist + Symphonic might enable you to wear a dragon down, but I wouldn't count on it. On the upside, you get the coolness of being able to write notes to everyone about your dragon killing deeds. RP++

  

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TheerklaFri 22-Sep-06 12:27 PM
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#14495, "I've soloed plenty of dragons with warriors"
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Stoneskin and shield is usually enough to survive the breath attacks. On top of that, there's more than a few dragons that practically any character at hero can kill.

  

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IsildurSat 23-Sep-06 09:41 AM
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#14509, "RE: Goodie Conjie"
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>Using your archon to beat down the dragons works. Any sort of
>conjurer might work, but LG conjie seems to be the consensus
>on "best".

If their breath doesn't hit archons, then just magic missile them down after your elemental dies.

>You're pretty much looking at utility forms here.
>Offense/Defense/Air are out IMHO and not many dragons are
>underwater.

Porcupine w/ wands & prot. vs. align would be effective. Most dragons are evil, so make him good.

>Shield spec paladin is a possiblity as they have good dam
>redux and can block breath attacks with their shield
>somewhat.

And they can spam wrath for damage. I would routinely kill the ancient blue dragon in a single pass w/ a shield ded paladin, without using any preps. That was about my limit, though, without preps, so I'm not sure I could have killed any of the tougher ones.

  

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dalnekoSat 23-Sep-06 12:39 PM
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#14513, "RE: Goodie Conjie"
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Porcupine is what? Defense?

  

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DurNominatorSat 23-Sep-06 12:49 PM
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#14515, "Porcupine is defense, yes."
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But you can't make your plans based on getting one specific form. There are what, seven 4th tier forms in defense, porcupine being only one. Most utility forms are well-balanced for fighting, so you could try utility/defense if you want to fight dragons as a shifter.

  

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