Good fights,
Wuuble (Guest),
17-Dec-09 05:19 PM, #13
Goodbyes,
Verdelyeb,
15-Dec-09 10:56 AM, #1
Good char,
Torak,
15-Dec-09 12:20 PM, #2
Oh My old Husband, Sirrion, where have you been? ~,
Martrist (Guest),
16-Dec-09 06:13 AM, #3
RE: Oh My old Husband, Sirrion, where have you been? ~,
Verdelyeb,
16-Dec-09 09:06 AM, #6
Damn those Masters for interrupting our honeymoon,
Abernyte,
16-Dec-09 10:12 AM, #7
Argh...this is just scary. nt,
Minyar1 (Guest),
16-Dec-09 10:55 AM, #8
You were everywhere,
Blazzic (Guest),
16-Dec-09 08:23 AM, #4
RE: You were everywhere,
Verdelyeb,
16-Dec-09 09:04 AM, #5
I agree with Blazzic,
Pendragon_Surtr,
18-Dec-09 06:10 AM, #18
RE: I agree with Blazzic,
Verdelyeb,
19-Dec-09 11:07 AM, #27
RE: Goodbyes,
Yean,
16-Dec-09 11:22 PM, #9
Sirrion?,
Elhe (Guest),
16-Dec-09 11:24 PM, #10
I think I remember sirrion,
dwimmerling,
17-Dec-09 12:00 AM, #11
RE: I think I remember sirrion,
Verdelyeb,
17-Dec-09 08:36 AM, #12
RE: Goodbyes,
HammerSong,
17-Dec-09 06:33 PM, #14
RE: Goodbyes,
Torak,
17-Dec-09 07:51 PM, #15
RE: Goodbyes,
HammerSong,
17-Dec-09 09:16 PM, #16
RE: Goodbyes,
Verdelyeb,
19-Dec-09 11:11 AM, #28
Might I suggest there be some change to Battle then?,
Pro (Guest),
18-Dec-09 09:57 AM, #19
You are on crack,
Alex (Guest),
18-Dec-09 12:38 PM, #20
Sorry dude.. The powers are not amazing.,
Pro (Guest),
18-Dec-09 01:49 PM, #21
LOL,
blackbird,
18-Dec-09 02:18 PM, #22
PDR-DNR. n/t,
Pro (Guest),
18-Dec-09 02:24 PM, #23
What this supposed to mean? n/t,
Alex (Guest),
18-Dec-09 05:54 PM, #29
Meh, I'd actually say Scion powers are on the whole bet...,
TMNS_lazy (Guest),
18-Dec-09 09:24 PM, #25
RE: Might I suggest there be some change to Battle then...,
Yean,
19-Dec-09 02:53 AM, #26
The problem that I see.,
Growwlis Minyar (Guest),
19-Dec-09 04:23 PM, #30
I just don't see that it works the way you describe,
Pro (Guest),
19-Dec-09 07:09 PM, #31
RE: Goodbyes,
Cyre (Guest),
17-Dec-09 09:56 PM, #17
You know this makes me mad.,
Matren (Guest),
18-Dec-09 04:29 PM, #24
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#89376, "Good fights"
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I believe the record was 2-0 in your favor. You were a fun opponent, I almost had you a few times but you were always able to slip into the shadows at the last minute, which is how you killed me twice trying to get you foged haha.
Very well played villager, very good job of using the tools you had to maximum effect.
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Verdelyeb | Tue 15-Dec-09 10:56 AM |
Member since 25th Aug 2004
21 posts
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#89325, "Goodbyes"
In response to Reply #0
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Well, this was only a matter of time. I took a week off to see if I could get back into the char, and found myself with no desire to log back in. Since I only have a few hours each week to play, it's not worth it to play a char that is more a chore than fun. Ah well...
I played this char mostly solo, including solo ranking up pretty much to 42 (think I had a group for 3-4 levels in the 30s). Partly due to 1-2 hours a night to play just a couple days a week which makes it hard to find a group and part due to the fact that there were rarely people with which to group (mainly mages/enemeis). If I had it to do again, I definitely would not have ranked into hero range when I did. Once there, I felt useless and found it hard to find foes to surprise, as thieves do best. It was fun taking it slow though and all the mid level fights.
A few goodbyes, as I am horrible with names:
BATTLE Dins - Man, you were a blast to be around. Always made me chuckle. Missed having your presence around.
Growwlis - Thanks a ton for helping me rank in the 40s. You were a solid presence in the village.
Sarux - Same goes for you, but in the mid ranks. You seemed to share similar play times, or at least you were often on when I was. It made it a bit easier to retrieve/level in the 30s with you at my side. Although, still not a fan of poisoner thieves
Ioram - Man, you went balls out whenever I saw you. Of course, it seemed like more often than not I was seeing your corpse It might be fun for you to try a class that can hide, and pick the right time to strike. That's one of my favorite things about thieves.
Matren - Wow, you flew up through the ranks and were always willing to lead the charge. A pity that I fell sooooo quickly in our raid on Empire. Entwine at inners = death sentence for me. Hindsight, I should have sat below and let you all have the fun, waiting for them to flee
Yean – Loved our interactions. Thank you VERY much for everything that you do
Thror – I believe it was you as an Immortal over CB the time that we got a lecture for dying trying to retrieve (if not, I apologize). It left a sour taste in my mouth, especially since we had killed one of three defenders, a set of centurions and would have gotten away except for the fact that a fourth Imperial logged on. You said we should use strategy, and we did try to do so by splitting them up. Perhaps in your eyes we deserved the lecture, and that is fine, however when the only interactions are negative it just makes me wonder why I am in the cabal. It would have been nice to get some props or hear you give it to others, at some point just to boost my morale (of course, you might have only seen the few deaths I had).
Rest of the village: I know there are a ton I am missing out on, feel free to comment and I will respond!
EMPIRE Irwien – Our first meeting was one of the most amusing fights I had. Was working on steal, no weapons wielded when you came up and tripped me. Somehow, fled through the cheapshots and trips, wielded weapons and ended up killing you. You were always willing to go in a fight.
Wuuble – Man you seemed to be everywhere. That fight with Thrym was hilarious. No powers, no way I can retrieve with you around and you fell for it. Of course, I then died at Cents immediately after as another Imperial logged on. *sigh*
Other imperials: forgetting a ton of you, I know. We had some good fights, and some really lopsided ones. All except for the last death (entwined at inners during a raid) I came back to my corpse nearly full and that was definitely unexpected but welcomed. Thanks for that, and I tried to do the same in turn.
NEXUS Rhyaldrin – Sorry about stealing your prep bag shortly before you deleted. However, I knew that if I left you with one flail, I was dead. The only reason I survived the first time you had me entwined was due to robbing all your spare weapons before hand. You were definitely a tough matchup for me.
Omsomqua – Heh, pincer much? A whirl or weaponbreak would have turned some of our fights in your favor. As it was, straight damage when I had vuln exploiting weapons ended up in my favor.
SCION Majheg – Man you are tough. We had some good fights, and I got lucky taking out your familiar that one fight. Critical hit trumps damage reduction on familiars and parting block took care of the rest.
OTHERS Lirad – You always seemed to find me. We had some great fights, and if vulture had pounce when near death, you definitely would have gotten me a few times Thanks for laying off that last time we saw each other and focusing on the Imperials. A rager without the head and with three imperials in range + you flying about is rough.
Thoughts on the build: Went thug up to earclap, which I never ended up using in a fight. It might have helped win some fights, but since I had hide, I could pick fights that I would not need earclap to win. That and having to remove weapons and fight barehanded, just never saw the need to use it. Parting block and payment of the coward were by far my two favorite skills. Parting block did not land as often as I would have liked, but when it did it often meant I got a kill.
For the second path I went up to acrobatics in city ties (once I had devious versatility). Of course, I got acrobatics not long before deleting, so I did not get to fully test it out. It seemed to fire often though as I got help spamming it up. The stealing skills were meh to me. I never perfected steal and the only time I put them to use was with Rhyaldrin stealing all his spare weapons so I didn’t get entwined. Overall I probably would have gotten more use from some other skills. Oh well though.
Once I hit hero range, it became much harder to land kills. Between people always seeming to fly, to having ABS. My 700 hps with gear just didn’t cut it anymore With as few hours as I have, it just isn’t worth it to play a char that cannot seem to accomplish anything. Oh well, on to other things!
Thanks everyone for making the character enjoyable! Feel free to post your thoughts and I’ll try to respond.
Ustul, aka Verdelyeb, Satrian, Sirrion, and lots of others here and there.
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Torak | Tue 15-Dec-09 12:20 PM |
Member since 15th Feb 2007
1216 posts
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#89329, "Good char"
In response to Reply #1
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Solid - definitely had fun with you as Sarux, and you're right about poisoner thieves I had thief envy...
A hearty "BAH!" to whoever gave you crap over CB, considering you were one of the more die-hard and scary villagers during my time.
Good luck with the next.
Torak
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#89348, "Oh My old Husband, Sirrion, where have you been? ~"
In response to Reply #1
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#89354, "Argh...this is just scary. nt"
In response to Reply #7
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#89350, "You were everywhere"
In response to Reply #1
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Liked fighting you a lot. I never knew where you were but it was usually where I least expected it. Those backstabs doing 60% of my health really smarted too.
Good luck your next.
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#89384, "I agree with Blazzic"
In response to Reply #5
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I don't usually think a badass is an imm, but in your case I did. I figured you had to be snooping me to find me. I would teleport, not even know where I was at and get backstabbed by you. Fortunately they always made me wimpy and I could teleport again.
Good job and good luck on your next.
Pen
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#89369, "Sirrion?"
In response to Reply #1
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Is it somehow related to Solace?
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HammerSong | Thu 17-Dec-09 06:30 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
679 posts
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#89378, "RE: Goodbyes"
In response to Reply #1
Edited on Thu 17-Dec-09 06:33 PM
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>Thror – I believe it was you as an Immortal over CB the time >that we got a lecture for dying trying to retrieve (if not, I >apologize). It left a sour taste in my mouth, especially >since we had killed one of three defenders, a set of >centurions and would have gotten away except for the fact that >a fourth Imperial logged on. You said we should use strategy, >and we did try to do so by splitting them up. Perhaps in your >eyes we deserved the lecture, and that is fine, however when >the only interactions are negative it just makes me wonder why >I am in the cabal. It would have been nice to get some props >or hear you give it to others, at some point just to boost my >morale (of course, you might have only seen the few deaths I >had).
It was me. I've seen so much recklessness out of battle, it's hard not to comment at times. You have to remember, Battle is about mastering the Art of War now. Not running head first into your own death.
You were a very, very good thief. I saw quite a few of your kills and thought highly of your ability to PK. This is exactly why I felt Battle (predictably) walked into a situation which was heavily in the favor of the enemy. I was hoping you, or another villager would plan out a more appropriate strategic approach to retrieving.
You guys literally walked in, one at a time and got beat down and stripped of all of your armor...each and every one of you. That's much more of a defeat on morale then the few words I had to offer.
You had the right idea about sending the younger villagers in first to clear the Centurions. Unfortunately, the hero-ranged ragers went in and got a beatdown at the Cents before they were cleared out.
That's not smart (nor strategy) given the odds. Several other immortals commented the same while watching the incident.
Good job with the next character. He was definately a solid villager.
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Torak | Thu 17-Dec-09 07:50 PM |
Member since 15th Feb 2007
1216 posts
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#89379, "RE: Goodbyes"
In response to Reply #14
Edited on Thu 17-Dec-09 07:51 PM
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>You were a very, very good thief. I saw quite a few of your >kills and thought highly of your ability to PK.
>Good job with the next character. He was definately a solid >villager.
Just curious since I'm sticking up for my buddy here - but why not didn't this ever translate into any loving for him? Just seems like another case of the "great!" comments on his goodbye thread but he got nothing but complaints like your intervention while alive.
He's probably too nice to admit it but I think he should have got something...at least a "good job" every once in awhile considering he had more mage kills than almost everyone (by my guess). He probably would have age-died this character if there was any interaction at all.
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#89385, "Might I suggest there be some change to Battle then?"
In response to Reply #14
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Because a lot of people get wrapped around the duallity of it. It's a band of prideful warriors who show courage and ferocity in battle.
And while I am by nature a concervative player, I feel a lot of pressure from in that cabal to fight against overwhelming odds.
It's most frustrating when I hear this from characters who can hide and move about with realative ease. Here I am a duergar warrior who if he even peeks on the Eastern is going to die a horrible and overwhelming death, to Empire,Scion, Nexun, Outlander, Fortress gank. Just because I have a thief or assassin scout/defender doing small hit and run attacks against these guys.
What else can I do other than try to make a token appearance then run off to hide while the raids finish or what ever.
Change the name from Battlerager to something else if you don't want warriors wading into battle and swinging about in furry.
I personally think "Resistance" for Berserkers and Berserkers only should scale and they get a form of Ehren Soul skill. For every enemy engaging him past the first he get's tougher and harder to lag.
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#89386, "You are on crack"
In response to Reply #19
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If you think that free resistance, spellbane, deathblow and haste on a stick is not enough...Granted ragers can die terrible deaths but it's just a price for amazing powers and not gatherinf preps.
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#89388, "Sorry dude.. The powers are not amazing."
In response to Reply #20
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They are mediocre in my opinion.
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#89390, "PDR-DNR. n/t"
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#89400, "What this supposed to mean? n/t"
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#89408, "Meh, I'd actually say Scion powers are on the whole bet..."
In response to Reply #22
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But yes, village powers are the ####.
Each cabal has a give-and-take with their power.
Ragers can't use magic (the worst give) but get the equivalent to stoneskin/detect i/cure blind + spellbane (which is the best power, by far).
Scions get a charmie that scales by level, an ability to pump out multiple charmies that steal and do transmuter spells, an ability to nearly double their health. Not to mention an ability to summon a creature that defiles any natural area (which means rangers/druids etc get shafted). They give up: 1) Have very few allies in the cabal (low cabal numbers).
Empire gets the best powers if you get Emp or one of the 4 council seats. They, on the other hand, get hunted by every cabal in the game to an extent.
Most of the time, just looking at it from a straight powergamer aspect, the villager is LAST on my list almost 99% of the time.
And I know you were pretty much arguing this, just wanted to expand.
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Yean | Sat 19-Dec-09 02:53 AM |
Member since 23rd Jan 2007
275 posts
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#89411, "RE: Might I suggest there be some change to Battle then..."
In response to Reply #19
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>Because a lot of people get wrapped around the duallity of >it. It's a band of prideful warriors who show courage and >ferocity in battle. >
You will be surprised..courage does not equate to stupid. No Battle imm or leader is going to encourage a suicidal retrieval against bad odds or anything like that. Now if you can't handle your own fights on a normal day, yes there might be a problem there.
>And while I am by nature a concervative player, I feel a lot >of pressure from in that cabal to fight against overwhelming >odds. >
I understand this pressure..I've played suicidal elf battle bard that lost half her con by rank 40. So I tried to stop doing that with Yean. (Tried, because by nature I am not a conservative player :p) Part of the thrill of being a zerker is to dive in headfirst with the probability of emerging victorious..so if you're the conservative type I don't think you'll enjoy the auto DBs of zerkers very much. Have you tried a defender, perhaps? You might actually enjoy that. It's fine to lean a little on the conservative side with them too, as long as you're not neglecting cabal duties or running away from every single fight that comes your way (why join a pk heavy cabal then?).
>It's most frustrating when I hear this from characters who can >hide and move about with realative ease. Here I am a duergar >warrior who if he even peeks on the Eastern is going to die a >horrible and overwhelming death, to Empire,Scion, Nexun, >Outlander, Fortress gank. Just because I have a thief or >assassin scout/defender doing small hit and run attacks >against these guys. > >What else can I do other than try to make a token appearance >then run off to hide while the raids finish or what ever. >
If you know you are going to die a horrible death on eastern..why even bother peeking? It doesn't make sense. One important thing you need to learn as a rager early on..is when to retreat and how to escape and disappear fast.
>Change the name from Battlerager to something else if you >don't want warriors wading into battle and swinging about in >furry.
Change the name...what?
> >I personally think "Resistance" for Berserkers and Berserkers >only should scale and they get a form of Ehren Soul skill. For >every enemy engaging him past the first he get's tougher and >harder to lag. >
This sounds like a free legacy for Berserkers. No thanks.
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#89421, "The problem that I see."
In response to Reply #26
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The problem that I see here with this is that sometimes Imms are not consistent on what they want out of people. They tell us to retreat and pick your battle wisely, as we should...from reading in the war room. THen, when a route is occuring and someone dies but the rest get the heck outta dodge, they chastise everyone because the one died. I think that stinks of talking from both sides.
Anyway, I try not to take the random immortal comment, which seems to typically be more negative...personally.
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#89422, "I just don't see that it works the way you describe"
In response to Reply #26
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#89381, "RE: Goodbyes"
In response to Reply #1
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Hey, didnt get to interact a WHOLE lot but you were a fun person to have around when our playing times interacted and from what I could see you were doing fine. Cya in the fields.
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#89395, "You know this makes me mad."
In response to Reply #1
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I liked you and you were always willing to tussle with folks. Now you up and delete!! Punk!! Anyway, I honestly was looking forward to some of the things we were going to be able to do...but alas, i'm out one Kingpin!
GLWYN
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