Ah, Treana.. Not many goodbyes, but some explanations.,
EXB,
28-May-09 04:28 PM, #3
No offense,
hug (Guest),
28-May-09 05:08 PM, #4
Never said it wasn't fair and never said I wouldn't acc...,
EXB,
29-May-09 12:05 AM, #9
You know..,
Java,
29-May-09 12:09 AM, #11
RE: You know..,
EXB,
30-May-09 01:49 AM, #13
But You can't Order Liveoak can you?,
Druidish (Guest),
30-May-09 12:49 PM, #15
wow you people are amzing,
EXB,
31-May-09 04:41 AM, #18
No one believes you. But I'm tired of arguing it, so.. ...,
Java,
31-May-09 04:49 AM, #19
RE: You know..,
Isildur,
30-May-09 04:22 PM, #17
RE: Ah, Treana.. Not many goodbyes, but some explanatio...,
Iunna,
28-May-09 08:41 PM, #5
uhh pvp is a game of speed and positioning,
laxicus (Guest),
28-May-09 11:28 PM, #7
I would have preferred the name change so much earlier ...,
EXB,
29-May-09 12:02 AM, #8
You came to the shrine without a sphere chosen.,
Iunna,
29-May-09 06:31 PM, #12
what in the world...,
EXB,
30-May-09 01:54 AM, #14
Yes, yes, you just liked the sound of the name,
Beront (Guest),
28-May-09 11:21 PM, #6
Mmmm, I'm flattered.,
EXB,
29-May-09 12:07 AM, #10
How you got away with that name for 45 levels is beyond...,
Bewildered (Guest),
28-May-09 12:47 PM, #1
She had a perfectly valid RP reason nt,
lurker,
28-May-09 01:20 PM, #2
I Lol'd. n/t,
ForsoothAnon,
30-May-09 02:48 PM, #16
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EXB | Thu 28-May-09 04:28 PM |
Member since 15th Jun 2005
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#80597, "Ah, Treana.. Not many goodbyes, but some explanations."
In response to Reply #0
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This was my first w-elf druid... I must say that I've done clouds in the past and I think those might remain my favorite. Just sucks when you have someone exploiting poisonous/wrathing and wooden weapons at the same time.
I actually managed to level too quickly with her though... shield block was only around 77% there at the end and parry not much higher, so most fights were simply painful. To add to that, I tried following Iunna as a first time (which painfully showed) and from the get-go it was pretty disenchanting... Not good when a god thinks you're in the wrong shrine afterall.
In any case, there just wasn't any guidance and I wish there could have been. Combining that to the beat downs for not having great defenses and I just wasn't lighting fires under anyone's arses. heh
As far as the name, yeah, screw you. Blows my mind how some people are just 110% positive somebody does something like that for powergame reasons. I just liked the sound of the name, but I always try to accomplish those sounds in unconventional means... treana was still suppose to retain three syllables, and when I was able to change my name, picked a more appropriate spelling which emulated the sound better.
I was actually rather annoyed when people would target the stupid treant, but luckily it wasn't too often. Just.. what the hell... too hard to stick treana in an alias? Or people just THAT lazy and type in dirt tr, cause I feel like most are guilty of two-three letter targeting.
Anyway.. decided to toss her out the window and knew it was done when the only reason I would have kept her around was cause of the 500 gold in her bank than for actual desire to play her. That was always another pet peeve of mine.. thank you all for naming me the winner in that contest thingy. It was funny how I had spent several hours putting that together the day before just for RP between Iunna and I, and then it just seemed a perfect forum to present it.
My pet peeve is that I didn't even get 200 xp or anything. I don't wanna come across like I expect it, but I feel like there is a bit of a standard that's been set across the board when they do those little events.. and usually participants and/or winners get a little xp tossed there way. I didn't get nothin.
But yeah, wish I could have been more enamored with your religion Iunna, but I suppose it ain't for me, or wasn't that time.
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#80598, "No offense"
In response to Reply #3
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but when your name is one letter off the spelling of a pet you can call, and you didn't think of it when you created the character, it is still really suspect. If it was truly unintentional,
As for targetting, it is quicker for people who don't use alias'es to use shorter versions of it (whole reason it was put in), this includes hitting, directed specs, etc. So apparently everyone should, during the heat of a battle, type in every time, "artery Treana" to make sure they don't hit that Treant which came into the room last and is automatically the 1. trean?
Even with aliases, during battles, you don't have every skill 'aliased' for a name, especially mid battle only ones. So you have the same problem.
Basically it was just unfair and I hope you see why and accept the responsibility for it instead of trying to pin the responsibility on other players.
Beyond that, good luck with your next.
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EXB | Fri 29-May-09 12:05 AM |
Member since 15th Jun 2005
102 posts
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#80616, "Never said it wasn't fair and never said I wouldn't acc..."
In response to Reply #4
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I was annoyed and disturbed by everyone up in arms about it being 100% intentional. That wasn't the truth.
I was annoyed every single time I could tell someone would hit the liveoak instead of me because of the name thing. I don't like to win my battles that way, period. I was very thankful for the name change, but I also don't get why it took until 45. On the other hand, I do realize now that I didn't go praying for a name change and maybe I should have after people starting complaining.
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Java | Fri 29-May-09 12:09 AM |
Member since 07th Apr 2003
1055 posts
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#80618, "You know.."
In response to Reply #9
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I don't believe you.
You're just not that stupid, honestly. You knew you were rolling a Druid when you chose that name. You knew that, for a huge part of your character's life, you would have a Treant following that character's life.
You can't tell me that it never occurred to you that Treana and Treant start with the same five letters. I mean, I guess you can tell me that. But then I'll call you a liar.
Now you're going to get all up and arms about me calling you a liar, when you just made a simple mistake. But I don't give ####. You chose a name because you wanted it to give you an advantage. Everyone knew it. Even you. Play the game and deny it if you want, but no one buys it.
*I never fought or interacted with Treana IC. Even if I did, I use a simple targetting alias, so I doubt it would matter. But some people don't or simply can't do that, and so this DOES hamstring them. You can call them lazy if you want, but shortening names is accepted for a reason.
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EXB | Sat 30-May-09 01:49 AM |
Member since 15th Jun 2005
102 posts
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#80639, "RE: You know.."
In response to Reply #11
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completely valid point except for one thing. Its not co 'summon treant', its co 'liveoak'
having played several druids(while back) this is how itt didn't click. in my head i wasnt thinking treant
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#80643, "But You can't Order Liveoak can you?"
In response to Reply #13
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It's Order Treant.
And you have too many "Come to think of its" in your post.
You lied and treants died.
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EXB | Sun 31-May-09 04:41 AM |
Member since 15th Jun 2005
102 posts
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#80661, "wow you people are amzing"
In response to Reply #15
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at being narrow-minded.
Correct: order treant
My typical use: order all My secondary use: aa
aa= #alias aa (order treant rescue)
The only time I conciously reference that power is by way of commune liveoak. But like I said, whatever?
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Iunna | Thu 28-May-09 08:41 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#80605, "RE: Ah, Treana.. Not many goodbyes, but some explanatio..."
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I can't even begin to tell you how much flak I got for empowering that name. I didn't catch on until afterwards when another IMM criticized me for it, and oh well. My personal opinion was that if you can't type out six letters, you're just being ####ing lazy. In the end I caved and asked you to change it because I got so god damn tired of listening to the various playerbase complaints.
As far as the religion goes - I seriously never understood why you came to the shrine without a sphere. The whole conversation I kept trying to ICly ask you what drove you and it seemed like you didn't want to pick one. I don't know if it was because you didn't think I was going to empower you or what, but it really put me off from the get-go. On top of that, yeah, I got a big-time Shazirah religion feel from everything you were saying, which didn't help.
That said I'm sorry things didn't work out for you on any level. A lot of it just seemed like a struggle. I hope you have better luck with the next.
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#80613, "uhh pvp is a game of speed and positioning"
In response to Reply #5
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forcing someone to always type out 5 letters instead of 2 or three when targetting is without doubt a significant advantage. Assuming we all move at the same speed mechanically if i need to achieve three more keystrokes then you to achieve the same thing (plus I get penalized when I type in less) then well...
Your sentiment shouldn't be people are too lazy to type six letters, it should be people are too lazy to build simple targetting and alias systems since thats what all the mediocre and better players do.
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EXB | Fri 29-May-09 12:02 AM |
Member since 15th Jun 2005
102 posts
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#80615, "I would have preferred the name change so much earlier ..."
In response to Reply #5
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What do you mean without a sphere? I was sphere fire and I wanted to be driven by both the physical and the metaphorical aspects of it. But from the get go, I got the impression you wanted me to throw that out the window and then yes.. I wasn't left with too much to work with.
As far as Shazirah, I was real hesitant on trying reform the basis for the character. I wanted and planned to be more offensive, but that was painfully difficult being up against the plethora of villagers without practicing my defenses better. The desert goddess seemed a bit more, watch and help from the side lines and that was far from the end goal that I sought.
Which I think is my problem... I know I could have gotten there too, but I felt like you had some immediate expectation.
But yeah.. could you elaborate on not wanting to pick a sphere? Thought I had...
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Iunna | Fri 29-May-09 06:27 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
473 posts
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#80631, "You came to the shrine without a sphere chosen."
In response to Reply #8
Edited on Fri 29-May-09 06:31 PM
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In fact, I tried to ICly get you to pick one, and you didn't, so I did the best I could trying to glean out what sphere it was you were trying to follow, and then used force to have you pick it.
Tue Mar 10 22:26:14 2009 by 'Iunna' at level 10 (1 hrs): Initial empowerment interview started off shaky - I wasn't really getting an Iunna vibe from her, plus she hadn't picked a sphere yet. Seemed to come around after some prompting from Goroel.
As to the name - why didn't you just ask for a name change then?
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EXB | Sat 30-May-09 01:54 AM |
Member since 15th Jun 2005
102 posts
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#80640, "what in the world..."
In response to Reply #12
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I dont even understand how that happened then... I've never gone to a gods shrine without a chosen sphere... I especially don't recall you using a force command on me to pick it. Huh, I'm flabbergasted.
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#80612, "Yes, yes, you just liked the sound of the name"
In response to Reply #3
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####ing retard. You broke the rule because of the powergamer reason. Go #### yourself or admit it and still go #### yourself.
Sadly you didn't do it into my range.
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EXB | Fri 29-May-09 12:07 AM |
Member since 15th Jun 2005
102 posts
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#80617, "Mmmm, I'm flattered."
In response to Reply #6
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And I have nothing to prove to you, nor am into self screwing, but if that works for you I won't judge. Just keep it to yourself.
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#80594, "How you got away with that name for 45 levels is beyond..."
In response to Reply #0
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... Treana --> Treyana... really?
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lurker | Thu 28-May-09 01:20 PM |
Member since 13th Mar 2006
249 posts
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#80596, "She had a perfectly valid RP reason nt"
In response to Reply #1
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ForsoothAnon | Sat 30-May-09 02:48 PM |
Member since 01st Feb 2007
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#80644, "I Lol'd. n/t"
In response to Reply #2
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