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Death_AngelMon 04-Mar-02 05:05 PM
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#5018, "(CON) Janroth the Grand Master of Changelings"


          

Mon Mar 4 17:04:02 2002


9 o''clock PM, Day of the Sun, 34th of the Month of the Long Shadows on the Theran calendar Janroth perished, never to return.

Race:human
Class:shapeshifter
Level:51
Alignment:Neutral
Ethos:Neutral
Cabal:NEXUS, Nexus, Seekers of Balance
Age:52
Hours:244
PK Ratio:30% (closer to 100% is better)

  

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Reply RE: (CON) Janroth the Grand Master of Changelings, Taithin, 04-Mar-02 05:39 PM, #2
Reply RE: (CON) Janroth the Grand Master of Changelings, Divox, 04-Mar-02 06:11 PM, #5
Reply RE: (CON) Janroth the Grand Master of Changelings, Varrik (Guest), 04-Mar-02 08:43 PM, #6
Reply RE: (CON) Janroth the Grand Master of Changelings, Taithin, 05-Mar-02 10:12 AM, #13
     Reply RE: (CON) Janroth the Grand Master of Changelings, Varrik (Guest), 05-Mar-02 10:53 AM, #15
          Reply RE: (CON) Janroth the Grand Master of Changelings, Taithin, 05-Mar-02 11:00 AM, #17
               Reply RE: (CON) Janroth the Grand Master of Changelings, Varrik (Guest), 05-Mar-02 12:31 PM, #19
Reply RE: (CON) Janroth the Grand Master of Changelings, Boy Scout (Guest), 04-Mar-02 09:03 PM, #7
Reply RE: (CON) Janroth the Grand Master of Changelings, Fristapholin (Guest), 04-Mar-02 09:26 PM, #8
Reply RE: (CON) Janroth the Grand Master of Changelings, Vahlen, 05-Mar-02 01:01 AM, #9
Reply RE: (CON) Janroth the Grand Master of Changelings, Nydeikon (Guest), 05-Mar-02 02:13 AM, #10
Reply RE: (CON) Janroth the Grand Master of Changelings, Taithin, 05-Mar-02 10:23 AM, #14
Reply RE: (CON) Janroth the Grand Master of Changelings, Theerkla, 05-Mar-02 05:31 AM, #12
Reply RE: (CON) Janroth the Grand Master of Changelings, Dullameh, 05-Mar-02 10:56 AM, #16
Reply RE: (CON) Janroth the Grand Master of Changelings, Lorak, 05-Mar-02 12:21 PM, #18
Reply RE: (CON) Janroth the Grand Master of Changelings, Manecit (Guest), 05-Mar-02 06:29 PM, #20
Reply RE: (CON) Janroth the Grand Master of Changelings, Maelifarau, 04-Mar-02 05:19 PM, #1
     Reply RE: (CON) Janroth the Grand Master of Changelings, Taithin, 04-Mar-02 05:43 PM, #3
          Reply RE: (CON) Janroth the Grand Master of Changelings, Maelifarau, 04-Mar-02 05:52 PM, #4
               Reply You're really strange., the porcupine (Guest), 05-Mar-02 02:23 AM, #11

TaithinMon 04-Mar-02 05:39 PM
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#5019, "RE: (CON) Janroth the Grand Master of Changelings"
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Knew this was coming, decided just to have abit of fun and end the character, rather than sit around trying to stay alive. Damned necromancers get me every time. Forget on a shapeshifter is just wrong. Janroth was just for fun, wanted to see what Nexus was like, play something simple after Kraern and all his self-imposed restrictions, and Nexus was hurting for people. Of course, with my luck...I apply to Nexus, and they close it to all applicants. So I wait around, end up heroing, then get to be the fourth inductee under the new system. Was enjoyable just being a respected elder member, and he was a nice stress relief, though I didn't enjoy BEING him as much as some of my more intricate characters....but, to good-byes.

Nexus first of course:

Vahlen: I tend to show my respect for Immortals I like by trying to follow their religion, and do it as best I can...with that in mind, I may have to try for the Osarin Guard sometime. Your mention of what I said when I was inducted made a notable impact with what Janroth would have done otherwise. It's probably a good thing you're so strict and harsh in character, or Nexus would spend all day picking on each other. I know there were a few times I think Janroth as a character came close to disappointing Vahlen as a God, but I'm curious to hear what you think as a player. (If I get to hear that, you'll be assured at least one fan forever. *grumbles about damned dwarves leaving fire giants up in air for conclusions*)

Divox, Lord of the Lovable Little People. *chuckle* Gnomes get no respect. We fought a few times together, but those were just horrible. Probably a good thing we ended up not fighting together much, but your personality made things fun.

Lorak...an interesting pick for Elder Magus...hadn't known you at the time, had just taken a bit of a break from Janroth, but I was open-minded to see how you did, and I think you've done quite well. Keep it up.

Nydeikon: As a player, I've always thought rather well of you. My characters tend to take on abit of my own stubbornness and sense of responsibility, so that assassination of Segroi bothered Janroth a good bit. I understood as a player why, but still didn't quite care for it. It caused the end of Janroth's life to go a touch different than I thought it would.

Theerkla: You said it yourself, I'll said it again...DAMN we made a good team. Running around with you was quite enjoyable, mainly because I could always count on you to manage your half in an emergency.

Fristapholin: Always got along well with you, it'll be interesting to hear how things go. Remember what I told you to ask Divox or Vahlen.

Other Nexus....there's many of you I could continue to name, but that would take me forever...needless to say, I don't think there's a single one of you I don't like...keep up the good work.


Scions: Half the time enemies, half the time friends...if it weren't for necromancers, I tend to enjoy enemies just because it keeps things lively.

Honorable mention to Tilaen and Viornsra, you two were noteworthy.

Dullameh: Told you. *grin*

Dawn/Maran/Herald: Not many of you around, never interacted with many...thanks again to Zardik though, for trying to help me out.

Sylvan: I came *SO* close to trying to get an all-out war with you. I'm still miffed about that four-person gang on an unshifted mage wearing pitch-black rings being confused for a Warlock. Some interesting fights. Manecit gets honorable mention here.

Battle: You get to bring up the rear, because I think I spent more time in the village fighting with you all than at the Rift. Manarei gets ever honor I can think of here. You *REALLY* came far from that little assassin defender I remember as Kraern.

Varrik: I hate to go at someone...but I had utterly no respect for you. I think there's times you fought me alone, but overall...it was all downhill.

Samar: Way back at the start...I should never bothered going ram. Got me killed so damned often...sometimes I hated you, sometimes I liked you.

Segroi: Rather hate to see you delete. You're the sort of villager I'd like to see more of.

Hmm, now that I'm thinking about it though...spent too long just fighting, I can't even remember half of the villagers individually, who I liked or disliked. Overall, I noticed a disturbing tendancy to come at me two or three against me alone, or try and hedge the rules..."We never attacked together, it was 1-1 all the time." Two I can understand...croc's damn near impossible for a lot of people to kill solo, but...you also never had much of a chance of dying, and more than two on me's just cowardly.

Never really interacted with the Imms aside from Vahlen with Janroth, but as always.....all the effort you all put into it is recognized. Thanks.

  

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DivoxMon 04-Mar-02 06:11 PM
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#5034, "RE: (CON) Janroth the Grand Master of Changelings"
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Well, knew this was going to happen sooner or later because you were as prone to dying in a fight as I was. Probably why we never made a good team (Two easy to kill Nexus bonded means two easy to kill bonded Nexus). In general of course you were tougher to kill and we did pull off one great victory in my time and you using that ram form (Yay, we got Meushen!). You were my first bonding partner then you had to up and disappear on me.

We had good times and bad ones but we made the most of it. Good luck on your next character.

Divox

  

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Varrik (Guest)Mon 04-Mar-02 08:43 PM

  
#5029, "RE: (CON) Janroth the Grand Master of Changelings"
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Another player who expects their enemies to come when they snap their finger. Your tactics were annoying, pety, and for the most part unsuccessful. There was nothing I liked about your char. And when you spoke you made it clear there was alot you just did not get. By your post I would have been a 'good rager' if I had come to market square and stood naked with wimpy 0 at your beckon call.

My advice to you, play a rager before you tell anyone else how to be one.

>Varrik: I hate to go at someone...but I had utterly no respect for you. I think there's times you fought me alone, but overall...it was all downhill.


  

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TaithinTue 05-Mar-02 10:12 AM
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#5030, "RE: (CON) Janroth the Grand Master of Changelings"
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> My advice to you, play a rager before you tell anyone else how to be one.

Uhm...you're kinda talking out of your ass here. I've had a Veteran from a while back, and my last character was a villager who was rather respected by most players. As for being at my beck and call...yeah, there's times you might not come out for the fight, but that's no excuse for over half our fights to be me alone and out-numbered. The major issue that just set the tone against you was the day Theerkla and I raided, and all you did was poison dart us until the Destructor was writhing before you even TRIED a real defense.

  

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Varrik (Guest)Tue 05-Mar-02 10:53 AM

  
#5031, "RE: (CON) Janroth the Grand Master of Changelings"
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Was that the day you took the head, and I immediately killed Theerkla, another raider(maybe you) and the other ran off bloody. It was immediately after that defense that I was given a title and a battle imm complemented me. It was a damn near perfect defense. *pat self* Two raiders died and the head was looted from a corpse.

My char was not strong. It was a bloody human assassin with defender powers. Not the weakest, but 1/6th of a Loborguz. Am I really meant to go toe-to-toe with a giant axe spec and an offensive shifter? *chuckle*

As Varrik, I experienced similar frustration with other players. Ones like Lanaulyn who I didn't consider tough, or a threat, but made it tough for me to kill them. An air-form who I never snuck up to outside of their guild, and always caught me at a bad time. My first instinct was to criticize, belittle and use every insult I could muster against him. But with a little reflection, and enough sense to step outside of a Varrik-centric view of the universe...his tactics were something to admired, as annoying and 'dishonorable' as they were.

  

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TaithinTue 05-Mar-02 11:00 AM
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#5032, "RE: (CON) Janroth the Grand Master of Changelings"
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No, the raid I'm talking about was a good bit before the one you're talking of. And it's not the days when you're avoiding us as a bonded pair that make me dislike you, but the days I come alone and don't even get a fair fight that bother me. Even defender powers + spellbane/resist/truesight are more powers than a Nexus member gets alone.

  

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Varrik (Guest)Tue 05-Mar-02 12:31 PM

  
#5033, "RE: (CON) Janroth the Grand Master of Changelings"
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I don't like reacting in a predictable way, especially with a char that I considered a student of war. This means that if someone does something just to evoke a response from me, I am probably going to react in some way other than what I perceive as the one they want. In addition, there are few, if any, ragers who could take down a fully prepped offensive shifter in a straight fight.

If it helps you any, Varrik really, really hated Janroth. Talno being the only one he ever hated more.

  

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Boy Scout (Guest)Mon 04-Mar-02 09:03 PM

  
#5028, "RE: (CON) Janroth the Grand Master of Changelings"
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You impressed me alot, and I always gave you those battles you deserved, except the time you interrupted a conversation I was having, and we went after you 2-1. Sorry about that.
A ranger vs. a croc is a pain in the ass, and I really would have owned you with powers, as you know, but not having them made the fighting fun. Asking me to do a 180 roleplay pissed me off, but I would have asked if I was you, too.

*pours out a 40 for a croc*

-Boy Scout
Any good way to contact you?

  

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Fristapholin (Guest)Mon 04-Mar-02 09:26 PM

  
#5027, "RE: (CON) Janroth the Grand Master of Changelings"
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*mutters*
Well now I know why you stopped following me suddenly.
I thought you went ahead and decided to join with Lorak
and that other one! Oh well, guess I wasn't there to
save you this time from that nasty necromancer! Don't
worry, I'll try to get him for you! Did it once, might
do it again! Over, Janroth was a great char, considering
I knew you now through two characters. You did a good
job and were always there for attacking the village (which
is fun unless your fighting an arial sword specialist that
seems to be unparriable!) I for one will miss you, the last
of the competant shapeshifters are gone from the rift (mutters)
Hope you have fun with whatever you decide to do! And I will
talk tothem.

Frist!

  

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VahlenTue 05-Mar-02 01:01 AM
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#5026, "RE: (CON) Janroth the Grand Master of Changelings"
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Well thanks first of all. At first you just happen to approach Nexus at the wrong time as we were going through a transition. I was trying to let alot of the old memeber die out and then gradualy change the philosophy. You didn't get the third degree that most other hero chars get when applying to the cabal since I remember a little lad by the name of Janroth back at the 15th rank. He was also seeking any information on Nol.

I remember watching you and was amazed at how much of a tank the croc was. It was that one day where you just sat at the destructor all day hardly taking any damage. As well, you usualy showed guts in going out and fighting people, and wasn't afraid to question people on issues. Though the Nydeikon thing was something that should have been between you two and not even gotten to the point of me stepping in. Though I was glad to see you react well to me asking about your oath. That earned you alot of points since many would say to hell with it and start pking as much as they could.

As you pointed out, Vahlen is quite strict on things as he has a narrow view. If its your duty, then you do it. No if, ands or buts. If you do that, then your cool by him. Its when you start to question it, or start bickering at others about your duty that he starts to get annoyed. You did quite well and kept the peace usualy among the members of the Rift. And the only time was that Nydeikon issue.

anyway,
Good luck on your next char.

  

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Nydeikon (Guest)Tue 05-Mar-02 02:13 AM

  
#5024, "RE: (CON) Janroth the Grand Master of Changelings"
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What to say...? Well first of all thanks for the good times and the bad, they were memorable, to say the least. You had just seemed to be built with the foundation of the Rift, one of those old school Seekers, if there is such a thing. Not sure I'll comment on the whole "disagreement" we had, perhaps when I'm dead and gone. I'm really sorry that it ruined the end of your character though, I really didn't have that intention, I'm truely sorry. Anyhow, best of luck on the next one, and congradulations on a good job with this one. See you in the fields.

That Whil guy.

  

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TaithinTue 05-Mar-02 10:23 AM
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#5025, "RE: (CON) Janroth the Grand Master of Changelings"
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No no no no no....that little "disagreement" didn't ruin the character. It just changed the way I expected things to end up, and to some degree, I made it abit bigger of an issue than it might have been. If you bring it up once you die, I'll say a bit more, but it did make things abit interesting, as Janroth really tried to avoid you after that, still rather upset about that. But anyways, just wanted to clear up that our interactions didn't cause me any problems. Though I'm still debating whether I should have just gotten myself booted, and gotten a title out of the deal, even if it would be a bad one since I was so close to condeath anyways. *chuckle*

  

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TheerklaTue 05-Mar-02 05:31 AM
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#5023, "RE: (CON) Janroth the Grand Master of Changelings"
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Hrm...... all the old ones are dying off it seems. Anyways, where to begin. Loved having you around, Ram/Croc is just a nasty combo. Once we got our stuff together you and I never had any problems at the desctructor (unless we had too many allies with us *grin*). The best fight ever was when it was three villagers against four of us at the destructor. You were like "Let's go take the head" and I was dragging my feet thinking the odds were to poor. But damn if we didn't do it. Two kills, the head and the other sent off with his tail between his legs.

Luck next time around.

  

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DullamehTue 05-Mar-02 10:56 AM
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#5022, "RE: (CON) Janroth the Grand Master of Changelings"
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It's a damn shame. When you told me so, I took it with a grain of salt but I guess you were serious. You did a great job with this character, and I commend you and most of the rest of the Nexites for playing it out til the end. Good luck with your next character.

  

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LorakTue 05-Mar-02 12:21 PM
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#5021, "RE: (CON) Janroth the Grand Master of Changelings"
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Well, after you told me that one more death and you might con die I was like.....well this is the last of Janroth. I just got that feeling that it was the day he went bye-bye.....well very good charectar. As a char I respected him immensly...as a player I respected him immensly....we had some fun times that's for sure..all those raids on the village made things fun. Well we lost another one now. Seems all the hero's are diein off almost...I only have mid 300's in hours and a long way to go. Well. You stuck in there a lot weither you were out numbered or not. You seemed to be around a lot after I got Elder (some how) and I didn't know you before that. Which mighta been a good thing. Before Elder Lorak was cocky and big headed and full of himself. So mighta saved a lot of trouble with that. But Thank you for the fun and hope we can do it again. Congrats.

See you in the Fields


  

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Manecit (Guest)Tue 05-Mar-02 06:29 PM

  
#5020, "RE: (CON) Janroth the Grand Master of Changelings"
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Thanks for the mention. I felt so bad when I killed you during that incident. Looking at you wasn't really the concern. We had 3 or 4 villagers with us and a mage showed up. Unfortunately, it was you. There was more to killing you than you realized though, but that is an ic issue which I really shouldn't get into here. Lets just say, that your death saddened me, but forwarded our cause at the same time. Players with courage, like yours, are what make CF the best mud out there for players like us. I am sure we will see each other quite often in the fields, good players tend to run into each other all the time. Good luck on your next.

  

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MaelifarauMon 04-Mar-02 05:19 PM
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#5035, "RE: (CON) Janroth the Grand Master of Changelings"
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Ugh... seems that were your last fight. I still not quite sure how did you die (I suspect, though). Would be interesting to see the log, if you have it. At least I won't have to deal with so many of you ;P
Good luck with your next.

  

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TaithinMon 04-Mar-02 05:43 PM
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#5036, "RE: (CON) Janroth the Grand Master of Changelings"
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Ask Dullameh about it, he did the same damned thing to me. I don't log hardly at all, and with using basic telnet, it wipes the whole buffer when I get disconnected. (As in the case with condeath)

Apparantly there's few things added that cause shifters to be a little more aware of what they're doing....my last death wasn't a pretty one. First I dissolved into an amorphous pile of ooze trying to revert from lack of mana (crimson scourge + some other things I'll leave it up to the players to figure out), so I died...then the whole lack energy to maintain speed/etc, then my bones broke for some reason I'm not entirely sure of...then my vitality gives out, condeath, disconnected. Yuck

  

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MaelifarauMon 04-Mar-02 05:52 PM
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#5037, "RE: (CON) Janroth the Grand Master of Changelings"
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Didn't even mention me in farewells what a bastard.
This is what I saw (been fighting Omodonore and porcupine, saw it only in the log):

--- log begins

<700hp 374m 556mv 9 PM> Omodonore yells 'Help someone is attacking me!'
Omodonore resists the disease.

<700hp 349m 556mv 9 PM> l crocodile

A porcupine has arrived.

<700hp 349m 556mv 9 PM>
A zombie of an elite storm giant soldier's pound scratches an angry crocodile.
A zombie of an elite storm giant soldier's pound grazes an angry crocodile.
A zombie of a storm giant lieutenant's pound grazes an angry crocodile.
A zombie of a storm giant lieutenant's pound scratches an angry crocodile.
A flesh golem's pierce scratches an angry crocodile.
A ghoul's pierce scratches an angry crocodile.

An angry crocodile splatters blood on your armor.
Janroth's bones creak and snap as he shapeshifts.
Janroth's shapeshifting decimates him!

--- log ends

Too bad others came, porcupine would accompany you otherwise

  

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the porcupine (Guest)Tue 05-Mar-02 02:23 AM

  
#5038, "You're really strange."
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still trying to figure out why a scarab necromancer would come up and cause problems for us trying to take the head. Anyhow the only reason you got off the sleep is because I didn't want you saying on the forums that I just spam murder so I gave you a chance to walk in while I typed where. *shrug* new keyboard now so it won't happen again

Kaz.

  

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