Mon Apr 25 14:38:01 2005

At 8 o'clock PM, Day of the Sun, 34th of the Month of the Battle
on the Theran calendar Nabburak perished, never to return.

Could you post both chapters of your role in full form for it's cut off on PBF. Pretty interesting and funny creatiff %)

Thank you.

Because CF programmers are lazy and PBF stuff is full of bugs my role there is cut .
So here is the full version of it.

Subject: Youth
Added Sat Jan 15 06:37:19 2005 at level 9:
Nabburak's previous life is mostly unknown and it is unlikely
you will find anyone who could tell about his childhood and youth.
He is not willing to talk much about his past either because
he prefers when people judge him based upon his current deeds.
However, in a life of every man, there are events every of which
can become a turning point and it is amazing to see how small
details can play significant role in one's fate.

Something similar has taken place in Nabburak's life.
It is doubtful that we can restore full circumstances of that
event but from rare indirect sources, his own words and
our imagination we can try to reproduce of what actually
happened there.

He was born in a small isolated fire giant village not so far
from Arkham. The village was surrounded by mountains and
practically had no connection with the outer world. Rarely you
could see any stranger here. Who was his father is unknown and
his mother died when he was a little baby. Thus, Nabburak and
his brother lived with their crazy grandmother. Though nobody
liked her, he was to some extent happy with his primitive lifestyle...
at least as long as he was young and not concerned about anything.

At next fair, which took place in the village on the first day
of summer one of those events occurred that could change
the whole life of a person. Nabburak and his brother were observing
village marketplace from the top of the nearest hill when
a magic portal had suddenly opened right at the center of the square
and three odd-looking strangers jumped out of it.
Now, it's almost impossible to find out what exactly they wanted.
Nevertheless, Nabburak and his brother came to conclusion that
they were a traveling band and decided to join the celebration.

Their leader was the very tall giant dressed in motley clothes
and shining armor. He looked very similar to a clown, besides,
all his body was tattooed with shapes of a fiery bird. He even
had a tattoo of this fiery bird with spread wings right on his
forehead. Close to him a short but broad-shouldered dwarf stood.
He was playing with huge skittles, most likely, he was a juggler,
brothers had decided. The third one was a thin, almost transparent,
but beautiful and elegant young elf carrying a large flickering
amulet covered with runes (which could be approximately translated
into giant's language as "Hungry Power"). Perhaps a jester?

The giant raised his hands to the sky, perhaps trying to
greet villagers, but the young apprentice ruined everything
with his impatience. He has been distracted for a moment and had lost
his control over the amulet. It exploded! An unleashed wave
of brilliant energy instantly burnt the whole village and
the apprentice fool himself. His companions narrowly escaped
the cataclysm through the portal.

With uncontrollable fury, Nabburak's brothers screamed:
"Damned magic!"
"Stupid mages!"
"Bloody Hell!"
"I declare my feud, no mage will escape my avenge!"
"Are you with me, brother?"

However, Nabburak was still shocked and did not answer anything.
Cursing and screaming, his enraged brother has run away.
They have not seen each other since then, but rumors tell that
his brother have been spotted somewhere nearby barbarians' camp
in Ostalagiah Ruins.

Nabburak stood there motionless and speechless for another ten
minutes then something within him turned over. He exhaled:
"Unbelievable!"
"That was.... GREAT!"
"The whole village within a moment!"
"Wonderful! FANTASTIC!"
"I want.... I want to learn...."
"I WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO THE SAME!"
Since then his life had a purpose: To burn villages and enjoy the fire.
A month later, he reached Arkham and started to study destructive magic.

Subject: Maturity
Added Wed Jan 19 15:09:28 2005 at level 23:
Several years had passed. Having taught elementary spells
Nabburak finally made his first attempt to destroy a small village.
It was utter and shameful failure. Villagers laughed hard at him
when he tried to perform his ritual. Luckily for him, they didn't
even consider his intentions seriously as from their point of view
it was just a foolish joke. Thus, they didn't bother to punish him
and simply kicked him out of the village. It was a harsh lesson for him.
He had realized how much he needs to study before he would be able
to accomplish his goal. In addition, he had understood that
at this rate he is going to spend a lot of time and efforts
in preparation for every single "act of purification".
Quickly, by giants' standards, he came to conclusion that
with allies and servants he would be able to burn not one,
but many villages at once. He decided to find and join a fitting
community in order to fulfill his plans. Moreover, should he take
the lead of this community, he will be able to burn even big cities.

The story is short, I got deposed by the council and thus I deleted.
My working schedule is getting tight lately and it is expected
to be even tighter in May, so I'm not going to spend my free time
sticking to the character which I doubt I will truly enjoy anymore.
This is my second imperial and I tried to avoid some mistakes
I've made with my first one. Overall I would call it "partial success".
Some goals I've reached, at others I've failed.

It was my first anti-paladin, so I spent quite some time learing
the class. I did a lot dumb things at low ranks, also giant's int
isn't great so my skills/spells were not working. I did not aim
for a big axe. There are several reasons for that.
First of all, I meant to be tough but not that deathful. People
kept escaping from me! Fire APs' PK range is BAD. Everybody has
several ranks above you so expect to get some beating while you rank.
The Fortress was quite strong and fighting marans backed by heroes
isn't the fastest way to gather charges. I haven't a well designed
perma-gang with me ( What? It is necessary for any big-axe-AP! ) and
I didn't bother to sit at middle ranks. Though I was crawling through
levels very slowly because of almost non-existant Empire so I heroed
in 270 hours. ( And I had no barrier source until I heroed ).
Once I heroed I replaced Vinson with a barrier wand and decide
to become beastly
My link is not great so I was prepared for some unexpected deaths,
in fact, I lost two of my axes because of link loss. First one, 6 charges,
at 40th level, after retrieval I lost my link inside the Fortress and
they killed me. The second one was 24 charges axe, I attacked Dorthonion
and Llyria at the maran and lost my link. Heh, I still had a hope
I will defeat them while being link dead, but... Oh well.
The highest axe I had before the pfile restoration was 110 charges.
Not the greatest but remarkable enough. And it exceeded my expectations
anyway. APs have a lot of skill/spells but you can't use them all in
a fight, so often bash is the best option, yeah. Seriously, you can't
spend ten rounds trying to land "power word despondence". Vault is good,
facelash has it uses, but I didn't use it because giant dex doesn't
let me to carry a spare dagger. Also I find it's funny that my most
powerful opening moves like sleep, cleave, worldbind, etc are negated
by cabal powers of my enemies. Marans autoattack you, scions counter
your spells, outlanders are invisible and ragers spellbane everything.



Immortals

Give Anti-paladins the "dodge" skill and open the Hell again.
I know, I'm not the best roleplayer, I'm too old for that, so I felt
sorry for those of you who had to deal with me.

Khasotholas - Well, I've failed to be your follower, you ignored me.
I personally prefer to have any feedback even if it's negative, because
constructive feedback helps us to become better.
My main concern was the whole "praising thing". While roleplaying wise
it is very valid thing, it's horrible from gameplaying point of view.
And being told that I should promote to the council only your followers
made it even worse. IC I had no way to fight it, being your follower
myself, but OOC I felt bad for players who didn't happen to be your
followers. All I could do about it IC is to let it slide away.

Grurk - We didn't interact much because I wasn't your follower.
Stop bugging me with the Shadow Sect, damnit!
I was looking for a candidate on the Shadow Lord position all the time,
but since Nievar's deletion no shadow ranked into hero range and I didn't
want a random levelsitter who is going to delete soon to be my Shadow Lord.
I almost set a trigger to promote the first who has some consistency and
entered hero range. But it just didn't happen.

The legendary axe named 'Keset'rah, Devourer of Discord'
You are nothing compared to "Defiance"! I mean what the hell? Goodies
have "Defiance" which makes every dummy paladin very deathful ( and they
dare to cry about demon headed maces? ). Thanks for some interaction
and assistance. I didn't expect my reward to be any powerful. Basically,
I've got this 28 avr weapon with detect chaotic and some additional damage
against them instead of my previous 33 avr axe. Not the great trade but
not the bad either. Actually, looking through Brulgbabauth's farewells,
I think I was lucky enough as it could be much worse. I don't know all
the properties of the axe and the immortal who gave it to me didn't tell
me what to expect. I still wonder what would happen with the axe and
charges should I die. And, of course, I wasn't going to try it out myself.
Despite of the fact it was based on a leader's weapon, other players
could touch it without any troubles.



Empire

Ordinary Black Sect powers are a joke, but emperor's powers are cool.
To bad you have to keep the Codex in order to use them

Makholvek - Notable, consistent and worthy imperial.
Though you were promoted to the Dread Lord position by Khasotholas
I was going to do the same, I just couldn't catch you online for weeks.
Our playing times were different lately. I knew you were coming and you
were going to try it sooner or later. Being a Khasotholas follower you
don't have many options
I expected it to be "later" but I guess some divine intervention made
it "sooner". The majoriy of the stereotyped players would suggest me
to destroy you earlier, but I wasn't going to look for any lame reason
to demote or anathema you. Liching isn't quite easy and I respected you
as a player. I didn't want to ruin your character in any way even if you
were coming to my place. And IC I didn't want to weaken the Black Sect.
So in my passive defense I had to rely only on the rest of council not
being helpful to you. In general, there are not many reasons for the
High Priestess to vote for one Black over another Black when she is
supposed to bring the throne under the Divine Sect control and there are
not many reasons for the War Mistress wanting to replace one Black with
another Black who is even more more zealous follower of Khasotholas
while she is not.

Vinson - A skilled and solid imperial healer, we need more of them.
I liked to have you on my side. The only your problem was your ego.
As for voting: you basically asked me to vote for you while not promising
anything to me in return. Moreover you had an alliance with Skolgrar
at that time. Not the best way to convince me that I should place my vote
for you.

Skolgrar - I didn't see you very often but when I did I liked you also.
Thanks for the nasty axes you gave to me. You just disappeared, what happened?

Nievar - I understand you frustration with thieves in hero range but
you were ballsy and quite an asset for the Empire. I got a good chuckle
every time you managed to knock out the whole Fortress, they looked silly.
Too bad I usually have not enough mana to spell them up. After your
departure no shadow really impressed me to the same level.

Tirnath - I didn't see you very often as well but, overall, you were
a skilled and deathful blade. I had the only concern with you - you had
small balls. Well, not really that small, but a bit smaller than I wanted
for the War Master. That is the reason I didn't hurry with your promotion.
However you were the best blade back then and your position as
the War Master was deserved.

Zheairth - You betrayed me, burn in Hell.
At first, when we were middle ranked imperials I didn't like you,
but later I changed my mind as you were growing up. Your position as
the High Priestess was also deserved and we had some good fights together.

Sdradiga - You betrayed me, burn in Hell.
Your short anathemization was deserved. I don't know what exactly happened
between you and Tirnath and how you got promoted into his place as soon
as he got demoted. And why would a black write a scroll praising your
deeds to myself and the Dread Lord. But you made a decent War Mistress,
keep it up.

Uoukueal, Zanetta - Two worthy black who were along with me in my
early years. I guess while you were looking for the Dread Lord's seat
you missed me. Uoukeal, your dedication was the main reason I made you
the next Dread Lord. Your numerous deaths weren't a factor in my decision.

Rishudo - The Shadow Lord seat was pretty much yours should you stay
around once you hit hero range.

Asfas - Another worthy imperial healer. You preach a lot, eh. I apologize
that I made some fun out of you a few times after your preaches over cb,
I just couldn't resist. I rarely saw you but I believe you are capable
of doing well as the High Priest.

Trepeq - I remember the first time we met, you killed my groupmate and
offered yourself as a replacement. I enjoyed ranking and hunting with you
when I was young. And Ulvicer was a tool. Haha.

Brutgelyth - Not a bad imperial shaman. I just thought you talk too
much over cb for a minotaur.

Gvan - A solid shaman. You improved lately and now you not only steal
my charges but actually bring something into combats. I appreciated
you assistance with other matters as well.

Ithzaruul, Kresh, Phyllax, Panthiero, Dulmisa, Geilotveb - new generation
of Empire, make our enemies suffer as they are going to rise their heads
again soon.



Fortress

If you wanted the Codex that bad you could always ask me
for a hard-printed copy for you.
Two main things I want to mention.
1) What is this with a pack mentality?
It is always many or nobody. With rare exceptions.
And you often bring my whole pk range to raids ( marans, ragers, outlanders )
while you have enough members in the Fortress itself.
2) One certain maran power is gay. Heh. Really, not overpowered, just gay.
It takes away tactical beauty from APs and you just end up fighting
their tank. And how it works at inner guardians is just unfair.

Now seriously, I haven't seen that strong Fortress ( PK wise ) before,
you made my life harder and my ranking a pain. It changed lately though
as many of you have gone and the Empire raises in power. But you still
have some quailty members and it is not that bad for you now because
I'm gone

Iramath - A good maran and a dangerous fighter, those hearseekers made
it only worse. It was a pleasure to slay you that time at the Palace.

Heas - When I entered hero range you were gone already and later, when
you came back I was already beastly, so I kicked your dwarven ass through
the curtain. Entwine combined with paladins is a nightmare for APs.

Llyria - You annoyed me so many times by saving my enemies. That means you
do well enough. The general rule is that one empire healer equals two
average fortress healers, but I remember the times when the Fortress
had up to four healers, so you always had a good backup even if you screw
something. Remeber, altruism gets you killed sometimes.

Jezerael - A whiner. Confirmed.

Sydrian, Icthaen - Two worthy maran warriors, though with the power
of barrier you were not really dangerous for me I still had to be careful.

Nimelerion, Tanera - You both died a lot. But you had heart.
I wasn't really looking into hunting you outside of raid situations
as I get no charges for you anyway. Should you use some preps like
fly potions or reduce you would survive in many fights where you died.

Azidreth, Zakarius - The animal army of the Fortress.
Two Fortress rams vs. Emperor Ram. Emeperor Ram wins, well, not always.
Rams are tough when they flank you. Luckely for me, you didn't use
wands often.

Martainn - Damn your kotegaeshi and tiger claws.

Krakgar, Griztukka - You kicked my arse a lot in my young years,
I kicked yours a lot also.

Ginharq - A dangerous arcane, we didn't meet each other often, but
those times we did you always were stunning me in hopeless without
troubles. Any fortress gang with you included was twice as dangerous
as one without you.

Solasarath, Alven, Cowren, Firunsheim, Ahelun ( the easiest temperance paladin )
When any of you had "Defiance" there always was a good chance for me
to die. Also paladins are tough, so forgive me if I try to bring down
your companions first.



Battleragers

Ragers are tough opponents for anti-paladins, I couldn't do much
to crazy berserkers without heavy prepping and I know my limits,
not to fight more than three ragers at once.
So if you raided me and I don't defend that means I'm either licking
my wounds because marans just kicked my arse or you have numbers
that I'm not able to affrod.

Vershelt - One tough mouthly giant. In our early fights you never put
yourself into situations where you could die, but lately something
has changed, those a few times I got you I expected you just to run
away but you would come and fight to my surprise.
Thank for numerous charges.

Kjelror - At first I hated you for all the #### you managed to pull
of as a rager. I think you did anything the real rager should never do.
Ganging, asking for communes, raiding along with mages, quiting out
of raids, hunting non-mages etc. But later you were just a source of
my amusement as to how long one can stay in the village while doing
all that stuff.

Alidliril - A slippery elf, we fought many times and I only got you once.

Tuggluk - Our paths crossed only for a short time, but you did well
and you were also a good example of what a berserker should be.

Gerylanst - Rager scout bards are immune to fire anti-paladins.
Basically, I had to wield my beloved demon headed mace and pray for
it to work. You disappeared lately, avoid that leader's syndrome
and bring the Battle Cabal back. Not with numbers but with quality.



Outlanders

I haven't seen much from you. You just sit in wilds and I usually have
nothing to do there. And you usually didn't raid the Palace alone,
though you escorted marans many times.

Reggie - Damn you. Die already. I had you slept several times and you
still got away.

Gileanas - Another slippery elf.

Salvrath - You looks promising, we shall see. A piece of advice from
a giant, use reduce.



Scions

Hrm, I don't know what to say. I almost never saw you defending or raiding.
Though I beleive you do. It just didn't happen often when I was around.

Akscereh - A flying bugger. Eh. You interrupted me so many times.
Air majors were not dangerous for me, they were just a source
of annoyance. Bah.

Anubris - There can be only one. But you had your chance when you, Vron
and Akscereh had me slept.

Runaktla - A pain in the arse. I'm glad I could see you.
"Vulture" should be your true second name.


Random people:

Onirakoth - You're odd. Yes, you are.
I wasn't looking for a close alliance with tribunals. The simply treaty
is workign well enough. First of all some of tribunals are lightwalkers
and the alliance won't work anyway. Also I've been on receiving end of
multi-cabal raids a lot and I didn't want to enforce that kind
of behaviour myself.

Grixlin - Take oath already. Heh.

Random gnome shifters and neutral bards - you are tools.

As an emperor you usually get a lot of tells, and my skill at simultaneous
talks isn't amasing.
If I ignored you that means you are a fool or I'm busy. Hah.


Nabburak Ram the True Emperor of Thera. ( Grottimgesh , Dwoggurd )

I was telling you all the same thing. You were all Khas-followers and after that I didn't care one way or the other. As far as my ego, I think it's appropriate for a Divine Sect member. They're the conduit between immortals and the Empire. If that doesn't call for arrogance I don't know what does.

Your behaviour pointed that there was the pact.
Of course, I may be wrong.
But I also talked with Nievar and Skolgrar.
Nievar suspected as much ( or perhaps he was lying too ).
And what is more important, the War Master himself was under
impression that he has a pact with you. So I made some activities
trying to suggest him that you are gonna drop this pact and betray him.

As for ego, that is okay if it is your role. I don't really mind.
I just pointed out that your ego didn't help you to get more votes.

Vulture is a compliment in my book Transmuters are
99% timing against people who are powerful (you) or have
tons of saves vs. paralysis (Fortress - although some
are powerful too I admit). I walked around duo during
more than one "Villager/Outlander/Fortress" pack raid
and seen you survive and even take down some against
incredible odds that I wasn't about to dare step out of
duo to intervene in (against either you or them). I was
impressed.

As far as Scions defending, I defend plenty where I have
a fair chance to deter or kill one of the attackers and
teleport away.

As far as Scions raiding, we just don't have the numbers
to hold onto an item from any lowbie retriever. It
becomes ingrained in your head as a Scion that it is a
little worthless "most" of the time. That said, I do raid
a lot, but my main goal is to kill the defenders, taking
the item is secondary. Also, us Scions don't have an
inferiority complex to make sure the "Chancellor" has all
of "his" items like ya'll do - we know we're better
anyways .

Tough character. As Ounlee says, Rock on.

- Runaktla

I'm not exactly sure what happened to be honest.
No idea. All i know is next thing i know your
Anathama and I'm Emperor. I'm like but what
is going on? I was gonna wait till you keeled over
to take the Throne but meh. Good Job though very good
tough cookie.

Hrm..I feel better now knowing who the player behind the ap is. I can now say I 'almost' disemboweled the player of Dwoggurd/Grottimgesh. heh. Though both times where I was waiting to input that command I died before I could. Anyway I hope I put a little? fear into you during a couple fights when you didn't have a/b/s. I'd be badly hurt, but i'd see that you were gushing and instead of inputting a pincer i'd wait a round to hope i'd get you down to writhing for the disembowel. Never worked seeing as bash bash bash = dead bird and a few charges certainly.

Sorry if you thought I ignored you, I didn't mean to. I interacted when I could. As a follower, you were decent, and as a character, I thought you were quite well played. As an Emperor, frankly, I thought you were a bit lacking. I tried to prod you a few times to, ya know, do something emperorish, but you really never did. You roleplayed, killed folks like crazy... which is fine, and admirable... you just didn't act like an Emperor most the time, in my point of view. Which is possibly why the council voted to overthrow you. And for the record, it wasn't immortal intervention. The council overthrew you fair and square, and there was no immortal prodding in any way. Of their own volition.

Again, overall, I thought a very interesting, and very well played character, with enough roleplay to make me pay attention. Sorry I couldn't always interact when you needed me too, and in retrospect, I wish I could have interacted with you more. Good job.

Khas

Post a log of using that item I helped you get over on Dios? I like to feel warm and fuzzy knowing stuff helped people kill. Nzhil never did kick the anathema from the guild. But I hoped you would not know and honor our deal. Well played as usual.

Post a log of using that item I helped you get over on Dios?
I like to feel warm and fuzzy knowing stuff helped people
kill.

I will look into it.

Nzhil never did kick the anathema from the guild. But I
hoped you would not know and honor our deal.

What anathema?
Heh, really, I found our deal useful, and it didn't bother me
if a non-existant anathema is not kicked from the guild.
We would hunt him anyway. And I wasn't looking into destruction
of your guild.

I didn't speak with your charecter that much, in truth never wanted to. You did bring fear into the fortress that is for sure. That time you raided to retrieve and made three of us flee...that was awesome. I wish you luck in your next.

Well.... When I was young and had some interactions with you, I didn't like you much. When I came close to the hero, it has been changed. I always loved when you were around.... even if after that foes started to quit, and there was none to destroy for me . But I really loved you style of fighting them. But that situation when you were betrayed you made yourself: war master and dread lord were promoted by the imms, not by you. You had to find a way to change them or even to make them loyal to you . I wish to say much more, but.... when I will be gone can't speak right now you know, why

Shame, you're gone. After that, Empire lost some more poeple.... I feel, out strength was reduced to hald even with the lich.

Good luck with your next.

Gvan the Sting of the Hornet.

Totally agree with Khasotholas. You were a great man, good game knowledge and PK skills, still I am eager to see your role, as it was always like you were not following any at all. I always had a feeling there is just a man, not the fire giant, not the deadly ap and surely not the Emperor. You had just to look at Zheairth, who behaved more Emperorly, then you did.

Still I was damn bitter I couldnt spend more time by your side. I think the healers know the feeling, when you are healing a one, who truely deserve it and will do the best with it. That's totally different from anothers, who manage to die or do next to nothing even with you spending all your mana on them.

So it happened that I saw you first on the middle ranks, then you disappeared and the next I heard about you becoming an Emperor. That was amazing! I could swear you was a piece of meat on the middle ranks and I couldnt imagine you as the Emperor. Time proved I was dead wrong. When I heard about the winning of the role contest I was puzzled again as I didnt appear to see any RP from your side.. In other words you was a mystery for me and I was very glad that I could spend a week playing in your times when my wife left to a trip

And about the treaty between Vinson and Skolgrar. Wasnt it Nievar who told you about it?

still I am eager to see your role, as it was always like
you were not following any at all.
I always had a feeling there is just a man, not the fire
giant, not the deadly ap and surely not the Emperor.

I wasn't a noble or anything like that.
I was just a random bully who happened to take the seat for his own needs.

Anyway, don't let stereotypes guide you.
I could use speech patterns like "Meh", "Yeh" to look like a giant, but I just find them dumb.
Also, another example, when you meet Bill Gates wearing jeans and glasses,
you are not going to think he's an emperor if you don't know him.
Often, truly strong people don't need to demonstrate their real power.

And about the treaty between Vinson and Skolgrar. Wasnt it
Nievar who told you about it?

See my response to Vinson.

Totally agree about about the stereotypes and about the truely strong people. Still my point was about the "looking as the emperor", that you was not. But we understand each other, you just wasnt an emperor as everyone got to see him to be.

About the treaty, I will tell my part of the story when I will be gone See you on the fields. I do hope you will follow Aarn's advice and take your place in the fort. We need more of them enemies!

You are about to have your hands very full, from more than one direction, at least two of which you do not expect.

Yeah.. I know about the preps..
but its hard to keep preps when you die alot..
and your always looted...
I know you and the hero imperials didnt loot me
or most of you..
but you lowbies willingly did..

I didnt want to fight you, cause I knew I would die
just pure luck If I got away.
and that you could see me suck so much you have no idea
ahh well..

I had fun even though I died.. not much I could do to you

Well, you were cool and deadly though a bit too soft and kind for an Emperor. I liked our times together though in later days there were just not enimies to fight because after you and I appear in the realm together they tended to disappear suddenly.
Good work and good luck with next.

Seemed like a pretty well done character. I was just sorry you didn't stick around post-anathama and stick it to the people that betrayed you with your buff axe and acompanying gear! You coulda been someone man, ya coulda been'a contender! Now, clearly, you should try a goodie.

Aarn

p.s. Sorry about whacking you when I transfered the charges from your old axe to the new one. I honestly forgot that leeching nailed the AP that created the source axe Also, the axe did have another bonus or two that you never got to see, but still I realise you gave up a bit of oomph when you switched from Conquest, which is why the new axe helped you out a couple times with some tips.

Seemed like a pretty well done character. I was just sorry
you didn't stick around post-anathama and stick it to the
people that betrayed you with your buff axe and acompanying
gear! You coulda been someone man, ya coulda been'a
contender!

Perhaps i would stick around if I were younger.
But now the temper does not guide me and If I will get some
free time I would better spend it on something new.
Those betrayers will find soon that they have gained nothing!
Deleting a godly geared AP with a big axe is a supreme action itself

Now, clearly, you should try a goodie.

Bah. I'm not sure I will be able to stay calm and helpful among all the laziness of the Fortess


p.s. Sorry about whacking you when I transfered the charges
from your old axe to the new one. I honestly forgot that
leeching nailed the AP that created the source axe

That was the worst luck ever. You started the leeching ritual
and maranoragers came to the Palace at very the same time.
I died to the power loss right at Vanquisher and I believe they
all are still puzzled why would my corpse lie there.
I believe they decided I died from terror.
I actually laughed hard at the moment that happened instead of crying.

Also, the axe did have another bonus or two that you never got to
see, but still I realise you gave up a bit of oomph when you
switched from Conquest, which is why the new axe helped you
out a couple times with some tips.

Thanks for the tips!
Also you promised to warn me when the lich will increase his activities,
but you didn't! Screw you!

Also you promised to warn me when the lich will increase his activities, but you didn't! Screw you!

The axe didn't promise anything of the sort! I just told you there wasn't a conspiracy against you at that time that he was running, and there wasn't.

There goes the most deathfull enemy. You excelled in all aspects of performance, and came on top as a savage force. You sliced through me like a knife through butter, and I was really proud when I managed to kill you (with a help of others). Now, knowing who the player was, I am not surprised your character was THAT tough. First place in the role contest also means something. Well done! Good luck with your next.

P.S. I never had Defiance, and most likely never will.

There goes the most deathfull enemy. You excelled in all
aspects of performance, and came on top as a savage force.
You sliced through me like a knife through butter, and I was
really proud when I managed to kill you (with a help of
others).

That my death was so dumb

P.S. I never had Defiance, and most likely never will.

That is not hard for you, goodies.
You can just approach someone who is holding it
and ask him politely to pass the "Defiance" to you
because you gonna fight evils... blah blah.

We seemed to have an understanding even after turning down the oath a couple of times but damned you made me nervous. I just had this feeling sooner or later I would end up feeding that axe. When we traveled I did my best to not sleep and be ready to run. That being said it is hard to turn down an offer to travel with a player who showed an excellent knowledge of the game. I never took your limited speaking as a lack of roleplay but rather how any Emperor may treat an outsider whos worth kept him alive. I have had interaction with your past characters and Nabb was yet another quality offering. Good luck on your next.

When I was called to meet you in outlying villages, I knew you were done for, but seeing I had nothing to gain from you staying around, I was long overdue for that promotion you gave me and mentioning Shadow Lord as some cookie, well I was quite sure I was going to get it as soon as you were disposed. So Dulmisa saw only a weakling gripping for straws to hang on. OOC I wanted you to stay and have Makh as a Dread Lord for a while seeing it would mean overkill... We've met before in the Empire, but more about such when I croak.

When I was called to meet you in outlying villages, I knew
you were done for, but seeing I had nothing to gain from you
staying around, I was long overdue for that promotion you gave
me and mentioning Shadow Lord as some cookie, well I was quite
sure I was going to get it as soon as you were disposed.

You were not long overdue in promotions. Not at all.
You just ranked above 40, and you were made an elite shadow.
( And it was my policy on promotion for the Shadow Sect ).
I was going to make you the Shadow Lady ( as the first shadow
who entered hero range, Shapan is another story ).
Honestly, I was tired to hear from shadows the same tells all the time:
Someone tells you "I have donations, promote me".
Donations may be enough for a promotion from oath to dweller,
but really, your next step was elite status, why do you expect to get
it as soon as you hit level and donation requirements?

And I didn't expect much loyality from you anyway,
because when you get two tells within a tick like:
War Mistress tells you 'Promote this shadow'
Shadow tells you 'Promote me'
you may become suspicious

Yeah Uoukueal was my first AP too. Boy it showed (need to remember I don't have dodge!) I learned a lot though, I'm sure I'll try another AP again, maybe I'll actually find a barrier source sometime thats in sometimes.

Before when Zanetta and I were up for DreadLord I was actually hoping not to get it, because I would have been out of my depth. After some fool I oathed insulted Grurk I got my wish. So I was happy to see you Dread Lord, and completely suprised when you offered it to me when you bumped up to Emperor.

Anyway I'm sure what ever is next from you will be deathful. Just hope I'm not on the otherside of it

Heh I could never kill you..stunning alone is not enough and with your barrier too damage is never too big a hit on you either. Having travelled with you with another char, and what little fought against you with Ginharq, I must say very well played and I enjoyed the interactions and fights.

All the best with your next!

Hey thanks for the comments! With Zanetta I just stopped playing since I was tired to die, and die and die...since I knew no wands whatsoever. Then I rolled Rishudo, but with the same results..

I thought you were really cool, and I regret not having stuck around in Empire. Keep on rocking.
You mention you're old, how old can you be?

By the way I wonder if you have any tips to learn wands and preps..do you explore, where do you know where to explore... Just wondering how to one day become a killer like you since I been playing this game for 7yrs and I still dont know much

Good luck with everything

To begin with, I haven't played since tugg, so I'm not sure how you got unseated but it is slightly awkward to hear so. Nabb and Tugg fought only a few times, but he knew of your reputation: One tough a-p and never took you without serious thought. From a player's perspective though, I knew you were wise in the game. You had made a tough a-p that all knew of and either feared/respected/hated. Not too bad considering you did this when Empire was weak. Although it can be said a lich and mummy, so I heard, have taken the council and started an Empire craze, I believe it was you who started it. So well done.

Even more importantly however, I am well aware of the level of play you present to the game Grottimgesh and Dwoggurd were both incredibly fierce characters and Nabb was no slouch either. Knowing that you played all three and I was able to go toe-to-toe with you brings me great honor and pride. You characters are amazing and do come back when your schedule loosens. You certainly are one of the reasons I come to play CF: A good challegeing fight and the few, but excellent players. Good luck with your future.

It wasn't in my character's mindset to go gathering gear while you fellas had the orb. There were plenty of times where had I even had a teleport or fly or anything really I'd have gotten clean away.
My timing was off, blew the last of my money, and never had a peaceful moment to get up a bit of money for potions.
A few of the fights surprised me though. like in velkyn. man.. grrr.
just killed the guy who had the key. typed get key and was summoned as I hit enter. I don't see it here?!?!?! *rofl*

I did far better than I expected all the times in outfit gear.
I really should have gone with more of my elven warriors old habits, hit and run. it's nice when they can't tell which way you fled.

Anyway was a pleasure dealing with you.

I'm afraid I just didn't see what those others saw. I will tell you what I did see though: someone who not only should not have been promoted, but who should have been tossed out, long ago. You, and one or two others who are particularly egregious in this regard, were absolutely pathetic. You ran away from me whenever you saw me for the first 4/5ths of your life. I would step into an area, you would then step in, and a nanosecond later you'd be gone.

I have logs of me raiding, alone, and you not even trying to defend.

I have logs of hours - real time hours - going by with me being the ONLY villager logged on, and you not even trying once to retrieve. Hours. Not a single attempt. Against me alone.

You would only fight me in gangs, or, finally, after you'd built up your axe by ganging people and killing much easier people, and getting all of the various barrier/shield/aura/stoneskin/whatever preps. And that's ####.

Joining a cabal is just about the most important and deep-set committment possible in the world of thera. It's a lifetime committment. It's so powerful and important you can't even revoke it on your own, you need a leader or god to extricate you, and it's a huge, huge thing. You have tied yourself to that group and it is supposed to have enormous meaning for you.

Yet you did nothing. Not even a 'for show' attempt.

Sure, you want to play a cowardly character, who only fights the way you did? That's fine. More power to you. But the cabal shouldn't tolerate it. You should have been tossed out after that happened the first few times. But instead you were promoted and promoted and promoted. The single most sacred and holy thing in the whole world, the codex, was sitting there waiting for you to take it back and you did not even try. Once. For hours and hours, on several occasions.

I suppose the real problem there was leader and imm lack of proper behavior, as soon as your total failure to do what you should have - by at least trying, even once, to take back the codex, even if it's just one swing against the giant and then fleeing and teleporting or whatever - but even so, you the player should have done what your role demanded. And whether you like it or not once you become a member of the cabal your character has that obligation. (Let's not play games by raising the sphere deception traitor from the start game.)

If there were several villagers waiting for you, or some other reason you were totally assured of dying and failing by trying to retrieve, then sure, nobody is saying you committ suicide as a citizen of the empire.

But we're talking about hour after hour of real time going by where I am the only villager - not just the only one in hero range, the only one at all - and you just never come by to even try. Not once.

That, plus all the times you wouldn't fight, just make me have zero respect for you on this character. Especially considering that your class has the ability almost more than any other to totally negate bloodthirst and deathblow, with summon and dam resist potential. All of which you did once you'd heroed, got yourself a big axe, and loaded up on wands.

Not fighting ever before that was weak and pathetic.

No doubt some will respond either in agreement or disagreement. Keep in mind that we all know this game is supposed to be for fun and enjoyment, and most people don't like to die. But once you take on certain obligations in the game, you are required to accept the consequences. Nabburak, and a few others, constantly cheat (meaning break rp) and just ignore and avoid. It's really very similar to Kjelror, actually. Just that these guys are getting promoted.

Well. That's just my perspective gleamed from your frequently invalid misconceptions and unwarranted judgements that you accusingly throw about towards other characters on this forum alone.

Nabburak was cautious at times. And I'm sure fighting dangerous giant villagers made him doubly cautious. I don't know the particulars of his interactions with you, but I will say, when the Empire wasn't particularly strong, he showed, regardless. Many times it was him, alone, or maybe just a younger Imperial or two. He'd bide his time, and strike when he felt comfortable. But he stayed, the numbers of the opposition didn't greatly effect how long he logged in for. He stuck with it through some hard times. Was he overly cautious? I don't think so, from what I saw. He routinely waded into odds that weren't in his favor, and this was before he achieved his incredibly powerful axe.

Khas

It's what Scarabaeus used to call the "Hey, look over here!" argument intended to draw attention away from the point.

Staying online is not the question. Anyone can stay online and avoid everyone infinitely, that's one of the results of the huge growth in areas and distances.

The question is what he does with the time, and time and again when it was just me and just him, he wouldn't even try. At all. Not once.

No way a cabal accepts that. You don't want to accept it, that's fine, but it's no less true. Joining a cabal and making it the single most important thing in your life (which is how it is, other than for a communer and empowerment I suppose) has consequences. Some are good: cabal powers, people you can trust, cabal channel, more clear knowledge of who is and who is not an enemy, etcetera. But some are bad, and among those is the fact that you are supposed to place the cabal item as something important, very important. Something you should be actively working to keep or retrieve. Like I said, nobody is susggesting that he should come and fight five villagers. Three villagers. Heck, two villagers. But one? Only one? There is no excuse for not even trying. Hell, I was so far away sometimes he could have come and killed the giant before I got back. Unopposed. But he wouldn't even try.

There should have been cabal consequences. There weren't.

And I say again, it's a perfectly valid character role. If he doesn't want to committ himself to anyone or anything he is absolutely free not to. But he did. And failed miserably, at least as far as the times I was on. And to Grurk, there's nothing to dispute. I have the logs. I am delighted to send them to you. Hours and hours of real time you can scroll through and see.

Lastly, as to the fighting before the axe, again, not me. And yeah, I know a cloud giant villager is a tough fight. But he's a smart player. He knows how to counter most inherent villager bonuses. I know he knows because he's used those tactics with me more than once. But only once he was so well geared, so well prepped, and so buffed with the axe, that it was virtually impossible for him to die. That's weak. And I'm delighted to show you the logs of that, too. But I know you (and the others) have no desire to read them. I wouldn't want to either. But if you do, just let me know.

That an imm in charge of the cabal who has snoop just told you that you were wrong.

Empire is not Battle.

One hit on the giant? Heh, oh look, one bash, deathblow deathblow, partingblow deathblow.

I actually saw him go after the codex from the fortress solo against odds several times.

Go away, you weak ####ing troll, if you have a problem with the way Empire works and the way the imms run the show, take it up on their boards, not this guys deletion thread.

Taking your word (instead of reading your logs) that Nabburak ran from single combat with you, I still stand by everything I wrote above. To me, he showed much more courage and willingness to roll the dice than most players. Did he do so against you? Looks like no. Does that make him a worthless leader? I don't believe so. I had problems with Nabburak as a leader, but none of it had to do with his unwillingness to engage in combat.

Khas

Hey there V-bomb, I've just got to say that I'm a teensy bit annoyed by everything you've posted. Mainly, I'm annoyed at the mentality of ragers which basically goes like this: "If I can't find my opponent by actually scouring Thera for him, thus taking me too far away from the good ol' village, I can just hit their cabal guardian and they will HAVE to come no matter what!" And in all honesty that's exactly what is happening. You seem to forget that your powers are at your fingertips 24/7 when you have the Head, and anyone who fights you (especially casters) is already at a huge disadvantage because of spellbane. Add on top of that your giant resistance + rager resist, and it puts every melee class at a disadvantage. So what was Nabburak? He was an anti-paladin...a caster/melee hybrid who doesn't have the raw damage ability of a warrior until his axe is nice and buff, and whose spells (that's a big part of the class's ability) are virtually useless against you.

Considering all of that, I can't believe you would hold it against him when he didn't fight you during the period where you had anywhere from 1 to 9 ranks on him. What it boils down to is that you were looking for an easy kill, and you sure as #### didn't get one once he heroed and had (this is a keypoint here) reached his class's potential.

You don't seem to get the point, as others have failed as well. I'll say again.

He didn't try to defend, or take back the codex. Even when it was a straight up one on one.

I never went to his cabal *when I already had the codex* and expected him to defend and die.

But when I raided, alone, and he had the codex, he wouldn't show. And then it would be in the village for several real time hours and he wouldn't try to take it back, even though I was the only one in thera. That's wrong, from a cabal standpoint, plain and simple.

I don't know where you are getting all that other crap.

And as for your mistaken list of benefits, my giant resist was never in play, he always had defilement or something else (as most people do), which not only wasn't resisted, but was a vuln. And only when I have the head do I have any benefits. He, however, codex or not, has barrier, shield, aura, stoneskin, invoker shields, and everything else available to him. And the ability to bring a slew of mobs which make thirsting a potentially fatal liability instead of a benefit.

I say again, and hopefully for the last time: you take on cabal responsibilities with your membership, just as you take on benefits. When you fail in those responsibilities as he did, by not even trying to take back his item against only one defender, and a defender he can counter with the simple use of summon and a few preps (which he knows and has done), then you should not be promoted.

The other part of him not fighting me when we'd be in the same area or whatnot is just a personal disappointment, it has nothing to do with what cabal activites should or should not be going on.

I have tried to stay out of this and not post, however I feel now that I should.

You don't seem to get the point, as others have failed as well. I'll say again.

He didn't try to defend, or take back the codex. Even when it was a straight up one on one.

It appears everyone but YOU is not getting the point, at which point perhaps you should re-think what it being said. I watched him plenty of times and saw him do his own thing and solo raid, and solo defend and solo retrieve. I was not always his greatest fan at times, however he DID have guts and balls and was in the end one hell of a player. Just because YOU did not see it, does not mean he did not do these things. Give it a rest.

Go back and look at old Drucyrus post where he points out where he is right no matter what facts are presented to proove him otherwise. You sound just like this right now. In my opinion IF I played an ap there is no way in hell I would raid against a cloud rager. Unless of course I was fully prepped and he was sitting on the back of the giant. Then I may try good old hit and run. Otherwise it is stupid to make the attempt on someone with the Greeting legacy.

Uh yeah, except Vershelt doesn't have Greetings.

You don't even try, you shouldn't be in the cabal.

- You don't even try, you shouldn't be in the cabal.

In my opinion, he was an all around excellent Imperial. In fact, he could have done 100% of what you say, and I would still maintain he was an excellent Imperial.

Khas

>- You don't even try, you shouldn't be in the cabal.
>
>In my opinion, he was an all around excellent Imperial. In
>fact, he could have done 100% of what you say, and I would
>still maintain he was an excellent Imperial.
>
>Khas

Obviously Nabb had the RP going and knew where and when to
partake in PK. Sounds like to me, from what I have read in
the help files for Empire, EXACTLY how to RP a Imperial.
A quote with important bits in caps for highlighting:

"Much time is spent in SECLUSION, researching their magic, and combining it with their deadlyweaponry. The Black Sect understands that the true power of the Empire will come through a combination of both steel and magic, and will USE the OTHER Sects to gain their power within the Empire."

Wasteful death is more along the lines of Battle where the
entire Cabal is geared towards PK. He was playing the cautious
powerbase building evil rat bastard of the Black Sect from ALL
I can gather from the posts here. Your rant is futile you will
be assimilated. The fact that you hate him means he did play his
role well. Even your posts about him NOT wantonly throwing away
his life supports his role.

Take a look at the responses, this character entertained the
Imms to the point of them saying goodbye and telling you,
Vershelt, to shut it. I am not sure why you would not cease
and desist. You got your point across, just let it blow
off.

Personally I would rather interact with a well RPed character
that made a cabal great than one loud mouth PK machine that
carries that attitude on the forums. Fun is what the game is
supposed to be about, maybe it would not have been IC or OOC
fun to deal with you? Think it about.

Obviously you're one tough mofo. But man, in this case your perception was dead off wrong.

The only one I see talking like that is Vershelt, so I'm getting a tinsy bit annoyed at you generalizing everything.

As somebody with the snoop command, who spent a great deal of time
watching Nabburak, I do not share your conclusions.


G.

First of all I want to mention one thing.
Unlike dwarven maran hth warriors, fire APs are not characters
I would like to die often. The death is very costly for them.
I can lose my gear, preps AND my axe as I tend not to dump my gear
at hidden places when I charge into bad odds.
And when I play a such class I would rather overestimate my enemies.
Being cocky is the shortest way to die.
I would zap myself with barrier wands every time I fight bunnies,
and I'm not going to gamble with my life in "who makes last hit?" fights.

You ran away from me whenever you saw me for the first 4/5ths of your
life. I would step into an area, you would then step in, and
a nanosecond later you'd be gone.

And what is wrong with it?
When an uprepared AP sees a cloud berserker coming to him he has 3 options:
1) Teleport or walk away
2) Prepare and fight the rager. Not always possible as preparation requires time.
3) Stay in place unprepared and let the rager one-round him.

When I don't seek the fight and have other things to do,
when I don't have wands or don't want to spend them on pointless figths
I chooose (1). Sometimes I choose (2). And I, personally, never choose (3).


I have logs of me raiding, alone, and you not even trying to defend.
I have logs of hours - real time hours - going by with me
being the ONLY villager logged on, and you not even trying
once to retrieve. Hours. Not a single attempt. Against me
alone.

"Against you alone" often means against you and a maran gang squad.
When marans or outlanders had an air major or a helpful villager
who will call them I can't really hang aroud the Village
as they will arrive quickly. Happened many times.
Moreover, it happened many times even when there were no villagers
to defend against me.
After all, even a solo berserker is a pain to reraid against.
I can't just hit the massive giant being dirted while you feed
me with deathblows from the flank. And it is not exactly easy
to flee from outer guardians. You eat a lot of parting blows
( and deathblow works often on them ) inbetween bashes.
However, I've executed hit & run tactic avoiding fighting you
inside the village more than once. And I enjoyed the following
dumbtalks with you after that.

When you "raid alone" it often means that marans just raided
and kicked my arse or they just stand outside the Palace.
Of course, there were times when I didn't defend against a solo raider,
but usually I had a good excuse . For example, I'm far and fighting
a tough mob ( thus have no hp/mana ) or I'm out of preps.


You would only fight me in gangs, or, finally, after you'd
built up your axe by ganging people and killing much easier
people, and getting all of the various
barrier/shield/aura/stoneskin/whatever preps. And that's
####.

Small remark. Ganging and killing easy people is not the best way
to build a big axe. Often you don't get last hit or get no charge.
Actually, you have donated more to my axe than anyone else.
I've got 18 charges for my axe from you.

Also, don't exaggerate the power of my axe.
Even if I have, let us say 100 charges axe, it gives me around +50 damroll.
You can get as much by using poncho, berserk, bloothirst and a primary
weapon with good pluses. That does not make you invincible,
nor my axe makes me invincible.
I was hitting with regular *** DEVASTATES *** at the top and had
500 additional hps, that is good, but that is not godly.
Well dressed berserker inflicts a lot more of melee damage.


Yet you did nothing. Not even a 'for show' attempt.

I have personal habit againt 'for show' attempts.
I consider them as a cheap way to get "points".
I, personally, have more respect for players who don't show
against hopeless odds than those who show just to recall at first hit.
When I come to defend, I defend for real, not for 'show'.
If I'm unable to add anything to the defense, I don't come at all.


Sure, you want to play a cowardly character, who only fights
the way you did? That's fine. More power to you. But the
cabal shouldn't tolerate it. You should have been tossed out
after that happened the first few times. But instead you were
promoted and promoted and promoted.

You know, they can't toss me out when I'm the best they had at the times

But we're talking about hour after hour of real time going by
where I am the only villager - not just the only one in hero
range, the only one at all - and you just never come by to
even try. Not once.

Incorrect.

That, plus all the times you wouldn't fight, just make me have
zero respect for you on this character. Especially
considering that your class has the ability almost more than
any other to totally negate bloodthirst and deathblow, with
summon and dam resist potential. All of which you did once
you'd heroed, got yourself a big axe, and loaded up on wands.
Not fighting ever before that was weak and pathetic.

I understand your desire to fight a 42 level AP without wands and an axe
with your 51 level cloud berserker. But, in return, you should understand
my desire to avoid such fights until I heroed, got wands and at least
first control ( as physical damage against cloud villages isn't very good )
And when I got there, I didn't see you often in my playing hours,
nor you were exactly reraidful when I was around.

Staying online is not the question. Anyone can stay online and avoid everyone infinitely, that's one of the results of the huge growth in areas and distances.

Anyone can stay online but you will be surprised that only a few actually do.
Of course, when you stay online but don't come into enemy's hideout
every 15 minuts and die there you might look like a coward.
And when you are not logged, you don't have such problems.
I wasn't one of Courage, so it didn't bother me.

Lastly, as to the fighting before the axe, again, not me. And yeah, I know a cloud giant villager is a tough fight. But he's a smart player. He knows how to counter most inherent villager bonuses. I know he knows because he's used those tactics with me more than once. But only once he was so well geared, so well prepped, and so buffed with the axe, that it was virtually impossible for him to die. That's weak.

Another remark. I'm always well geared unless I'm fresh killed.
And even when I have good gear, preps, big axe and emperor's powers
it still requires some efforts to bring down a rager berserker.
Anti-paladins are limited to their melee abilities when fighting
berserkers, and it is not easy to outgun ragers when you have no dodge
nor anything like flurry or pincer.

A lone villager is not alone. He has myriad Outlanders, Maran, and sometimes even SCIONS to assist him in defense. Sometimes they're at his beck and call, sometimes they're there on their own accord. Either way it's not 1 on 1, or even 1 on 2 (the second party being the buff ass massive giant situated in a norecall spot).

Someone in a post above mentioned not hijacking your graveyard thread and that's probably right so this will be my final post on this, no need to take up more space.


>
>I have logs of me raiding, alone, and you not even trying
>to defend.
>I have logs of hours - real time hours - going by with me
>being the ONLY villager logged on, and you not even trying
>once to retrieve. Hours. Not a single attempt. Against me
>alone.
>
>"Against you alone" often means against you and a maran gang
>squad.
>When marans or outlanders had an air major or a helpful
>villager
>who will call them I can't really hang aroud the Village
>as they will arrive quickly. Happened many times.
>Moreover, it happened many times even when there were no
>villagers
>to defend against me.
>After all, even a solo berserker is a pain to reraid against.
>I can't just hit the massive giant being dirted while you
>feed
>me with deathblows from the flank. And it is not exactly easy
>to flee from outer guardians. You eat a lot of parting blows
> and deathblow works often on them ) inbetween bashes.
>However, I've executed hit & run tactic avoiding fighting you
>inside the village more than once. And I enjoyed the
>following
>dumbtalks with you after that.

Actually it does mean alone. I obviously can't speak about times when I wasn't there and there were no villagers, but when I was there, and defending, nobody else interfered, or would without getting hit by me. Defending the outer and spilling into the ruins happens all the time, and while I won't say never (though I think never, but I don't want someone to show a log of the one time it happened and thus be able to just say it happened all the time and I'm lying) it very rarely happened that anyone other than me and the enemy fought. Marans and outlanders and scions don't come to defend when I'm there, and able to fight the enemy. They only get invited (obviously not scions) when there is an enemy that nobody in the village can fight. And if I haven't invited them, and they come, they get a fight. Ask Reggie or Cyth, and they'll tell you. But you never tried it with me so how would you know? That's what's disturbing.

>
>When you "raid alone" it often means that marans just raided
>and kicked my arse or they just stand outside the Palace.
>Of course, there were times when I didn't defend against a
>solo raider,
>but usually I had a good excuse . For example, I'm far and
>fighting
>a tough mob ( thus have no hp/mana ) or I'm out of preps.
>

Sometimes, but not often, no. Sometimes there weren't any online, or few. Sometimes I'd take it and they would all log off, leaving just you and I, and, as I said, you'd not show up to try to take it back. That's weak and a cabal shouldn't tolerate it.

>
>You would only fight me in gangs, or, finally, after you'd
>built up your axe by ganging people and killing much easier
>people, and getting all of the various
>barrier/shield/aura/stoneskin/whatever preps. And that's
>####.
>
>Small remark. Ganging and killing easy people is not the best
>way
>to build a big axe. Often you don't get last hit or get no
>charge.
>Actually, you have donated more to my axe than anyone else.
>I've got 18 charges for my axe from you.
>

Except you did it for long enough that you would get the charges over time. And it worked. And those charges came after you'd already geared up, gathered 74 preps, axed up, etc, as I said. Which is fine, you should, but all that time before? Weak. And from a cabal standpoint, should be unacceptable, let alone promote-worthy.

>Also, don't exaggerate the power of my axe.
>Even if I have, let us say 100 charges axe, it gives me around
>+50 damroll.
>You can get as much by using poncho, berserk, bloothirst and a
>primary
>weapon with good pluses. That does not make you invincible,
>nor my axe makes me invincible.
>I was hitting with regular *** DEVASTATES *** at the top and
>had
>500 additional hps, that is good, but that is not godly.
>Well dressed berserker inflicts a lot more of melee damage.
>

Uh, no. Not a fair comparison at all. Your axe comes with zero drawbacks, is always "on", and is inherently available. Trophy destroys corpses more often than it makes them, so it's not often to have one (and I kill plenty, it's not for lack of corpses), bloodthirst is generally going to kill me fighting you as you always summon orumous, ghaelek and ten other mobs to fight. And without bloodthirst, I'm a non-hasted warrior fighting a bloodlusthasted (I know it doesn't help your defense, but it sure helps your offense) guy who is getting hit for lower case damage and whose every other spell or so goes through. Not what you were thinking, is it. And with that extra 500 hp you get, and with deathblows doing MANGLE or less, it's not likely I'm going to take that 1500 hps away from you now is it.

>
>Yet you did nothing. Not even a 'for show' attempt.
>
>I have personal habit againt 'for show' attempts.
>I consider them as a cheap way to get "points".
>I, personally, have more respect for players who don't show
>against hopeless odds than those who show just to recall at
>first hit.
>When I come to defend, I defend for real, not for 'show'.
>If I'm unable to add anything to the defense, I don't come at
>all.
>

That's silly. Points? You are thinking like a player. The character would (should if following the role of someone who joined a cabal) be wanting more than anything to get it back. You try. If you fail, sure, you wait. But not to try at all? You're rationalizing. And nobody said to recall at the first hit.

>
>Sure, you want to play a cowardly character, who only
>fights
>the way you did? That's fine. More power to you. But the
>cabal shouldn't tolerate it. You should have been tossed out
>after that happened the first few times. But instead you
>were
>promoted and promoted and promoted.
>
>You know, they can't toss me out when I'm the best they had at
>the times
>

That's certainly possible, but it's a reason to have none, not to promote the unworthy.

>But we're talking about hour after hour of real time going
>by
>where I am the only villager - not just the only one in hero
>range, the only one at all - and you just never come by to
>even try. Not once.
>
>Incorrect.
>

Sorry, but it is correct. If the imms say it's ok, I'll post a log or two and you can scroll through it. Nothing much happens, other than time going by, but it has the who pk lists showing you and me and that's it and you never coming. I'm sorry you don't remember, but that's how it was.

>That, plus all the times you wouldn't fight, just make me
>have
>zero respect for you on this character. Especially
>considering that your class has the ability almost more than
>any other to totally negate bloodthirst and deathblow, with
>summon and dam resist potential. All of which you did once
>you'd heroed, got yourself a big axe, and loaded up on wands.
>Not fighting ever before that was weak and pathetic.
>
>I understand your desire to fight a 42 level AP without wands
>and an axe
>with your 51 level cloud berserker. But, in return, you should
>understand
>my desire to avoid such fights until I heroed, got wands and
>at least
>first control ( as physical damage against cloud villages
>isn't very good )
>And when I got there, I didn't see you often in my playing
>hours,
>nor you were exactly reraidful when I was around.
>

Who said anything about levels? It was always, until the end when you had everything I described above and before.

>Staying online is not the question. Anyone can stay online
>and avoid everyone infinitely, that's one of the results of
>the huge growth in areas and distances.
>
>Anyone can stay online but you will be surprised that only a
>few actually do.
>Of course, when you stay online but don't come into enemy's
>hideout
>every 15 minuts and die there you might look like a coward.
>And when you are not logged, you don't have such problems.
>I wasn't one of Courage, so it didn't bother me.
>

Again, nobody said to come by and die every 15 minutes. I'll say it again: come and try. Make a real attempt. If you can't do it, fine. But not at all? Weak.

>Lastly, as to the fighting before the axe, again, not me.
>And yeah, I know a cloud giant villager is a tough fight. But
>he's a smart player. He knows how to counter most inherent
>villager bonuses. I know he knows because he's used those
>tactics with me more than once. But only once he was so well
>geared, so well prepped, and so buffed with the axe, that it
>was virtually impossible for him to die. That's weak.
>
>Another remark. I'm always well geared unless I'm fresh
>killed.
>And even when I have good gear, preps, big axe and emperor's
>powers
>it still requires some efforts to bring down a rager
>berserker.
>Anti-paladins are limited to their melee abilities when
>fighting
>berserkers, and it is not easy to outgun ragers when you have
>no dodge
>nor anything like flurry or pincer.
>

Except you can out dam-redux me, and out-damage me, and make it lethal for me to use the one (the only!) battle enhancing thing I can, bloodthirst. Your class especially.

Anyway, like I said, it's two things, one a cabal thing which is that you should have been tossed, not promoted, for the lack of even attempting. The other was never fighting until you had built yourself up enormously. Two different points. The former is really a thing the imms mistaked I suppose. The latter is your decision and that's fine, but to me at least it doesn't make for someone who deserves the acolades. And that has nothing to do with the character Vershelt.

If you show up on this forum to repeatedly proclaim your own greatness and claim everyone else couldn't hold a candle to you, you may wish to question your own objectivity. Either you're the most fearsome player ever to play CF, or you're giving yourself way too much credit.

valguarnera@carrionfields.com

You, like a few others, are either being obtuse or deliberately choosing to miss the point.

I never claimed, and I don't now, that I was anything particularly special. I also said that I know the race/class/cabal combo makes my character a tough one regardless of the player.

My point, yet again, is that it doesn't matter who or what Vershelt is. When he is alone, the only member of a cabal that holds your item, you should at least try to get it back.

The point as to him never fighting me before he had all the uber stuff I mentioned earlier is equally true, but different.

So let's stop with the pointed attempts at twisting words to make snide comments, shall we please?

You are the only person on this forum that has come to this conclusion. You are going against hours and hours of snooping which gives the full story by more then one immortal. You are going against a large number of players who disagree with you who played with/fought Nabb. You are, at this time just making yourself look foolish and stupid. No one is backing your play, you have 4 or 5 immortals plus a plethera of players all calling you wrong, yet you persist. That is the point.

You need to stop posting, step away, and evaluate what is written in these posts in a more objective way, because right now, you are looking foolish, destroying you IC personality as well, and all in all, making the situation worse and worse for you.

Vershelt, as a berserker villager you have no right to complain about any fact that you are not getting a one on one fight. Berserkers were created by the immortals to be ganged, and to be more powerful then one individual to promote ganging of them. You are complaining about a single individual who cannot fight you without aura/barrier/shield because the percentage chance of them dying at the giant is 90% while yours is about 5%. I severely doubt you went and got the codex by yourself against Nabb, because there are a few logs showing him killing you and another battlerager doing just that. Also understand he is only powerful because he has to prep and go fight difficult mobs to get barrier/aura/shield which he uses up. You have your powers all the time, and therefore you can sit on eastern road or run around Galadon at infinity and be fully powered and prepped. Do a little exercise for me, from 8 pm to 5 am, you cannot use powers, and you will get a good understanding of what it feels like. That at any time you can be ambushed without your powers.

You need to step away from your position as a berserker battlerager that understand you are at the very high end of power and that the only thing that has more raw power is maybe a lich with full compliment and a bunch of phylacteries. You should be giving flowers and candy to the people willing to fight you one on one and expect the rest of the time to get ganged.

This rant of yours is so off base and is so wrong on so many levels I can't even begin to approach it besides above. As your own immortal says, get off your high horse. You made the most common and tried and true power combo in the game and you speak like you are a weak combo. There is a reason people don't come and fight you one on one, because rolling the dice and having a 1 in 10 chance of surviving is not good odds. Protections/preps are required to fight you and they are limited. See that log on Dio's where one overtly tired berserker battlerager thirsts and makes all kinds of stupid mistakes but Deathblow picks up all the slack and he ends up killing two people through sanctuary.

He should not be promoted so much when he disregards the codex.

One thing Nabburak does not understand, You dont get a big axe
from playing cautiously, okay, so you never die, but you dont get that many kills.

50dam when you can now get multiple charges. Palan and Tikar had much more than that in a time you got 1 charge per kill. They
achieved this by fighting a large percent of the time, not just when it was safe. Not sure on the specifics of Tikar, but Palan did it without full wands and with no cabal powers.

If you played more aggressively you had the potential to either lose your axe (ok that sucks) but if you managed not to die, you would have 5 times more respect, an axe 3 times larger and people would refer to you ooc years later. Man this is worth risking losing your axe.

>He should not be promoted so much when he disregards the
>codex.
>
>One thing Nabburak does not understand, You dont get a big
>axe
>from playing cautiously, okay, so you never die, but you dont
>get that many kills.
>

Actually you can. Especially if you go after less than cautious aps with big axes.

>50dam when you can now get multiple charges.

You can get multiple charges even when you have no charges.

>Palan and Tikar
>had much more than that in a time you got 1 charge per kill.

How? They existed before multiple charges, did they not?

>They
>achieved this by fighting a large percent of the time, not
>just when it was safe.

They were also able to rack up charges by killing newbs repeatedly. And if I recall, didn't Palan have Yagar to save his weapon once or twice, without even considering the use of hold person to help him kill.

> Not sure on the specifics of Tikar,
>but Palan did it without full wands and with no cabal powers.
>
>If you played more aggressively you had the potential to
>either lose your axe (ok that sucks) but if you managed not to
>die, you would have 5 times more respect, an axe 3 times
>larger and people would refer to you ooc years later. Man
>this is worth risking losing your axe.


Guess only I see him defending alone against groups of 7 as taking a risk.

>
>

A perma AP and buddy combo with two skilled players shouldn't even have any relevance in this thread. Cheaters dont get battlefield listings, why should we be even discussing Palan?

Excellent AP wish i could have killed you. Overall nice interaction tho your only response to my questions was join the empire!.

WOW!! I've had some tough fights but you went right through me and like 3-4 other fortress people with no trouble on regular basis. Wish we could have had more talks but you never responded when I tried to interact with you. Anyhow it was fun fighting you. Always had me watchin my back when you were around. Mak must be something to get them to anathema you. Well done.