I liked playing Drahke, but I also found it frustrating. In that aspect it is
nice to let him go. I hated the giant speech, I just wanted to try make a
proper fire giant for once. I think I managed well enough with the speech, but
I think he was too orderly and nice. I certainly don't think he came off as
a 'raging behemoth'.

I think I passed fire warrior 101 somewhere along those 389 hours, but
I sure have a long way to go before I pass general PK. I kept making
stupid mistakes, not thinking ahead, just charging in before preparing
(switching weapons, and so on). But I must say, I find the PK aspects
of this wonderful game so well balanced. It is like a great web, each
class/race combo has advantages over each other - in certain
situations. I love it. Looking back at my fights there was always something
I could have done differently, which may have changed the outcome.

I guess I was hooked on PK, but I very much like the RP aspects of the
game. People like Aesrira, Kaerdil, Brombalin are just so much
fun. Drahke was rather bland, another frustrating aspect. I just
couldn't come up with anything better for a fire giant.

The outlander cabal is just awesome. All the small things add up so
nicely. I loved it. It took a long time getting in though I think it was a
combination of blandness on my part and skewed playing hours. Drahke got to
45 and 120+ hours before getting inducted.

The skewed playing hours also made some sessions incredibly boring. I
tried to explore a bit, but didn't get that far. The high level areas
require groups to navigate. I was very happy with my specs and legacies.
They suited a loner just fine.

Originally I planned to delete far earlier, mostly because I was too
poor at PK to have much fun from that aspect and I felt severly
inhibited and frustrated by Drahke's role. The lack of traveling
companions in the cabal didn't help either.

I remember logging in to delete, then both Tjok and Aesrira was on and
the latter was made leader. That in itself made for an interesting
session. Also, suddenly mages started applying to the cabal so I
decided to hang in a little longer to see if I could get mage support
later on.

Then suddenly I got a tattoo and a few days later a spiffy title.
I liked that, so I played some more.

But now it is time to move on.

A big thank you to the immortals for making such a well designed and
well balanced game and for the other players for making it fun.

I will post some farewells later on. Have fun all.

I thought Drahke was great! I also think you're being a bit hard on yourself. I thought Drahke's speech and manorisms fairly screamed fire giant. You had a presense, very much like a raging behemoth to me. True, you might have been a little too nice, but I saw it as a tribe thing.

As far as the PK, I'm hardly one to judge, but I will say this, I loved how you threw yourself into the fray. You always seemed willing to take a chance and were never too worried about your set. Personally, I've come to like players like that. They seem to be the most fun to be around.

Anyway, great character, good luck on the next!

Always knew some Raiding was going to be going on when I saw you about heh. Guess I'll just have to do it myself now. =P

>Always knew some Raiding was going to be going on when I saw
>you about heh. Guess I'll just have to do it myself now. =P

Heh, yeah. You were always willing to throw a few prayers my way, something which Drahke didn't mind at all. Once we had a quiet moment, I intended to give Oa some tough moral questions, just to show that Drahke was not a nice person and that helping him had consequences a good person might be concerned about. Unfortunately, there never seemed to be a quiet moment. Good luck with the sun path.

Pelgor. Thanks for all the eq-runs. The few times we went out after
other players were scary. Lag and fire power. Ouch.

Joselito. You were always up for making trouble. Back in those days I
had no backup in the cabal, so it was really cool to see you
around. You were a good bard. Thanks for all the help/fun.

Akscereh. Super cool. I remember grouping with you in emerald at level
18. Akscereh tells the group 'Those that will allow me to bring
beauty to others through the use of violence.. those of offense'. At
the time I thought 'What's the matter. Is _everybody_ Eshval followers
these days'. But you pulled it off very well. I liked the little sculpting
session we had after you got your final forms and I still sucked at
level 39. After that we just fought a few times, but you certainly had
presence. Stay cool.

Desmonn. Very slick. I lost a lot of inventory to you. Nice axes,
scales of justice. Each time I raided the spire I tried to look over
my shoulder. The only time I was remotely close to touching you was
when Reggie got you out of hiding on high road while I was fighting
the tribunal captain. Unfortunately I was looking for Nievar, so I
fled and tried to pincer him instead of you and you got away. That had
me kicking myself.

Makh, new dreadlord. Congratulations. I was looking forward to
fighting you. Too bad it didn't happen. You were always kicking your
range around.

Otzo. Thanks for the help. When I saw you on the who list the first
time I was 'Yes! Finally a bloody healer!' Then I realized you were an
Innis follower, so that sort of dampened my expectations. But you were
forthcoming enough. 'As long as you walk in the sun and cherish the
joy of being alive, the imperials can never really win' or whatever crap you
fed Drahke

Tiny bear (svirf warrior outlander applicant). Keep trucking man. I
hope you get inducted soon.

I enjoyed running around with you. I thought Drahke was a well played character, though I agree he seemed a bit too nice for a fire giant. I both loved and hated your speech. Half the time it was like trying to decipher a riddle .

Thanks man, I was really looking forward to ranking up, getting inducted and laying down the smacketh with you. Would have been good fun.

I know exactly how you feel about charging into battles then dying and realising that you had preps that likely would have changed the outcome. I even got to the point of having post its around my monitor with big writing of the preps I had in my inventory so that I wouldn't forget, but you know what? I still did.

If you can hack losing lots of gear then I seriously recommend that you dont change your way of playing. Charging into battles full force as fast as you can can be a really fun way to play. Either way. Keep on rollin!

Fun guy to watch. Thumbs up.

Well there goes another one I never got the possibility to get to know better. I hate my play times. You were a legend inside the cabal, people talked about you when you wasn't online and I was looking so much forward to meeting you.

We actually grouped a couple of times in our youth but we never got the tachticks right... I just tried to stay away after I actually got you killed instead of saving you in the elemental temple early on. If its any comfort I gave the thief a thorough asswhop ... I just didn't want you to get another bad experience with me, so you would give up the outlander search at that point.

Somehow our play hours changed later in life so we never got to experience eachother as we grea and after you got inducted. My work securely made that happen Well maby we will be able to play together in another incarnation, either of just you or bouth of us.

Keep trucking you had an aura of confidednce about you and when you were online people suddently got more courage

Good luck with you next!

Viv

>We actually grouped a couple of times in our youth but we
>never got the tachticks right... I just tried to stay away
>after I actually got you killed instead of saving you in the
>elemental temple early on. If its any comfort I gave the thief
>a thorough asswhop ...

Heh, that death was entirely my own fault. I should just have left, instead of letting you lead. Note to self. Do the right thing, then explain afterwards. At least when playing an evil character

>I just didn't want you to get
>another bad experience with me, so you would give up the
>outlander search at that point.

I was determined to get in outlander this time, though I got to admit that I was tempted to delete many, many times before getting inducted out of pure frustration. That was not your fault however. I enjoyed our trips. You were pleasant to be around and a druid is a good companion at those levels.

>Somehow our play hours changed later in life so we never got
>to experience eachother as we grea and after you got inducted.

Yes, a great shame. That's just how it goes. Have fun relaxing with CF when other stuff lets you.

When I made Drahke I decided to not have him fight dwarves/duergars
per se. On an individual basis, sure, but not in general. It fitted
his background, but it made for some awkward situations, since I still
tried to heed the outlander degree not to associate with them.

Case in point: Dralkoz. A super cool character, we were mid level at
the same time. I think around level 25-30. And Dralkoz was pretty
forthcoming, but I felt tied up and had trouble expressing my views in
a coherent manner. It made for a lot of stupid interactions up through
the ranks. Once I actually got inducted, it was easier.

On the other hand, it made it possible to ally with ragers
later on which was super useful.

A big thank you to battle for all the time you have sent people to the
tree to fight.

Some cool battle ragers:

Jurt: We took some levels together, and I enjoyed it.
Alathin: I am big Scrimbul fan. Keep trucking man.
Iborenn. Very classy. Arrogant, cool. Way to go, man.
Gerylanst. Super cool. Congratulations on commander. Thanks for all
the help. 'None of the that magic mumbo jumbo' around you.

Have fun breaking mages.

I liked what I've seen of Drahke with other characters of mine, as well as Iborenn
Hopefully I'll see more of you!

You were my faveorite Outlander. Most others just drove me bat #### crazy.

It was fun to waltz into town with you and trash Tribunal when I was wanted, you needed the Fetish back and I needed to kill an elf transmuter here and there. I even think we landed a few kills together on some Tribunal that are particularly hard to nail when they are in their Imperial/Tribunal mind meld raid/gang mode.

He admired your courage as a warrior and as such didn't mind singing to you at all before you ran into town even if I had a myraid of reasons on occasion why I couldn't help you raid. And I daresay you learned to appreciate some of my songs pretty fast when it came to bards or physical weaponry.

>You were my faveorite Outlander. Most others just drove me
>bat #### crazy.

Yeah, you complained about my lunatic cabal mates a few times and said
you would have to kill them if they kept bothering Dralkoz. That was
fine with Drahke. He held the opinion that the members of tribe needed
to settle their problems on their own.

>And I daresay you learned to appreciate some of my songs
>pretty fast when it came to bards or physical weaponry.

A bard companion is just awesome for a warrior. I never had a healer
group mate with Drahke (apart from one 1 hour xp session), which in
some situations would have been better, but I think bard is just the
best all round support. You get damage reduction, lag, utility,
maladictions, healing and some offense in the same package.

Add in rager resistance and I didn't even had to worry about you going
down fast or something. Those town trips you mentioned were very
cool. I also enjoyed the times we grouped for xp.

I remember always feeling better if we didnt have fetish
and I saw Drahke log on.. it was fun adventuring with you..
I never minded tagging along to give you shields..

anyway liked your rp and your char...



see you in the fields..

>I remember always feeling better if we didnt have fetish
>and I saw Drahke log on.. it was fun adventuring with you..
>I never minded tagging along to give you shields..

Glad you have fun. Even though you didn't have 6 shields, it was a great boost to travel with you. Our defense against Tasild, Boroboa, Macumba and Iufrasa was great fun. As you said invokers are great for defending against raids.

TRIBUNALS.

I think the tribunals are well designed and well suited for protecting
the cities. However, it is completely unfun to raid or retrieve from
the spire. This is not the tribunals fault. I guess this aspect of
being an outlander just sucks I have already argued on the
gameplay board for the outlanders to retain the subvert power without
the fetish.

Apart from fighting I never interacted with tribunals. Drahke was not
set up for philosophical discussions and I didn't want to taunt with
Drahke, so I seldom initiated talks. What the tribunals said
to Drahke was usually either not suited for further discussion or just
totally lame. Some tribunals I remember:

Onirakoth. Stay cool.
Brombalin. What I saw of you was super cool. Players like you make the
game fun.
Tolchec. I hear you got vindicator. Nice job.
Melacarfina. You sure improved a lot. A bard is very dangerous for a
fire warrior, so I had to be careful around you.
Calorwyn. We had some good fights in Galadon in January. Well, I had a
lot of fun anyway.
Hammond. Cool character.


MARAN.
It was much more fun fighting you guys. Thanks for all the good
times. I have already said goodbye to most of you.

Ginharq. I didn't like your laid back speech, but I sure liked our
fights. Good fun!
Heas. Don't give in. Keep trucking!
Kristin. I would have liked to have found you alone, but then it
wasn't high on my to do list. Have fun.

Ya don't like it? Anyway Drahke was lots of fun to fight too. Everytime 'where' and there he is in the canal or high road and then..gone. You were pretty much a beast as well..could still manage to deal some good damage even when I was prepped. Good fun for sure, well played.

You had balls. You pretty much always came for the fetish, no matter how many of us there were to defend and no matter how hopeless it was for you to get it back. I liked fighting you and thought you did a great job from all angles. Just so you know, there are only two characters that have even come close to killing me solo and you were one of them, that says something for you, grats. You are definately a presense that will be missed in Outlander.

-O-

>You had balls. You pretty much always came for the fetish,
>no matter how many of us there were to defend and no matter
>how hopeless it was for you to get it back.

I would come if I thought I had a chance. I never was suicidal or just
tried to take some down with me. Of course, sometimes my judgement
would be rather bad...I have made a lot of stupid mistakes. But I was
certainly willing to take a chance. Case in point: You, Skolgrar and
Ceikalak was out looking for me. I found Skollgrar waiting alone in
the frigid wastes, him yelling like he was attacked by Jumnarl or
something. I perceived this as a trap, since he was in sanctuary I
knew you would be reasonably close. I still attacked in the hope I
could kill him before you arrived. He was convulsing and you and Ceika
arrived and onerounded me. I didn't regret that. It was a calculated
risk. Something I could have done better in that fight would have been
to drive him off the trail, since that would have made it harder for
you to find him.

>I liked fighting
>you and thought you did a great job from all angles. Just so
>you know, there are only two characters that have even come
>close to killing me solo and you were one of them, that says
>something for you, grats.

Thanks, Healers are tough, but have low damage output. Give a smart healer two nasty mobs and extra dodging and you get something that needs a lot of luck, crafty engineering of circumstances, or a gang to take down.

I hope the Nightreaver offers you some fun. A summoner would have been so cool to group with.

Tough character, solid RP, fun fights!

FAI, I haven't given up... just bogged down with work right now.

Bland RP? Bleh, I liked that time when you said to me something along the lines of, feathered man smart, drahke not fight in town or something. Although I haven't seen many tribunals abuse that part of criminals I thought I almost had you there. Anyway, I liked fighting against you, it was either a enlarge or reduce, depending on if I felt lucky or not. =P

well played, keep trucking with warriors, you will catch pk sooner or later.

-tolchec

>Bland RP? Bleh, I liked that time when you said to me
>something along the lines of, feathered man smart, drahke not
>fight in town or something. Although I haven't seen many
>tribunals abuse that part of criminals I thought I almost had
>you there.

Yes, you utilized the terrain nicely there. Good job.

>well played, keep trucking with warriors, you will catch pk
>sooner or later.

Thanks. I think I got the fire warrior down, though race/specs play very differently. The thing I missed most with Drahke was a semi-reliable way of blinding foes.

However, the beauty of PK really comes into play when setting up situations. I have a long way to go here. Case in point: We had been fighting a bit in Galadon, you try taunting a bit, I then tell you I am going to the imperial lands. I see Kcejjdi fighting some centurions. Now here I should just take a breather and think about what is likely to happen.

Asfas knows Kcejjdi is fighting centurions, so he will soon show up. Since you appeared to call on him earlier, he might call on you as well. This would be a good time to wait a bit and see what happens. Perhaps call on an ally.

Instead I just lamely attack Kcejjdi because he is an enemy and die to you and Asfas at the centurions moments later.

The best: Your guts, your fighting ability, your consistency.

The worst: Some of your allies. That's a reflection on them, not you.

More on the best: I think you were the only char to beat me when the odds were on my side. There was one of the outlander vokers around (Reggie maybe?) but you basically took me out alone. I remember dying to you that one time when I tried to slow you whilst I was already badly hurt, and seeing "Drahke returns to normal speed"... game over. After that I resolved to use dispel magic on you to open fights, but I never really played much from that point so never got to try the tactic of prep attrition. The crap I located on you together with the preps you used to fight me made me figure you were Astillian. Still don't know if that's right since I haven't had time to read your whole thread yet. Nevertheless, you didn't use prep knowledge to do anything more than to let yourself take on tougher dds, that I saw. You still set yourself challenges instead of perma-prepping and ganking.

More on the worst: That time that outlanders outnumbered tribs by 2 to 1 (was 8 v 4) but wouldn't retrieve, then you logged on and ended up attempting a retrieval on your own (result a one-sided ganking by the tribs) was just pathetic. Only two outlanders were wanted, and the way individuals matched up left a pretty easy fight for the outlanders. I know there were three that could fight me, and two of them couldn't be harmed by any other tribs. I couldn't believe that you were left to raid alone. That was one of the things that made me start to question the worth of cabals, if people that lacked the guts to attempt the almost impossible to fail could remain in a cabal, whilst allowing the likes of you to make the attempt alone... I don't know. Maybe you never told them you were going to try to retrieve.

As I said, I liked Hammond and I think it was a great shame that you
lost the fun. You were clever, showed lots of initiative, left the
cities, came to retrieve which all made for good fun. I really looked
forward to fighting you on a regular basis when you reached 51. I
think we only got two fights, such a shame.

You pulled some great tricks on me. That time with the nasty scroll
really surprised me.

>The best: Your guts, your fighting ability, your
>consistency.

Thank you for the kind words. When I felt like playing and had the
time I would log on. Of course, sometimes I would just wish I hadn't
after actually seeing the range In those cases I would perhaps
stay an hour whereas I might have played for two had I been on top.

I never was suicidal, though I did have my share of bad judgement
calls leading to stupid deaths. I think attitude goes a long way. I was a bit frustrated with
lack of iniative/guts with some of my fellow outlanders, but most of
the time it would be no problem since I was the only one on, anyway


> The crap I located on you together with the
>preps you used to fight me made me figure you were Astillian.

I only know Astillian from his Dioxide forum presence, but I'll take
it as a compliment all the same.

I didn't have the wand legacy, it didn't fit Drahke, though I certainly
would like to try a warrior with it. The wands I carried were cash, or
something to give to a mage to help me out. Slow wands were great for
getting eq. It meant that basically any level 30 mage could help me
get nice stuff.

>Still don't know if that's right since I haven't had time to
>read your whole thread yet. Nevertheless, you didn't use prep
>knowledge to do anything more than to let yourself take on
>tougher dds, that I saw. You still set yourself challenges
>instead of perma-prepping and ganking.

Per se, I have nothing against ganging as a player, nor did Drahke. He
believed in winning by any means possible. Thus he would never made
any lame comments about other being cowards for fighting in numbers or
what have you. That being said, I think it is much more fun to fight
one-on-one. You can see what is going on (as an aside sometimes I was
involved in some group-vs-group fights and all of them sucked
immensly. Too much spam, making it very easy to miss important stuff,
and much luck involved in who gets opening strike and possibly one
rounds one of the other party.) And you can have some nice drawn out
hit and strike fights.

As for preps. I always tried to have basic preps: Fly (I only needed
this when retrieving, but on the other hand hard to get being
outlander), enlarge, teleport, detect invis, protection. In my
experience this is all you need for the vast majority of your figths
as a warrior. We are talking one on one here.

I looked for stone skin and haste. If I had time I could reliably get
stone skin. With some luck I could get haste (easy to get, but that
made it likely that others already had taken it). Usually I would save
these for defenses. If I had haste, I might use it in a difficult
fight, though. Or as a nasty surprise in a long drawn out fight. The
fight against you in the spire you posted on Dioxide for instance. The
idea was to soften you up with impale, use hit and run tactics without
being too tough, so you would stick around and then lay the smack on.

>that you were left to raid alone. That was one of the things
>that made me start to question the worth of cabals, if people
>that lacked the guts to attempt the almost impossible to fail
>could remain in a cabal, whilst allowing the likes of you to
>make the attempt alone... I don't know. Maybe you never told
>them you were going to try to retrieve.

I don't remember the incident, but as a general comment I will offer
the following. Coordinating big groups (big is more than 3) of
possibly non-grouped people is difficult. Add in giant-speech, the
inability to name opponents and I just didn't bother with Drahke. As a
player I felt really frustated and wanted to shout: You do this, you
do that, now we go. I would always tell what I was doing, though,
giving others the opportunity to chime in and offer suggestions so I
could just say yes or no.

That being said, I did find _some_ outlanders extremely timid. Since
Drahke did not believe in courage, I couldn't chide them for being
cowards, and since Drahke could not induct, I could not throw them
from the tree for being useless. So I just did what I could on my own.

Good luck with your uncaballed next.

Lyristeon: Thank you for the tattoo. I was a little mystified when I
got it. Drahke never followed you, nor did I intend him to do so. But
of course he didn't mind such a nice gift. I guess it was my warcry
which gave you the impression. I thought of the maw as the great
devourer, which I mentioned in his role, another name for death or
entropy. I intended Drahke as an equalizer, but I just sucked too much
to pull it off.

Whoever gave me the spiffy title. Thanks a lot. When I found the venom
outlander thing, it made me really happy. It gave me an RP angle I
could develop. Drahke followed his venom spirit kin. I intended to
come and pray a few times, but I wanted some proper gifts. When I did
find some, I usually managed to kill myself moments after. Too bad.

Dark ancient. Yeah, I suck. In my happy dreams I would be outgunned,
but never outclassed. In reality I was outclassed most of the time.
Against stupidity, even the gods fight in vain.

Reggie. You know what you are doing, definitely. I remember when we
talked when you were applying and you wanted to be a hunter. I guess
you have pulled that off. I think you could put some more effort into
RP however. A lot of the talk was very number crunchy. On the other
hand, I believe in coordinating a group and actually discussing
tactics before a raid, even if I never did anything like that with
Drahke, and you do just that admirably.

Parantl. I liked the big tiny one. Have fun.

Sivakar. Heh, I still chuckle to myself when I think of you. I don't
know how you ended up with permanent insanity, but it made interacting
with you...special. Hope you find a cure...don't let the greed take
you down

Cari. Very cool, I really liked your desert tribe background. Much
better than Krystia. Also, I think you pulled off a goodie outlander
very nicely. I don't agree with your reasons for the retarded giant
speech however. You deserved sun warden. Believe me, you don't get
leader just for being around.

Aerik. I loved your notes and handling of applicants. Keep
trucking. Too bad I never got around to giving some of Drahke's
blood. I inteded to do that when you got to 51.

Aesrira. I said it all in your goodbye thread, but just for good
measure: I loved Aesri.

Write and I will respond. I am no good with names

But I do want to say that I really liked Drahke and I quite honestly loved when you would log on because I knew you would be up for a fight. Great Job.

Reggie

PS I remember when you got the tattoo.

>But I do want to say that I really liked Drahke and I quite
>honestly loved when you would log on because I knew you would
>be up for a fight. Great Job.

Likewise. Apart from raids, Reggie was one of the few outlanders that I actively looked for other players with. We had a few good fights with imperials. Good fun. It was a great shame our playing times didn't mesh better. I would have loved to have you on during my usual hours, but that is the problem with an international game - location does matter.

I hope you stick around (all that work getting powerful) and have fun.

That is part of the gaping maw attitude. Do the unexpected. You did a good job from everything I saw and yes, I noticed most of the time I saw you you were alone. The numbers picked up for awhile there, but you were never really the benefactor of it.

Giant speech can wear on you just as any other type of speech change while rping. It is one of the harder things to do for an extended period of time.

Good luck on the next one.

Ack! You knew I was Krystia too? Well, I liked all our interactions, regardless. Krystia, Norkie, and Cari all had fun with you. I think of the three, Norkie had the most time to spend with you. It was crazy raiding the Spire and Palace with your about. It almost seemed like who was the more pig-headed arrogant fool. "Norkie!" "Drahke!" "Norkie!" Those were some of the best times when you and he would log on together and go smash everything we saw. Cari had that one interesting conversation with you just before she joined Outlanders about learning to hunt at night and teaching the ways of the Great Spirit and the sun. I always loved "Drahke hear." I took that as a "Yeah, I get it. So... what are you telling me for?" LOL. Great character.

From an ooc perspective I liked Drahke. I thought he was very well roleplayed when speaking to him. There were a couple of times I tried to get a few arguments up between the good and evil and it either flew by or was ignored. Quite a few times I picked up some really neat gear that made me think...Drahke would love this...only to give it to Gorgontar or some other neutral just because I couldn't do it from the rp angle. Good luck with the next.

>From an ooc perspective I liked Drahke. I thought he was
>very well roleplayed when speaking to him.
Thanks.

>There were a
>couple of times I tried to get a few arguments up between the
>good and evil and it either flew by or was ignored.

Drahke was not much for discussion, besides Drahke didn't see himself as evil. He just thought that some of the other outlanders were a bit slow, or just plain strange. That being said, I think some of the goodies were surprisingly forthcoming in helping Drahke. Drahke never helped anyone if he didn't get immediate payoff. The only exception was Aesrira.

>Quite a
>few times I picked up some really neat gear that made me
>think...Drahke would love this...only to give it to Gorgontar
>or some other neutral just because I couldn't do it from the
>rp angle.

Way to go. Outlander and tribunals have great potential for infighting, fear and loathing Glad to hear you are helping out there.

I think you have a very powerful combination. Inherent damage reduction and summon make some tough fights against tribunals so much easier. Stick it out and have fun.

You're welcome for the title. I think you are selling yourself short in saying you didn't come off as a "Raging Behemoth"... you displayed a great deal of tenacity and always put forth a fierce effort even when things weren't going your way. Big thumbs up from me.

t