Random note:,
Valguarnera,
04-Feb-05 04:50 PM, #76
I just posted something on the other forums...,
Nightwiggler (Guest),
04-Feb-05 06:10 PM, #78
Oh just rub it in you jerk...,
dwimmerling,
05-Feb-05 01:15 AM, #79
Never thought of that! but you sure are right.,
Bajula,
05-Feb-05 10:04 AM, #83
Not disagreeing with you,
Kardok (Guest),
07-Feb-05 03:05 PM, #85
RE: Not disagreeing with you,
Aiekooso,
07-Feb-05 07:30 PM, #86
Hmm, yep.,
Nightgauntish (Guest),
07-Feb-05 07:44 PM, #87
RE: Hmm, yep.,
Aiekooso,
08-Feb-05 04:52 PM, #88
Well..,
Lariya (Guest),
04-Feb-05 07:01 AM, #72
RE: Well..,
Sgralnaoc (Guest),
04-Feb-05 02:12 PM, #73
I think we...,
Big_Strong (Guest),
04-Feb-05 02:49 PM, #74
Well I'm damn glad your gone,
Iborenn (Guest),
04-Feb-05 03:08 PM, #75
The only interection I ever had with Lariya...,
Nightwiggler (Guest),
04-Feb-05 06:04 PM, #77
RE: Well..,
Rom (Guest),
05-Feb-05 02:41 AM, #80
It was a pleasure.,
Urog. (Guest),
05-Feb-05 03:33 AM, #81
RE: Well..,
Jirash (Guest),
05-Feb-05 07:38 AM, #82
RE: Well..,
Goronik (Guest),
05-Feb-05 02:02 PM, #84
RE: (AUTO) [FORTRESS] Lariya the Ironhearted Bane of th...,
Blobqirt. (Guest),
01-Feb-05 09:15 PM, #51
Someone parrying her attacks when she was prepped.,
Log Request (Guest),
01-Feb-05 03:24 PM, #44
Just curious, but why does...,
Thief,
01-Feb-05 10:34 AM, #33
I'd say draw your own conclusions as the imms aren't go...,
Randomposter (Guest),
01-Feb-05 12:14 PM, #37
The Staff defend those who deserve it,
var gal (Guest),
01-Feb-05 02:25 PM, #42
thank you!,
shokai,
01-Feb-05 04:08 PM, #46
I'll add:,
Valguarnera,
01-Feb-05 05:20 PM, #47
I tend to agree.,
EskelianUnreg (Guest),
01-Feb-05 06:05 PM, #48
To clarify...,
EskelianUnreg (Guest),
01-Feb-05 06:09 PM, #49
RE: I tend to agree.,
Gunderg (Guest),
01-Feb-05 09:36 PM, #52
Sometimes I think I'm the only one who gets the Imm's s...,
var gal (Guest),
01-Feb-05 07:07 PM, #50
Public executions are all the rage! Dontcha know?,
Pro-man (Guest),
02-Feb-05 11:08 AM, #53
Honestly:,
Balrahd. (Guest),
02-Feb-05 12:57 PM, #54
RE: Honestly:,
Valguarnera,
02-Feb-05 01:21 PM, #55
Accept when...,
(NOT Pro),
02-Feb-05 08:38 PM, #60
Yeah yeah. except. i know. n/t,
Pro-man. (Guest),
02-Feb-05 08:44 PM, #61
And what's more.,
Pro-man (Guest),
02-Feb-05 08:58 PM, #62
RE: And what's more.,
Rom (Guest),
02-Feb-05 09:54 PM, #63
I was thinking SMUG was someone else.,
Pro-Man (Guest),
03-Feb-05 12:26 PM, #68
I didn't make my point clearly it seems.,
(NOT Pro),
02-Feb-05 08:31 PM, #58
Regarding "colour" and "honour",
Daurwin (Guest),
02-Feb-05 05:16 PM, #56
RE: Regarding,
Rom (Guest),
02-Feb-05 05:38 PM, #57
The Correct?,
(NOT Pro),
02-Feb-05 08:34 PM, #59
RE: The Correct?,
Rom (Guest),
02-Feb-05 10:28 PM, #64
That's bad spelling,
incognito,
03-Feb-05 06:56 AM, #66
Grhm. Yo shold say... nt,
DurNominator,
03-Feb-05 07:24 AM, #67
RE: The Correct.,
Mr. Diction (Guest),
02-Feb-05 10:30 PM, #65
Yep, Guilty!,
Vynmylak,
03-Feb-05 08:41 PM, #69
Its good to see you're still around.,
Der-exal (Guest),
03-Feb-05 09:40 PM, #70
Nice post, but...,
Koe (Guest),
04-Feb-05 04:27 AM, #71
Lariya log,
Old necro (Guest),
01-Feb-05 12:41 AM, #32
A Great Log,
Dupayne (Guest),
31-Jan-05 08:55 PM, #25
Request: RP logs,
Crummy rper (Guest),
31-Jan-05 01:53 PM, #8
Misinformation. n/t,
Grurk Muouk,
31-Jan-05 01:55 PM, #9
Asking for logs...,
Enbuergo1 (Guest),
31-Jan-05 02:20 PM, #10
He said that Lariya had like 4 virtues...,
var gal (Guest),
31-Jan-05 02:44 PM, #12
Lariya did have three or four virtues.,
Enbuergo1 (Guest),
31-Jan-05 02:51 PM, #13
???,
shokai,
31-Jan-05 04:49 PM, #16
Why are you getting defensive?,
Enbuergo1 (Guest),
31-Jan-05 05:13 PM, #17
I don't think he's so much defensive as annoyed at the ...,
Vladamir,
31-Jan-05 06:05 PM, #20
My request was to see logs.,
Enbuergo1 (Guest),
31-Jan-05 07:51 PM, #22
Firstly, I didn't put any words in your mouth.,
Vladamir,
31-Jan-05 09:40 PM, #27
Show me where I used the word 'demand'~,
Enbuergo1 (Guest),
31-Jan-05 10:25 PM, #28
A less inflamitory title than I originally wrote...,
Vladamir,
31-Jan-05 11:01 PM, #29
I think the problem is that there is an implied "undese...,
Theerkla,
01-Feb-05 11:16 AM, #35
If I sound overly aggressive,
Enbuergo,
01-Feb-05 01:14 PM, #41
Nuh uh buddy boy...,
Vladamir,
01-Feb-05 03:23 PM, #43
well..,
shokai,
31-Jan-05 08:03 PM, #23
RE: Why are you getting defensive?,
nepenthe,
31-Jan-05 09:15 PM, #26
My original response was to the 'misinfo' flag.,
Enbuergo1 (Guest),
31-Jan-05 11:34 PM, #30
The question itself had misinfo in it. nt,
Vladamir,
31-Jan-05 11:41 PM, #31
You realize nothing you can say is going to actually ch...,
Vladamir,
31-Jan-05 06:15 PM, #19
RE: You realize nothing you can say is going to actuall...,
shokai,
31-Jan-05 08:19 PM, #24
RE: You realize nothing you can say is going to actuall...,
Vladamir,
31-Jan-05 09:49 PM, #34
RE: You realize nothing you can say is going to actuall...,
Evil Genius (Anonymous),
01-Feb-05 12:37 PM, #38
This is why I hate Lichs.,
Random guy (Guest),
01-Feb-05 11:17 AM, #36
I like when we have the occasional unstopable Bad-Azz.,
Pro-Man (Guest),
01-Feb-05 12:50 PM, #39
Seconded. nt,
Nivek1,
01-Feb-05 01:07 PM, #40
Just some problems here...,
Vladamir,
01-Feb-05 03:30 PM, #45
Well, not really....,
Pendragon (Guest),
10-Feb-05 03:05 PM, #89
Perhaps you could be less vague with your post Grurk?,
DurNominator,
31-Jan-05 02:40 PM, #11
Well for one thing she didn't have four virtues. nt,
Vladamir,
31-Jan-05 05:44 PM, #18
I'm pretty sure..,
Grurk Muouk,
31-Jan-05 03:30 PM, #14
I'll stick with him on that one and go as far as to say...,
Drag0nSt0rm,
31-Jan-05 04:10 PM, #15
Who cares? Just drop the whole thing, it doesn't matter...,
Eskelian,
31-Jan-05 06:40 PM, #21
RE: (AUTO) [FORTRESS] Lariya the Ironhearted Bane of th...,
thornheart,
31-Jan-05 10:10 AM, #7
Woo! The Demon elf is gone!,
Iborenn (Guest),
31-Jan-05 09:58 AM, #6
I stand in awe.,
Bajula,
30-Jan-05 10:23 PM, #5
Scarier than hell,
kas,
30-Jan-05 01:18 AM, #3
What it was like fighting Lariya.,
Mek (Guest),
29-Jan-05 09:34 PM, #2
What it was like fighting Lariya,
Rom (Guest),
30-Jan-05 03:16 AM, #4
A legend has fallen nt,
CF fan (Guest),
29-Jan-05 09:30 PM, #1
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#34906, "I just posted something on the other forums..."
In response to Reply #76
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Saying how I feel cf is very balanced now, which I like. I never felt like a pushover with the elf warrior I just played.
That said, Lariya between Virtues and area knowledge etc is hardly a good example of that.
Not hating on you, but any class, played to its fullest potential is going to kick some ass. Give Nep in his prime (or now probably) a healer and he is probably going to get more pks than I will with any char.
Your *general* elf two hander is not going to inspire such debates.
All that being said, I love the fact that cf is damned balanced now. There are very few chars, past 25 or so, that anyone can just generally assume are pushovers now.
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#34995, "Not disagreeing with you"
In response to Reply #76
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I can see why people would naturally assume Lariya to be overpowered. Her tactics and strategies were very similar to other paladins I fought with Kardok, she just hit so much harder than anything I saw other than her. When I looked at her and saw that she wasn't that well equiped and was hitting me for 3 MASSACRES on a strike of faith through protect, shield, stone skin, and invoker shields, in my head I go through the possible ways that she could be accomplishing this. 1- Extreme High damroll through eq, which she didn't have 2- Leader Weapon (most probably) 3- Some paladin skill or supplication I don't know about -Fairly probably, as I don't know too much about paladins, except for that no other I ever fought against has hit me nearly as hard. 4- Some quest skill or supplication just for her that I don't know about -This is the one that most people assume, but either way, she recieved something special that allowed her to hit so hard.
I am by no means saying Lariya lacked in talent at all, I am just going through what was in my head as I was getting hit so hard. I should point out that this is not through bitterness, as neither of us killed the other one, if anything, I came out on top of her by raiding and taking the Scepter when she was defending (Though I ran back to the ruined city to heal five times) With Kardok preparred, I could usually handle any groups of two or three, but Lariya whooped me alone, and only because she hit so hard on her strike of faith, which to my recollection (This was a year ago) was all that she ever did to me. I am not one to call anyone overpowered, I am just explaining how a reasonable person could come to such a conclusion when viewing Lariya.
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Aiekooso | Mon 07-Feb-05 07:30 PM |
Member since 18th Dec 2003
305 posts
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#35005, "RE: Not disagreeing with you"
In response to Reply #85
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There was a reason Lariya hit so hard. Without going into too much detail, I'll say it had very little to do with the virtues and cabal powers.
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#35006, "Hmm, yep."
In response to Reply #86
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If the imm_char flag is set to true it hurts.
Hrm, or the eq?
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Aiekooso | Tue 08-Feb-05 04:52 PM |
Member since 18th Dec 2003
305 posts
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#35044, "RE: Hmm, yep."
In response to Reply #87
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A certain piece of eq helped a bit.
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#34888, "Well.."
In response to Reply #0
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It was inevitable I guess. RL reared it's ugly head and I just didn't have time to play it out. I wish I could have age-died, but after a few logins just to keep her alive I decided just to give it up, and if she goes, she goes.
I interacted with a ton of people, and I'll make some attempt to remember them here. If I forget you, it's been awhile, but I'll try to peek back here to respond. If I fought you, talked to you, got killed by you, raided with you, you made this game fun for me. The imms get a lot of credit, but the players deserve just as much. We wouldn't have the game without the imms, but the game wouldn't be as fun without the players. You guys both deserve a lot of credit. One more thing, I'm not getting involve in any flame or pissing matches. I'm ignoring that mess below, and anything else of that nature.
Fort:
Vorondel: You were the best. You were fun to talk to, and we sure put up some monster defenses in our time. We'd be outnumbered, and still manage to come out alive and dent them pretty good. It just seemed like we made a good team. We'd make a plan, and stick to it perfectly. Though that time I killed you was by far my most moronic moment. I still can't believe I did that.
Calisha: You were awesome. I had two favorite Calisha moments. The first...we were walking through Balator, and a mace/axe spec minotaur jumps you. Now according to all that popular lore, they should have whaled on you. You kicked their ass in hard, and I didn't help you at all except for maybe a heal near the end when the kill had been sealed. The second was when we made our plot to try to spy and weed out the Talia people. You eavesdropping on me talking to Llauriele was fun. Too bad that didn't really go anywhere, woulda been fun to find a way to expose the Talia thing.
Jirash: You were a hearty bastard. I felt bad for you though, I always made my worst mistakes around you, and ended up getting you killed. The worst was when we charged the palace, I didn't sanc any of us, we both get jacked and raped. Not a shining moment.
Illademn: You weren't Fort, but you should have been. We ranked up together, fought together until you finally bit it. You were a good ally, but having to defend with you was irritating since you couldn't go inside to help.
Remorhez and Jdenskyn: That time we ended up killing ourselves in Corte was classic. The interactions that ensued were among my favorite with Lari. You guys were great.
Enemies:
Goronik: My favorite, by far. We fought all the time, and the conversations were great. Lari had a lot of respect for you on all ends. It was one of those, "If we weren't enemies, we'd probably be good friends" situations.
Yanacek: You had presence. You'd show up and the whole Fort would be buzzing, trying to find out where you were. We only fought a few times, mostly because I tried to avoid you where you'd be the strongest, and I think you tried to avoid me where I'd be the strongest. It would've been interesting on either one I think though. I don't think anyone instilled as much fear as you.
Ghuljun: Ow. You were interesting. The whole no zombie thing was a neat twist, and you sure didn't need them. One slight tip...don't worry about eyes so much and try to blind. I'm an elf, sap my pathetic strength.
Severacen: (Not sure I spelled that right) You...were crafty. I was pretty confident against your forms, but you'd always try the things nobody else did. Zap me with a wand, try to word me as I fought the inners. Your retrieval technique was insanely irritating, but very effective. We couldn't go very far, because you'd get it back. All we had to do was show up and you'd bolt. But it definitely kept us in check. We had a few fun talks too.
Khalizad: Ow. You hit hard, and I always had insanely good luck around you with my escapes, it was uncanny.
Varik: (Not sure I got that right) You were kind of like Goronik in a way, always up for a fight, and always stuck it out to the end. You wouldn't fully pull out until you were battered and spent.
Urog: We had a lot of fun talks. Lari kinda was hoping she'd be able to turn you, but I figured that would never happen. I hated fighting thieves though. They were always so all or nothing. They could either seriously screw me, or they weren't much. You saw that when you killed me that one time.
Szordrin: You've posted that kill a lot now, but I will say this. Sometimes you lose a fight and think, "That was dumb, if only I'd..." That time I lost and I thought, "Wow...that guy just plain nailed me. I had zero room there, and he just got me good" That was smooth, damn smooth.
I'm sure I'm missing a ton of people. I have some logs laying around somewhere I might post. It was fun though.
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#34894, "RE: Well.."
In response to Reply #72
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You scared me when I saw you fight, yet you were always willing to try to help out with something or other. Sorry RL had to get in the way, hope you come back and enjoy your next, and make as much of an impact.
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#34895, "I think we..."
In response to Reply #72
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Heroed together, or we did within a day or so of eachother. It was fun saddling up and raiding other places, or running mock invasions at the fort. I enjoyed everything we got to do together, and yeah, you were a beast . No denying that. Thank god you were a beast that big strong could look up to and try to be like, instead of one that I had to rethink strategies for. Anyway, it was good going and good knowing, good luck with your next if you ever find the time to come back to us.
Jaedren
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#34896, "Well I'm damn glad your gone"
In response to Reply #72
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No more, #### that damn elf is on. I am happy to no longer worry about being two rounded by eating four ***DEM's to mangles through resist in the first round then three ***DEV's from your Strikeoffaith I have no idea about your RP you seemed to have a honor thingy going cause you'd leave me the hell alone when everyone else was doing a fine job of kicking me around Props on the char, even if you did drop madly sick damage. Hopefully you'll be on my side next time, *Please?*
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#34905, "The only interection I ever had with Lariya..."
In response to Reply #72
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Was with my one attempt at a paladin, elf that never made it past 20 or so, I took a wrong turn and ended up in Thar Acacia, and Lariya was one (this is while you were fort leader AFAIK) and you came and sanctified and worded me.
I thought it was very cool of you, anyways.
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#34915, "RE: Well.."
In response to Reply #72
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Thought you could have possibly worded instead of fleeing that first time, since I had no way of cursing you. Would have liked to nail you with Etarekoth but our playing times didn't seem to mesh so well, plus you were hard to stalk for an extended amount of time (yay for virtues!). The only way I thought of doing it would be to pin you down while someone else was raiding, thereby forcing you to defend and give me the stalk time I needed. Not sure if you remember, but I got that opportunity once with Kwalin raiding with a/b/s, I had 8 stalks, 100% assassinate and was wielding iron, sitting 1 room south of the Watcher spamming assassinate and got a partial miss when you fled into that room, thats just how it goes. Anyway, as I posted on the other forums, this whole thread reminds me of one of Valg's posts from ages ago where he says that some players have a hard time going up to the guy who just scored the winning goal from the other time after the game, shaking his hand and saying 'Good game'. Well,
Good game, Rom.
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#34916, "It was a pleasure."
In response to Reply #72
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Running into someone of your calibre roleplay and PKing ability was truly a fun experience. I'd always look forward to our encounters (usually in places where I could hide if need be), and you've always kept me on my toes not just in battle but in speech. If I was a better roleplayer and you were perhaps drunk, I'd have married you a la Istendil as I'd have liked, but that would have just led to a rough honeymoon.
Aside from Urog's encounters, I've known you with two other characters and have seen nothing but stellar ability from you. I've seen you rise from the ashes after a tough defeat and jump right back into the mix, usually getting the job done. I've seen you naked and frustrated after leading you to a cold, dark place and watched you act just as paladin-ly as elvenly possible.
All in all, players like you are a true asset to Carrion Fields, so try not to let the selfishness of your real life interfere with the good of the MUD, alright?
Best of luck,
-Urog
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#34917, "RE: Well.."
In response to Reply #72
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Yeah... about that time. I had a nagging feeling we had
forgotten something, but couldn't pin down what :P
Was fun to fight alongside you the few times we got an
opportunity to even if it sometimes felt like I could just as
well have sat back and watched the show with some popcorn
while you were slicing up baddies.
Good char, you lasted a lot longer than I first thought when I
saw that [42 Elf Pal] Lariya coming into my PK range for the
first time.
Good luck in the fields, hopefully we'll run into each other
again sometime.
Jirash
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#34921, "RE: Well.."
In response to Reply #72
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I can't believe you went on so long after I died. *chuckles* I had a great time talking and fighting with you too, even if the only times I got close to killing you were when you were linkdead or when a Herald spammed cease. And yes, you had a virtue that stacked the deck against me... but so did other paladins, and they weren't as much trouble as you. I've played two short-lived characters since then, but mostly life has been going on instead. You were strong and intelligent, for a blind fool anyway. *winks*
Send me an email if you like, my email address is tralish@yahoo.com and if you don't, I hope everything in RL smoothes out and goes great for you.
Be well.
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#34818, "RE: (AUTO) [FORTRESS] Lariya the Ironhearted Bane of th..."
In response to Reply #0
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I really liked Lariya when I was playing Golron. You were really great to have around. If I ever had something I was a little unsure of, or just wanted a sounding board, I knew you would help me out.
It's a shame that such a great character auto'd, but considering you gave up Marshall because of lack of time (or so I heard) then this probably isn't too big a surprise. But I can say it would have been nice if you age died, or maybe con died.
All up I really liked Lariya, and hope you make another great character like her. Luck with whatever you do.
Blobqirt
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#34805, "Someone parrying her attacks when she was prepped."
In response to Reply #0
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Seemed off the charts powerful.
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Thief | Tue 01-Feb-05 10:34 AM |
Member since 05th Dec 2004
75 posts
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#34785, "Just curious, but why does..."
In response to Reply #0
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Lariya have all these immortal defenders right off the bat? Could Lariya the player possibly post something? This is the first time I have seen immortals get into such a tizzy to protect a mortal character. Just wondering if we can hear from the actual player.
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#34790, "I'd say draw your own conclusions as the imms aren't go..."
In response to Reply #33
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I know what I believe and believed before she deleted Good player, Great Rp, -AMAZING- Explore knowledge.
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#34801, "The Staff defend those who deserve it"
In response to Reply #33
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I have seen many cases where the Immortals will defend a mortal from pointless flaming and speculation.
If I were a staff member, I too would be quick to put down rumour and #### simply because the character was very well played.
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shokai | Tue 01-Feb-05 04:08 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
519 posts
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#34807, "thank you!"
In response to Reply #42
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I'm going to sort of blanket address this entire thread here, but before I did, I wanted to thank you for actually seeing what was going on and not leaping at shadows.
This thread has become horrifically messy, and the sad thing is...it's indicitive of why we imms pull out our hair and players roll thier eyes and leave. I've been meaning to address this for some time now and, Lariya forgive me, this thread is just too perfect a segue to let it pass.
This thread worked something like this:
Poster - Can I see logs of why Lariya got 4 virtues? Imm response - Misinformation in the above post. Poster 2 - He's asking for logs. What are you hiding? Poster 3 - He's not hiding something, he's saying Lariya didn't have 4 virtues Poster 2 - Lariya had 'heaps of imm given stuff' Imm response - Uhm, no she didn't, are you trying to start something? Poster 2 - Why are you getting defensive? Are you hiding something? Poster 5 - He's not hiding anything, just annoyed at the insinuation. Poster 2 - Uh-huh, then why won't haven't we seen logs? Imm response - Probably because I don't have logs?
I'm clipping out the rest of the battle royale that is ensuing, notice how this went from Poster 1 asking for logs to help him be a better roleplayer to a between the lines insinuation that there is something potentially shady going on. (We won't get into the side discussion of this that took place on Dio's...since that just made me sigh heavily and turn the pc off)...and here we get to the issue I really see with what's going on here. I posted a long time ago about agendas and what not...consider this a sort of follow up post, but instead of 'agendas' I'm going to call these 'grudges'. I'm not trying to single anyone out here, but I think we can all admit that things have not always been smooth sailing between imms and player base. The sad thing is, more and more it becomes a Roswell vs. the US Government situation. We can pour out proof of things running smoothly and legitmately (within reason) and everyone will say 'the imms are hiding stuff'. Admittedly, we could've nipped this partially in the bud by showing all the dirty details of someone being busted, etc etc etc. However, wisely, we chose against this...there's no need for people not involved to know Imm x was busted for doing y and z. It's sufficient (whether you think so or not) to say 'it's been done'. Over the years this type of closed door policy has lead to countless speculations...which seems odd since to me, it'd be a better game if people focused more on what was going on with their character and less with the political side of CF.
There are, and will always be, malcontents (on both sides of the coin) who want to see adversity around every corner. In real life these are the people who gave us the Salem Witch Trials, the Spanish Inquisition and McCarthyism. They're also the people who post constantly on the internet about government plots and conspiracies that may be true....but are amazing and bordering on the fantastic in thier scope. A lot of the accusations I've seen levelled against myself and other imms fall into the fantastic category. I could waste text and say 'stop doing it' but I'm a smarter guy than that. What I ask, is that the smarter CF players don't fall victim to this mindset, the current staff is not the staff of old (hell even the staff of old isn't the horrific nightmare of corruption and cheating it's made out to be...yes there were one or two who did some seriously boned up ####, but they were the exception, not the rule) and to carry these grudges that some people carry is taxing on all involved. Drop them, come to the game with less baggage.
One thing I'd also like to point out, regardless of who played a character, (I prefer not to know who plays any given character, but certain traits show up and I recognize them...damn me for being observant) none of the imms give out rewards or punishments based on who is playing that character. We play it character by character by character. I could give examples, but it'd be pointless to. I also think that any time you have a post where Vlad is standing up for the immortals...chances are pretty good anyone who is yelling 'conspiracy' is probably barking up the wrong tree. One other myth I'd like to quell, is that we don't sit around discussing who we're playing...in fact, we actually have a 'common sense' rule that says 'don't discuss your current mortal'. It's a safety net to avoid favortism, or the hint of favortism. So, regardless of who may have or may not have played character x, y, or z....I assure you, if they got a reward, they deserved it. (The first person to bring up any character from more than 7-8 years ago...I'm reserving the right to smack down as 'grudge posting')
I'm sure I've accomplished nothing, except given fodder to people who want it, but well...so be it. In my mind this post is supposed to be more helpful than hindering. We'll see how it works out.
"I like songs about drifters - books about the same. They both seem to make me feel a little less insane. Walked on off to another spot. I still haven't gotten anywhere that I want. Did I want love? Did I need to know? Why does it always feel like I'm caught in an undertow? - Modest Mouse
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#34812, "I tend to agree."
In response to Reply #46
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Its taxing and not worth getting into. I mean, surely you should realize if character X has something rarely handed out in terms of rewards, its usually hard to see the distinction from a mortal perspective.
We don't see roles, we don't see everything, we can't snoop, etc. So, our opinions aren't the most unbiased.
If that same character X happens to be an imm...well. I mean it doesn't take a mathematical genius to figure out why people would suspect something. Does it? I've seen excellent pk'ers who rp'd fantastically go unrewarded and thats just how the cookie crumbles sometimes. Not necessarily because "he wasn't an imm" but it does happen. I mean, I've also never seen this kind of turnout to defend any character, even Amora.
Well, the point being I guess that a lot of people feel that had Lariya been their character with the same RP, PK, etc, they probably wouldn't have been beaming over their rewards or been defended so fiercely on the forums by the imm staff.
I'd like to think that isn't the case. Either way there's no way we can tell as mortals other than faith and trust. To be honest I'd have been happier if I didn't know or hear about it and if no one talked about who plays who I'd like to think no one *WOULD* have known. What really turns a typical happy-go-lucky into a jaded conspiracy theorist is when they start to get the impression that working harder, RP'ing better, PK'ing better and etc aren't going to gain them in game rewards whereas others may recieve more for less. I can't say thats true or not, you guys would know better than me.
Just my 2 cents.
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#34813, "To clarify..."
In response to Reply #48
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By "it does happen" I mean it happens due to circumstances beyond everyone's control. Time constraints, doesn't get approved, Imm X is stingy with rewards, whatever.
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#34819, "RE: I tend to agree."
In response to Reply #48
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I mean, I've also never seen this kind of turnout to defend any character, even Amora.
That's because it wasn't Lariya being attacked, it was the immortals. Several posters seemed to be pretty clearly acusing the imms of wrong doing, not the character. No surprise imms posted in their defense.
Also, I don't remember Amora needing too much defense, weren't most of her posts props about how well she stuck it out?
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#34814, "Sometimes I think I'm the only one who gets the Imm's s..."
In response to Reply #46
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#34826, "Public executions are all the rage! Dontcha know?"
In response to Reply #46
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I miss the days of Biff Plankchest and his trademark gecho "Assclown".
Every nation on earth uses one form of public justice or another. It is important for the people to know their efforts for being good Samaritans (SP?) are being rewarded, and those who are not are being punished
For me ranking is a pay check. I need it to get to where I'm going. Since Vynmyak has left, I've not received a single positive Immortal comment, nor a small exp bonus as an attaboy for a good desc or role.
This may be deserving (Because my desc's and roles are undeserving) and I can hande it and I don't fee it's central to my primary enjoyment of the game. It does however know someone is watching and that I've done something good. Like cookies from mom.
In the absence of this however I must judge myself against those around me. So what do I see? "Yo whaddup"/Rick the ranger/Duergar spams me AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!./ Bad descriptions (As per description rules) on hero's./random Paladin Glances at you and says WOW Nice gear! You must have friends! Descriptions designed to tip off other players who it is behind the character. Words like Colour and Honour being consistently spoken by people who are consistently in a group.
I have an internal locus that lets me continue to make a decent attempt at obeying the game standards regardless of feedback, but I'm sorely tempted to write a ridiculous description and see if anyone even notices it or cares.
Okay that was cleansing.
To get back to my main point. I, and I think others, want to know that at the very least, people are being dealt with. A simple creative gecho would be the CF equivalent of a public execution that tells us the Imms aren't ignoring us, or their own standards.
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#34829, "Honestly:"
In response to Reply #53
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I don't think any of this:
>In the absence of this however I must judge myself against >those around me. So what do I see? "Yo whaddup"/Rick the >ranger/Duergar spams me AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!./ Bad >descriptions (As per description rules) on hero's./random >Paladin Glances at you and says WOW Nice gear! You must have >friends! Descriptions designed to tip off other players who it >is behind the character. Words like Colour and Honour being >consistently spoken by people who are consistently in a >group. >
Is worthy of a "Public Execution". As it stands, the IMMs quietly pull people with these traits (e.g. bad descriptions) aside, and talk them through the importance of having a good description and how to change it to conform with the "environment." I like it that way.
I'm glad that the IMMs don't share your attitude that people with bad descriptions should be publicly humiliated because they're ESL or whatever.
>I have an internal locus that lets me continue to make a >decent attempt at obeying the game standards regardless of >feedback, but I'm sorely tempted to write a ridiculous >description and see if anyone even notices it or cares. >
I think they'd notice. But don't do this. I can say from experience that description-enabling is sometimes an arduous task - it took me an hour sometimes to talk some guy through a description. Fight your temptation.
>To get back to my main point. I, and I think others, want to >know that at the very least, people are being dealt with. A >simple creative gecho would be the CF equivalent of a public >execution that tells us the Imms aren't ignoring us, or their >own standards. >
Again, the "infractions" you're listing don't merit a "public execution."
Moreover, I think you're misrepresenting the majority of the CF playerbase. The majority of the people I see have decent enough descriptions and decent enough RP.
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#34841, "Accept when..."
In response to Reply #55
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I give you my honour!
Honour you say? It seems we have a kinship.
Then a long silence followed by Ungroup Me. Group character.
Followed by more silence.
I've got nothing with people spelling it that way, but that just pissed me off so I'm sensitive to it now.
It felt quasi-perma. SMUGish.
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#34842, "Yeah yeah. except. i know. n/t"
In response to Reply #60
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#34843, "And what's more."
In response to Reply #55
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I am aware the have similar playing times.
I am aware they will meet more often and thus have alliances more often.
I am not besmirching anyones country.
I just don't like seeing those elements getting away with something I'm not allowed to. And I think a version of SMUG is still going strong out there somewhere.
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#34844, "RE: And what's more."
In response to Reply #62
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<i> And I think a version of SMUG is still going strong out there somewhere. </i>
Actually, there really isn't. The aussies that still play end up fighting eachother more than not, simply because we like to play characters that oppose eachother. It would be much much easier for me to just roll something with my buddies over in the US who love playing Team-Scion, than to try and convince blobby or highly_ev to actually play an evil for once, pansies Not to mention Babloomeh (the other aussie from melb) recently deleted a hero rager warrior. The characters we like to play simply do not mix as allies. But whatever, keep throwing your conspiracy theories around, if I'm ever looking to perma I will be hitting up my American compadres
Rom.
P.S: You like Orcs right? Hit me up on AIM wink wink thinking of rolling an Orc
P.P.S: I'm just kidding. The above point is meant to illustrate that geography doesn't really mean jack when forming permas etc.
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#34862, "I was thinking SMUG was someone else."
In response to Reply #63
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Not Aussies more along the lines of DIKU.
But I'll drop it, some good points have been made.
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#34839, "I didn't make my point clearly it seems."
In response to Reply #54
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Public executions wasn't for bad Descriptions and such.
I used them to show that, good or bad, the reward often seems the same.
Public execution are for those caught cheating.
Sorry for the confusion.
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#34835, "Regarding "colour" and "honour""
In response to Reply #53
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They are likely to be spelt that way by people living in a certain country, who share playing times.
Personally I sometimes avoid using English spellings and sometimes don't.
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#34837, "RE: Regarding"
In response to Reply #56
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I always use colour and honour, because thats the way the words are spelt in correct (read: non-American) English. If you have a problem with that or it gets to you for some reason, I really couldn't care less.
Rom.
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#34840, "The Correct?"
In response to Reply #57
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The problem i have is it's basicly code.
Hey, I'm not American, group with me.
I saw it used blatantly in a conversation once and it give me a bad taste.
And Color is as correct as colour. My dictionary is no better than yours.
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#34846, "RE: The Correct?"
In response to Reply #59
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The problem i have is it's basicly code.
Hey, I'm not American, group with me.
Now your just jumping at shadows that arn't really there.
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incognito | Thu 03-Feb-05 06:56 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
4495 posts
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#34853, "That's bad spelling"
In response to Reply #64
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You should say "grop me" not "group me".
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DurNominator | Thu 03-Feb-05 07:24 AM |
Member since 08th Nov 2004
2018 posts
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#34855, "Grhm. Yo shold say... nt"
In response to Reply #66
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#34847, "RE: The Correct."
In response to Reply #59
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The correct forms of honour and colour are indeed spelled with a u.
This happened because so many people in the United States consistently misspelled the words that they were just changed. If you're a fan of Futurama, in their setting the word ask was officially changed to axe for a very similiar reason.
I find it freightening how many people believe that short forms are a good idea on the internet. How long before 'because' becomes 'becoz' or your becomes ur?
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Vynmylak | Thu 03-Feb-05 08:41 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
52 posts
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#34877, "Yep, Guilty!"
In response to Reply #46
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Just happened to be cruising the forums to see what was happening, and saw Lariya was gone. What a great character! Each and EVERY time I happened to watch Lariya, I was more and more impressed -- on counts of PK acumen, roleplay, area knowledge, tactics... it was a complete package. And so, yes, I do believe I was the one who granted the third virtue -- and would do it again without any sense of hesitation. If memory serves, I believe Lariya was already in her 50 wins - single digit losses when granted, and truly did not have made much of in impact in the grand scheme of things.
Too rarely did I get to see the "complete" package, and this one was it for me. Thanks, Lariya, for the opportunity to watch. It was a blast!
thx, Vyn
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#34879, "Its good to see you're still around."
In response to Reply #69
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Thought you might have died or something.
Sheesh.
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#34886, "Nice post, but..."
In response to Reply #46
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I'd have to say I think you should just ignore it and move on. The individuals who are stuck in their mindsets will continue to be that way. It's the same with anything else on the board. I have come to the point where I will write up a lengthy reply to something I don't agree with on Dio's or whatever. But then I read through it and think... who cares? If I post this it will mean nothing. So I just tend to ignore baseless criticism, trolling, and pure flames. It just isn't worth the time because the reply you create will change nothing. I want to thank you, Shokai, as well as Nepenthe. You two are the Imm's that gave me chances in the past after making a mistake or two and made me really realize how awsome you guys are. So thanks for everything and ignore the pointless dribble people tend to spout and just continue doing what you do best as long as you still find it to be enjoyable. I know the majority of the playerbase, who for the most part will remain silent, feel the same way as me in our thoughts of the sacrafices you guys make to keep us in an ever evolving fantastic world. Thank you so very much to everyone, Imm's and Players alike who make this game so amazing. Nothing else can compare.
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#34775, "Lariya log"
In response to Reply #0
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Setup: Empire has Maran's orb I think. Lariya is spotted in
Balator but everybody is afraid to fight her.
I wait a bit for others but when just say 'Screw it' and
decide to do something.
[51 Elf Pal] (PK) Lariya the Holy Ironhearted Knight,
Marshall of the Fortress
[51 Cloud War] (PK) Haljunei the Weaponsmaster
[40 Human Pal] (PK) Bremas the Crusader
[49 Min War] (PK) Sharidum the Field Marshall
[47 Storm War] (PK) Gotumlir the Captain
[51 Human Shf] (PK) [TRIBUNAL] Larsetta Dobrey the Grand
Mistress of Changelings, Magistrate of Galadon
[51 Arial War] (PK) (WANTED) Baielko the Weaponsmaster
[42 Duerg War] (PK) [EMPIRE] Kroelgruk the Master of Brass,
Imperial Blade
[51 D-Elf War] (PK) Vexoffesz the Weaponsmaster
[51 Human Tra] (PK) Alon the High Wizard of the Arcane
[51 Arial War] (PK) [TRIBUNAL] Zaklotel the Weaponsmaster,
Justiciar of Thera
[41 Fire War] (PK) [EMPIRE] Drakuniz the Master of Bronze,
Elite Imperial Blade
[49 Human Con] (PK) Merandir the Channeler of the Spirits
*47 Arial Nec* (PK) [EMPIRE] Niolas the Spectre, Elite
Imperial Warlock
[51 Duerg War] (PK) [EMPIRE] Jestopeia the Weaponsmistress,
Elite Imperial Blade
[51 Fire War] (PK) Thrakadan Rah the Weaponsmaster, Eternal
BattleRager
[51 Gnome Shf] (PK) Jorgael the Grand Master of Changelings
[51 Svirf Inv] (PK) Kuwanee the Weaver of the Elements
[48 Cloud Dru] (PK) (WANTED) Voronil Flivi the Elemental King,
Warder Lieutenant
[4 AM] <704/704hp 1091/1115mn 445/528mv>
People near you:
(PK) Lariya On the main path through the
village
(PK) Kroelgruk On the main path through the
village
Valoria On the main path through the
village
(PK) Niolas On the main path through the
village
[4 AM] <704/704hp 1091/1115mn 445/528mv>
You are affected by:
Power: 'centurions' for 41 hours.
Spell: 'detect invis' for 37 hours.
Power: 'power of the damned' for 27 hours.
Spell: 'armor of living bone' modifies armor class by -20 for
16 hours.
Spell: 'invis' for 15 hours.
Spell: 'protection from good' for 8 hours.
Spell: 'detect magic' for 6 hours.
Spell: 'shield' modifies armor class by -30 for 4 hours.
Spell: 'wraithform' for 1 hours.
Spell: 'wraithform' for 1 hours.
[4 AM] <704/704hp 1091/1115mn 445/528mv>
People near you:
(PK) Lariya On the main path through the
village
(PK) Kroelgruk On the main path through the
village
Valoria On the main path through the
village
(PK) Niolas On the main path through the
village
[4 AM] <704/704hp 1091/1115mn 445/528mv>
The centurion steps aside for you.
The centurion steps aside for you.
On the main path through the village
[Exits: north east south west]
One of the boys who lives in the orphanage is here.
A villager passes by on their way about town.
A human warrior student trains in battle and tactics here.
[4 AM] <704/704hp 1091/1115mn 444/528mv> On the main
path through the village
[Exits: north east south west]
Water splashes forth from an ornate fountain.
[4 AM] <704/704hp 1091/1115mn 443/528mv> On the main
path through the village
[Exits: north east south west]
A cloud giant member of the Balator town watch is ready to
smash criminals.
(Translucent) Kroelgruk is here.
A flesh golem lumbers along, its eyes glowing a dim red in the
night.
A zombie of the elite dwarven guard is here.
A zombie of the elite dwarven guard is here.
A shambling mummy sways here, taking grim pleasure in the
darkness.
(Invis) (Ghostly) Valoria is here.
(White Aura) Lariya is here.
A villager passes by on their way about town.
Bladerunner, captain of the town watch, stands here alert.
[4 AM] <704/704hp 1091/1115mn 442/528mv> You zap Lariya
with a sickly green wand.
Lariya yells 'Die Niolas, you wand using fool!'
You wither the flesh of Lariya!
You fade into existence.
Your withering wounds Lariya.
Lariya has a few scratches.
[4 AM] <704/704hp 1091/1115mn 442/528mv>
Lariya's searing light DISMEMBERS you!
Lariya's searing light MASSACRES you!
Lariya's searing light MASSACRES you!
The central stone in Lariya's helm flashes brilliantly!
Lariya parries your cut.
Lariya parries your cut.
Lariya has a few scratches.
[4 AM] <498/704hp 1091/1115mn 442/528mv>
Stepping across, Lariya blocks your attack and quickly smashes
your beak with the hilt of her weapon.
Someone's searing light EVISCERATES you!
Someone has a few scratches.
[4 AM] <453/704hp 1091/1115mn 442/528mv>
Your armor of bones cracks and splinters!
Someone's searing light MANGLES you!
Someone's searing light MASSACRES you!
You dodge someone's searing light.
Someone's searing light DISMEMBERS you!
Something leaps from someone's grasp striking you!
Someone's searing light MASSACRES you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
Something returns to someone's grasp.
Someone's wooden hummingbird pendant glows white!
Someone parries your cut.
Someone parries your cut.
Someone is in perfect health.
[4 AM] <144/704hp 1091/1115mn 442/528mv>
Someone brings something up and across at you!
Someone's strike of faith MASSACRES you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
Completing its upper slash, someone steps forward and brings
something down in an opposite arc towards you!
Your armor of bones cracks and splinters!
Someone's strike of purity *** DEMOLISHES *** you!
You have been KILLED!!
You have died, but the Carrion Fields are not finished with
you yet!
Your soul is returned to the realms in the form of a ghost.
You will return to your corporeal state in a short while.
Be careful, for even a ghost should fear some dangers!
You feel some of your vitality drain out of you with this
death.
Better stand up first. (THIS WAS MY RECALL ATTEMPT!!!)
[4 AM] <1/408hp 1/960mn 442/528mv>
You tell your group 'nice'
...
You tell Lariya 'You are too mean for me'
Lariya tells you 'Well, I've tried to train for these sorts of
things, that was a pretty nasty trick you tried on me.'
You tell Lariya 'I just got tired of waiting for others'
You tell Lariya 'I knew the risks'
Lariya tells you 'I can understand that.'
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#34766, "A Great Log"
In response to Reply #0
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** Haljunei had just killed Grurk and was thirsting when Lariya walks in. This was posted by Grurk **
Lariya yells 'Help! I am being attacked by Haljunei!' Sensing Haljunei's attack, Lariya deftly avoids it and returns a counter strike! Lariya's divine power *** DEMOLISHES *** Haljunei! Lariya's divine power MASSACRES Haljunei! Haljunei is DEAD!! Haljunei spills his guts all over the floor.
get all corpse o all get all corpse You get a circlet of dark metal from the burnt corpse of Haljunei. You get a mantle of fire from the burnt corpse of Haljunei. You get a set of polished iron legplates from the burnt corpse of Haljunei. You get an adamantite bracer from the burnt corpse of Haljunei. You get a pair of fur-lined gloves from the burnt corpse of Haljunei. You get an amethyst ring from the burnt corpse of Haljunei. You get Lifthrasir, the dual-bladed battleaxe from the burnt corpse of Haljunei. You get a thin double-bladed axe from the burnt corpse of Haljunei. You get 'Vengeance', the Shining Sword from the burnt corpse of Haljunei. You get a girdle of many pouches from the burnt corpse of Haljunei. A great mithril axe named, 'Glauraung's Blade': you can't carry that many items. The belt of strength: you can't carry that many items. A pair of knee-high boots of red hematite: you can't carry that many items. Flawless pectoral plates of red hematite: you can't carry that many items. A silver ring set with a single malachite: you can't carry that many items. A blood-soaked cape: you can't carry that many items. An adamantite bracer: you can't carry that many items. A primitive fertility mask: you can't carry that many items. A poncho from the carcass of Grurk: you can't carry that many items. An unholy axe, 'Nightbringer': you can't carry that many items. The girdle of endless space: you can't carry that many items. You get a gold coin from the burnt corpse of Haljunei. You get 230 silver coins from the burnt corpse of Haljunei. You get 556 copper coins from the burnt corpse of Haljunei.
Haljunei says 'i did return yas all yer tinks grurk'
You say 'after take whut want, me du same'
Haljunei says 'what did meh take o' yers?'
Lariya says 'Uhm, I'm sorry about interrupting.'
Haljunei growls.
Lariya says 'Uh...I'll let you two sort this out.'
** I am truly impressed at how often you were able to hit other people, especially that Mekantos log. I need to get me some of that acid **
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#34733, "Request: RP logs"
In response to Reply #0
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If Lariya doesn't post anything, maybe Shokai has some logs. Not trying to say anything bad, I just want to see what kind of level of rp is required to get fortitude, temperance, faith and retribution virtue sets all in one char and to get an idea of the time frame. Will help those of us that aren't so good.
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Grurk Muouk | Mon 31-Jan-05 01:55 PM |
Member since 15th Mar 2004
538 posts
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#34734, "Misinformation. n/t"
In response to Reply #8
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#34737, "Asking for logs..."
In response to Reply #9
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So that someone can see the level of RP required to get all the virtues Lariya had is 'misinformation?' How can a request that doesn't actually assert anything be misinformation?
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#34739, "He said that Lariya had like 4 virtues..."
In response to Reply #10
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One would assume that seeing as that is an assumption, that it would be the misinformation?
Or can I kill you in three hits again?
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#34740, "Lariya did have three or four virtues."
In response to Reply #12
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Plus heaps of other imm-given powers. I don't see what's misinformation about asking to see logs of Lariya's RP, so that others can learn how to get such nifty prizes too.
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#34754, "Why are you getting defensive?"
In response to Reply #16
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Both you and Grurk. All I'm saying is, I--like the original poster--would like to see logs of Lariya's rp. I only knew Lariya as Tcatama, and while I would say she was solid, I personally did not see whatever she did to get as powerful as she was, and I would like to now that I can ask in an OOC format. There's no denying Lariya had some sick powers/virtues/whatever, and was extremely deathful. So, let's see some logs if they're out there.
Focker...OUT.
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#34762, "My request was to see logs."
In response to Reply #20
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So I can see how she got her nifty powers. That doesn't seem like an unreasonable request (read: request, not demand). When I deleted Kungkruk, I posted quite a few rp logs for people who wanted to know who/what Kungkruk was.
I know you have a lot of time on your hands, Vlad; spend it doing something else other than putting words in my mouth.
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Vladamir | Mon 31-Jan-05 09:40 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
1179 posts
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#34768, "Firstly, I didn't put any words in your mouth."
In response to Reply #22
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You SAID and I quote "Lariya had three or four virtues, plus heaps of imm-given powers". Thats not putting words in your mouth moron, you said it. It's there in brown and white for all to see. It was also wrong.
Secondly, how many times over the years have immortals kept logs of things mortals did that they saw, and posted them here as justification for their actions? Whats that, none? You're making a request for the immstaff to keep logs of things a player did, and post them to justify to your satisfaction that someone didn't get something more than you did. Thats really all you or anyone else who is bitching is worried about. What did someone else get that you didn't. Thats lame.
If Lariyas player wanted to post the logs that would be a different matter entirely (though you'd still have been wrong about just what all she had). Asking the imms to drag up logs that they really have no reason to even have made, from a year or more ago is completely unreasonable. You tell me when this has ever happened in the past as justification for something someone earned IC, and I'll retract all of this.
But since you won't be able to, I won't have to.
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#34770, "Show me where I used the word 'demand'~"
In response to Reply #27
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Theerkla | Tue 01-Feb-05 11:16 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
1055 posts
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#34786, "I think the problem is that there is an implied "undese..."
In response to Reply #28
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Maybe it's intentional, maybe it's not, but your post reads to me as you basically saying that Lariya did not earn any the rewards she was given. Hence the responses you received.
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Enbuergo | Tue 01-Feb-05 01:14 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
150 posts
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#34796, "If I sound overly aggressive"
In response to Reply #35
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It's because my original post standing up for the first poster, was met with what I thought was undeserved pushback by Vlad and the other imms. This made me pushback harder.
I'm done with this thread. You can all get back to whatever it is made Lariya's life nad death controversial.
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nepenthe | Mon 31-Jan-05 09:15 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
3430 posts
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#34767, "RE: Why are you getting defensive?"
In response to Reply #17
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Disclaimer: Lariya was during my CF AWOL phase. I don't know jack #### about this character other than what's posted here.
1) The reason to get defensive is your tone, honestly. It's all "This character got more than I think they deserved, so you damn well better prove they were worth it!" At least, that's what I'm reading into it, again, not knowing jack #### about the situation.
2) As an imm, at least, I don't log ####. I wouldn't be surprised if Shokai didn't either.
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#34773, "My original response was to the 'misinfo' flag."
In response to Reply #26
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Which seemed to me to have nothing to do with the first posters question. When I see a request for a log, followed by 'misinformation,' followed by attacks on me for sticking up for the original poster...
I can only conclude that imms were suspecting that Lariya would get attacked for some reason, hence Shokai's post on the preemptive defense. I don't see how a request for some logs could spiral into this otherwise. You all will have to let me know what the scoop is.
You'll all have to excuse me if I haven't visited the dangerroom since 1996 and don't know what color underwear Lariya's player wears.
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Vladamir | Mon 31-Jan-05 11:41 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
1179 posts
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#34774, "The question itself had misinfo in it. nt"
In response to Reply #30
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Vladamir | Mon 31-Jan-05 06:02 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
1179 posts
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#34758, "You realize nothing you can say is going to actually ch..."
In response to Reply #16
Edited on Mon 31-Jan-05 06:15 PM
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Because of who played Lariya, everyones mind is already made up about the entire matter, and they're just going to point their fingers and say "Look! Look! This is unfair!". In some instances, they are right, and in others they are wrong.
On the one hand, when was the last time any paladin got three virtues? Sure, you can say she roleplayed well (Duh) all you like, but there have been if not better roleplayed, then just as well roleplayed paladins more recently who got bupkis. Audriel is a prime example. Roleplayed so well she caused a resurgance in a dead religion, led the Fortress and became a heroimm. She was nearly a hero before she even got her first virtue, let alone two. Deathful? Not at a bit, but I don't think a body count should be the only thing considered when handing out extra powers. Really thats kind of silly don't you think? "This person is already mowing down people left and right. So, lets give them MORE power because...well because". Lariya SHOULD have been a power house, considering how well she knew the class, and how best to use the advantages it has against other players in ANY situation. You can say "It doesn't matter" but that level of knowledge clearly makes a difference, and a third virtue may be seen as just overkill. Meanwhile someone who is leading the Fortress, roleplaying her ass off (well enough to heroimm) has none, or one virtue. When you look at things from that perspective, do you blame people for wanting some answers?
Now, on the other hand, I am by no means saying Lariya did not deserve what she got. Lariya was a solid character, who stood out for taking risks and always mixing it up. But what it really boils down to is none of this matters. People are going to look at the player, look at the suspicious seldom-given third virtue, and have their minds made up before you even answer. Frankly, I wouldn't even bother, because it's just going to cause a huge round of nitpicking and bitching.
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#34791, "RE: You realize nothing you can say is going to actuall..."
In response to Reply #24
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I'm curious about her deathfulness, i've only ever seen logs of her 2 rounding people or wasting them with her counter virtue, or else dying to thieves.
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#34787, "This is why I hate Lichs."
In response to Reply #19
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>On the one hand, when was the last time any paladin got three >virtues? Sure, you can say she roleplayed well (Duh) all you >like, but there have been if not better roleplayed, then just >as well roleplayed paladins more recently who got bupkis. >Audriel is a prime example. Roleplayed so well she caused a >resurgance in a dead religion, led the Fortress and became a >heroimm. She was nearly a hero before she even got her first >virtue, let alone two.
Why did Audriel only get one virtue? Mayby because she followed a dead religion, no IMM was watching her as much or something, but I agree she should of deserved 2.
>think a body count should be the only thing considered when >handing out extra powers. Really thats kind of silly don't you >think? "This person is already mowing down people left and >right. So, lets give them MORE power because...well because". >Lariya SHOULD have been a power house, considering how well >she knew the class, and how best to use the advantages it has >against other players in ANY situation. You can say "It >doesn't matter" but that level of knowledge clearly makes a >difference, and a third virtue may be seen as just overkill.
This is why I hate Lichs. "OK, this guy is a total badass, lets give him even more powers so he's even more unstoppable and if he overcomes the limitations that a Lich was, which a lot of elite guys can and did, let's give him some rituals so he's practically a demi-god who can wipe out his range solo and eventually deletes out of boredom."
Zorzual had, what, a 99% PK ratio? That's sick, thank God you don't see unbalanced, overpowered chars like him anymore.
>Meanwhile someone who is leading the Fortress, roleplaying her >ass off (well enough to heroimm) has none, or one virtue. When >you look at things from that perspective, do you blame people >for wanting some answers?
That is a good point.
>Now, on the other hand, I am by no means saying Lariya did not >deserve what she got. Lariya was a solid character, who stood >out for taking risks and always mixing it up. But what it >really boils down to is none of this matters. People are going >to look at the player, look at the suspicious seldom-given >third virtue, and have their minds made up before you even >answer. Frankly, I wouldn't even bother, because it's just >going to cause a huge round of nitpicking and bitching.
Noone bitched when Lochzan got three or those special powers, but he handicapped himself so much and died so often that it was more than balanced out.
I can't blame some people with wanting balance, that with 3 virtues, a leader weapon, maran powers, and a tat, Lariya turned from a excellent PKer, to an overpowered, unbalanced juggernaut. The sort of char where it's not even worth trying to fight since you know you're going to get 2-3 rounded, which isn't fun or challenging at all. Why should I spend 45 minutes getting good gear so I loose it if I blink at the wrong time?
Suggestion? Cap virtues at 2.
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#34793, "I like when we have the occasional unstopable Bad-Azz."
In response to Reply #36
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I don't want everything to be vanila.
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Nivek1 | Tue 01-Feb-05 01:07 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
655 posts
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#34795, "Seconded. nt"
In response to Reply #39
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Vladamir | Tue 01-Feb-05 03:30 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
1179 posts
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#34806, "Just some problems here..."
In response to Reply #36
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>Why did Audriel only get one virtue? Mayby because she >followed a dead religion, no IMM was watching her as much or >something, but I agree she should of deserved 2. >
She did eventually get two. She also got heaps of immteraction and bonus XP so imms WERE watching. My point was if anyone deserved a third virtue IMHO she did. I'm admittedly biased since we're friends, but thats also beside the point. Have you ever read her role? *24* chapters. And not one liners either, we're talking full chapters.
> >This is why I hate Lichs. "OK, this guy is a total badass, >lets give him even more powers so he's even more unstoppable >and if he overcomes the limitations that a Lich was, which a >lot of elite guys can and did, let's give him some rituals so >he's practically a demi-god who can wipe out his range solo >and eventually deletes out of boredom."
I agree with this.
>Zorzual had, what, a 99% PK ratio? That's sick, thank God you >don't see unbalanced, overpowered chars like him anymore.
You do. These days though people make this sort of thing for themselves by having an OOC ring of supporters.
> >That is a good point.
Yeah, i rock.
>Noone bitched when Lochzan got three or those special powers, >but he handicapped himself so much and died so often that it >was more than balanced out.
He also didn't even have access to 9/10ths of the "powers" given to him. I felt for the guy, but he stuck it out.
>I can't blame some people with wanting balance, that with 3 >virtues, a leader weapon, maran powers, and a tat, Lariya >turned from a excellent PKer, to an overpowered, unbalanced >juggernaut. The sort of char where it's not even worth trying >to fight since you know you're going to get 2-3 rounded, which >isn't fun or challenging at all. Why should I spend 45 minutes >getting good gear so I loose it if I blink at the wrong time?
Here I don't agree. Lariya DID die, even in one on one situations. There are some things even a triple virtues paladin will die to.
>Suggestion? Cap virtues at 2. >
For the most part they are. I don't have any problems with Lariya having three virtues.
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#35139, "Well, not really...."
In response to Reply #16
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This isn't meant as an attack on Lariya, I never interacted with her, but after reading your post Shokai, I checked on her PBF. I was expecting to see a ton of pre-hero pk's from her, but found only 7 pre-hero pk's. Not exactly backing up your previous statement. I don't believe that she was unworthy of her 3 legacies, like I said I never interacted with her. If you say her rp was worthy of it, then it was. Just showing that she wasn't exactly deathful in her younger years.
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DurNominator | Mon 31-Jan-05 02:40 PM |
Member since 08th Nov 2004
2018 posts
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#34738, "Perhaps you could be less vague with your post Grurk?"
In response to Reply #9
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What is misinformation and what is the correct information?
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Vladamir | Mon 31-Jan-05 05:44 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
1179 posts
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#34755, "Well for one thing she didn't have four virtues. nt"
In response to Reply #11
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Grurk Muouk | Mon 31-Jan-05 03:30 PM |
Member since 15th Mar 2004
538 posts
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#34742, "I'm pretty sure.."
In response to Reply #9
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I'm pretty sure, no one has ever had 4 virtues. =)
Grurk
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Drag0nSt0rm | Mon 31-Jan-05 04:10 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
450 posts
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#34746, "I'll stick with him on that one and go as far as to say..."
In response to Reply #14
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That kinda threevirtue loving wasn't fun at all to be on the receiving end no matter what flavor of race/class you used. Only a nuet shapeshifter stands a freakin chance =P
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Eskelian | Mon 31-Jan-05 06:40 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
2023 posts
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#34760, "Who cares? Just drop the whole thing, it doesn't matter..."
In response to Reply #8
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If the player wishes to post some logs, go for it. If not, it doesn't matter. In general don't play characters with the intentions of getting any sort of reward because you'll more likely be disappointed than not, even if you get what you were looking for.
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thornheart | Mon 31-Jan-05 10:10 AM |
Member since 11th May 2003
49 posts
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#34729, "RE: (AUTO) [FORTRESS] Lariya the Ironhearted Bane of th..."
In response to Reply #0
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This character was amazing. I don't know what else to say. Scary when she was an enemy, a great boon as an ally.
Thorny
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#34727, "Woo! The Demon elf is gone!"
In response to Reply #0
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I think I'll celebrate that one =P Freakin ***DEV's through resist won't be missed!
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Bajula | Sun 30-Jan-05 10:23 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
929 posts
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#34722, "I stand in awe."
In response to Reply #0
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Having been on both sides with and against you, and having played an elven paladin before, wow. awesome. I truly liked your character all around. Most impressive.
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kas | Sun 30-Jan-05 01:18 AM |
Member since 20th Oct 2003
52 posts
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#34714, "Scarier than hell"
In response to Reply #0
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Smarter than most as well. Simply put I never stood a chance in any of our fights. Whether it was back before you even had the nifty templar tricks, to when you where the beast that made ranges quit. Well played is all I can say in the end, and luck with your next.
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#34712, "What it was like fighting Lariya."
In response to Reply #0
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100% parry, wielding a sword. I don't know what kind of crack you had, but damn...
<1160/1300hp 962/998m 405mv <4 PM |outdoor> whe People near you: Skanelaw A Light Filled Corridor (PK) Mekantos Standing Before the Fortress of Light (PK) Lariya The Snowy Courtyard
<1160/1300hp 962/998m 405mv <4 PM |outdoor> af You are affected by: Spell: 'frenzy' modifies armor class by 35 for 14 hours. Spell: 'frenzy' modifies damage roll by 7 for 14 hours. Spell: 'frenzy' modifies hit roll by 7 for 14 hours. Spell: 'bloodlust of the twelve fiends' modifies damage roll by 5 for 11 hours. Spell: 'bloodlust of the twelve fiends' modifies strength by 5 for 11 hours. Spell: 'iron grip of azazel' for 10 hours. Physical malady: 'cabal raid' modifies morale by -10 for 9 hours. Spell: 'barrier' modifies armor class by -80 for 3 hours. Spell: 'aura' modifies armor class by -30 for 3 hours. Spell: 'protection from good' for 3 hours. Spell: 'despoil' modifies hp by 423 for 3 hours. Spell: 'detect invis' for 2 hours.
<1160/1300hp 962/998m 405mv <4 PM |outdoor> Silvery-white flames flicker in Lariya's eyes as she attacks you! You yell 'Help! I am being attacked by Lariya!' Lariya's searing light decimates you! A Maran Tara'bal says 'Protect the light my brother.' Lariya parries your shocking bite. Lariya parries your pound. Lariya parries your shocking bite. Lariya parries your pound. Buzzing with charge an arc of lightning snaps from your weapon, arcing towards Lariya. You thrust your hand forward as a brilliant shaft of lightning lurches toward Lariya. Your lightning bolt hits Lariya. Lariya's searing light decimates you! Lariya's searing light EVISCERATES you! Lariya's searing light devastates you! Lariya's searing light maims you! Lariya has a few scratches.
<998/1300hp 962/998m 405mv <4 PM |outdoor> c blindness You failed to blind Lariya. Lariya has a few scratches.
<998/1300hp 957/998m 405mv <4 PM |outdoor> Lariya parries your shocking bite. Lariya parries your pound. Lariya parries your shocking bite. Lariya's searing light decimates you! Lariya's searing light maims you! Lariya's searing light EVISCERATES you! Lariya's searing light EVISCERATES you! Lariya has a few scratches.
<842/1300hp 957/998m 405mv <4 PM |outdoor> Stepping across, Lariya blocks your attack and quickly smashes your beak with the hilt of her weapon. Someone's searing light mauls you. Someone has a few scratches.
<819/1300hp 957/998m 405mv <4 PM |outdoor> flee flee You can't see a thing! You flee from combat!
<819/1300hp 957/998m 401mv <4 PM |outdoor> You aren't fighting anyone.
<819/1300hp 957/998m 401mv <4 PM |outdoor> where n You can't see a thing!
<819/1300hp 957/998m 401mv <5 PM |outdoor> Silvery-white flames flicker in someone's eyes as it attacks you! You yell 'Help! I am being attacked by someone!' Someone's searing light devastates you! You can't see a thing! Someone has a few scratches.
<787/1300hp 957/998m 397mv <5 PM |outdoor> Someone parries your shocking bite. Someone parries your pound. Your pound MUTILATES someone! Someone parries your pound. Someone's searing light devastates you! Someone's searing light EVISCERATES you! Someone's searing light devastates you! Something leaps from someone's grasp striking you! Someone's searing light MASSACRES you! Something returns to someone's grasp. Someone has a few scratches.
<611/1300hp 957/998m 397mv <5 PM |outdoor> flee flee You can't see a thing! You flee from combat!
<611/1300hp 957/998m 393mv <5 PM |outdoor> c tele You aren't fighting anyone. Silvery-white flames flicker in someone's eyes as it attacks you! You yell 'Help! I am being attacked by someone!' Someone's searing light decimates you! You can't see a thing! You flee from combat!
<585/1300hp 957/998m 389mv <5 PM |outdoor> You can't see a thing!
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#34715, "What it was like fighting Lariya"
In response to Reply #2
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**The Setup: I see Lariya in the Inn, and sleep her with a **trap when she tries to leave and let her sanc fall. I then get **interrupted by Rehmorez, a goodie shifter.
<700/700hp 122m 412mv 13083tnl | civilized 12 AM> Trail to the inn
(Gold Aura) Lariya is sleeping here. A small white bunny hops around under a tree nibbling grass. Standing near a tree, a guard takes a break while eating cherries.
<700/700hp 122m 411mv 13083tnl | civilized 12 AM> People near you: (PK) Lariya Trail to the inn (PK) Szordrin Trail to the inn
<700/700hp 122m 411mv 13083tnl | civilized 12 AM> glance Lariya Lariya, a female elf, is in perfect health.
Lariya is using: <worn on finger> a signet ring engraved with a phoenix <worn on finger> a silver ring set with a single malachite <worn around neck> (Invis) a ruby-encrusted collar <worn around neck> (Invis) a ruby-encrusted collar <worn on body> a spider hide breastplate <worn on head> an ornate steel great helm <worn on legs> a pair of spiked leggings <worn on feet> some ornate steel boots <worn on hands> a pair of steel chain gloves <worn on arms> a set of polished mithril armplates <worn about body> (Humming) the Cloak of Night <worn about waist> a girdle of giant strength <worn around wrist> a malachite bracelet <worn around wrist> (Invis) (Glowing) the Bracelet of Bifrost <wielded> a holy sword named 'Defiance'
You peek at the inventory: a potion of translucence a bottle of peppermint schnapps (Glowing) a grey-colored potion (Glowing) a feather of levitation a mug of coffee, with cream and sugar the girdle of endless space (Glowing) a golden spiritual war hammer (Glowing) a runed sword of black-ish green crystal
**Snip: Stealing.
<700/700hp 127m 433mv 13083tnl | civilized 1 AM> where People near you: (PK) Lariya Trail to the inn (PK) Szordrin Trail to the inn
<700/700hp 127m 433mv 13083tnl | civilized 1 AM> Rehmorez utters the words, 'yazfuz yao'. Rehmorez conjures a cloud of purple smoke. You are revealed! ===VIS===VIS=== You are covered with glowing purple dust. +++FOGGED+++FOGGED+++ The Inn Guard is revealed! The Inn Guard is covered with glowing purple dust.
**Snip: He runs into the Inn, obviously to shift and **come to her rescue. I set a trap for him, 1 room south **of the elf.
<700/700hp 127m 414mv 13083tnl | civilized 2 AM> where People near you: (PK) Lariya Trail to the inn (PK) Rehmorez The Bar of the Eternal Star (PK) Szordrin The guard post Druhk The Bar of the Eternal Star
<700/700hp 127m 414mv 13083tnl | civilized 2 AM> trap direction knockout **** n You deftly begin setting a trap for the next person leaving from this place to the north. As you finish the setting, you gently dangle a bladder filled with sufficating powder! Ahh, perfection... Anyone who springs the trap will inhale the powder and fall unconscious!
<700/700hp 127m 414mv 13083tnl | civilized 2 AM> n where hide sneak Trail to the inn
(Gold Aura) Lariya is sleeping here. A small white bunny hops around under a tree nibbling grass. (Purple Aura) Standing near a tree, a guard takes a break while eating cherries.
<700/700hp 132m 431mv 13083tnl | civilized 2 AM> You scan south. ***** Range 1 ***** (Invis) (Gold Aura) a tiger is sleeping here.
**Bingo.
A guard stands near his post, eyeing the crowds for outlaws.
***** Range 2 ***** An old yellow dog beats its tail as it lies asleep at the old mans feet. An old mercenary, having long since given up the way of war, rocks back and forth in a swinging chair humming to himself.
**Snip: More stealing.
<700/700hp 137m 451mv 13083tnl | civilized 3 AM> get * charms You get a * from the Bracelet of Charms.
<700/700hp 137m 451mv 13083tnl | civilized 3 AM> recite * You recite a *. You feel protected. You briefly peer into the depths of Szordrin's soul... He is the embodiment of pure evil! He also seems very chaotic.
**Snip: Mega lag/semi crash. I set a trap north in case she flees.
<700/700hp 152m 517mv 13083tnl | civilized 7 AM> trap direction knockout **** n You deftly begin setting a trap for the next person leaving from this place to the north. As you finish the setting, you gently dangle a bladder filled with sufficating powder! Ahh, perfection... Anyone who springs the trap will inhale the powder and fall unconscious!
<700/700hp 152m 517mv 13083tnl | civilized 7 AM> n where s hide sneak eq l
You are hungry.
<700/700hp 157m 539mv 13083tnl | civilized 7 AM> i East Dairein Road
<700/700hp 157m 538mv 13083tnl | civilized 7 AM> People near you: (PK) Szordrin East Dairein Road
<700/700hp 157m 538mv 13083tnl | civilized 7 AM> Trail to the inn
(Gold Aura) Lariya is sleeping here. A small white bunny hops around under a tree nibbling grass. (Purple Aura) Standing near a tree, a guard takes a break while eating cherries.
<700/700hp 157m 537mv 13083tnl | civilized 7 AM> You can't hide while you are glowing.
<700/700hp 157m 537mv 13083tnl | civilized 7 AM> get steak charms eat steak You can't sneak while you are glowing.
<700/700hp 157m 537mv 13083tnl | civilized 7 AM> You are using: <worn on finger> a pitch-black ring <worn on finger> a pitch-black ring <worn around neck> (Red Aura) an amulet of the Viper <worn around neck> (Red Aura) (Glowing) a Talisman of Strength <worn on body> interlocking black plates <worn on head> an ancient Ranger Lord Stetson <worn on legs> Leggings from the Scales of Tiamat <worn on feet> the boots of stealth <worn on hands> a pair of fine gloves <worn on arms> (Humming) a pair of strange bracers <worn about body> Cloak of the wolf-kin <worn about waist> the blademaster's sash <worn around wrist> the Bracelet of Charms <worn around wrist> a wide copper bracelet <wielded> (Glowing) an iron mace <dual wield> (Red Aura) (Glowing) (Humming) the Shadow Dagger <tattooed> a copper banded jackal
<700/700hp 157m 537mv 13083tnl | civilized 7 AM> Trail to the inn A large trail winds off the main road. Short green trees filled with bright red cherries line both sides. A small building lies just to the south with several people standing outside of it. Looking further south a large wooden building stands atop a small hill. From its roof a brick chimney pipes forth smoke that seems to dance its way into the sky. The trail leads south to the inn or north to the main road. Barely visible, a smaller path winds its way east into a small clearing. A wooden sign, painted with bright colors sits under the nearest tree.
(Gold Aura) Lariya is sleeping here. A small white bunny hops around under a tree nibbling grass. (Purple Aura) Standing near a tree, a guard takes a break while eating cherries.
<700/700hp 157m 537mv 13083tnl | civilized 7 AM> You are carrying: the girdle of endless space (Glowing) a golden spiritual war hammer (Glowing) a grey-colored potion (Glowing) a runed sword of black-ish green crystal a potion of translucence (Glowing) a potion of return (Red Aura) the flaming sceptre of Chaos a * (Glowing) a feather of levitation (Glowing) (Humming) a ring embedded with a single ruby a metal canteen insulated in a wolf's pelt a potion of transportation (Glowing) a mace of electricity
<700/700hp 157m 537mv 13083tnl | civilized 7 AM> where waylay Lariya You get a large boar steak from the Bracelet of Charms.
<700/700hp 157m 537mv 13083tnl | civilized 7 AM> You eat a large boar steak. You are full.
<700/700hp 157m 537mv 13083tnl | civilized 7 AM> People near you: Valra The Bar of the Eternal Star (PK) Szordrin Trail to the inn (PK) Lariya Trail to the inn (PK) a tiger The guard post
<700/700hp 157m 537mv 13083tnl | civilized 7 AM> You have to be hidden before you can attempt to waylay anyone.
<700/700hp 157m 537mv 13083tnl | civilized 7 AM> af You are affected by: Spell: 'detect good' for 34 hours. Spell: 'detect evil' for 34 hours. Spell: 'detect invis' for 34 hours. Skill: 'detect hidden' for 32 hours. Spell: 'protection' for 20 hours. Skill: 'detect traps' for 5 hours. Skill: 'knock-out trap' for 1 hours. Spell: 'faerie fog' for 1 hours. Skill: 'haste' modifies dexterity by 4 for -1 hours.
<700/700hp 157m 537mv 13083tnl | civilized 7 AM> knife Lariya You drive your dagger into Lariya's side! Your knifing === OBLITERATES === Lariya! Lariya yells 'Help! Szordrin knifed me!' Lariya is covered with bleeding wounds.
<700/700hp 157m 537mv 13083tnl | civilized 7 AM> You dodge Lariya's divine power. You dodge Lariya's divine power. You dodge Lariya's divine power. Your pound *** DEMOLISHES *** Lariya! Lariya parries your pound. Lariya is gushing blood.
<700/700hp 157m 537mv 13083tnl | civilized 7 AM> trip Lariya
Lariya has fled!
<700/700hp 157m 537mv 13083tnl | civilized 7 AM> They aren't here.
<700/700hp 157m 537mv 13083tnl | civilized 7 AM> n trip Lariya s East Dairein Road
<700/700hp 157m 536mv 13083tnl | civilized 7 AM> trip Lariya They aren't here.
<700/700hp 157m 536mv 13083tnl | civilized 8 AM> Trail to the inn
(Gold Aura) Lariya is sleeping here. A small white bunny hops around under a tree nibbling grass. (Purple Aura) Standing near a tree, a guard takes a break while eating cherries.
**Hehe, gota love the traps. I've snipped me waiting **for the trap timer so I can place another.
<700/700hp 167m 571mv 13083tnl | civilized 9 AM> You deftly begin setting the trap but the intricacy of the operation is too great. As you attempt to finish the setting the trap collapses harmlessly. You gather the evidence of your FAILed attempt, but the ingredients are ruined.
<700/700hp 167m 571mv 13083tnl | civilized 9 AM> hide sneak You attempt to hide.
<700/700hp 167m 571mv 13083tnl | civilized 9 AM> get **** charms You attempt to move silently.
<700/700hp 167m 571mv 13083tnl | civilized 9 AM> hide sneak You step out of the shadows. +++HIDE+++HIDE+++ You get a **** from the Bracelet of Charms.
<700/700hp 167m 571mv 13083tnl | civilized 9 AM> trap direction knockout **** n You attempt to hide.
<700/700hp 167m 571mv 13083tnl | civilized 9 AM> You attempt to move silently.
<700/700hp 167m 571mv 13083tnl | civilized 9 AM> You deftly begin setting a trap for the next person leaving from this place to the north. As you finish the setting, you gently dangle a bladder filled with sufficating powder! Ahh, perfection... Anyone who springs the trap will inhale the powder and fall unconscious!
<700/700hp 167m 571mv 13083tnl | civilized 9 AM> hide sneak waylay Lariya knife Lariya trip Lariya You attempt to hide.
<700/700hp 167m 571mv 13083tnl | civilized 9 AM> trip Lariya You attempt to move silently.
<700/700hp 167m 571mv 13083tnl | civilized 9 AM> You wait to waylay Lariya. You step out of the shadows. +++HIDE+++HIDE+++ You trample around loudly again. You back Lariya into a corner and distract her from what she was doing!
**This exploit has since been fixed
<700/700hp 167m 571mv 13083tnl | civilized 9 AM> You drive your dagger into Lariya's side! Your knifing === OBLITERATES === Lariya! Lariya yells 'Help! Szordrin knifed me!' Lariya is writhing in agony.
<700/700hp 167m 571mv 13083tnl | civilized 9 AM> You parry Lariya's divine power. Lariya parries your pound. Your defilement *** DEMOLISHES *** Lariya! Lariya is DEAD!! Lariya splatters blood on your armor.
<700/700hp 167m 571mv 13083tnl | civilized 9 AM> They aren't here.
<700/700hp 167m 571mv 13083tnl | civilized 9 AM> They aren't here.
<700/700hp 167m 571mv 13083tnl | civilized 9 AM> get all corpse hide sneak You get a set of polished mithril armplates from the corpse of Lariya. You get a girdle of giant strength from the corpse of Lariya. You get a silver ring set with a single malachite from the corpse of Lariya. You get the Cloak of Night from the corpse of Lariya. You get a mug of coffee, with cream and sugar from the corpse of Lariya. A pair of steel chain gloves: you can't carry that much weight. You get a feather of levitation from the corpse of Lariya. Some ornate steel boots: you can't carry that many items. An ornate steel great helm: you can't carry that many items. A signet ring engraved with a phoenix: you can't carry that many items. A malachite bracelet: you can't carry that many items. A pair of spiked leggings: you can't carry that many items. A ruby-encrusted collar: you can't carry that many items. A ruby-encrusted collar: you can't carry that many items. The Bracelet of Bifrost: you can't carry that many items. A holy sword named 'Defiance': you can't carry that many items. A bottle of peppermint schnapps: you can't carry that many items. You get 622 silver coins from the corpse of Lariya. You get 216 copper coins from the corpse of Lariya.
<700/700hp 167m 571mv 13083tnl | civilized 9 AM> You attempt to hide.
<700/700hp 167m 571mv 13083tnl | civilized 9 AM> You attempt to move silently.
<700/700hp 167m 571mv 13083tnl | civilized 9 AM> l
Valra says 'may i?'
<700/700hp 167m 571mv 13083tnl | civilized 9 AM> Trail to the inn A large trail winds off the main road. Short green trees filled with bright red cherries line both sides. A small building lies just to the south with several people standing outside of it. Looking further south a large wooden building stands atop a small hill. From its roof a brick chimney pipes forth smoke that seems to dance its way into the sky. The trail leads south to the inn or north to the main road. Barely visible, a smaller path winds its way east into a small clearing. A wooden sign, painted with bright colors sits under the nearest tree.
The corpse of Lariya is here, unnaturally pale and gaunt. (Invis) (Red Aura) Valra is here. A small white bunny hops around under a tree nibbling grass. Standing near a tree, a guard takes a break while eating cherries.
<700/700hp 167m 571mv 13083tnl | civilized 9 AM> say go ahead i You step out of the shadows. +++HIDE+++HIDE+++ You say 'go ahead'
<700/700hp 167m 571mv 13083tnl | civilized 9 AM> You are carrying: ( 2) (Glowing) a feather of levitation a mug of coffee, with cream and sugar (Humming) the Cloak of Night a silver ring set with a single malachite a girdle of giant strength a set of polished mithril armplates the girdle of endless space (Glowing) a golden spiritual war hammer (Glowing) a grey-colored potion (Glowing) a runed sword of black-ish green crystal a potion of translucence (Glowing) a potion of return (Red Aura) the flaming sceptre of Chaos a * (Glowing) (Humming) a ring embedded with a single ruby a metal canteen insulated in a wolf's pelt a potion of transportation (Glowing) a mace of electricity
<700/700hp 167m 571mv 13083tnl | civilized 9 AM> drop feather drop feather You drop a feather of levitation.
<700/700hp 167m 571mv 13083tnl | civilized 9 AM> You drop a feather of levitation.
<700/700hp 167m 571mv 13083tnl | civilized 9 AM> drop mug drop cloak drop ring
Valra gets a pair of steel chain gloves from the corpse of Lariya. You drop a mug of coffee, with cream and sugar.
<700/700hp 167m 571mv 13083tnl | civilized 10 AM> Valra gets some ornate steel boots from the corpse of Lariya. Valra gets an ornate steel great helm from the corpse of Lariya. Valra gets a signet ring engraved with a phoenix from the corpse of Lariya. Valra gets a malachite bracelet from the corpse of Lariya. Valra gets a pair of spiked leggings from the corpse of Lariya. Valra gets a holy sword named 'Defiance' from the corpse of Lariya. Valra is struck down by a holy sword named 'Defiance'! Valra fades into existence. Valra's heavenly wrath === OBLITERATES === her! Valra gets a bottle of peppermint schnapps from the corpse of Lariya. You drop the Cloak of Night.
**And there goes defiance, back to its chest. I should **have gone for the spider hide, but I missed it. A few **moments later, this happens.
<44 Human Sha> (PK) Vansia the Shaman of Ice
<700/700hp 172m 593mv 13083tnl | civilized 10 AM> l valra
You yell 'Die, Vansia, you sorcerous dog!' Vansia narrows her eyes and glares in your direction. You trample around loudly again. You maim Vansia! Vansia deflects your defilement with her shield. Vansia dodges your pound. Vansia has a few scratches.
<700/700hp 172m 593mv 13083tnl | civilized 10 AM> Valra gets a feather of levitation. A strangely tall duergar stands here She has long hair, and looks quite clean. She smiles happily. Valra, a female duergar, is gushing blood.
Valra is using: <worn on finger> a pale white skull ring <worn on finger> a pale white skull ring <worn around neck> a brass-studded collar <worn around neck> a brass-studded collar <worn on body> a diaphanous gown of black silk <worn on head> a mithril cap <worn on legs> some leggings from the snow worm <worn on feet> some hard leather boots <worn on hands> a pair of dwarven gloves <worn on arms> a pair of golden sleeves <worn about body> a rough, woolen cloak with a golden anvil emblem <worn about waist> a fine leather belt <worn around wrist> a thick iron bracer <worn around wrist> a malachite bracelet <wielded> (Glowing) the shaman's mace <dual wield> an elegant silver rapier
You peek at the inventory: (Glowing) a feather of levitation a pair of spiked leggings a malachite bracelet a signet ring engraved with a phoenix ( 2) a cowhide knapsack Vansia has a few scratches.
<700/700hp 172m 593mv 13083tnl | civilized 10 AM> sac defiance
You dodge Vansia's stinging lash. You parry Vansia's stinging lash. Vansia parries your pound. Your defilement maims Vansia! Your pound MUTILATES Vansia! Vansia has some small but disgusting cuts.
<700/700hp 172m 593mv 13083tnl | civilized 10 AM> Valra gets a feather of levitation. You can't find it. Vansia has some small but disgusting cuts.
<700/700hp 172m 593mv 13083tnl | civilized 10 AM> flee flee where A Roadside Shrine
A tall stone altar bubbles forth crisp water. Bent and withered an old druid watches over those who rest in the shrine. You flee from combat! You fled east.
<700/700hp 172m 589mv 13083tnl | wilderness 10 AM> You aren't fighting anyone.
<700/700hp 172m 589mv 13083tnl | wilderness 10 AM> People near you: Valra Trail to the inn (PK) Szordrin A Roadside Shrine (PK) a tiger The guard post (PK) Vansia Trail to the inn
<700/700hp 172m 589mv 13083tnl | wilderness 10 AM> w n n hide sneak Trail to the inn
A large pile of mithril rests here, forged into a set of armplates. A lovely silver ring set with a green gem lies here. (Humming) A deep black cloak, glimmering with many star-like jewels lies here. A mug of coffee, with cream and sugar has been left here. The corpse of Lariya is here, unnaturally pale and gaunt. (Gold Aura) (White Aura) Vansia is here. A small white bunny hops around under a tree nibbling grass. Standing near a tree, a guard takes a break while eating cherries.
<700/700hp 172m 585mv 13083tnl | civilized 10 AM> East Dairein Road
<700/700hp 172m 584mv 13083tnl | civilized 10 AM> Alas, you cannot go that way.
<700/700hp 172m 584mv 13083tnl | civilized 10 AM> You attempt to hide.
<700/700hp 172m 584mv 13083tnl | civilized 10 AM> You attempt to move silently.
<700/700hp 172m 584mv 13083tnl | civilized 10 AM> sca s Target set to Vansia. You scan south. ***** Range 1 ***** (Red Aura) Valra is here. (Gold Aura) (White Aura) Vansia is sleeping here. A small white bunny hops around under a tree nibbling grass. Standing near a tree, a guard takes a break while eating cherries.
***** Range 2 ***** (Invis) (Gold Aura) a tiger is sleeping here. A guard stands near his post, eyeing the crowds for outlaws.
***** Range 3 ***** An old yellow dog beats its tail as it lies asleep at the old mans feet. An old mercenary, having long since given up the way of war, rocks back and forth in a swinging chair humming to himself.
<700/700hp 172m 584mv 13083tnl | civilized 11 AM> sca s s You scan south. ***** Range 1 ***** (Red Aura) Valra is here. (Gold Aura) (White Aura) Vansia is sleeping here. A small white bunny hops around under a tree nibbling grass. Standing near a tree, a guard takes a break while eating cherries.
***** Range 2 ***** (Invis) (Gold Aura) a tiger is sleeping here. A guard stands near his post, eyeing the crowds for outlaws.
***** Range 3 ***** An old yellow dog beats its tail as it lies asleep at the old mans feet. An old mercenary, having long since given up the way of war, rocks back and forth in a swinging chair humming to himself.
<700/700hp 172m 584mv 13083tnl | civilized 11 AM> Trail to the inn
A large pile of mithril rests here, forged into a set of armplates. A lovely silver ring set with a green gem lies here. (Humming) A deep black cloak, glimmering with many star-like jewels lies here. A mug of coffee, with cream and sugar has been left here. The corpse of Lariya is here, unnaturally pale and gaunt. (Red Aura) Valra is here. (Gold Aura) (White Aura) Vansia is sleeping here. A small white bunny hops around under a tree nibbling grass. Standing near a tree, a guard takes a break while eating cherries.
**Because the elf didn't flee, my trap was still there and **she tried to follow me. I had killed Vansia about 60 minutes **earlier in Tar Valon. I've snipped me waiting for her sanc **and flight to fall.
<700/700hp 147m 616mv 13083tnl | civilized 1 PM> People near you: Valra The Bar of the Eternal Star (PK) Szordrin Trail to the inn Lariya Trail to the inn (PK) a tiger The guard post (PK) Vansia Trail to the inn
<700/700hp 147m 616mv 13083tnl | civilized 1 PM> waylay Vansia knife Vansia trip Vansia You're not ready to waylay anyone again yet.
<700/700hp 147m 616mv 13083tnl | civilized 1 PM> You step out of the shadows. +++HIDE+++HIDE+++ You drive your dagger into Vansia's side! You trample around loudly again. Your knifing MANGLES Vansia! Vansia yells 'Help! Szordrin knifed me!' Vansia has some small but disgusting cuts.
<700/700hp 147m 616mv 13083tnl | civilized 1 PM> Lariya wakes and stands up. Vansia has some small but disgusting cuts.
<700/700hp 147m 616mv 13083tnl | civilized 1 PM> You parry Vansia's stinging lash. Your pound MANGLES Vansia! Vansia deflects your defilement with her shield. Vansia dodges your pound. Vansia is covered with bleeding wounds.
<700/700hp 147m 616mv 13083tnl | civilized 1 PM> Vansia closes her eyes with a look of concentration for a moment. Vansia disappears.
**And thats that. I left the tiger, who managed **to sleep through it all, and then some.
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Okay, I'm sorry, I just love this log Props to Lariya, very tough character, but bleh I say to paladin virtues.
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