Tue Nov 25 2:30:41 2003


Vanar Dashalath the Weaver of the Elements was put to rest.

Your right until I got better at spell evasion, a pillar with 6 hours of arcing on an arial with thief hp... that was death if there were no defenders about. But as I reached hero I eventually got better at it, though its still far from perfected.

Anyways I always looked forward to seeing you on the who list, Then I knew I at least had one person who would try and fight me. I know poison scout is a tough matchup for an invoker but you did a very good job managing it.

Your right about foslin never showing up, but mekantos is always around, he just doesn't retrieve or even try unless he has a bajillion people helping him. Which I can't blame him for.

on a side note the giant is tough, but I have noticed that the nightwalker has gotten tougher as well recently.


anyways... make a villager!!!!

>anyways... make a villager!!!!

Never would I turn to the dark side! I have been fighting them far too long to make one, hehe.

Lets see, I was on yesterday, where I was on before you got on, and when you got off, I was still there. I retrieved, twice, and only stopped attempting to retrieve when five villagers all got on and sat around the village. Perhaps before making comments, you should open your eyes, and please stop talking out of your ass, know that not everyone has a constant playing time that revolves around you.

Your right about foslin never showing up,

You mean "Foslin is not on while I am." She's on plenty enough. If she wasn't, she wouldn't be a mortal leader.

but mekantos is always around, he just doesn't retrieve or even try unless he has a bajillion people helping him.

You're on drugs.

but I have noticed that the nightwalker has gotten tougher as well recently.

No, it didn't.

For the earlier poster, Battle does have a slightly better outer guardian, because their class distribution is the worst of all cabals for assisting an NPC. Defenders and the odd ranger can help a little, but they do not compare to healers, transmuters, paladins, invokers, etc.

valguarnera@carrionfields.com
Edited for gender accuracy. Whoops.

nt

valguarnera@carrionfields.com

nt

Always a shame to lose a worthy adversary.

You're probably right about my tactics, except it's spores that I usually broke out on you first and then moved to everything else. Regardless, it sucks REALLY REALLY badly to have it volleyed back at you . As a player, I really felt bad when you were full-looted that time, but Pelthaas sees it as being necessary when someone runs up and strikes the ranger (much less throwing some ash around, opening crazy portals that spew varieties of nightwalkers, summoning druk'tar, corrupting the land etc.). Anyhow, you were definitely a skilled player, and I always had a good time when dealing with you (be it fighting or talking). Best of luck in whatever you move on to next.

Pelthaas

What a ride. I was down at 5 con when I deleted. Logging in had become a
chore as I guess it tends to be to everyone when nothing new happens. Always
the same, logging on, retriving from the village using up all preps. Regathering
preps, defend, log off. The latter 100 hours were me doing it alone aside from a
very few times.

I'll just ramble on some. Scion is a cool cabal from the power viewpoint as it
really gives the atmosphere along the lines of what you read in the helpfiles
and such. I didn't figgure out all parts of forsaken portal till in the very
end, and how the other things worked. I wonder however when there'll ever be
something questy happening there. Or perhaps it happens to Foslin and Mekantos
who very rarely logs on theese days.

Unfortunately the current way things are we are the only cabal the village can
raid. So obviously there are none to share the pain and that does suck a bit.
So while the village has us occasionally raiding we have the village, fortress
and the sylvans comming at our door. This beeing made very apparant by my last
death where I head to the Chasm only to get the hunt called at me by Pelthaas
in the desert, then running into the chasm I get knocked-out by Flaerglum.
So I run over to Arkham and heal up, returning ot hamsah Skallgrim comes up
and starts wrathing and I lag out. I return later to my mind, try retrive, scare
off Flaerglum, teleport with a potion beccause the moment flaerglum flees the
poison gives me forget. So I wait out the emetic poison which lasts for 20 hours
or so, and when 3 hours or so remains and I have 300 hp left I go to take a quick
toilet visit and when I return to the screen a treant has killed me. Apparantly I
was found by the warders. And looted by some level 11 thief so I admitted crushing
defeat against a treant.

But hell, it wasn't as if the challenge of fighting 3 cabals was boring when I
had barrier. But it was less entertaining when I didn't.

I also fought Flaerglum quite a few times so I have some first hand experience on
fighting poison thieves and I -don't think they're overpowered-. Aside from knock-out
lasting long enough for the entire cabal to appear. Also, the emetic poison applied
to armor that then kills -GHOSTS- is just a bug that is too ugly to describe. I lost
a con to that and I'm sure many others have aswell. But other than that, poison thieves
are more annoying than deadly. But of course, I never fought the Emperor but I can
only assume it's a diffrent thing beeing suggested to quaff level 60 pwk potions.

As far as invokers go they still kick ass I went all paths with Vanar which I guess
is a bit silly but I had to try it. Sure, alot of practice was done but on the other
hand those pillars of lightning were half my pkrecord, hehe.

No matter. On to the farewells:
Scions:
Kwalin: Hang in there, I mistook you for a newbie at first but then you showed some
real prowess and knew where to get alot of fancy armor that I never bothered to look
for and I changed my mind. It's all in your hands now.

Foslin: Ah, how amused I was the times you gained abashai(sp?) devils, especially from
beeing forced to conjure in the Chasm. I have played a few conjurers so I know your pain
and I know not to conjure in clanhalls. Other than that you play an evil conjurer as I
am afraid they HAVE to be played. Very carefully. Which is a bummer and quickly becomes
boring from my own experience. Good luck, you'll need it against the village.

Mekantos: Ah, I recall still when you first interviewed me, I thought you pretty cool
then, but as I advanced in the Chasm you quickly became a pain in the ass. As you at
one time wrote on qhcf you could 'occasionally come off as an ass'. Well no ####
I was damn close to the quicksand, adhesive web, engulf combo on you. But later in
your life when you became advisor I ignored you and just played along - wouldn't know
what I'd do with the char if I got booted. Respect to RPing to piss people off. I'm
also impressed by your controls. As Daurwyn said, you played it cleverly.

Sossaphrin/Daurwyn: Hehe, we fought a bit alongside again, but not as often as Trien
and Daurwyn would. Still it was entertaining, I know you opposed yourself to the title
but I agree with the imms, you had been level 40 for a -damn- long time. Long before
any of us were scions we met in that shrine and talked some. You were level 40 then
and had just lost your first weapon I think. The one with the many charges. And then
long after you were still 40 when I had been hero for quite some time. We are talking
weeks. None the less, well played, you inspired me to roll a new ap, but I've put him
on hold for now.

Zaknafir: As I wrote in your farewell thread it was a pity we couldn't play alongside
more. It was obvious that you knew your way around Thera very well. But you were always
so quiet or I'm sure you'd have gotten a leader position. Now instead we have the guys
playing it smart (ie, never defending against odds or raiding against odds) as leaders.

Ilivarra: I like your character and something tells me this is far from your first
character in scion. Very cool with the title and the tattoo. I enjoyed when we fought
alongside outside the village although you mostly acted as meat shield.

The secret man, you know who you are: Thanks for the barrier wand there, it kept me
trucking for another few sessions against the village. Then I believe it ended up with
the healer next to the destructor. A pity. But it helped alot to have it again. Seem
you've stopped showing along with the others. No good, you played it very well.

Zashiere: Hehe, I enjoyed playing around you, mostly beccause you mirrored my own
playstyle which would be a balls to the walls style which me more often than you
gets one killed. I think. I knew the chasm needed you and based more on that than
anything else I gave you my recommendation.

Ghuishoc: I enjoyed you, though your automated rest/stand/jazz emotes became rather
dull after a while you still came off a far better roleplayer than myself. It was
good to have you around beccause, as Zashiere, you were always out there fighting.

Various scion imms: Thank you for that A dark voice: Well done, magus Vanar.
I walked on clouds after that for a week atleast. Other than that it seemed you were
just checking around for things to complain about. No questy stuff :|

As far as about that gnome who wanted to join us, I just sent him your way beccause
I needed the scepter. I knew too he was far from having what it took to be a scion,
but in some painful yet very interesting way you would on your own demonstrate to this
little shifter.

Battle:
I hated the gangs. Sure you aren't supposed to gang outside a raid situation but on the
other hand almost all fights are in raid situations.

And isn't it the GREATEST irony that the outer guardian of the village is (almost) TWICE
as hard to kill when the villagers themselves are THREE times as dangerous as any other
cabalmember? Not to mention the destructor. I won't even start talking about him.

Juktar: Ah, how I enjoyed fighting you. Hell, if I ever roll a villager he'll be a
cloud giant with siege legacy. Though not a scout. They are by far easier than berserkers
after the tweak to bloodthirst. Still you were a damn near constant presence in the Chasm
with your solo-raiding.

Tykrul: Much respect to you for your honor jazz. I hope you'll get some commander position
once they realise you carry the true mind as I have always percived villagers within you.
(so battle imms if you want a tip for your next commander, look at Tykrul.)

Flaerglum: Ah, in the beginning when you were sub hero level I never bothered about you.
In pk fights you'd appear next to Juktar, eat an unspeaks pillar and run off. So judge
my surprise then when you actually killed me once you were a hero in the village. I
seriously underestimated you then. But after that I knew the rules and you were no diffrent
than the others. Even though you never hesitated to taunt me which kind off rubbed me the
wrong way. I heard you handed out emetic poison'd gear to newbies in the inn for a while,
yeah. That must've been fun. And then you get general position, whatever are they thinking.
Well fought none the less.

Haljunei: Hehe, I can tell this is your first villager (it must be). You always pincer
my shield of ice and you never have spellbane up Fighting you was always entertaining.

Broghelan: Heh, a rager with whips and a tatto that can curse. What a sick combination.
Still I appreciated the armor agreement we had, although my armor always ended up in the
hands of other villagers so I can't say the deal gave me much. So you are supposed to
be a honor guy? That is just sad considering the times you ganged me. Sure they were all
either in the village or the Chasm but you always participated. Tyrkul should carry the
gauntlet on your skin.

Slathigern, Baielko and Mauchelle: I fought you all a few times, all interesting.

The old commander and general, both starting with Z: I enjoyed our fights. Both of you
were beasts, even with a/b/s I stood little chance in solo fights.

Fortress:
More than often you were all too busy with Empire to notice us which is a pity. I had
looked forward to avalanching many a maran by the fortress. Unfortunately avalanche
was nerfed so when I tried it never ended well. c buffet worked well though.
I was also pretty bummed by how you would all patrol the eastern road and the village
when you knew they had the scepter. So when I retrived it was always running through
you guys first or knowing that you'd appear any minute while I fought the giant.

Jirash: In a duel I'd have you easily, but we never got to fight at such odds. A pity.

Skallgrim: The wrath communing machine. I believe angelswing can do something naughty
to spellcasters but I'm not sure, perhaps you should look into it? Other than that I
enjoyed our fights, though they were a bit onesided. I recall how I saw you when you
were level 15 and I was around 30 and we both stood in the mists practicing and not
saying a word to eachother.

Lairya: We didn't fight often, but I rarely enjoyed the times we did. Me trying to
set up some sort of trap with curse scrolls and earthbinding rods that never worked
and you just dishing out strikes of faith and me growing tired of it all and just
buffeting.

Floriyase: I don't think we ever got to fight mano a mano, it was always in groups
which were more than often in your favor. Too bad. I never did see the frostshield
bash through shield of ice comming. But apparantly I was not the only victim of it.

Tcatama: I one way I enjoyed our fights, but that time you stunned me outside the
fortress with two arcanes spelling me up and some other warrior joining in on the
fun to just gang me beyond recognition with a following loot of almost all armor
I just lost respect for you. Though the fault was must as much mine for lingering
there too long.

Warders:
We seldom fought as you too were too busy with Empire while we were busy with the
village.

Pelthaas: We did fight a few times, most often you with alot of others fighting
me. I think a major flaw in your tactics is to START with thornheart. Then you
tell your opponent when he needs to flee. You should start with some other maledicts
such as primordial vengeance which is very cool (having experienced it myself)
and very nasty. And perhaps dish out some damage or even entangles and then pull
out the rest.

And how it sucked that time when your arcane held me beyond recognition from 1.2k
hp down to death while you just pummeled me. And then you full looted. I was
frustrated after that for sure.

No matter, there are many whom I have forgotten and if you're one of them be sure to
post a reply and I'll post my comments. For now I have to decide what to do next.

Farewell for now.
/Karnif/Trien/Omian/Thyladanieth/Abgaakij/Farion and many others.

Well, regardless of whether or not you respected me or not, I liked Vanar and had fun going against him.

Regarding fighting you outside the fortress, I'm not really sure what your problem is there. You raided (or were about to raid), and then wanted a prepless *felar* warrior *squire* to fight an *invoker* in the *mountains* solo? I'm sorry my friend; I'll do it if I have to, but if I can call for help in that situation I most certainly will. I highly doubt I took more than a piece or two (if any) of your gear, and seeing as that was before locate object changed, I'm sure a couple quick spells could have confirmed that.

Take it easy and remember that being a nice guy doesn't mean fighting stupid. I've lost countless sets of beautiful gear raiding the chasm. I've been ganked so hard by imperial it's sick. I've lost everything fighting players who just plain have more skill than me, and you know what? The fun of fighting is worth the annoyance of having to spend an hour or two reequipping.

Broghelan is not an Honor guy and never will be. He is all about courage and this has links with honor but not strong links. Broghelan only ever outnumbered foes inside cabals unless it was outside the village and I can count on one hand the number of times that he was involved in a gang fight with you and that is including me and one or two others Versus you and Zaknafir in the chasm. I am shocked that you think of him as a ganger. As for the eq, villagers I think lied to me when I had told them to return things and as I do not have peek I could not say for definite. I wont ever full loot anyone I fight unless it is an asshole character like Skallgrim and that will only be the once. If you dont full loot the person you fight they WILL come and try try again and that is what makes the game fuin for everyone and apart from the marans forcing your hand into looting me that one time in the chasm I respected you for it. Anyway, I have enjoyed fighting many of your incarnations over the years in one form or another.

Look forward to our next encounter.

Broghelan's platyer.

P.S. I am not too pleased about you 'outing' my tat here btw.

You were always a stand up guy, and I respected that. I loved it when the Chasm held the head (what few times) I think that is when a Rager shines bright. We had some good brawls and I still hate the fact you were not rewarded for your bravery. Here was my view on everything Scion and Village. We have no one to raid, so more mistakes happened when they shouldn't. You along with many other Scions were alone fighting three cabals, which blows. So I think the ones that "tried" to do something to raid/defend/gain back item should at least gotten some good attention. In my eyes you were a Berserker in a room full of skinny chess players. =p

Take care, and thanks for all the positive words.

later.

Hey..

I remember that there was an invoker in the mist, but that it was you came as a surprise. My memory is wasted.
Anyway we both played during the same hours often and there was little i could do against you. Invokers are my worst match up by far.

The barehanded angelswing tactic as you wanted me to try is just a waste of time outside raid situation in my opinion ( it works so seldom), but what do i know?!?
And you are right that during european hours we have more than enough with the empire. They all work in the danish road department.
Anyway you did well and your in game taunting was quite annoying. Good thing we avenged you by slaying Broghelan that time...he bears a grudge for a long time obviously..hahaha .

Good luck on your next...

"How can one million goblins be wrong?"

It seem to me the obvious tactic against an invoker is to put curse on him with wrath, then barehand angelswing. Then return to the wrath and keep spamming as it does the most damage. Of course, that is all in theory.

Is you'll break their jaw about 1 in 3 attempts. When you do, it doesn't seem to last more than a tick. As a dwarf vulnerable to geyser that's asking a lot. As a storm giant it's a slightly safer strategy. Against a moderately competent invoker, try it once if it fails, be prepared to get out of there.

An intelligent invoker, always enjoyed having you around. We did quite a lot of wading into enemies together as well as a lot of reequipping together. My playing times have become erratic lately, meaning I am playing at different times than I usually do, therefore missing people I usually see. When I do play I play for large chunks of time.

Conjurers, especially evil conjurers are a hit and miss kind of group. You get a black devil and you are useless for quite a long time. You get an ice devil, and you can go wading, especially with a razor elemental and a nightwalker. Wands are an unfortunate MUST with evil conjurers as is an endless supply of money, which I want to thank you for help providing. (now I have to find another to help me with getting the endless money spot.) You have to play them very carefully, and the long learning curve, especially with demons and devils, is...deadly to say the least, heh.

I did dislike how you openly made comments about conjuration and the black abasshi devils. Granted I did not have a conjurer since Scion first came in when I switched over from Empire, but I have consistantly gotten ice devils and hooded demons conjuring in cabalhalls. Usually when you saw me with a devil was either I pushed the "magic number" limit too far or had a bad roll, which no one can predict, or conjuring quick for dealing with constant raids. I will tell you that I didn't find it very entertaining or amusing as Chancellor. I was glad you didn't push it any farther after the warning I gave you.

But all in all, a very well played invoker and a deadly bastard to have on Team Evil (tm)'s side.

A side note, I remember Thladanieth and your little "lightning up your spine" emotes you did while casting spells. I was fighting you as a rager at the time (name to be stated at another time) and I always enjoyed dirting your archon then lagging you out through your emotes . Granted any other mage class it would have been instant death, but as a conjurer, you know, you are not doing the work, others are, so it wasn't that big of a deal. That was a good character too.

Also, if you make a rager, I will have to beat you around the head and neck area. Ragers already have too many numbers and no cabals to fight but Scion, and right now ragers gang unendlessly like no tommorrow, and what is worse is that they do it with Sylvans and Fortress without thought. I tried to get a fair fight out of one rager and he ends up hiring out a magic using warrior to come help kill me, *boggle*, don't make a rager unless you are going to become leader and purge a couple choice ones, and you know who I'm talking about.

Take care and good luck.

That Zafnafir took that position with ease. The only invoker I really fought were You, Zaknafir and Kelrizza I believe there name is. Really well played, I liked you a lot.

BattleCharmed

The secret man, you know who you are: Thanks for the barrier wand there, it kept me
trucking for another few sessions against the village. Then I believe it ended up with
the healer next to the destructor. A pity. But it helped alot to have it again. Seem
you've stopped showing along with the others. No good, you played it very well.

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Yea, I was gone for the last 3 weeks, playing once or twice a week due to end of year uni exams. The last char I played was tat'ed and I deleted due to exams, so this time I said I'll wait it out and see how it goes. I'm back on an irregular basis now, so my peeps should be hopefully seeing more of me.

I still remember fighting ragers with you as your nexus shifter in early 2002 I think it was, good times back when Jhyrb was commander and I would come so close to killing him in a 1v1 with no preps and would still lose. Then I would throw on some shield, stoneskin and haste and get my ass handed to me. I hated those days when as soon as I maledicted them they just did call thirst and re-wielded their weapons. Oh well, later dude, it's always a bummer to lose a skilled voker.

.El Secreto.

I am sad to see you go, I never got to test out my new abilities against
a skilled opponent yet. Though who knows maybe I will get to in the
future. Over all I thought you did an excelant job with your voker,
simply impressive to me because so very few could come close to beating
or on occassion beat me in a match. I will never forget our first two
matches at the chasm where you killed me retreaving once and I beat ya
bad right after, its that rule(any given sunday) comming into play.
Either way I will see you in the fields, hope you come back as an even
stronger enemy for fighting me, because having opponents like you is
where half of the fun as a villager comes from. You have my respect.

Darktears

I remember the whole bashing through iceshield thing... the suprise in your tone (I know... tone on CF through tells... *spends too much time playing or something*) was just... suprising. The whole thing was well executed on our side and the fact that you didn't know about it just made it worse for you. Well, you seemed a pain to fight, I never like fighting invokers... and I never have. Good job, you were tough and courageous, which I like. Hope to see your next

Sgral

Well, you helped me learn how to fight invokers - not enough can be said by that. When you initially killed me way back when I woke you up, I thought "####, here we go again". Then I just started thinking and things clicked on how to work my powers the way they should be . Fun fighting you, at least you had guts..

Thanks for not mentioning me by the way

You were an all around blast to be around. Great personality as can always be expected from your chars, great to have in a fight, and we're all going to miss you in the chasm. You've actually helped me a lot through my earlier CF days. My first character back here after a long hiatus was an invoker that I was going warlock with. Farion gave me my first interview and you were very much my role model as to what to do to be a worthwhile member of any cabal.

Looking forward to the next. Team Evil wants you back!