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Cuthul (Guest)Sat 24-May-03 11:10 PM

  
#17961, "[SCION] Cuthul the Whipping Boy of Faith"


          

It was fun there for a while. I haven't messed around with shamans for
a while--kinda funny really, everytime I delete one I have this semi-
bad flavor in my mouth because I decide I dislike the class at that
point...yet, after some time goes by, I think "Damn, Shamans just sound
COOL!" and roll one up. The class has some definite pros, but the main
drawback (for me at least) is that everything they have just seems so
stale compared to how it could be. Thieves, conjies, and warriors (to
name a few) have all sorts of style...but the poor old shaman just
seems like a dinosaur to me. But hey! I got myself into it, so don't
go thinking that I hated it!

--PK Ratio was 25 wins, 6 losses. All but one PK death were to more
than one opponent.

Goodbyes:

First and foremost, Valguarnera:
Wow, you were a damn cool cat. I've interacted with you quite a few
times, but never as a follower of your religion. I have to say, you
are one of the best that I've seen, and I just wish more people would
bite onto your religion (unless there are oodles right now). Sorry I
never finished that quest, but I'll be damned if I didn't try VERY
hard to do it. I wrote notes and held secret meetings with several
people to make sure it went smoothly...but as we know now, it never
went anywhere. I hope that pans out in some form...and hey, maybe
you'll keep my plans alive for that one city alive. *wink wink*

Ghuljun:
I think I respected you immediately. It takes some brass to use a lich
in the way you do (drawbacks included), and you do it well, I believe.
I really did want to do something with the golems...but just because
I'm gone it doesn't mean that it can't still happen. Thanks again for
putting your confidence in me, and I'm sorry I had to bail...but what
point is there when it's no longer fun, right? Anyway, hang in there
til' D-Day...you're not going to age-die or anything, and with your
style you could keep on rolling, I think.

Ulzoth:
You will be missed. I want to see a Drow Lich, damnit! Liked your
pleasantly unpleasant Drowish attitude, and your gravitation towards
all things macabre. Don't quit on us now!

Huromhaur:
Really wanted to hurt you at first, and the damned moo-talk didn't
help. But I appreciate anyone who sticks to RP quirks (such as your
racism =p), even when they cause quite a bit of friction with would-be
allies. It shows that you've got some cojones as well. I've got no
problem leaving you the shamanic duties, my friend.

Zharaluzar:
I guess the chair is all yours now :-P Show up more and this cabal
might actually have a fighting chance. It's great when you are around.

Imperials:
Asswipes, generally. I don't like gang-banging ####s, but I do see the
rp angle for it, considering your cabal. I almost always hunt alone,
or with only one other (and that's only when the target needs to be
lagged!), and you guys seemed hell-bent on "bitching-out" whenever you
had any confrontations...whether that meant calling down the horde on
me, or getting a trib to come in and flag me while you made my night
walker hit you. Sure, fine tactics I guess...but pretty wimpy, in my
book. Just a news flash though...you guys are going to get raped by
the Scions from now on, and I hope you're prepared for it.

Cuthul of Nrozgen, the Broken Clan, signing off.

  

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Reply RE: [SCION] Cuthul the Whipping Boy of Faith, Zargu, 26-May-03 04:14 AM, #14
Reply Sorry man, sorry..., Kertaki (Guest), 25-May-03 06:14 PM, #10
Reply Don't be., Cuthul (Guest), 25-May-03 06:31 PM, #11
Reply This is too bad, Wilhath, 25-May-03 03:01 PM, #6
Reply RE: Out of context., Cuthul (Guest), 25-May-03 03:40 PM, #7
     Reply Ganging has always been and will always be, Wilhath, 25-May-03 03:51 PM, #8
     Reply Never disagreed on that. n/t, Cuthul (Guest), 25-May-03 05:41 PM, #9
     Reply Lets review the timeline., Knipit (Guest), 25-May-03 07:53 PM, #12
          Reply So you want to flame? Thanks for dirtying the farewell,..., Cuthul (Guest), 25-May-03 09:51 PM, #13
Reply RE: SO close, yet so far. Need more evil hero's!, GinGa, 25-May-03 06:44 AM, #4
Reply RE: [SCION] Cuthul the Whipping Boy of Faith, Imperial (Guest), 25-May-03 02:40 AM, #3
Reply RE: [SCION] Cuthul the Whipping Boy of Faith, Kriack (Guest), 25-May-03 01:24 AM, #2
Reply RE: [SCION] Cuthul the Whipping Boy of Faith, jaynus, 25-May-03 01:23 AM, #1
     Reply What happened there? n/t, Cuthul (Guest), 25-May-03 12:16 PM, #5

ZarguMon 26-May-03 04:14 AM
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#17982, "RE: [SCION] Cuthul the Whipping Boy of Faith"
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Zharaluzar:
I guess the chair is all yours now :-P Show up more and this cabal
might actually have a fighting chance. It's great when you are around.

...

I know that i havent been around as much as i would like to, but i as well have a life besides CF. Work demands quite a few hours of my day these weeks, and i like spending some time with my child as well...

You shouldnt have quit the other night, me and Ghuljun would have ranked you and Huromhaur, but alas..

/Zharaluzar

  

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Kertaki (Guest)Sun 25-May-03 06:14 PM

  
#17971, "Sorry man, sorry..."
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I really have no idea where you were going with that "task" you kept asking of me. I tried at least 5 times to no avail and I never got around to writing that note because I was too busy with certain imperial necromancers.... No idea where you were going with this char and what you were asking of me, but sorry for letting you down

-Kertaki

  

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Cuthul (Guest)Sun 25-May-03 06:31 PM

  
#17972, "Don't be."
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I am suprised anyone was even interested in attempting, and in truth,
I managed to get three different people (over a long period of time)
to make an attempt. As far as what the mission was about, I'd prefer
if you kept that under wraps...and the fact that you were clueless, as
you said, about the whole thing, and Cuthul, means I was doing it
correctly

Anyway, thanks again, and it ain't your fault that certain Imms are
ridiculously difficult to contact

  

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WilhathSun 25-May-03 03:01 PM
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#17967, "This is too bad"
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The hero range is going to need more evil to achieve parity and although you were in an enemy cabal, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. I'd actually like to see a relatively strong Scion once I make it to hero. I think it will allow for a lot of good RP opportunities and would perhaps make sure that there are at least some enemies to fight when evil finally rises to power.

As for your rant on Imperial ganging squads: They're almost necessary to live at this point. Fortressfolk run in packs, Warders run in packs, Warlocks run in packs, even those that don't run in packs have backup one cb/gt away including myriad air forms, healers, et cetera. You're not entirely without blame yourself. Last night you and Huromhaur were running around with nightwalkers and druk'tar summoning like maniacs.

Sometimes you just have to assess the situation and take the necessary measures. When you know you can't win you stock up on teleport and return potions and quaff them like they are the last liquids on the planet.

  

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Cuthul (Guest)Sun 25-May-03 03:40 PM

  
#17968, "RE: Out of context."
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>As for your rant on Imperial ganging squads: They're almost
>necessary to live at this point. Fortressfolk run in packs,
>Warders run in packs, Warlocks run in packs, even those that
>don't run in packs have backup one cb/gt away including myriad
>air forms, healers, et cetera. You're not entirely without
>blame yourself. Last night you and Huromhaur were running
>around with nightwalkers and druk'tar summoning like maniacs.

No, that crap is never necessary. It always begins with one guy who,
for whatever reason, decides he needs his chums to help him kill a
person who they would probably have a chance against solo. Of course,
the guy who got ganged and full-looted can either work his way up
again with crap gear and (in my case) a virtual ####load of enemies,
or he can grab an ally and attempt to get some vengeance, which is
the most efficient method as far as time and landing the kill against
the (now) much better armed opponent. Unless some code were implemented
to keep every fight one-on-one (which would obviously be bad and nigh-
impossible in some cases), there will always be the opportunists. It
is, however, sad that ANY members of the cabals you mentioned use gang
tactics, because in truth, they are absolutely not necessary. And as
for last night....really, what are you talking about? I recall you
singing me to sleep, and I was _alone_. You had a mace spec and a
spear spec waiting to gang me once I woke up. Considering I was still
recovering from a recent Imperial gang (what do ya know?!), and we
had both a healer and shaman present...what did you think I would do?
Maybe happily be ganged down again? No, I don't think so. As for
running around with Huromhaur, that's really untrue. It can be said
for every current Scion that we prefer to hunt alone. You may see us
walking around together sometimes, but it usually is just that we ran
into each other when we were hunting. Of course, sometimes when some
fidgety Imperial just runs and runs every time he's summoned, it is
nice to have another shaman there

>Sometimes you just have to assess the situation and take the
>necessary measures. When you know you can't win you stock up
>on teleport and return potions and quaff them like they are
>the last liquids on the planet.

This I know, but it still ain't easy to avoid 9+ Imperials.

  

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WilhathSun 25-May-03 03:51 PM
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#17969, "Ganging has always been and will always be"
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Short of a spontaneous shift in the sociological patterns of the CF community nothing is going to end gangbanging. I could go into a protracted discussion on why gangbanging exists, but it probably would not help matters any.

I'm not interested in getting into a flamewar, or even an extended debate, with this forum handle so suffice it to say that we saw different things including the exact events as they unfolded 3 rooms west of Hamsah Mu'Tazz.

In any event, having one less Scion around makes Wilhath sad.

  

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Cuthul (Guest)Sun 25-May-03 05:41 PM

  
#17970, "Never disagreed on that. n/t"
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Knipit (Guest)Sun 25-May-03 07:53 PM

  
#17973, "Lets review the timeline."
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Here's the chronology of things as they fit into your scheme:

1) Lao and I caught you with fly down, and tripped you to death. We returned what we didn't need, my gesture of respect.

2) You summoned me from the palace, Ulzoth slept me, Zuhladyn held me, and I died. You got your things back and full looted my things.

3) Same thing happened as I was running to get black roots, naked.

4) Gherian had immolated me and it would have killed me, so I attacked yuou with 100 hp left. At convulsing you landed the kill. You looted my bone-bladed gythka and desert cloaks.

5) Ulzoth got caught by myself, Lao, Crasner, and a transmuter. He died, and was full looted (for full looting me).

6) You were manacled, and died to the same group on the ocean. You were full looted (for full looting me).

Our actions at 1) indicated a willingness to act respectfully (2-1 with unneeded equipment returned)

Your actions at 2) indicated your reaction of above respect by utilizing unnecessary force and full looting.

Your actions at 3) confirmed your actions at 2).

Your looting of trivial re-equiping items at 4) continued your course.

Actions by Imperials at 5) and 6) were payback for 2-4.


I've got nothing against ganging, but I do have something against hypocracy. You were equiping from an "imperial gang" due to your own damn fault, so don't play the 'holier than thou' card.


  

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Cuthul (Guest)Sun 25-May-03 09:51 PM

  
#17974, "So you want to flame? Thanks for dirtying the farewell,..."
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>1) Lao and I caught you with fly down, and tripped you to
>death. We returned what we didn't need, my gesture of
>respect.

You returned a few things, true, but kept a ton of #### that neither
of you used. And I never said anything about the full-looting. Fact of
life.

>2) You summoned me from the palace, Ulzoth slept me, Zuhladyn
>held me, and I died. You got your things back and full looted
>my things.

You had companions all around. It wasn't a three on one...it was you,
Lao, and the imperial shaman (who could all harm me, and tried). They
were inside the palace at the time. That's called a fair fight.

>3) Same thing happened as I was running to get black roots,
>naked.
>
>4) Gherian had immolated me and it would have killed me, so I
>attacked yuou with 100 hp left. At convulsing you landed the
>kill. You looted my bone-bladed gythka and desert cloaks.

These two are not in sequence. You, Lao, and the shaman summoned me
out of the Chasm when I was there solo, cranialed me so I was knocked
out, spelled me up...then you got immolated I guess (I was sleeping),
I woke up to all three of you on just me...I fled, you tried a last
desperate attempt to kill me and I landed a demonfire that killed you.
I have the logs if you need them posted. Damn right I looted you,
considering that you three were chasing me all over the place, and I
was still poorly dressed. You were slept and spelled-up on eastern
later on, which was kinda your fault since I believe you were sleeping
before I ever got there....which must have meant that Ulzoth summoned
you to a place with no "east" or "west" while you were direction-spamming
and landed the sleep.

>5) Ulzoth got caught by myself, Lao, Crasner, and a
>transmuter. He died, and was full looted (for full looting
>me).
>
>6) You were manacled, and died to the same group on the ocean.
>You were full looted (for full looting me).

No, the group went from two of you to four, once the bard and the
transmuter joined in.

>Our actions at 1) indicated a willingness to act respectfully
> 2-1 with unneeded equipment returned)

You guys were social in the Inn and tripped me when I walked out. It
was a chance that I shouldn't have taken, but it was treachery on your
part nonetheless. I'm not knocking the treachery...that's fine, but
how do you expect a pissed-off duergar shaman to respond?

>Your actions at 2) indicated your reaction of above respect by
>utilizing unnecessary force and full looting.

Unnecessary my ass. You guys had my back against the wall. With the
tons and tons of Imperials around, and me with no gear, I managed to
gather the two people that might be interested in helping kill all
of you.

>Your actions at 3) confirmed your actions at 2).

Your continual attempts to gang me warranted it. Even after that night
of carnage, no Imperial, other than Faeras, even tried it alone for
long. It was always "cb Cuthul is at so-and-so, all ten of you come
and help me kill him."

>Your looting of trivial re-equiping items at 4) continued your
>course.

See the last comment.

>Actions by Imperials at 5) and 6) were payback for 2-4.

Everything I did was payback.

>I've got nothing against ganging, but I do have something
>against hypocracy. You were equiping from an "imperial gang"
>due to your own damn fault, so don't play the 'holier than
>thou' card.

Never said that dying to you and Lao wasn't my fault. If you had read
my explanation and thoughts on ganging within my post, you'd know that
I wasn't "covering up" my own gathering of troops to fight back. The
point is that you all left me little-to-no choice in the matter.
Go on with some ####ty re-equip stuff and cross my fingers in the hope
that I might actually catch one of you alone (which rarely, rarely
happened, and it never lasted), or get together some man-power and
get some revenge. Hmm...lemme think...

I never played the holier than thou card, pal. And you can kiss my ass
for playing the "hypocracy card."

  

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GinGaSun 25-May-03 06:34 AM
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#17965, "RE: SO close, yet so far. Need more evil hero's!"
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Edited on Sun 25-May-03 06:44 AM

  

          

Shame you didn't hero, I had half an eye on you.

  

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Imperial (Guest)Sun 25-May-03 02:40 AM

  
#17964, "RE: [SCION] Cuthul the Whipping Boy of Faith"
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Just a news flash though...you guys are going to get
>raped by
>the Scions from now on, and I hope you're prepared for it.
>
>
>Cuthul of Nrozgen, the Broken Clan, signing off.


Yeah Sure. I will believe that one when your Lich can beat our healer one on one. Sad innit?



  

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Kriack (Guest)Sun 25-May-03 01:24 AM

  
#17963, "RE: [SCION] Cuthul the Whipping Boy of Faith"
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Hello there.

I thought I would at least get a goodbye in your message, seeing as you and I interacted quite alot (at least I'd like to think so). When I found out you were in Scion, I kind of groaned, realizing I would have to fight you someday. I thought I would come to arms against you wayyy back in the early stages because you found out I had your axe (yes, I took it from the thief, yes he had it, heh its fun being a duergar!). However, you ignored that and continued to 'use' me in a way that a knowledge hungering Scion would. I think you deserved that cabal, sad to see you go though - I wanted to finish our fight we had on Eastern.

Well, good luck with your next and I hope I interact with you again!

ps = Sorry I lost your note




  

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jaynusSun 25-May-03 01:22 AM
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#17962, "RE: [SCION] Cuthul the Whipping Boy of Faith"
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Edited on Sun 25-May-03 01:23 AM

  

          

nt

  

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Cuthul (Guest)Sun 25-May-03 12:16 PM

  
#17966, "What happened there? n/t"
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n/t

  

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