Tue Jan 21 10:55:22 2003


11 o''clock PM, Day of the Bull, 15th of the Month of the Old Forces on the Theran calendar Aginal perished, never to return.

I'm not sorry about facing you alone.. We both know it's (I daresay) impossible to kill an invoker as a bard and it's just so easy to kill a bard as an invoker, even when fiended.. drat those damn elemental shields.. I know you considered me as an annoying bug, but hell, I loooooove being an annoying little bug .. anyways, Aginal was a beast, and not only from a bard's point of view .. See you around ..

Tarnyxil

You were. Annoying. SOOOOO annoying. It was great. Whenever you were around I knew I would have someone to try and chase/defend from all damn night. I don't think I ever managed to kill you solo, although not for lack of trying. Something to be said for perma-sneak. I almost feel bad for all those shatters... *chuckle* See ya around

"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." - Jimi Hendrix

I was wondering if you would be willing to share your affinity with us?

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"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." - Jimi Hendrix

Really sucks to see ya go, I was happy when I first ran into you because I knew who you probably were.. Thinking we might just have a chance at putting scions on the offensive a bit more. You did a great job when you came around, you usually changed the tide from mearly getting the scepter back to raiding the enemy. I don't think eveyone fully understands how much preperation in both spells/gathering it takes to fight off the huge Alliance of enemies that Scions have.

Every cabal has a clear set and attainable goal, a way to please the imms of that cabal so to speak..
Ragers - Kill mages
Sylvan - Kill un-naturals
Maran - Kill evils
Warlock - Kill evil mages
Scions - Do something to bring the night (When the exact something hasn't been determined)

I don't know what else a soldier can do when his leader hasn't given him orders, protect the homefront? And what can you do but fight if you have at least 4 cabals who's only day to day tasks involve trying to kill you?

I guess these are questions that a person needs to answer before he or she rolls up a scion. I defenenty havn't figured them out yet

Great job Aginal see ya around, hopefully we'll be allies again sometime..

-Kamandee

If you didnt talk, had a role ect.. How come you ended up with you lastname?? I mean, you must have done something?

Both my characters had lastnames. WHy did they get them? Hell if I know. Maybe PK skill is enough to earn a last name if you don't go way into no RP. I did talk. I just didn't go out of my way looking for a conversation. I never sat at the inn...although I rarely attacked in the inn either. Most of my characters never have, and I generally leave heralds be even outside the inn. But ya, no role, no extensive RP. Lastnames. *shrug* WOuld have to asks the imm(s) who gave me them.

"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." - Jimi Hendrix

Arials... perma-fly. Cool. Finding things for face, feet, and about body. Uncool. Felars get the love for anatomically correctness...although, I have to say, if they are bird like...why do they have wings AND arms/hands? And hydrophobia...birds are not particularlly afraid of water. Anyone hear of ducks? Bird-baths? Pelicans? Etc etc etc... Just my two cents. I expect change back.

"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." - Jimi Hendrix

What is your race?

arial

What type of arial you are: duck-like, eagle-like, owl-like, parrot-like (affects your speech)?

Choose by beak type, it is the distinuishing factor of birds. My description had the short hooked beak, the one of birds of prey. I thought it apt anyways. But the point was, with VERY few exceptions, birds are not afraid of water per se, and quite a few can be found in it quite regularlly besides the obvious ducks/flamingos/pelicans. Oh...that's my next character...arial with bright pink feathers and a leg up in the air all the time. How's that for the zany RP angle?

"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." - Jimi Hendrix

Dam where do I start, You sacing near 10-15 resist cold items from my corpse was a super pisser. Time and time again You hosed me and I felt like a uncabaled rager, I think I baned maybee two of your spells in about 80 or so. Even so I still stacked heavy hp/saves/resist just so I might actually put a dent in you. You were always around the corner and came and blicked me when I was fighting others.

There was that one fight that I ran all over galadon, all over the place and then hid in the nospell/commune/cabal power room. Fought you there and your elec shield was doing more damage through resist than your cones of cold were prior... bs shield real bs. Your proged eq for some funny reason was still working, heals from pendants and cubes and such... Indeed nasty stuff.

Even though I died I didnt feel like I had lost. Just living that long was a huge achievement to me. I've played a uncabaled invoker and just totaly eaten up ragers. Even tiger clawed and just hasted/resisted relyin on proged eq to kill then and touchs.

The last time I saw you was on eastern. After that felar fight I would have stuck around to fight you, cept that there were two others there another invoker and a healer. Hard enough killin 1 invoker, but two with mass healing isnt anygood.

As others commented, I knew you with priors, and you should try mixing it up. Pk % isnt the world. Hell this current character Im trying the extremes of everything that I can possibly concieve. Seeing where the immortals draw the line for all sorts of things. Sometimes I know I stuff up badly other times I sit there and just stare in amazement at what the immortals allow.

Just rember its a game and its supposed to be fun, not boring.

Hope to see you around.

Not sure exactly what "blicked" is, but I'll asume attacked or what not. I'm not above the gang-bangs, but I tried to go solo when I could. Sometimes I'd just walk right past enemies too. Just wanted to watch that fight between you and the felar...thought about giving him a hand, but decided since you had been a brave opponent, I'd let you go with the fight you had. By the way, those other two weren't with me. The no-magic room...that was a blast. The PK ratio...35% on Vizzial and 88% on Aginal. I would ardly say ratio matters to me, as long as I had good fights along the way. I do try mixing it up a bit...but I just can't get into a goodie, and neutrals seem a chore. My elf sylvan invoker was fun for about five minutes, a hardship the rest. I suffer from short attention spans I suppose. It's why I don't play the longer-lived races I suppose, I'd never age die.

"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." - Jimi Hendrix

just wondering since that's the only place I've heard that term

... probably picked it up from there.
Yes I was a mud addict back then hehe.

Mind showing me your affinity? (default?)

Air, fire, water & lightning 6
ooze 5
earth & ice 4

"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." - Jimi Hendrix

We had fun. Though, I'm sure, we could have even more fun. You seemed skilled, and bee fearful - I laughted in disgust when. soon as you logged in, hordes of sylvan/ragers suddenly logged off. I see, why Intornan left the village. Pity that our trip didn't happen.
About notes... ##### it. I tried to do the work, since no one else bothered to. I got cool reward, so, ##### it. My last scion, and, likely, last character (at least, for the year 2003).

*chuckle* Well, if you're having fun, go with it. I only enjoyed myself in spurts lately. The notes...well, it gave me something to ready anyway.

"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." - Jimi Hendrix

ahh the scions are gonna miss ya.. heh..
well im sure ya had no respect for my char as i just die all the time.
kept trying to practice the ellusive ressurrect skill, but ya know i never got any better.
not even learning from my mistakes.

had a blast getting my lil elven arse handed to me though. they were enjoyable fights.

You know, hadn't replied yet because I was trying to figure out which elf you were. Drew a blank. So I'll just reply to the rest. Scions missing me? Maybe, maybe not. Now that there's a chancellor, maybe they will actually get some new blood. Learning from mistakes bring something to mind, addressed to the imms. Rain of stones. Is it impossible to learn from success, or was it shielding or something interefering? With an affinity of 4 in earth, it took me roughly seven straight hours of casting it to finish it. That was with a troll amulet and slow, and only learning from mistakes. Think that is what made me not decide to finish perfecting spells.

"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." - Jimi Hendrix

heh.. well wouldn't expect ya to remember as i didn't even seem to slow you down as ya rolled over me, prolly on the way to kill someone else.

-Dimion

AH! Dimion. Ok, yes, remember you know. Elf paladin. Mmmm...well, what can I say? Typically, elven paladins are...well, weak. It takes a skilled player to make it anything else. Why I have alot of respect for Alnallander. Two ways to earn points with me however. One is skill, which few are really up to my expectations. The other is effort. Hell if I care if you fail miserablly, I just love someone trying their damnedest to do something, especially killing me. Well, trying their damnedest without being utterly idiotic about it. I think I only fought you twice. Best I can say, more preps, better familiarization with your class powers.

"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." - Jimi Hendrix

heh well you'll see in my death notice (prolly coming soon)
and ya only fought me twice as aginal lately one was with anith
the previous times were one of the many times i pissed trajeona off or silaseth and a group beat me into the dirt. heh was funny. and i think sometimes at the chasm, but there are so many people sometimes. who can tell.. well okay apparently y'all can. i can't read that fast. hehehe.

but i totally agree with your assessment there. (more on that when i die hehe)

but g'luck to your next and all ya make a really scary evil guy.

To the imm that did the sitran thing. That was just wrong. The beginning rather than the end...I hate dent.

To the imm that gave me that emote about the warlocks...it really perked my interest for a minute. Thought it would be a change...then I tried talking to the angel and in the silence thought about it...nah, I'm evil, born and bred.

"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." - Jimi Hendrix

I actually wasn't switched into the mob for that part, too busy bringing up his boys to help him. He dents on his own. Trust me, I wouldn't dent anyone's gear on purpose; I didn't even know it had happened until now. That might explain why you seemed a bit purturbed when we started out.

Sorry about that, hope you enjoyed the rest of the quest, I honestly thought more of you would die. Good job!

Wasn't sitran actually, it was two of those damn mace users. I think dent is pretty much a mob only skill. What PC is going to dent when he can do damage, and who wants to damage or destroy potential spoils? And yes, I was a bit put out. Had just helped get two people an item I had, to watch it get dented with two other things. As for the overall quest...it was my type of quest. I don't like the scavenger hunt type quests. I'm a killer, not a treasure hunter. The dying part...well, only reason the other invoker died was because she wasn't cabaled with us, otherwise would have went quicker. And as for my prize...I know it was lame and materialistic, but nothing I wanted would have been given for that quest I think.

"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." - Jimi Hendrix

I've found it pretty useful against healers that don't have a nightwalker or tons of progged items. Not to kill them, because if they come at you prepped and are smart you have no chance of that one on one. More to convince them to leave you alone. Yes you can throw out damage, but you probably can't throw out enough to kill them before they word. And they aren't exactly an offensive threat to kill you. Dent off a few items and they'll think twice about pestering you all the time.

That's just mean.

"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." - Jimi Hendrix

Of course, I think the same thing about stoneshatter, which I believe you may have used a time or two. Sometimes it just doesn't pay to be nice.

Ummm...I refuse to answer on the grounds it may incriminate me. One thing I will say...stoneshatter can be used to remove stone skin, painfully, while dent just strips a person. I suppose they still are essentially as annoying to have done to yourself.

"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." - Jimi Hendrix

And when I eventually play a mace spec it will be one that can tank, and will dent a lot. heh.

Stoneshatter isn't that annoying really. I just take off my vulnerable gear before fighting an invoker, and generally avoid stoneshatterable gear unless it is really nice.

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Level : 51 Sex : male Race : arial
Ethos : Orderly Align : Evil Class : invoker
Practices: 0 Trains : 0 Hometown : Hamsah Mu'tazz
Exp : 512900 To Level : 24350 Sphere : Revelation/Divination
Age : old, 57 years old (464 hours)
Hit Point: 468 /468 Mana : 1035 /1035 Move : 719 /719
Str : 16(16) Int : 23(23) Wis : 20(20)
Dex : 23(23) Con : 13(13) Chr : 18(18)
Carry # : 1/35 Weight : 5 lb 15 oz (Max 292 lbs)
Gold : 0 Silver : 50 Copper : 15
Wimpy : 300 hp Morale : Moderate Position : Standing
Hitroll : 1 Damroll : 4
AC pierce: 1 Armored AC bash : 1 Armored
AC slash : 0 Armored AC magic : 2 Armored
vs Spell : Not protected vs Paralysis : Not protected
vs Breath: Not protected vs Petrification: Not protected
You are affected by:
Spell: 'detect magic' for 36 hours.
Spell: 'detect invis' for 14 hours.

airshield 100%(100%) armor 100%(100%)
avalanche 100%(100%) buffet 100%(100%)
cancellation 100%(100%) channel heat 100%(100%)
charge weapon 100%(100%) conglaciation 71%( 71%)
controlled fireball 100%(100%) create spring 100%(100%)
create water 100%(100%) cyclone 100%(100%)
detect invis 100%(100%) detect magic 100%(100%)
dispel magic 100%(100%) earthquake 100%(100%)
earthshield 100%(100%) faerie fire 100%(100%)
faerie fog 100%(100%) fireball 100%(100%)
fireshield 100%(100%) forked lightning 100%(100%)
frost fingers 100%(100%) frostshield 100%(100%)
geyser 100%(100%) iceneedles 100%(100%)
iceshards 100%(100%) identify 100%(100%)
immolation 94%( 94%) improved invis 100%(100%)
infravision 100%(100%) invis 100%(100%)
lightning bolt 100%(100%) locate object 100%(100%)
pass door 100%(100%) teleport 100%(100%)
word of recall 100%(100%) dagger 80%( 80%)
mace 92%( 92%) whip 96%( 96%)
hand to hand 100%(100%) parry 100%(100%)
second attack 100%(100%) lash 71%( 71%)
fast healing 100%(100%) haggle 77%( 77%)
meditation 100%(100%) scrolls 79%( 79%)
staves 90%( 90%) wands 79%( 79%)
recall 100%(100%) trance 100%(100%)
cone of cold 100%(100%) wind wall 100%(100%)
spellcraft 100%(100%) wall of fire 100%(100%)
tsunami 100%(100%) drown 100%(100%)
icicle 100%(100%) engulf 100%(100%)
nova 100%(100%) shield of flames 100%(100%)
shocking touch 100%(100%) pillar of the heavens 100%(100%)
lightningshield 100%(100%) shield of electricity 100%(100%)
shield of winds 100%(100%) shield of waves 100%(100%)
shield of ice 100%(100%) vortex 100%(100%)
quicksand 83%( 83%) pebble to boulder 100%(100%)
stoneshatter 100%(100%) shield of earth 100%(100%)
watershield 100%(100%) incendiary cloud 79%( 79%)
noxious cloud 71%( 71%) iceslick 71%( 71%)
siltscreen 71%( 71%) dig 74%( 74%)
pen 71%( 71%) grease 100%(100%)
acidic secretion 100%(100%) adhesive web 100%(100%)
gel 100%(100%) vitriolic stream 100%(100%)
oozeshield 100%(100%) shield of slime 100%(100%)
rain of stone 100%(100%) earth ripple 100%(100%)
whispering wind 71%( 71%)

"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." - Jimi Hendrix

Well, I think I had more fun with Aginal than I did with Orinah, although in the end boredom still killed me. I suppose I could have just let him sit and come around once every week or to for ten minutes, but it's not my style. I go all out or not at all. Finally got improved invis on this invoker, which was pretty nice to have...unless you had a healer with you that couldn't see you until you were hit, then it was bad. And while I'm thinking of people with me and casting, I'd like to say something. Names. If you are going to play a character that will likely have shields cast on him, or healing and auras, or even be rescued, don't make a name that sounds like you're regurgitating a pound of nails. If I can't pronounce a name it takes me a little longer to type it, and the shields come off a bit slower, and I get alot of that person isn't here. Just and example, Merzozyauhn or Behnestekitn... Yes, exotic races, and arbled names. Anyways, forging forward...overall, it was fun until about...I don't know, I'd say a little after Anith deleted. Then I was thinking maybe being chancellor would give me something to do in the otherwise twiddling my thumbs times. Oh well. Not sure what I'll roll up next, but it won't be anything I have to do alot of practice with that's for damn sure. Maybe I'll take a poll. Onto the farewells. If you're already dead, I responded to you or I didn't and that's about it.

Nexus- I traveled with a couple of you sometimes, but not enough to make anything stand out in my mind.

Herald- See above

Grove- Well, most of you I really don't think deserve much of a mention. The only times most of you would do anything was if I was already at the bear, there was a three to one ratio in your favor, or the moon was full. Sassmi, you have a grudging respect from me, but it's really more based on your power to call a wall of thorns than anything else. Can be quite dangerous. On a side note...imms, perhaps change it soo only one hunt can be called on a person at a time? The hunt seems to say singular to me...and really, isn't two or more at once a bit of overkill?

Tower- *shrug* I hate counter-spell. I'd trade volley for it in a second.

Village- with the head...could be annoying. Without the head...too many bodies around. Drahk, bloodthirst, cranial/pincer. No idea what people call skilled about you, but that is only my opinion.

Fortress-

Alnallander, my best enemy. One hard bastard to kill. I think sneak saved you more than anything else, but it was still a blast, Your imm mort made it that much harder to stay around.

Esmi- Well, not exactly what I would consider a servant, but you had some balls, and it was fun.

Sabrian- Jack, steal, run. Not necessarily in that order.

Scion-

Thornarcrull & Desialia, two good healers, with two different personalities. Thornarcrull, you talk and write scrolls too much. Desialia...well, you're too cock-sure. To both of you...you're healers. It's what you do. Think less strike for the seas and more heal the guy getting pummeled.

Kamandee, good strong warrior. Like I said, never regretted giving you anything. Remind me of another fire axe specialist. Began with a K too...my memory is rather bad.

Shalizar, not sure why you called me master, but I tried to do what I could for you, mostly from understanding what it's like through Vizzial. You were good...just need to study more.

Huestus, sorry I won't be able to get you gloves, swords, shields, etc etc. Always try to make a beast a-p when I see one...just didn't see it working.

Jhaelryna, congradulations. Keep up with the studies.

I know I'm missing people, always have, always will. Don't feel slighted, I forget my own name alot too.

"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." - Jimi Hendrix

I never one called bloodthirst. I contribute three of my deaths to you. Airshielding an air form is just wrong and damn that improve invis. I had hoped we'd get to fight a bit more, but ##### happens.

You were a hard one to kill. You spellbaned pretty damn effectively, and critical hits are just...annoyingly painful. My one gripe is the time someone was raiding, forget who. You had died fairly recently. As soon as the archmage dies you come in and try an assassination. Thought that was just rather weak.

"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." - Jimi Hendrix

n/t

Had fun fighting you! A pain in the ass, most of the fights would be me trying to kill someone in your group rather then yourself. The fight at the fortress was fun too, too bad I didn't log it. You did get cocky there though I hope at least you repected me a "little"!!

Akrenetai

Cocky, no. Stupid, yes. My healer comes back as a ghost, gets what little I could give her, and puts herself to sleep. Right there I'm thinking, leave. But I don't. Tell you what, wrath and entwine are not a good combination to fight against. Should have just stayed in the mountains and at least tried to crush some people. And it seems shields were changed a bit too, so less protect against bashing and bearcharges than before, which made choosing the right shield a real pain in my ass. I did have a little respect for you. For effort more than anything. You were the one I always set on fire and tried to get before you ran, but seldom got too close.

"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." - Jimi Hendrix

You know you WILL kill Farnsworth, don't you?

You know, I have been looking forward to it for about a month now, and when everything was suppose to go and nothing did, I pretty much said screw it. Sorry to you Farnsworth, would have liked to stuck around for it...but anticipation of one event can't make up for everything else.

"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." - Jimi Hendrix

That even should begin at 5:00 am here. I left my girlfriend because I promised to be online and came to my office. All the time, that I've been waiting for that even to begin, I've been eaten up by my conscience. When I saw Aginal leaving... I've been ready to kill them both... besides, I got flagged because of quite unexpected lag.

And I didn't see any difference between Aginal and him. Pretty much the same character all around, no difference. Maybe that is why you are getting bored of them, or maybe not.

As to Drahk and his pincer/cranial, those are the most effective skills against invokers as a axe/mace specialist, do you expect him to dirt kick you over and over? The same goes for you, immolation/buffet and a pebble to boulder maybe at the end, same thing over and over. I wonder why people call that skill. The same thing can be said about you.

The best tactics are not always super complicated, sometimes they are very simple.

I am guessing you would say the same thing about me. Unfortunately the only time I fought you was at level 42 without the head where I did die once to your buffet and once to immolation, which did 900 points of damage, even under water and killed me and still had 6 hours on it. Nothing much a rager can do.

Was good fighting you. Same evil attitude, same evil channel. Switch it up sometime.

In regards to Drahk...no, that is his tactics. Period. Not against invokers, everyone. Yes, i use the spell most suitable to the enemy. Not going to use a wall of fire on a fire giant. As for switching it up...I do sometimes. But here's the thing, none of the other cabals interest me right now because of the politics. Sylvans shouldn't be associating with the village, marans with the village, tower with the grove. I don't really care for the nexus, and could you see me serving tea at the inn? I like the hunt, not the talks.

"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." - Jimi Hendrix

No idea who you were when I was Orinah, so I could not say how well you knew me then. As for Gre to Aginal...you didn't know me. At all. Of the village I think Melkorath and Saubatyam(sp) are the only ones I have really spoken with. So to say you knew I did this that and the otherthing is bs, and the only comparision you can draw is how I fought. Competency doesn't necessarily link two characters together.

"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." - Jimi Hendrix

Sayangu, not Saubaytam. Sorry Sayangu.

"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." - Jimi Hendrix

There you are wrong. You spoke to Gre for long enough for me to know exactly who you were. You had the same optimal equipment, the same unending desire for the stoneform amulet, same speaking style, and, in fact, the same exact "insults and comments" Orinah used, verbatim, word for word. You had the exact same attitude and fighting style as well. As for your role, I hope it was different, but since we didn't speak extensively on the subject, I don't know. I just knew that after our first interaction, probably within the 1st couple tells/says, I said to myself, "Thats Orinah".

I don't know if it is good or bad, just thought it was interesting. Same killer instinct, same insults, same thirst for blood, and the same exact ability at an invoker (which I will say is good to extremely good, top level stuff).

Same evil time, same evil channel. Nothing more.

And just to tell you, travelled with Karel as well so when you switched to invokerhood, it was just switchin spell sets, same evil time, same evil channel. Good luck to you.

Here was my role for Aginal:

Here was my role for Orinah:

Ya, that were pretty similiar. I didn't RP. For those that said something to the effect they thought I RPed a good evil character...no, that's just my real personality. I didn't have a "lust" for the stoneform amulet, I actually traded it away. Was just nifty to have...like most of the things I liked to collect. Before Quimo died, he had alot of the things I ended up collecting. Did that make him Orinah too? As for bloodlust...ask some of the scions how many times I berated them for being bloodthirsty, not stopping to figure out who someone was before just attacking. As for insults and comments...I only recall speaking to you twice. Once to the effect you needed to get out and learn a bit more, the other, right after you died, to welcome you to my reach. I don't have a list of insults/comments taped to my screen. I just say what I feel. Basically comes down to three or four comments with just different words. Good job/nice fight, that was weak/you suck, that was bs/funny, beat it kid you're bothering me. Speaking style? What speaking style? Beyond aye and nay, my speaking style is current english (non-slang) that tends to be grammatically correct. I don't talk like I'm chewing on a rock? Well, if I'm smart enough to cast spells, you think I would have to pronounce them correctly too. I don't doubt that there is no end of connections between to two characters, I just debate the "knowing" me part beyond a few very common facts. Few people took the time to say anything to me beyond the obvious, you're going to die bs, and you were no exception.

"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." - Jimi Hendrix

I didn't have time to speak to you and your interactions with me were exactly as you said, berrating me to learn more and get bigger so you can kill me and the "welcome to my reach" taunt. Those are great, thanks for creating a great opportunity to roleplay. You keep pushing the "lack of roleplay" on other people even though you didn't even participate in it, in fact negated it. Man you are bitter and what you don't even understand is that it is you who is at fault for most of what you are complaining about.

Ease up. And needless to say, I called it right.

I'm not ragging on you for lack of interaction with me, rather the fact you presume with so little information. I don't care if people RP or not, so long as they don't go so far into non-RP as to discuss what's on TV or what not. Point out one post where I pushed "lack of roleplay" on people. Lack of skill, sure. Ask me for advice on how to improve it, I'll give it. I'm a numbers person for the most part, not a social one. I fail to see exactly how I negated RP however. You speak to me, I'll talk back for the most part. Some of the best times I've had was talking to Phylanthorin, even if it wasn't exactly my cup of tea.

"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." - Jimi Hendrix

I had no idea who you were untill I got inducted with my current char. From there I knew it was you. I wanted to try and tag along with you again to ease some of my own boredom.

-Dranolian

I have no idea who your character is. I'll say this though, I tried to make Vizzial like you were...don't think I quite pulled it off.

"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." - Jimi Hendrix

Tried to make him like me? In what way? I tried to make Dranolian like Orinah. I find this all quite funny.

-Dranolian

You were just a damn good transmuter. Knew what to cast, when to cast it, who to cast it on, no prompting needed. You also seemed able to see alot despite the limitations of duo, which I could never quite get without continously popping out due to forgeting the limitations. You also seemed able to solo alot more than me, which except maybe for shamans and other trannies, wouldn't go so well.

"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." - Jimi Hendrix

With Dranolian I had a really sick set of gear and quite a few hps about 1300. I also had a solid source for aura. The people I soloed I would wait untill the right moment pop and finish them. As far as knowing what to cast when to cast it. I had good people around me who didn't need instruction as well. Things work well when you have good people to work with.

-Dranolian

I had about 1000 hp with Vizzial without despoiling...1600 was the most I had with. I had aura, shield sources...I just wasn't a patient person to sit and wait for someone to start fighting something or sleep. And yes, competent people as always SOOOOO nice.

"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." - Jimi Hendrix

I liked fighting your previous charactors. Now I know why.....you make the game fun. People that sit around waiting for things to happen make me sick. You always go for the offensive approach which is the best way.

Its a real eye opener playing alongside 'evil bastards' like you. I cant believe I played so many lightwalkers now. 99% of lightwalkers ive cabaled with/traveled with, have no clue.....

Play another anti-paladin.....we need another Karel.

Take care, it was fun.

Thanks. Like I said, you were great to travel with, but even better to fight. As for an a-p...eh, I don't know. My last characters were invoker, transmuter, healer, a-p, invoker, warrior, shifter, a-p, shifter... So looking for something different perhaps.

"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." - Jimi Hendrix

>Thanks. Like I said, you were great to travel with, but even
>better to fight. As for an a-p...eh, I don't know. My last
>characters were invoker, transmuter, healer, a-p, invoker,
>warrior, shifter, a-p, shifter... So looking for something
>different perhaps.

How about a necromancer, or a conjurer (evil of course). I think you could do quite well with either. Or, if you're feeling particularly adventurous, pick some class or combo that is rarely picked. Like a trapper thief. Or a poisoner thief. One of those might keep you entertained.

I also must throw out a suggestion for picking a new flavor or style for your new character, whatever you decide to go with. Your character doesn't have to have a speech impediment if he's a giant or dwarf, but some type of role and quirks that give your character a distinct and realistic feel for his race/class. As an example, personalized exclamations are good. Like the first time one of my characters ate a newt and threw up right in front of a fire giant who exclaimed something like, "Zulghinlour's Fiery Balls!". Very stylish. Or possibly something really unique and off-the-wall for this one character. From my own experience, I've found that roles that are more straightforward and easier to communicate are generally more fun to play than overly complex and indepth ones. At least, for me.

Only throwing out suggestions since you said something about taking a poll to see what you wanted to play next. Thanks for listening, and hope you have fun with whatever char you go with.

Hutto, with sleepy thoughts from the peanut gallery.

Hutto

I was completely serious. Most suggestions wins. Haven't played a necro past 20 since they had acid blast, so that might be a blast. But as everyone knows, would need to do a hell of a lot with my RP just to get a lich quest. Conjurer is the one class I have NEVER played. I have no idea why, usually after I delete one PC i think about rolling a conjie...but never seem to. *shrug* As for the flavor and style...I am going to try and change it a bit. Although there was two characters between Aginal and Vizzial. Byrgan, an evil paladin that I got to about the 23rd rank. Spoke to Zulghinlour once and just said eh, no thanks. And a cloud warrior I was going to go battle with who was mute sort of. Could speak, but never did. Think silent bob, and I know that is a bit immature for my age, but I like stupid stoner movies. Right until I saw how the village was going and said screw that. So keep the suggestions coming.

"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." - Jimi Hendrix

I hated you so much! What can a uncaballed felar warrior do against a invoker that is as skilled as you.

Agnial has arrived.
Aginals Immolation Oblit you
Aginals Geyser do UNSPEAK to you
The cube of force lag you.
Aginals Geyser kill you.

Would think the frist two would have killed you... Cabals aren't everything...but a non-rager felar warrior really should run just as fast as he can when an enemy invoker is near. Still would love to know how many times my immolation caught up and killed someone. That is hands down my favorite spell.

"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." - Jimi Hendrix

You, me, Thornacrull and later Anith made for some pretty quick learning. Never seen an invoker tanking 6 kidiana storm giants for a warrior before.

That's something I won't miss. I could easily have heroed again with all the giants I helped everyone with. I was usually the tank as well, which is fine, I took blows in most PK situations as well. It's a hard choice between sitting around and being bored, and the endless tedious repition of killing storm giants. I think my next character is going to sit at level 20 or something for about three years, just so I don't have to rank.

"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." - Jimi Hendrix

Bah! None never remember Chieftain! Lots fun kill lots Sylvan and Maran and elfs with Aginal. Not lots good, Aginal go. Need be back lots soon. Kill more with Chieftain!

Sorry, why I put the disclaimer at the end of my post for people I forgot. Orc chiefs are always a trip. They can get beat on one moment, suddenly turn it around with a savage feeding. I remember my orc...eh...Hzarith or some such?...it was always some fun with a horde. Maybe I'll make another one, take the chieftain spot... j/k

"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." - Jimi Hendrix

Well done all the way around Aginal. From the first time we fought I knew that I was facing a better player than myself. Between you and anith you brought a bit of flavor to a downtrodden chasm and made many start looking over their shoulder again. I think in the last fifteen or so battles we had I got to hear that lovely song from your mace every time. I hope to see you about in the fields in yet another form soon enough. Ahh...and since you played Vizz as well I am amazed I escaped from so many of your traps. Well played on both.

You know, I think you were the only one I ever remembered to use the mace on except perhaps two other times. They were good battles, the ones just between two of us. Me trying to work past the counter-spell, you trying to get a successful dispel. Good times.

"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." - Jimi Hendrix

Especially when we hit the Marans hard, usually it resulted in a lot of deaths. Kinda sad you've not been around, and I guess you are going to delete soon.

Farewell.

Not been around? Are you kidding? I average about eight hours a day I'd say. As for deleting soon...well, I guess now is pretty soon. It was good travelling with you, like the...um...endowments.

"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." - Jimi Hendrix

Had wondered why I never saw the two of you together... Well, wondered a lot of things here and there.

Chances were usually good we'd have some good fight but I do wish we could have settled one with just us. And one other than me simply catching you unawares. *cough*

Was an odd thing to be fighting you and others and have my strategy be "Ignore Aginal".

Ya, that ante-hell episode pissed me off. At me. I'm thirsty, go to the fridge, grab a beer, come back...I'm just killed. That was the ***ONLY*** time since I got my shields I didn't have them up, even during practice and being in that same spot a dozen times before. When I got to my corpse I just said damn, that's character. Granted, you took my three or four most valued things, but that was alright. I have to say however, when I set that trap for you and you died, and I had everyone return pretty much most of your things, you seemed somewhat...surlish for awhile afterwards. I think your title should have been "The slippery yet jagged diamond" because damn could you get away, yet at the same time be a very long, very sharp thorn. You exemplify my perfect foe. No certain winner. Neither afraid to face the other, even eager, and every battle a joy to the bone. Like I said, your imm mort just made it that much harder to stay with this character. Interesting strategy btw. Actually seemed to work for you however, as more often than not whoever was with me had to run and it would be just us.

"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." - Jimi Hendrix

Sabrian- Jack, steal, run. Not necessarily in that order.

I don't know if you're trying to make me feel bad here, or whatever. Just sit in my shoe's for a second as a thief with five total offensive moves I could use against you, one of which you are immune to with a shield, and two with perma-fly, leaving me a whopping total of two things I could pull against you in a straight on fight. So yeah, I find other ways to weaken you. Steal all your goodies and give them to people that might actually be able to do something to you. Do I feel bad for hitting and running? Nope. I tried the knife run thing a time or two and that didn't work with you spamming geyser the whole time. I stayed for a few of the fights, and low and behold, what was the outcome? Me dead. No surprises there. I just don't have what it takes to stand toe to toe with an arial invoker, hope you realize that. The only time I was even semi-successful against you was with alnallander shield jabbing, my cheapshot would kick in. Other then that, did you really expect me to stick around on missed jacks? Hell, everytime I tried to bind you, either an out of range scion would strip you, or, and this one is good I promise, I jack, out of pk necro words you, I run to your pit, start binding, get the gag, blindfold, hands, start on the feet, and here comes a level 2 GOODIE unbinding you at the hamsah pit, because he thought your stupid walker was doing the binding. ##### man, throw me a bone or something. So yeah, I don't feel bad for what I chose to do with you. I thought you were a good opponent, and I hope you enjoyed all my useless armor. I sure know I enjoyed passing out everything you carried. We've fought before as different characters, and I assure you, we'll fight again as different characters. Next time I'll be a little better prepared in my class choice, with offensive capability. Take care, good character, and good luck on the next.

Sabrian

No, I wouldn't expect anything different from you. The only way you could hope to win was with others after binding me, or that god damn like to kill vynmylak tattoo of yours, which, by the way, you were the only one to ever actually work on me...three times and pissed off each time. The problem was the talk. You died in the fortress to me...eh forget exactly who else, but I remember I had a bard with me who kept singing life to the dying, and Anith was fighting the maran and one other person was with me...maybe trying to lash you. But you come back ghosted, and start saying how I'm nothing special and essentialy worthless. Walked away in the middle of your speech so unsure of what else you would have said. I have only three things that I expect of a good enemy. First and most important, be around. Don't do the bs I got great gear see you in two weeks crap. Second, don't bitch. You control your character. You fight, great. You decide you can't do anything and don't fight, great. Balls or brains. Either is fine with me, just don't confuse the two. Third, don't talk ##### that is total bs, or can't back up. I am too damn old to have any respect for the pre-teen bird-chest. Doesn't impress me. At all. As for the stealing on your part, and the looting on my part. Well, I had hoped you would do more than jack steal and run, although I didn't really expect you to. Giving it to someone who always ran from me pissed me off more. The looting...well, I can't jack and steal, so I have to find my own methods.

"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." - Jimi Hendrix

The talking in the fortress was more or less saying you had good backup, which you did. Sorry, there have been better invokers, I'm not saying you are a slouch, because you're not. I was merely reflecting on the fact that you always, always, always had some lackie there to pull you out, whether it was a bindjob, or whatever. Always, and 75% of the time they were out of pk range. The other times it would be multiple people, like 2 or 3. Nothing wrong with that, the words weren't meant to impress you, they were meant to piss you off. Essentially the same thing you were trying to do to me with the little jack and run, jack, steal, and run talk we had earlier on. Either way, It doesn't really matter, I died, and I can live with that. I'd love to see the guy who could take a binder thief and solo an arial invoker. Its probably possible, but not with all the little henchmen you had floating around, hell, even the goodguys spent their time unbinding you.

Sabrian

Yep, I had my cabal channel to call for an unbind, although that was a time when improved invis proved a bad thing. When I tried to retrieve alone however, I just called a rain and let you come. Which we both know turned out worse for you than me. I think the helpfiles on bindings should be a bit more precise. Battle doesn't make bindings break. VERY EXTENDED battle makes them break. The first time bound I fought SEVENTEEN rounds bound before someone unbound me. Thought that was just screwed, but oh well. Of all the classes, truthfully, I was most wary of druids and thieves. In that order. Druids couldn't kill me really, but with a person or two could if they knew what they were doing. A thief never could without the right backup, but damn if I wasn't always carrying something in my inventory I would really hate having stolen. Biggest compliment to you, gave up about the best belt to be found for a mage just so I could wear a damn girdle of endless space. As for that last bit...that is the part I live for. Taking that one person that is SO unlikely to be able to pull something off, and do it. I've killed invokers with a shield of waves with a duergar mace wielding warrior. I've torn people apart with drow healers. That is my fun. Alot of people like the RP. As I said in one post, I'm the numbers guy. I like to take those odds, shake them up, roll em out and stand them on their heads. When you've taken the impossible and walked through it, you've done something you can look back on and just say "right on".

"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." - Jimi Hendrix

>Then I was thinking maybe being chancellor would give me
>something to do in the otherwise twiddling my thumbs times.
>Oh well.

No offense, but with the way you admit several times in this thread (and I congratulate you on that honesty, actually) that you weren't really interested in RP and were more of a numbers guy -- can you understand why you might not be picked for Chancellor?

That's just an aside. Now, for the point I really wanted to make.

I'm commenting in response to these two excerpts:

>Drahk, bloodthirst,
>cranial/pincer. No idea what people call skilled about you,
>but that is only my opinion.

>Sabrian- Jack, steal, run. Not necessarily in that order.

This is an interesting statement to me about how differently we can perceive things depending on if they're our actions or another's. I saw a good number of Aginal's fights. I've also seen a pretty good number of Drahk's and Sabrian's fights (but I'll be less specific in their cases, since last I checked those characters both still exist).

The thing that was usually going through my head watching Aginal fight was: This dude sure ##### loves pebble.

Now, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that. If you want to keep spamming pebble to boulder in situations where even something like icicle or wall of fire would have been a smarter move, hey, it's your birthday. It obviously was working for you, so, more power to you.

That's not to say I certainly didn't see a fair share of fights where you brought other spells, either. However, from my semi-omniscient-slash-objective point of view, Aginal's tactics swung more heavily on pebble and geyser than Sabrian's did on jacking and stealing or Drahk's did on pincer and cranial. . . and both of their classes offer them significantly less strategic range in many ways than yours did.

This is probably where Shokai would say something like: When you point a finger at someone, three point back at you.

No offense, but with the way you admit several times in this thread (and I congratulate you on that honesty, actually) that you weren't really interested in RP and were more of a numbers guy -- can you understand why you might not be picked for Chancellor?

One point to the gnome in the corner.

valguarnera@carrionfields.com

Alright, did I not write you a note, in which I essentially said, I don't care if you make me chancellor or not, just pick someone already before the bunnies in the woods out breed us? Being chancellor was just something for me to do, not a burning desire. I had no role, no RP, and never once thought about trying to imm mort this character. Although, sad to say, I have had leaders with less.

"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." - Jimi Hendrix

You're brutally honest without being Cadorish like prickness. Yes, I love pebble. I'd love pebble more if it hit more than about 30% of the time. One of your posts somewhere...gameplay I think...said something about lag attacks and one on one it comes down to who can outdamage the other. Well, with my resistances and progged gear, in most cases I could outlast and outdamage about anyone. Problem was just getting the pebbles to hit. I'm not faulting Drahk or Sabrian with their tactics. They use what they have. I just fault perspectives people have, and what they themselves say. I never once saw Drahk whirl, overhead, hook, weaponbreak, boneshatter, drum, dent, shielddeflect, backhand, drive, dirt kick, etc etc. I won't say he never did, I can only comment on what I've seen and heard. As for the chancellorship...no, I never really expected it. But then, I didn't really see anyone else I expected to get it either. It was more of a...mmm...wouldn't say hope, because frankly I never really "hope" for leadership. For the most part it is more trouble than it is worth. Extra deaths per con? Yippee. I con die one out of six characters. Putting up with every other characters #####? Oh joy. I suppose it was more of a last ditch thought on what would keep me in the game. As a last disclaimer, everything I say is strictly opinion. Nothing is solid fact. Disagreee. Agree. Everyone can have their own opinion...even if they do stink. As for the geyser, read my post down in Kratilaire's death posts.

"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." - Jimi Hendrix

yeah I'm also sorry ya wont be around to get me stuff *chuckle* but who cares and about the beast thing, there is just to many damn paladins and warders walkin around to hang on to anything, but I always tried to make the best outta the situation and you always was good for a laugh or two. I also like how you always knew every damn things. have fun with your next character maybe we'll meet up or something.

Only thing I can say for you is pick your fights. Being duergar you can see the thieves and assassins, on roads at least. Warders are a pain sometimes, so stay out of the woods if you don't know who of them are around. And find wands. I don't know everything, I just act like I do.

"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." - Jimi Hendrix

Never liked Aginal. Too much of a fair-weather fighter. When ragers had the head you were nowhere to be seen and when you were seen you teleported away. When the head was taken you were all about the village and all over the ragers like a bad case of crotch-rot. Rarely did we actually butt-heads or fight for any length when we both had items. Only twice as I recall and only when you were stacked. This may have been the way you play a character but as a rager who prides himself on fighting the good fight, I found you cowardly. I fell a few times when retreieving and got angry and full of rage to the point of wasting a con or two in one night till we got it back eventually, then I had to quit, oh well. I wont say much more as I am still very much alive but I did not hold Aginal in high regard at all.

Grogim

That's your opinion. Considering I only saw you I think five times, maybe six, and fought you all but one or two of them, can't say as how you came to that conclusion. Head or not I fought ragers all the time, ask any of the ones that are around more often. High regard? You sit in a wall of thorns with Sassmi,a shaman and a paladin just to kill me, and you do not hold me in high regard? Ya. Ok.

"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." - Jimi Hendrix

The wall of thorns I did not know about and it was not just to kill you. You obviously have tickets of a greater value on yourself. Your death was a happy by-product of the 'RAID'. It was a sweet and sour moment when my next tick saw resist fall and Quimo's geyser take 400+hps off of me. You, Thornarcrull, Quimo and a couple others were able to defend, lets not make out there was a gang come for you alone. I gave my opinion and the fact that you reply in the manner you have tells me all I would ever care to know about you so I will not waste valuable time on you. End of reply and thread.