Wed Mar 21 07:34:16 2012

At 6 o'clock AM, Day of Deception, 23rd of the Month of the Dragon
on the Theran calendar Tzaritzawah perished, never to return.

I thought Tzar did more for the cabal than anyone.

He was happy to teach people about the game.

I don't agree with people that think you wouldn't criticise a rager for using magic (say), because I think you would know about someone's FAMOUS ideals.

The game is much better when cabals don't work together unless they are majorly under the cosh. But cabals working together as otherwise they can't permalag the dude that won't be able to defend anyway... bleh, unless they are naturally allied cabals. I'm not surprised he full-looted people that decided to throw away the fun stick.

Him being anath'd, whatever the reason, threw a major spanner into the pendulum swing, and made being an imperial pretty unfun.

Personally, I liked this character. Obviously other people saw a bad side, but I'm amazed I seem to be the only one that saw the good side.

Much for the same reasons you did. I noted this in my post.

If you ganged him, he got pissed that you ganged a mummy and full looted you. If you came at him alone, he got pissed that you would dare think you could kill him alone, and he full looted you. If you responded to his smack talking after he killed you, he took this as a reason to continue to full loot you anytime you died in his vicinity.

Yeah full looting is/can be a part of the game, but to full loot nearly every single persons corpse you stumble across is just lame. He didn't full loot people who threw away the fun stick, he looted the fun stick from everyone else.

Garbage character.

with gear he certainly could have used/needed and totally he looted 6 pieces, from 2 corpses. I was stunned, as from what I had heard, I expected to be fulled, since I had tried to gang him with one of the chars, and trash talked him.

I liked Tzar, from interacting with him from 4 chars. I guess I got lucky.

Always shoot first and then call whatever you hit the target.

I deal with a lot of foreign players. Empire transcends the language barriers and lets the players run the cabal. I won't believe I treat the foreigners differently. I liked Tzaritzawah in the beginning. It wasn't until you started playing Sagraa that things went down hill for you. If you're looking for a lich quest then play the character you want to lich. Not a murder everything gnome shifter 7 hours a day followed by a 30 minute log in to go hit up EEC for lich quest.

It takes a LOT of time and effort to run a lich quest, and nine times out of ten no one's interested in doing that if you're not playing the necromancer. Even less so if there's a string of whiny prays/interactions where you threaten to delete if you don't get lich quested.

I don't buy into your arguments that we hate you because you're foreign. If you don't want to play because that's your perception then don't.

-- Try an Enlilth follower today! Enlilth, now with 40% more chewey caramel in every bite. --

...probably not much....

Nice description and some of the role stuff. Well written.

Hope is the worst of evils, for it prolongs the torment of man.

I am so glad I do not blow up over stuff related to an internet roleplaying game. Even if you were right, why keep with this? Why the paranoia?

Go screw yourself.

I had hardly any interaction with you, but what little I did pointed to a godawful, ####-head character who did nothing but make the game lousy for 95% of the people who crossed your path.

It has nothing to do with being Russian, as others have said. It has to do with you being a tool. You know why it's so easy to peg a russian in CF? You all seem to powergame like crazy. You all gravitate towards the same cabals.

It has always reeked of your run-of-the-mill, garden variety, OOC cheat ring but it's just a lot easier to spot with you guys. Anyway, good riddance. Don't come back.

Sagraa was Tzaritzawah? That explains SO much. I was wondering why Tzar was threatening to full-loot me before I even met the mummy. I had his evil gnomeshifter's mask! (Garwern gave it to me)

I found it absolutely friggin' hilarious that you, the Picker of Pocket Lint, were calling me a 'Banker-Priest'. I believe my response to your claim was that "I've given away more truly valuable items than you've ever loaded up your Zombies with." Your insistence that I was a gear locker was so off-base, because I've been logging some pretty serious hours throughout all of Illanthos' life. If someone wants what I have, they have ample opportunity to take it from me.

Between your gearwhines, threats to full loot me, and accusations that I was playing a goodie wrong, I was pretty soured to the Tzaritzawah experience from the get-go. I would've liked to have some more meaningful character interactions with you, but you seemed to rather consistently hemorrhage out-of-character disdain for me, so that was pretty much a crapshoot.

If and when you return to the game, I suggest you take a chill pill, and assume that EVERYTHING that happens ingame occurred for ingame reasons. The less you worry about stuff that is outside of your control, the happier you will be. If, after your character is gone, you have some concerns for how stuff played out, talk about it in your death thread.

Your last paragraph hits the nail on the head. The two main times Davarrah interacted with Tzar were painful for just this reason.

#1. Joining Tzar on his trip to meet the lichmaker, Davarrah had to endure his veiled imm conspiracy commentary and the veiled threat to delete if Tzar didn't get a lichquest. It was annoying enough I nearly told the immortal playing the lichmaker to back off while I killed Tzar myself.

#2. Years later I'm chasing Tzar over a stolen artifact and he starts rehashing that crap all over again! Now because an NPC is chasing you, the immortals want to drive you out of Thera. At this point I decided that would be our last interaction ever, because you seemed committed to sucking the fun out of everything. (FWIW, you could have talked yourself out of that death, if you hadn't gone down the woe is me path.)

>Between your gearwhines, threats to full loot me, and
>accusations that I was playing a goodie wrong, I was pretty
>soured to the Tzaritzawah experience from the get-go.

I had hoped that cf had changed in the last two years since I stopped playing but it seems not. I remember back then when an outlander would tell my imperial or tribunal that I wasn't following imperial or tribunal law, or when a mage would tell my rager that I wasn't following battle law or when someone I killed told my (one and only) nexun that I was not obeying the balance or when, as here, some evil would tell me I wasn't being "good" or not being a good paladin, as if an orc or mummy or whatever would know better.

Anytime you (anyone, plural here) feel the urge to tell someone (typically someone who just killed you) that they are not adhering to their role/religion/cabal philosophies, stop, take a deep breath, and don't do it. It's entirely ooc. Really.

I'm gone and this time - serious, without coming back. Reason - not anger, or frustration, but disgust. Due to well known events on officials and behind the scenes, CF went from miracleous reality to a dirty, corrupted, nationalistic kitchen, where little childs are throwing #### in each other. This is not a game I loved, and not a game I want to play, so - bye.

Daevryn/Baerhyn:
I won't say much. Actually, I thank you for releasing me from CF and killing every bit of addiction I had. Earlier, I wanted to wish you to be gone from CF, but now I realise I was wrong. I wish you to remain forever in CF and your childs too.

Additional thanx for opening my eyes on such words as nationalism (never met before), biased treatment (same) and corruption (well, we have enough of this in Russia, but now I know that it's far worse in US). Bye.

Fullsacced people:
You've got what you deserved, and I don't regret a tiny bit of it. I apology to Argivo and Bohvik though. Rest, you know why you've been fullsacced. Well deserved.

Actually, that's all my farewell - earlier I'd write few pages, but it's too dirty and too unimportant now to waste my time of this.

Good luck with spending your lives here, zadrots.

I will say that from my viewpoint, Tzar did very little good for the game. I'd like to address a few slanderous remarks you leveled at me.

Healing Ragers: I healed Odrallag once during a raid to save his life. This was right after we were the two head honchos in saving Iunna and IC I felt very close to Odrallag. IIRC he later died to your scourge. During his ghost time he realized I healed him and he made me duel him to the death in Iunna's shrine. Which I grudgingly did and there was a whole RP episode about that.

As for me being part of a perma. That's a joke. I have absolutely no OOC contact with anyone who plays Carrionfields. It's the way I enjoy the game. I don't even like to tie past characters one another.

Me Multikilling: This is also absurd to me. I believe in my death thread you accused me of multi killing Qaz and Sagraa. The Qaz situation has already been addressed and debunked by both myself and Daevryn in my old death thread. Sagraa I killed twice, 9 days apart(as referenced by Sagraa's PBF).

Ultimately I don't really care for your opinions, but they're so off base as far as I am concerned that I feel as if you're lashing out for no real reason. Your character was malicious and hurtful on a level that bypasses roleplay and goes straight to douchebaggery. I, for one, hope that if you return you rein your temper in and play with a more level head, rather than jumping to conclusions and assumptions that are false and slanderous in nature.

If CF lost you, we'd lose more than I think anyone would know.

You know I love you man

>I have
>absolutely no OOC contact with anyone who plays Carrionfields.


This is a lie and you know it.

I won't get into the rest of what you said because I honestly don't give a ####.

I hated Sagraa with a passion also.

That's funnyone's or Jerrokrar's game dude. Leave it to him.

You're slowly souring the good feelings I had interacting with Timnad and Uhariz.

Well this will sound a lot harsher that I want it to. But the game wiLl be a better place without you. I hope you find something else to fill your time.

I will stop there.

n/t

dfvbsv

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Out of curiosity, are you the one that registered Garwern's name on this forum?

If so, can you delete the account so Garwern can post under his character's name again?

Honestly, I found the healing incident to be far less egregious than him and I coming to get you while he was wearing the stoneform amulet, but that's just me. The stoneform incident made its way into my role, and I honestly wasn't 100% sure Odrallag would even end up staying in the village. I was nowhere near as dramatic as our paladin friend, but then again he needed a fuzzy Iunna doll and hugs to lull himself to sleep....

Because of Odrallag's history and role, his hatred was leveled at three groups of people.
1. Necromancers
2. Mages
3. Priests of the Light

Because of this, there was a very complex relationship between Odrallag and Garwern. I understand of course, that there was no way for you to know this, and even had Tzar and Odrallag engaged in a lot of actual RP, probably never would have known this. We were also both tattooed followers of Iunna, who did not have a great love for the undead, or Tzar in particular. To my knowledge Garwern and I never raided with other members of our respective cabals, and we never even killed Tzar, which should be just as big bragging rights as anything else. But those bragging rights belong to Tzar, the scary evil horrific imperial mummy, not to the player, who is a regular human just like the rest of us. Unless of course you and Durnomitator have collaborated in some fashion, in which case you may be part robot. But I digress.

The only constructive criticism I would have, if you ever choose to play this game again, or another like it, would be to try and see things in a RP light a little more. I can understand why Tzar would be upset that two of his enemies who he assumed wouldn't work together started doing so. But threatening a full loot, because you the player believe they shouldn't do that is, I think, the wrong way to go about it. I honestly think you and a few others play this game too much to try and beat CF, or to have the archetypical unbeatable hero/villian than you do for the experience. Which, if that is what gives you joy, then I suppose that is alright. But I also think you would garner much more enjoyment if you played that style, but also accepted that sometimes heros fall, and villians have their evil plans foiled. Oftentimes not by their nemesis either, but by some poor schmuck who happens to pick up Arvam's sword when its laying in the Inn.

All in all, I hope you find something that you enjoy doing, and if you come back to CF we'll be here. GLWYN and see you in the fields.

Unless of course you and Durnomitator have collaborated in some fashion, in which case you may be part robot. But I digress.

Two player ettin race was discussed in Dio's earlier, with mechanics. Danilevski and I are disagree in most issues, so we would make a lovely ettin. Can we have that ettin tomorrow?

I agree with you about number of nationalistic immature american players of CF,
i agree with you about sort of corruption and OOC things here.
BUT, you was anathemed for some reason, you killed a lot of imperials after (you got my char also two or three times, but i don't ever know what happened between you and Emperor(mouthy healer? who was yelling #### on clan channel whole time?)) and this isn't turned me
mad about you, and at the end i liked a challenge facing you without real chance to bring you down and very real chance to die.
I am Russian and i am proud of it!
I had few good roles, generally much better then felar mouse-keeper of The Chessmaster (but because of poor language?, i got no attention),
well i am over it. I still trying to RP some, and i am not waiting for rewards. You are good at PK, you are not bad in RP, so just enjoy the game. This is much better then forties with gank-o-metter 3+ and titles/last names and such.
Don't spend your nerves because of it, this is just a game.

most players like russian players at least as much as they like other normal players.

There are some russian players that are not liked, but that is not because of nationality but because of play-style and forum posting. Just like there are some american players disliked for the exact same reasons. Proportionally, yes, it seems there are more bad russian players than american players, but that's only because there are like 10 russians that play CF.

So. I find it rather silly to rant about a bias like this that doesn't exist.

And while the Patton quote Pro posted is amusing in the context of WW2 free world vs. communism, no one here really identifies with it these days (well, 99% of us do not).

We welcome our russian serfs, stay and be welcomed.

"Proportionally, yes, it seems there are more bad russian players than american players" - how did you count? becuase americans better then russians just because they americans? HAIL HITLER YOURGENT!
"WW2 free world vs. communism" - what are you talking about, one of BEST nation, have you ever read a single history book?
"as they like other normal players." - so if you are russian you somehow "not normal" but you can be like other normal american players sometimes?
+2 to TZAR.

Your acting like a politician. Picking words and changing them around to make your point valid but as everyone knows in the end your full of #### (like all politicians). I have no idea who is russian and who is american. I'm american and honestly I dont like Alston and Funnyone. I personally like TMS/Sam. I dont mind Rogue because I honestly just feel bad for him. I have no idea who you are but I believe you played the Zaan which is a good character but right now your losing my respect by acting foolish. We base who we like on their actions not by where they live. Atleast I do. I think your the one who is the nationalist and you want to make others seem to be what you are. Take it or leave it.

I've got a single #### to give...and it's just for you.

nt

...I do have a problem with people thinking there is an anti-Russian conspiracy in this game and using that to justify being an epic douchebag on the forums.

I'd save the rest of my vitriol for another time.

But it has nothing to do with their nationality, just their habits.

I note that you use it on the forums and you say you try to RP in the game. Do you punctuate?

I had a lot of respect for Tzaritzawah, especially before you became a mummy. You'd stay online and keep logged in against nasty odds, and I never tried all that hard to gank you or steal your mummy items while you weren't looking. I have absolutely no bias against Russians, and I think many Russian players are often better than American ones. That being said, I thought you were worthy of respect.

Then you became a mummy, and went mad with your newfound power (taking lessons from Putin?). You started multi-full-looting everyone in sight, even people who had no relation to the ones you hated. You made the game less fun for everyone in fort, and made the lives of everyone in empire much worse too (forties had to loot them hard in order to replace the things you constantly full looted). You just added nothing good to the game, and added so much bad, and you never really reaped any of the consequences for it.

I remember you posting that incredibly silly full looter's code, and then a few days later, you break it yourself after I stole that shield from you and you proceed to full loot everyone in the Fortress because I wouldn't give you the shield back. LOL really? I was just awestruck at how you tried to justify yourself, and then couldn't even stick to your own rules.

Long story short, I think you got off really lightly, despite just being really bad for CF overall. Your character was so terrible that he didn't just look really bad, he made everyone around him look really bad too. Example: Eleagra.

Blame it on Daev/Baer, blame it on nationalism, biased treatment, and corruption, but I think the real reason everyone hated Tzaritzawah was that he was played by you. It certainly didn't bother me that you were Russian. It bothered me that you were a gigantic douchebag, a tool in the worst sense.

There have been a lot of Russian characters who were of the highest quality and received tons of rewards. You didn't get any because you were just that bad. The end.

About full loots. Being close to Tzar for rather big part of Eleagra's life I won't call any of those unjustified. There were probably 2-3 chars that didn't deserve it in my book and that's it(Vallinane included - but I believe me and Tzar just had different experience with you and would you be stealing #### from me for the sake of stealing you'd likely see very different me in regards of looting). Yes, I myself don't bother with full loots, but it's because I'm rather lazy man and often just don't really care to punish bad behaivors. Also it's way easier to loot someone having 5 zombies with you than when you are fire giant with 1 slot free in your inventory All in all those of you who cry here about Tzar being full loot douche look at yourself first and maybe you'll find the problem in you. More likely you won't but whatever.

>>> There have been a lot of Russian characters who were of the highest quality and received tons of rewards. You didn't get any because you were just that bad. The end.<<<

Care to call at least one of those heavy rewarded chars? I'm playing for about 5 years now and can't remember even one. Maybe something with my memmory though.

He just forgot about it around hour 900 of Ahtieli

You know I've checked Kostyan, Mhaldarn, Gurzgreed and Eoria just from the top of my head - no somewhat serious rewards...Just at all. About Ahtieli - not so easy to judge but as far as I know she got nothing except that she was allowed to lich..

Kostyan got tattoed, titled, Emperor-fied and an extra legacy.

Mharlndarn got leader and several batches of IMM xp.

Gurzweeg didn't get much...except for an AP with ~250 charges. Cabdru didn't really get anything that Gurzweeg didn't (he got a role contest reward, Dwoggurd has also got role contest rewards), nor did Ravon, so I'm not sure what you're getting at with him.

Eoria had the IMMs CHOOSE HER AS EMPEROR WHEN THERE WAS A TIE DUDE. Not to mention an edge from Twist and a ton of IMM xp.

I'm not sure what you are looking for. Sure, some characters get a ton of super awesome rewards. 95% of those characters couldn't beat a character played by Eleagra, or Beront, or Elhe with executioner's grace and the slay quest spell.


PS You could have got a ton of rewards with your character if you weren't so ####ing stubborn and set in your mindset. I'm throwing that out there right now.

Am I mistaken to point out that one of our ESL players (Russian as well, I believe) got EXECUTIONER'S GRACE as a reward? The by far most OP skill to ever be given out, IMHO.

Wow, what I wouldn't give for that on any race/class/cabal combo.

nt

All you cold-lovin Nordic bastards are pretty good. Marcus, Deriveh, vvega, Elmeri. I think there are more but I'm not sure.

Why are you guys so ungrateful about rewards. I #### bricks when I even get a little EXP for RP or whatever it is. Maybe people should look at themselves and think. Is it that the imms are bigots and hate players or is it a mix of bad luck or better yet you got something awesome but the player is too full of themselves to even believe its good. The only way people will be happy if they are given the power to slay as an imm reward..but even then they will want multi-slay so they can kill their entire pk range without moving from their guild.

I've got a single #### to give...and it's just for you.

Sure, just off the top of my head: Ahtieli, Eoria, Adarmar, Nabburak, Kostyan, Mharlndarn - there are more but I think that's enough to establish there isn't a bias here. For comparison, check out what rewards Sivyh, an awesome character as good as any in the above list, got.

ETA: I don't know what you consider good rewards, but I believe edges, extra legacies, and lich quest are all good and rare rewards (at least for my chars).

Sivyh was total ####. But here we won't ever agree. Obviously. About Adarmar - third legacy was given for winning the competion. It has nothing to do with Imm liking the char or not. They just couldn't not give soomething for it. Btw this legacy is bleh type legacy Not as bad as one which Kostyan got but still miles far from what Ohbabies regulary recieve. Know nothing about Nabburak - didn't play at his times which means it was too long ago and not really important now. About all others I've already written.

It's pretty crazy how much Ohbehb got hooked up, even Akedeh got an amazing complimentary legacy. I can't even express how thankful I am because of that, but I do have to say that I have encountered a number of characters that were better and should have gotten more. Sometimes it is just being in the right place at the right time, and sometimes the staff forgets about some of the bleh moments (admittedly) players have had in the past. For instance the whole sand lizard drama, I should never have batted an eye at that and been thankful the whole time but I wasn't and raised a little stink because of it. Looking back on it I acted the fool, but we all have at times I think.

What can you take from this random rant?

Well, if you want to be treated appropriately act appropriately, play the game in a sporting manner. Do your damnedest to make your ROLE come to life through ROLEPLAY. Try your best to PK in the correct circumstances based on the specifics behind your ROLE. And just try to be a good person, don't ruin the fun for the guy on the other side of the screen... but instead try to amplify it and make the whole experience all the more amazing. And just maybe, you will be in the right place at the right time and pull off some ridiculous stunt and someone up top with see it and love it. Oh, and never be a douche about getting anything extra, even the slightest reward is spectacular.

I would only add to this that asking for a reward or angling for a specific reward (ps my role is now all about how much I love manticores) generally will have the opposite affect of what's intended. The only exception I can really think of this is subtly expressing an interest in cabal leadership, mostly because sometimes its as much a blessing as a curse. Other imm's mileage may vary.

I agree with what you wrote. At least it looks true for me... But guess Russians just have bad carma with that meeting of right place and time in CF At least statistics tell that. And I'm not talking about my chars if it's not obvious. I even had one that I concider overrewarded

You might be overstating your case a little.

True, I got very little in terms of rewards (other than the pity tat from Enlilth). On the other hand, I was much less deathful than most of those characters.

What's Waserax's excuse, then? The 5th deadliest shaman of all time!

True, but I like to use your chars as an example in arguments like these because I think they go relatively unrewarded given their quality. Also, I don't think anyone could conjure up some predisposed bias against you as a player to explain the perceived lack of rewards for your chars as anything other than evidence that rewards are a product of IC circumstance and random acts of opportunity.

Eta: grammar, on my iPhone.

>What's Waserax's excuse, then? The 5th deadliest shaman of
>all time!
>
>True, but I like to use your chars as an example in arguments
>like these because I think they go relatively unrewarded given
>their quality. Also, I don't think anyone could conjure up
>some predisposed bias against you as a player to explain the
>perceived lack of rewards for your chars as anything other
>than evidence that rewards are a product of IC circumstance
>and random acts of opportunity.
>
>Eta: grammar, on my iPhone.

Your comment made me go look up Melememelem (9th deadliest, go me!) but what really stood out is that she's #1 for drow, and there are very very very few dark-elf shamen at all. This should be something for Nep on the whole "edges needed" list, obviously d-elf shaman is wildly underplayed and duerg shaman is boss.

D-elf sha has a super cool edge!

And there's some cool stuff that takes a decent wisdom, too.

Well there you have it.

Guess it just needs better marketing. People need to know the worlds of power they can attain if only they roll the delf shaman. Where's that pr guy?

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You are rock solid on your own but the fact that your (admitedly long lived) characters keep winding up right next to the same players over and over again... I guess your reward is that your allowed to keep doing that.

Its sad because you are one of the best players in the community but you let your reputation get besmirched that way. Your personal success is really not tied to having them around, just ditch them in game.

I sort of think you and I have very different ideas of what is justified.

For example, I guess you can full loot Garwern - defiance pally is really hard for a lot of characters to handle. But are you going to hunt him down, kill him, and full loot him again 20 minutes later while he's barely regeared and is still wearing mostly outfit stuff? I saw this personally, and it made me think less of both of you.

I thought Eleagra was a much better character when she wasn't hanging out with Tzaritzawah, and had a lot more respect for her then.

People like Garwern are real exceptions for me. There were hardly more than 10 chars in my 5 years of playing whome I would really love to do it to. Temperance paladins pretending to be high and special take big part of that list Still even if/when I kill them I usualy don't even loot too much out of laziness and good mood. Garwern was unlucky that mummy simplifies such things by great degree.

It was so funny to look at his Yarglen goodbuy when such punching bag who managed to con die dwarf temperance paladin with easy access to defiance in two monthes took surprised look on his face that his duergar warrior failed in PK so miserably. Just a remark though.

I probably shouldn't stoop to this level but...I killed Eleagra 1v1 as both of those characters more times than Eleagra killed either of those characters. Which is actually fairly impressive, given how risk-averse Eleagra is compared to how pro-risk I am.

I think as Yarglen our 1v1 count was 4-2 or something, me.

As Garwern, I don't think you ever got me solo but I could be very, very wrong about that. But I do remember killing you with basic regear at your own inners, solo. Yes, I die a lot, but that has very little to do with pk savvy or competence, and much more to do with me being very, very willing to risk it all for the upset. Cowardice is not something that comes naturally to me. Garwern was the 3rd deadliest Paladin of all (recorded) time, and Gurzgred was the 14th deadliest goodie.

Couple that with my characters such as Hralpelk(anathema who was capable of taking down Mharlndarn and Flaaayin solo) and I mean... I dunno. I'm not the best, by any stretch, but either you're woefully underestimating me or don't like losing much.

Eleagra - Yarglen was 4-5 in your favor. Actualy it was 4-4 in favor of centurions and my lack of experience of being anathema. And sorry but spear spec war master is not the most convenient opponent for fire giant anathema. I won't even coment on Garwern. It's just poor match up for those builds. But anyway it just comes down to pointing fingers now. What you call being brave I call being suicidal and/or lacking skill. What you call cowardice I call knowing when you have chance to win and when not. Yes in my book you are punching bag if you can't live for 5 rl minutes without dying no matter if you manage to kill someone in between.

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...and those individuals that take risks to justify their RP stance in game (call it suicidal) will always be acknowledged and in many instances rewarded for their efforts.

Those that don't understand the difference will typically be the first to complain that they lack immortal 'attention.'

Because you sling #### like yours doesn't stink.

I used to give you gear and wands every time I saw you online, actually (I played Eljassir the Imperial Shifter who was a cheetah/alligator).

Then you decided to throw a hate-fest on Sivyh's deletion thread (that was your first strike). I'm sure in your mind you were more than deserving for Dread Lord, but your failure to realize that Sivyh is playing his own character and might not be so keen to promote someone who will overthrow him could possibly have played into him promoting you.

Meanwhile, this whole time (while Sivyh is still Emperor and you are all butt hurt), you are playing another character into hero-range.

Here's the timeline:

Wed Aug 3 03:56:31 2011 at level 30 (43 hrs):
Sagraa advanced to level 30 <PK: 0-0>

Fri Aug 5 11:34:18 2011 at level 40 (67 hrs):
Sagraa advanced to level 40 <PK: 0-0>

Tue Aug 9 07:40:29 2011 at level 44 (81 hrs):
Rolled the Bones and swapped top tier major form dire wolf for silverback gorilla

Mon Aug 15 09:47:30 2011 at level 51 (113 hrs):
Sagraa advanced to level 51 <PK: 5-1>

Thu Aug 25 10:03:18 2011 at level 51 (188 hrs):
Tattooed by Scarabaeus.

Fri Sep 23 13:31:36 2011 at level 51 (243 hrs):
Sagraa moved to Arkham

Fri Oct 21 17:33:07 2011 at level 51 (264 hrs):
Hero Delete

And coincedentally, like at Sivyh's death thread:
Mon Sep 26 23:22:18 2011

At 10 o'clock PM, Day of Freedom, 25th of the Month of the Grand Struggle
on the Theran calendar Sivyh perished, never to return.

So, basically, you play a character into hero range (because you are butt hurt for god knows why) and then the moment that your other character has an advantage (no cock-blocking Emperor) you start playing him, and completely ignore Sagraa.

I'm not even going to get into the fact that Sagraa was basically Tzaritzawah in gnome form, but whatever.

Basically, I liked this character before you started playing Sagraa. After that, you basically encompassed the type of player/character that KEEPS me from playing CF.

Kudos.

It's so surreal to me that you've somehow turned me into your nemesis when you, basically, play while I'm working (and not mudding). I have almost zero firsthand interaction or knowledge of you other than your forum persona.

It's all very Johnny Snow from Dr. Horrible.

Have fun with that!

I used to be the old Valg for a while back before there was a Valg, except then I think they called it being the new Cador, or the new new ShaidarHaran.

In a sense I'm used to it, but in most of those cases I legitimately did bust on those people in some way. I'm fine with the whole "For you, the day I busted you for multicharring a shaman's robe was the most important day of your life, but for me, it was Tuesday" thing but I didn't think I had even that much going on with Tzar. Persecution complex? I have no idea.

FU!!!!!!! j/k you've hooked me up inadvertantly with more gear than I ever lost getting busted for multicharring....

.

Seriously.

It's like calling someone who inadvertantly gives you bad information a liar. There has to be intent.

Morale of the story people are stupid.

I've got a single #### to give...and it's just for you.

Feh. Those are usually entertaining.

Sometimes I wish everyone who announces "I'm quitting forever. Really!" could be automatically site-banned from the game, official forums and Dio's. Maybe it would cut down on some of the melodrama.

I had nothing but respect for Tzaritzawah.

I am fairly certain I had the misfortune of being the guy who fought Dreadlord mummy and Eleagra Warmaster the most. It was painful but I never really saw anything other than a badass pk'er with decent RP.

I am actually one of the people in the camp who thought you and Eleagra both got hosed by the immortals and for what its worth I don't necessarily blame you for leaving.

Get a proxy, come back, kick ass.

>I am actually one of the people in the camp who thought you
>and Eleagra both got hosed by the immortals and for what its
>worth I don't necessarily blame you for leaving.

I kind of think you're talking out your ass.

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I'm not really sure why you didn't make this comment in the Solec thread. However, since you feel the need to #### on my opinion, which is based on actual in-game experiences, let me elaborate so you have all the information.

Solec in my experience always had at least 1 if not more ally on and did nothing that I ever saw but gang villagers. His pbf seems to reflect my beliefs and is why I quoted it.

I do realize that the character was defense/defense and probably should be rewarded simply for not deleting out of boredom, but I was completely unimpressed with the character. The key part to that sentence is -I-. Maybe you were privy to some awesome RP and thought he was swell, and thats great. My experiences were different.

In contrast, Tzaritzawah was someone I saw online every single day, kicking ass by himself or in a group nonstop. Maybe you were being full-sacced by him and think he was god awful, but I got nothing but respect from that character in all but one encounter in 250+ hours and believe me I was dying to him plenty.

What I saw was Tzar beating ass every single day. Eleagra as well.

Maybe PK doesn't mean as much anymore but both of those characters were pretty badass and I fought both of them when they were solo a ton.

Were there other things I didn't see?

What you're writing in this post, even if assumed to be correct and everything there is to know, doesn't logically lead to what you wrote in the above post.

Edit: And Eleagra's still active, so that's my last word on it for now.

I should have said "I was surprised neither of you got Emperor despite multiple votes and based on IC comments assumed this was due to the staff".

>I am actually one of the people in the camp who thought you and Eleagra both got hosed by the *immortals*

From IC interactions with certain people, and reading between the lines... I'm pretty sure it was pure imperial politics that screwed them - I.E. mortal action. No imms involved.

We can talk about it in more detail when Eleagra is gone.

A small, green haired man laughs to himself.

Back while I was dormant, you emailed me asking me to run your lichquest. You told me this was your only character and you would delete if you didn't get it.

I mention this to higher level imms to see if anyone will take the bait and run a quest for you. Surprise! You are playing another very active character that also threatens to delete whenever he doesn't get what he wants!

At this point, I just wanted to generally ignore you, but you decided to bring my OOC rejection of lichquest due to being dormant IC and tell everyone that would listen for a while that I hated and was jealous of you.

I actually enjoyed the last part of your character, as Anathema, but your delusions about the reason and nature of you being "blackballed" by me turned me off of interacting with you every time I watched or tried throughout the span of your character.

Dunno about all the nationalism stuff, but I liked fighting you, and a mummy that lasted that long, and made that much of an impact is an accomplishment. Hope you settle down and come back. Any game that can stir that much emotion (even negative) still has something going for it, I think.