no one to promote me now! haha,
tezart (Anonymous),
28-Sep-11 08:22 AM, #80
Awesome Char,
Masardu (Anonymous),
27-Sep-11 02:52 PM, #66
Re: Empire Promotions,
Twist,
27-Sep-11 01:44 PM, #64
RE: Re: Empire Promotions,
Isildur,
27-Sep-11 03:05 PM, #67
I'd see the same, often...,
Twist,
27-Sep-11 03:46 PM, #70
This is actually really important, in my opinion.,
Vortex Magus,
27-Sep-11 08:56 PM, #76
Damnit, I could never return the favor,
Obregon (Anonymous),
27-Sep-11 12:03 PM, #58
Clue...,
Vinq (Anonymous),
27-Sep-11 10:09 AM, #46
RE: Clue...,
Isildur,
27-Sep-11 11:56 AM, #55
RE: orders,
Vinq (Anonymous),
27-Sep-11 02:39 PM, #65
Good riddance.,
Dallevian,
27-Sep-11 09:38 AM, #42
RE: Good riddance.,
Isildur,
27-Sep-11 11:49 AM, #52
You will be missed!,
Skeeta Twitterlark (Anonymous),
27-Sep-11 01:29 AM, #9
RE: (AGE DEATH) [EMPIRE] Sivyh Nakhtun the Vicious Tine...,
Isildur,
26-Sep-11 11:58 PM, #2
No love for your happy serial Empire hell guide? :P,
Gaplemo,
27-Sep-11 12:26 AM, #3
RE: No love for your happy serial Empire hell guide? :P,
Isildur,
27-Sep-11 08:09 AM, #23
RE: (AGE DEATH) [EMPIRE] Sivyh Nakhtun the Vicious Tine...,
GoTeamUnderdog (NOT garwern),
27-Sep-11 12:49 AM, #4
RE: (AGE DEATH) [EMPIRE] Sivyh Nakhtun the Vicious Tine...,
Isildur,
27-Sep-11 08:13 AM, #24
On your last death,
GoTeamUnderdog (NOT garwern),
27-Sep-11 08:59 AM, #38
RE: On your last death,
Isildur,
27-Sep-11 09:07 AM, #39
RE: (AGE DEATH) [EMPIRE] Sivyh Nakhtun the Vicious Tine...,
Nirilas (Anonymous),
27-Sep-11 12:51 AM, #5
Absolutely loved your char,
Timnad (Anonymous),
27-Sep-11 01:00 AM, #6
RE: Absolutely loved your char,
Isildur,
27-Sep-11 08:14 AM, #25
Hope you will never ever play leaders again. Thanks. NT,
imperiall (Anonymous),
27-Sep-11 01:09 AM, #7
This is not what Anonymous posting is for. Man up.,
Gaplemo,
27-Sep-11 01:30 AM, #10
I said. I am active - i will post everything on deletio...,
imperial (Anonymous),
27-Sep-11 02:55 AM, #12
How bout posting your forum handle. ,
Gaplemo,
27-Sep-11 03:05 AM, #13
Thanks, but no.,
imperial (Anonymous),
27-Sep-11 03:19 AM, #14
RE: How bout posting your forum handle. ,
Isildur,
27-Sep-11 08:18 AM, #27
Not at all,
imperial (Anonymous),
27-Sep-11 09:48 AM, #45
RE: Not at all,
Isildur,
27-Sep-11 12:04 PM, #57
RE: Not at all,
Twist,
27-Sep-11 01:27 PM, #59
Having had personal experience with this guy...,
Welverin,
27-Sep-11 03:14 PM, #68
Hey Imms, I have a question regarding my potential post...,
Runaktla,
27-Sep-11 07:23 PM, #74
RE: This is not what Anonymous posting is for. Man up.,
Daevryn,
27-Sep-11 08:36 AM, #30
RE: This is not what Anonymous posting is for. Man up.,
N b M,
27-Sep-11 08:42 AM, #31
Of course.,
imperial (Anonymous),
27-Sep-11 09:43 AM, #44
Isildur's examples sound sound to me,
incognito,
27-Sep-11 01:36 PM, #61
Dunno,
incognito,
27-Sep-11 01:34 PM, #60
If it makes you feel any better, Elhe didn't want to An...,
TMNS,
27-Sep-11 11:56 PM, #77
You are wrong.,
imperial (Anonymous),
27-Sep-11 09:38 AM, #41
I see you, Legion,
Swordsosaurus,
27-Sep-11 12:01 PM, #56
I went Empire for two reasons. One was Sivyh.,
TMNS,
28-Sep-11 12:03 AM, #78
Basically yeah,
Gaplemo,
28-Sep-11 12:38 AM, #79
Also, thanks for the insight ;),
imperial (Anonymous),
27-Sep-11 09:47 AM, #43
RE: Also, thanks for the insight ;),
Daevryn,
27-Sep-11 10:16 AM, #47
AHahha HOW DO YOU KNOW?!?!,
Gleebrok (Anonymous),
27-Sep-11 10:42 AM, #48
waddn't me.,
Bajula,
27-Sep-11 04:16 PM, #71
It's pretty simple,
incognito,
27-Sep-11 01:38 PM, #62
Shaddup already! Each Emperor is individual and so you...,
Abernyte,
27-Sep-11 04:34 AM, #17
You guys are clearly misinterpreting this.,
Vortex Magus,
27-Sep-11 04:47 AM, #18
Exactly.,
imperial (Anonymous),
27-Sep-11 04:57 AM, #19
If no one is good enough,
incognito,
27-Sep-11 01:39 PM, #63
RE: Hope you will never ever play leaders again. Thanks...,
Isildur,
27-Sep-11 08:15 AM, #26
Great, now that the spot's open you can show us how it'...,
Bell,
27-Sep-11 03:38 PM, #69
HAHA,
Rhone (Anonymous),
27-Sep-11 01:16 AM, #8
RE: (AGE DEATH) [EMPIRE] Sivyh Nakhtun the Vicious Tine...,
The Zaan (Anonymous),
27-Sep-11 01:40 AM, #11
RE: (AGE DEATH) [EMPIRE] Sivyh Nakhtun the Vicious Tine...,
Isildur,
27-Sep-11 08:46 AM, #33
Well from what I could understand, Farror never voted. ...,
Lohoq (Anonymous),
27-Sep-11 11:02 AM, #51
RE: Well from what I could understand, Farror never vot...,
Isildur,
27-Sep-11 11:51 AM, #53
Dude, we killed every dragon but the blue in that one l...,
TMNS,
27-Sep-11 06:07 PM, #73
RE: (AGE DEATH) [EMPIRE] Sivyh Nakhtun the Vicious Tine...,
Vallinane (Anonymous),
27-Sep-11 03:43 AM, #15
RE: (AGE DEATH) [EMPIRE] Sivyh Nakhtun the Vicious Tine...,
Isildur,
27-Sep-11 08:51 AM, #35
RE: (AGE DEATH) [EMPIRE] Sivyh Nakhtun the Vicious Tine...,
Angynn (Anonymous),
27-Sep-11 03:55 AM, #16
RE: (AGE DEATH) [EMPIRE] Sivyh Nakhtun the Vicious Tine...,
Morin (Anonymous),
27-Sep-11 05:09 AM, #20
Oops, intended to reply to original Sivyh goodbye post.,
Caerdryn (Anonymous),
27-Sep-11 09:10 AM, #40
Thank god! Im never going to lose con again!,
Sugabear (NOT Puhguly),
27-Sep-11 05:28 AM, #21
Excellent character, as usual.,
Allysia (Anonymous),
27-Sep-11 07:53 AM, #22
Long live the emperor,
Rolas (Anonymous),
27-Sep-11 08:18 AM, #28
shame we never got to talk,
Zosi (Anonymous),
27-Sep-11 08:20 AM, #29
RE: shame we never got to talk,
Isildur,
27-Sep-11 08:53 AM, #36
RE: (AGE DEATH) [EMPIRE] Sivyh Nakhtun the Vicious Tine...,
Easog (Anonymous),
27-Sep-11 08:44 AM, #32
RE: (AGE DEATH) [EMPIRE] Sivyh Nakhtun the Vicious Tine...,
Bell (NOT Oryntohr),
27-Sep-11 08:49 AM, #34
RE: (AGE DEATH) [EMPIRE] Sivyh Nakhtun the Vicious Tine...,
Isildur,
27-Sep-11 08:57 AM, #37
Watching you finally switch swords,
Bell (NOT Oryntohr),
27-Sep-11 07:43 PM, #75
RE: (AGE DEATH) [EMPIRE] Sivyh Nakhtun the Vicious Tine...,
Gleebrok (Anonymous),
27-Sep-11 10:45 AM, #49
Empire Ruiner!!!!!,
Lohoq (Anonymous),
27-Sep-11 10:57 AM, #50
Great character,
MoetEtChandon,
27-Sep-11 11:51 AM, #54
Just an absolutely fabulous job.,
TMNS,
27-Sep-11 06:00 PM, #72
Enjoyed the Hell runs. Isildur, yes? nt,
Artificial,
26-Sep-11 11:30 PM, #1
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#102853, "no one to promote me now! haha"
In response to Reply #0
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Join the Empire today, and you will be rewarded with gold!
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#102831, "Awesome Char"
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Weldone Sivyh. I loved our RP sessions. You asked me numerous times to take the Oath and the banter continued. I loved talking to you.
And thanks for those pieces of gear. Thank you so much.
GLWYN
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Twist | Tue 27-Sep-11 01:44 PM |
Member since 23rd Sep 2006
3431 posts
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#102827, "Re: Empire Promotions"
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So having had 3 Emperors (2 relatively recently), I can say without hesitation that you did a pretty damn good job of running the Empire re: promotions. Let's look at the Council you had at your strongest point:
Zaanzorbarus - deadly bard with very good overall game knowledge. No real weakness here except maybe not enough playtime (but hey, we're all getting older and have less time, right?)
Farror - highly skilled healer who, in his prime, could raid cabals solo with his Shawtabby army
Lohoq - arguably better at assassinating than you yourself were, amazing how many of your enemies were scattered rather than forming resistance just because they were avoiding getting stalked
Cotzibue - scary mummy with big zombie armies that would dominate for hours at a time
Under that council you had a very formidable group of Elites and lessers. There were times you had 9-10 hero-level imperials on. That's hardcore. That's Hunsobo/Waserax/Ktaar level stuff going on there.
Then they tried a coup. And strangely enough, instead of using the anathemetization as a "Awesome free sect seats!" springboard, most of those lower guys just stopped showing. I think a case could have been made for promoting Phawa up to War Master rather than reinstating the Zaan, but I can't really fault the way you went with it. Largely you had an Empire full of Elites and sub-elites who just never showed. Every time I saw someone do something even questionably promotion-worthy, if you were on, it seemed like they got promoted. That's about all a guy can do.
So nice work, good char overall. I'm glad you finally got to be Emperor after having a char (Waserax) who totally deserved it but didn't get it.
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Isildur | Tue 27-Sep-11 03:05 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
5969 posts
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#102834, "RE: Re: Empire Promotions"
In response to Reply #64
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>Zaanzorbarus - deadly bard with very good overall game >knowledge. No real weakness here except maybe not enough >playtime
Maybe our times just didn't match up, but the Zaan was noticeably less present during Sivyh's last years. I assumed it's because he wanted to maximize the percent of his lifespan he'd get to spend as Emperor.
>Farror - highly skilled healer who, in his prime, could raid >cabals solo with his Shawtabby army
I feel like I dropped the ball by making Farror High Priest instead of Xanthrailles' healer. But Xanth went on vacation with the family and Farror had both seniority and play time, so I went with Farror. Xanth then deleted in protest.
>think a case could have been made for promoting Phawa up to >War Master rather than reinstating the Zaan
Maybe. Prior to the vote I had promised Zaan that he would not be punished if he followed my instructions, since he wasn't part of the original conspiracy. I could have reneged on that promise (I'm Emperor; I can do what I want) but it didn't feel right.
>Every time I saw someone do something even questionably >promotion-worthy, if you were on, it seemed like they got >promoted. That's about all a guy can do.
My algorithm was basically this:
1. Every time I logged on, I went to the palace to check the status of whoever was online. 2. If only one person is eligible to be promoted and is 2+ levels below Elite then promote him, otherwise: 3. If he's just below Elite and his sect has no leader then promote him anyway. 4. If more than one person is eligible to be promoted then favor Oaths over Citizens. This was selfish; I wanted more lowbies able to retrieve. If none of the eligible characters was an Oath then promote the guy with the highest rank/donations.
There were MANY times that folks simply weren't eligible to be promoted, lacking either ranks or donations. Had they been eligible I would have promoted them, no questions asked. Lots of times these guys were probably intentionally level sitting, but sometimes they had the ranks but not the donations. That's called shooting yourself in the foot.
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Vortex Magus | Tue 27-Sep-11 08:56 PM |
Member since 20th Apr 2005
400 posts
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#102845, "This is actually really important, in my opinion."
In response to Reply #70
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I don't recall ANYTHING which stated that there was a 24-hour promotion timer in Empire, which meant on my warmaster I was very embarrassed after promising some guy a promotion and there was still some time left before I could.
Perhaps add an echo in affects for promotion.
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#102819, "Damnit, I could never return the favor"
In response to Reply #0
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Got cocky that one time and came at you without barrier, and you made me pay.
Every other time, you'd make it away, and it was clear you knew how to avoid air major tracking (don't think I forget that mr. AirMajorsRock).
Well done on leading the empire. I would agree with others that the Empire's power waned after the coup attempt, but I wouldn't place the blame at your feet. I would say no one forced you (or the imm's) hands on promotion enough. It's one of the cabals I've never lead, and I think it must be one of the hardest, given the varying tasks an empire leader has over those of any other cabal.
So well done Isildur. Try something that doesn't hide next time
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#102804, "Clue..."
In response to Reply #0
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Not sure if you noticed this, but.... I would purposely not heal in an attempt to get you closer to death and removal of age items.
You had my loyalty up to a point. Not putting me in the seat got you less "co rejuv siv" and more " "
So many times I would log on, you would be stalking, get bored, log off with no word whatsoever. No orders for the day, no leadership, just happy sivyh play time.
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#102830, "RE: orders"
In response to Reply #55
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I logged on like 4 days in a row and never saw you, or anyone else for that matter. So it started to worry me that Empire was in the crapper. (I blame the mass anathema) We don't really have any incentives for people to oath.
I dunno, like full set of midnight armor for new recruits, just something or anything really to boost morale and numbers. It was started to get really sucky playing and I guess I wanted the captain to turn the ship around.
But now we need a new captain. Last one walked the plank.
Avast ye' scurvy dogs!
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#102762, "You will be missed!"
In response to Reply #0
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Thank you for taking the time to come by the Eternal Star to roleplay. Thank you for engaging the Heralds, and me, in your various goings-on in a way that made sense. It's completely unnecessary for anyone in any other cabal to ever involve themselves with Heralds, but when they do, it makes the Heralds (and in my biased opinion, the game) richer as a result. (Even when it is down to just one pathetic little Herald like me.)
I never felt you were "too nice". I felt Sivyh was classic "lawful evil" in every sense of the word. Civilized, devious, calculating. Coolly cordial with an ever-present yet understated threat. The Imperial that loots, pillages, and throws the weight of his power around impulsively is not, IMO, truly orderly evil, but rather, roleplaying as a neutral evil thug who is capitalizing on an orderly evil institution. The latter is more common, and easier, but your behavior is what I'd expect to be exemplified by those truly representing the Empire as a character ideology and not just an opportunity for personal gain.
If others felt you were "too nice", I can only imagine it is because they did not have the time, opportunity, or insight to see what made Sivyh tick.
Well played, and good luck with your next!
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Isildur | Mon 26-Sep-11 11:58 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
5969 posts
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#102753, "RE: (AGE DEATH) [EMPIRE] Sivyh Nakhtun the Vicious Tine..."
In response to Reply #0
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I was hoping to prolong this a little more, but damned if I'll play like a wuss just to eke out a few more assassinations. And so ends Sivyh.
Initially I rolled this character to answer the question: "Hey, I wonder how Mizfara would have gone if I'd been evil?" Back then I was constantly frustrated by the lack of targets to stalk/assassinate and always thought the grass would be greener on the other side. It is, to an extent, but it also seemed like there were an inordinate amount of Fort characters with detect hidden during Sivyh's lifetime. Maybe I'm just imagining that. Also not being able to hit people in town was a bigger annoyance than I expected it would be.
Sivyh is also a prime example of how luck and timing play into Emperor selection. Once Gvantulak died Faolai was a shoe-in to replace him, but he didn't want it so a door opened for me. Had Faolai assumed the throne, which was his for the taking, I probably would never have risen past Shadow Lord.
A few characters off the top of my head that stood out in a positive way:
Faolai, Zaanzorbarus, Volkhan, Armagon, Lohoq, Ghrimriddor, Athioles, Drayden, Puhguly, Rhone, Tavlin, Allysia, Skeeta, Dvalygg.
Couple things I wanted to respond to:
"Sivyh is too nice". Really? I mean, sure, there were a couple folks I might could have demoted that I didn't. I didn't loot people just for the hell of it. But I didn't really see this character as "nice".
"Sivyh is ruining the Empire." Not sure what I could have done differently. I was about as promote-happy as they come. If you met the requirements then I would promote you to the tier just under elite. I let sect leaders choose their elites. If your sect had no leader then I'd go ahead and make you elite. I had my reasons for not appointing a High Priest or Dread Lord, but I kept expecting someone to come along who I could feel good about giving a council seat to. Nobody ever did.
I'll hold off discussing the coup unless Zaan says its okay, since he's the last surviving player from that episode.
One last thought: mummies + anazu >>> paladins + defiance.
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Gaplemo | Tue 27-Sep-11 12:26 AM |
Member since 06th May 2010
618 posts
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#102754, "No love for your happy serial Empire hell guide? :P"
In response to Reply #2
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Hope you enjoyed the trips, not sure you had even been before that to my knowedge? Could be wrong there. Making satan the first time is always such a cool experience. Enjoyed you as Armagon, Maugauth and Ganjax, and had a positive experience with my current getting some good fights in.
Imo, great Emperor. Not all emperors have to be a #### to be successful. Respect for your fellow player is always cool, no matter what cabal.
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GoTeamUnderdog (NOT garwern) | Tue 27-Sep-11 12:49 AM |
Charter member
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#102756, "RE: (AGE DEATH) [EMPIRE] Sivyh Nakhtun the Vicious Tine..."
In response to Reply #2
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I interacted with you with a number of characters. From a young imperial no name who you may not remember, but your quote 'I want you to be MY eyes.' rang out in my head, as well as a hero or two to Garwern. There's a lot I want to say, but sadly cannot just yet. If I remember, I'll try to give you a shout out in the (hopefully far away) future when I kick the bucket.
Sivyh was extremely well played and your assassinations were smooth(I had NO idea in Calandaryl and I like to consider myself mildly observant/hard to stalk). I was laughing when you took me down when I was low 40s mainly because I said to myself "Damn, I'm outta flight potions. Tactics are gonna #### me here." but you were classy both in victory and in defeat.
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GoTeamUnderdog (NOT garwern) | Tue 27-Sep-11 08:59 AM |
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#102796, "On your last death"
In response to Reply #24
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I assume that the last death caused you to remove -age gear, resulting in the age death? I originally counted it up as a con death given how when you came back from the death you were in rattling chains.
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#102757, "RE: (AGE DEATH) [EMPIRE] Sivyh Nakhtun the Vicious Tine..."
In response to Reply #2
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I enjoyed our few interactions. As always, you continue to produce long lived and top-notch characters. The last one of yours that I remember was Sulye.
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#102759, "Absolutely loved your char"
In response to Reply #2
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I loved Sivyh on every level, even if Timnad was totally betraying him to other members of the Empire and some anathema's!
GLWYN
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#102760, "Hope you will never ever play leaders again. Thanks. NT"
In response to Reply #2
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Gaplemo | Tue 27-Sep-11 01:30 AM |
Member since 06th May 2010
618 posts
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#102763, "This is not what Anonymous posting is for. Man up."
In response to Reply #7
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Dont be a #### and say something like but but be scared to use your handle. I hope the imms out you.
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#102765, "I said. I am active - i will post everything on deletio..."
In response to Reply #10
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And please refrain from provoking people to give out their active characters.
We see result of his rulership - ruined empire for almost half of the year. And it's not a problem with one character, it's problem with whole players. Or they all are so terribly bad and only Sivyh was perfect?
Don't be silly. Look at the result.
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Gaplemo | Tue 27-Sep-11 03:05 AM |
Member since 06th May 2010
618 posts
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#102766, "How bout posting your forum handle. "
In response to Reply #12
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You can use your handle and not out your character, or who you are playing. Me posting as Gaplemo doesn't give away my current active character. You just wanted to be an anonymous ####, without any repercussions of the playerbase thinking you're a douchebag. Thats not what the anonymous posting is for.
You tell me not to be silly, but your reasoning is stupid as hell.
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#102767, "Thanks, but no."
In response to Reply #13
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It will be too easy to figure out who am I in that case. Stop trolling please and go on your way.
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#102803, "Not at all"
In response to Reply #27
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I know that you know who am i. Nothing personal worries me.... answered below with details, and stopping here. Hope you will not get it as an act of agression or revenge, because it's not.
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Welverin | Tue 27-Sep-11 03:14 PM |
Member since 23rd Oct 2009
624 posts
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#102835, "Having had personal experience with this guy..."
In response to Reply #57
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Both in game with his current and on the boards on my death thread, ooc and ic seem to blend a whole hell of a lot. It wasn't just gleebrok that he did stuff with. I experienced borderline OOC tells several times from him. Meh. Just let him either delete or con die.
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Daevryn | Tue 27-Sep-11 08:36 AM |
Member since 13th Feb 2007
11117 posts
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#102788, "RE: This is not what Anonymous posting is for. Man up."
In response to Reply #10
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You're correct; as has been stated many times, we have "anonymous" posting on the Battlefield so that people can post with their current character names without needing to always register a new handle, not so people can take anonymous pot shots.
He's someone who thought he should be promoted to Dreadlord and Sivyh clearly didn't agree.
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N b M | Tue 27-Sep-11 08:42 AM |
Member since 29th Sep 2005
444 posts
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#102789, "RE: This is not what Anonymous posting is for. Man up."
In response to Reply #30
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It's a hard life in Empire when you don't have OOC connections to promote you to a leader spot.
But pretty much everything in his post is skewed and most everyone agrees that there hasn't been a decent Emperor that kept the politics moving like Sivyh did, in a long long time.
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#102802, "Of course."
In response to Reply #31
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>But pretty much everything in his post is skewed and most >everyone agrees that there hasn't been a decent Emperor that >kept the politics moving like Sivyh did, in a long long time.
Becuase they played on opposite side and it's so sweet to have one of the enemies constantly down, or deleted long ago. I'm a bad guy who dare to blame your idol! Doh. Sorry about that.
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incognito | Tue 27-Sep-11 01:36 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
4495 posts
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#102824, "Isildur's examples sound sound to me"
In response to Reply #44
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To be frank, if I'd heard you were being a douche to enemies, claiming my authority, and whining, I'd have blocked your promotion too. After I called a blood reckoning.
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incognito | Tue 27-Sep-11 01:34 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
4495 posts
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#102823, "Dunno"
In response to Reply #31
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I got high priest under Elhe and I didn't know him at all until quite a lot later.
Oh course, I'll never know whether it might have influenced my coup attempt, but that's kind of a moot point since I managed to post a note to all of the shadow sect when I addressed it to "Shadow Lord Fred".
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#102799, "You are wrong."
In response to Reply #30
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It have nothing to do with personally me and my character. It have issue with the whole leadership and keeping empire empty.
Emperor have a lot of power to bring new blood into empire. He have bards to send propaganda notes (with are working with better effect than he/you are thinking). When there are hard times for a cabal, leaders are doing their work - recruiting, ordering/asking cabalmates to find new blood and recruit, and etc etc etc.
Nothing of this have been done; Sivyh played solo game without caring much for the cabal at all. And you cannot argue with it, because there are result: empire is empty.
As chartacter, he was deadly and probably roleplaying well (not sure, I've heard him talking 4 times during last 4-5 months). But as for a cabal leader - totally worhless.
Yes, i can understand - he probably got upset after the coup and decided to piss everyone else, who tried to overthrow him. Dunno for his reasons, and if it was on purpose (personally, i am sure he did it on purpose, but maybe i am thiking too bad about a good guy).
You think i am upset because of me, and you are totally wrong. Our times did not match with him, that's first. I know his Ic reasons (two) not to promote me further - that's fine and not this caused my anger.
And it's not deal with the Empire too. It's a problem with leaership. Leaders like that making cabals dead/empty, and this makes gam far less interesting. This is what makes me sad.
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Swordsosaurus | Tue 27-Sep-11 12:01 PM |
Member since 16th May 2010
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#102817, "I see you, Legion"
In response to Reply #41
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Leadership posisitions are not there to fit a mold, it's a way for mortals to take part of politics in game. To say, "he should have done this, he should have done that," destroys the purpose. From the sounds of it, a lot of players thought he was pretty great. You may disagree, but the players will always disagree on the direction of a particular cabal. It's not about a right and wrong way to do things.
>Our times did not match with him, that's first.
I thought that if Anonymous played CF, it would play Outlander. This only strengthens my suspicions that Anonymous is a government plot.
(?) We are Anonymous / ! \ We do not forgive ||_|| We do not forget _||_
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TMNS | Wed 28-Sep-11 12:03 AM |
Member since 10th Jun 2009
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#102847, "I went Empire for two reasons. One was Sivyh."
In response to Reply #41
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The other is neither here nor there.
Just saying, he was so cool to interact with for my previous character that I rolled a character that was specifically meant to interact with him (at the detriment to my overall power).
I joke around about the ESL/Russian ####, but seriously, you come off in these posts very obtuse to the overall ability of Sivyh to be very very competant in PK and also just as competant in RP. All because he didn't promote you. Which would have happened in the Empire's of Eoria/Kostyan/Ahtieli most likely; their style of play/evil differs from American players, it's only natural and there is nothing wrong with it and I in fact enjoy several evil characters played by ESL/Russians...mostly every Shapa/Elhe char.
Man up, admit you're bitching because you're char wasn't as good as you thought.
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Gaplemo | Wed 28-Sep-11 12:38 AM |
Member since 06th May 2010
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#102848, "Basically yeah"
In response to Reply #78
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Sivyh was a fantastic Emperor. Just straight awesome, I had 3 imperials under him, and all of them were either elites, or sect leaders, and he didn't know any of them were the same person. He was awesome about promoting, and he was solid on policies and rp.
Now that I got a good guess who this guy is, I understand. But anonymous bashing of a great character and whining here not only will make you enemies in the playerbase, it won't make the imms want to go out of their way to do you any favors...and if i'm correct on who it is he probably shouldn't ruffle the staffs feathers at this point in his characters life.
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#102801, "Also, thanks for the insight ;)"
In response to Reply #30
Edited on Tue 27-Sep-11 09:47 AM
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Now i know for sure that you are tracking people and connecting their forum personas with their chars and that a forum posting can affect their chars IC life.
I'm quitting from the posting here since it's something like entering a tiamat's lair with only armor spell up.
Edited: sorry for breaking a forum rules. I thought it can be used to keep anonymous to keep your persona not-linked with the active characters. I won't post here anymore anonymously, if ever.
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Daevryn | Tue 27-Sep-11 10:16 AM |
Member since 13th Feb 2007
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#102805, "RE: Also, thanks for the insight ;)"
In response to Reply #43
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>Now i know for sure that you are tracking people and >connecting their forum personas with their chars
Unfortunately for you, your speech patterns are extremely idiosyncratic. It doesn't take The Arcane, P.I. to spot you.
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#102807, "AHahha HOW DO YOU KNOW?!?!"
In response to Reply #47
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He always formats it in this way.... He always uses these eight words.... Etc etc etc
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incognito | Tue 27-Sep-11 01:38 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
4495 posts
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#102825, "It's pretty simple"
In response to Reply #43
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It is to stop your character being linked to your forum persona, but there has always been a rule that you don't use it to take pot shots anonymously.
The fact you broke that rule gives him every right to check and then reveal who you are. I'm surprised he didn't actually post your character's name.
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Abernyte | Tue 27-Sep-11 04:34 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#102771, "Shaddup already! Each Emperor is individual and so you..."
In response to Reply #7
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Vortex Magus | Tue 27-Sep-11 04:47 AM |
Member since 20th Apr 2005
400 posts
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#102772, "You guys are clearly misinterpreting this."
In response to Reply #7
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Sivyh was so good it made anon imperial choke with jealousy. He's afraid that if Isildur plays another leader, he'll start cutting himself out of depression.
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#102773, "Exactly."
In response to Reply #18
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Or just don't like leaders that do not do their leader's things and playing solo game. Too bad that the coup was so dumb and anathemized itself - probably now one more cabal would be in the game, instead of being empty/full of inactive players.
Same happened before to other cabals. Imo, if you are leader - you are responsible for the cabal and players who are playin there. If you do not care for them - step down.
Game with active players and active cabals is much, much more interesting. I completely understand Sivyh's position and role reasons why he was such a ####ass, but leader responsibilities is not only playing the character - it's dealing with players that are playing the game, and making fun not only for yourself, but also for others.
Maybe i am too althruistic, but this is how i see leaders duty.
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incognito | Tue 27-Sep-11 01:39 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
4495 posts
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#102826, "If no one is good enough"
In response to Reply #19
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Why reward them? Seems simple to me.
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#102761, "HAHA"
In response to Reply #2
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I knew this was you! I don't know why, maybe because your basic decency and sense of sportsmanship shines through
Good times.
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#102764, "RE: (AGE DEATH) [EMPIRE] Sivyh Nakhtun the Vicious Tine..."
In response to Reply #2
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I really liked Sivyh, of course I still planned on over throwing you at some point, but then the rest of the council rushed everything and ruined it. Not sure what they were thinking, we were on such a high point at the time. I don't mind you talking about the coup at this point, I knew they weren't going to vote me in because I wasn't included in the original talks so thought the best course of action was to play the loyalist card for when #### fell apart for them. I did think you could be a bit soft at times, especially when it came to inter sect politics. I really like the dynamic of higher ranking imperials being able to bully lower ranking ones to some extent. Of course payback is a bitch if the situation changes. You seemed to put the kabosh on all of that. I thought you did a great job with everything else, though I personally would have liked to see a little more emphasis on doing things like beating Tiamat then raid, defend, reraid, rinse, repeat all the time. The Empire will definitely miss you, and I know our enemies will be a little more relaxed.
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Isildur | Tue 27-Sep-11 08:46 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
5969 posts
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#102791, "RE: (AGE DEATH) [EMPIRE] Sivyh Nakhtun the Vicious Tine..."
In response to Reply #11
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Okay, so, the coup. From what I can tell, Lohoq and Cotzibue never did figure out exactly what went down. Maybe I never did either; if Enlilth stops by he can clear up anything I get wrong. Here's my perspective:
Cotzibue and some non-sect leader were the first to approach me about there being a vote. I didn't believe Cotzibue at first (since I regarded him as completely untrustworthy) and thought he was trying to frame Lohoq (whom I trusted). This is ironic since Lohoq was actually the chief conspirator. Apparently Daevryn was on his ass to make a move, hence the ill-advised coup.
Initially I either didn't know you needed three sect leaders to launch a coup, or I thought you (Zaan) were in on it with Cotzibue and Farror. Lohoq was the only one I was pretty sure was innocent. I knew that my only shot was to get a hung vote and hope Enlilth preferred me to the rest of you. I assumed Farror and Cotzibue were a voting bloc, so I tried to convince you and Lohoq to vote for each other in order to thwart Cotzibue. My logic was that Cotzibue was an immortal undead and I was an elderly mortal, so Cotzibue as Emperor was worse for your personal designs than me staying on the Throne (since I would die soon). I also emphasized the fact that, if I retained the throne, I would anath Cotzibue and eliminate her as competition for after I was gone.
Even though I realized at some point that either you or Lohoq had to have been in on it (I suspected you, not Lohoq), I played dumb and treated whomever I was talking as the one loyal party. When talking to Zaan it was that dirty Lohoq who was conspiring with Cotzibue and Farror. When talking to Lohoq it was Zaan that was the dirty one. Etc. Simultaneously I approached both Cotzibue and Farror and informed them of my suspicion that Lohoq/Zaan were a voting bloc, and that they needed to vote for each other in order to block Zaan from taking the Throne. I professed my belief that Cotzibue and Farror were innocent and had just gotten caught up in Lohoq's nefarious designs. I promised they would not be punished if we managed to stop Lohoq/Zaan's designs, and pointed out that Lohoq/Zaan would probably anath them if either of them got the Throne.
Miraculously, everybody did exactly what I wanted them to do. Cotz/Farror voted for each other and Lohoq/Zaan voted for each other. Enlilth cast the tie-breaking vote and chose me. He then told me Zaan was the only guy who wasn't a conspirator, so I set about restoring him to his former position. Everybody getting anath'd was actually an accident- I had wanted the loyal party to stay where he was, but there was some miscommunication. Also I didn't know for sure who the loyal party was until after the vote.
>came to inter sect politics. I really like the dynamic of >higher ranking imperials being able to bully lower ranking >ones to some extent.
Eh. I'm fine with some bullying, but when it turns into, "I'm higher ranked than you and I like that shiny piece of gear. Give it to me or I demote you," that's just lame.
>though I personally would have liked to see a little more >emphasis on doing things like beating Tiamat then raid, >defend, reraid, rinse, repeat all the time.
PvE doesn't really excite me. You could probably tell from how reluctant I was to spend ~4 hours on that hell trip. Other than the pimp gear, I had no interest in killing Tiamat just to say I'd killed Tiamat. The raiding thing was just because, when you weren't around, I usually lacked the firepower to raid anyone. So when I had a bard or healer online I felt like I needed to make up for lost time.
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#102810, "Well from what I could understand, Farror never voted. ..."
In response to Reply #33
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I got a weird message in the game about the vote. IIRC it said I could vote for Lohoq, Zaan or Farror, which made me inclined to think that Cotzibue voted for Farror, Lohoq for Zaan and Zaan for Lohoq and Farror never cast another vote.
What is pretty hilarious about the whole thing is everyone (farror included) told me they were going to vote for me, which at that point I knew I was boned.
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TMNS | Tue 27-Sep-11 06:07 PM |
Member since 10th Jun 2009
2670 posts
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#102840, "Dude, we killed every dragon but the blue in that one l..."
In response to Reply #11
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...then the rest of you jerks decided to roleplay evil power-hungry bastards.
Bastards.
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#102768, "RE: (AGE DEATH) [EMPIRE] Sivyh Nakhtun the Vicious Tine..."
In response to Reply #2
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Try looking at it from the other side sometime! Sometimes it feels like 90% of my opposing cabal range are detect-hidden capable, and the ones which really aren't detect-hidden capable are uncaballed, which means they can sit in the middle of nowhere for ten gajillion hours where I'll never find them. From Empire there was you, like two other shadows, Gravizk, and Zaan. From Scion there's Tavlin and Obregon, and Lisos who works with them a ton.
So sad.
Anyway, I loved Sivyh. I hope you didn't mind that name-drop I threw into our first interaction, I figure I'd let you know that Kasir made it into my role.
Honestly, Sivyh was a badass. I remember you telling me that I was a threat to you, and thinking "wtf crack cocaine you smoking! Sivyh beats my ass!". I think Vallinane could theoretically kill Sivyh one on one if every single thing went perfectly, but in reality, a hundred plus garrottes on random people so far and I've never gotten that absolute perfect situation. Always someone else to unbind or wake them, or some binding breaks at a critical juncture, or whatever else. That iron weapon + sigil + doublespin combo you had going just freaking raped me.
Thanks for the fights and being such a positive, awesome character for the game.
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#102769, "RE: (AGE DEATH) [EMPIRE] Sivyh Nakhtun the Vicious Tine..."
In response to Reply #2
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Over several characters sivyh was always a fun enemy.
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#102774, "RE: (AGE DEATH) [EMPIRE] Sivyh Nakhtun the Vicious Tine..."
In response to Reply #2
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Man I loved me some Sivyh. That was very well played. I'm not sure how many times you assasinated me, I'd have to look at my PBF, but the one during my retrieval I knew was coming, should have quaffed immediately, but instead I did something stupid like threw out a fire and brimstone I think. Well done, man well done.
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#102798, "Oops, intended to reply to original Sivyh goodbye post."
In response to Reply #20
Edited on Tue 27-Sep-11 09:10 AM
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Despite how I acted in character, I actually really grew to like Sivyh as I got into the higher ranks. I am pretty upset that I never actually got to fight you (the times I did didn't really seem to count as I am sure you noticed) but in our brief interactions you responded perfectly to Caerdryn's insistence that you were a coward.
So, well done and good luck with your next.
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Sugabear (NOT Puhguly) | Tue 27-Sep-11 05:28 AM |
Charter member
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#102775, "Thank god! Im never going to lose con again!"
In response to Reply #2
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Just kidding about the not losing con again thing, but jesus I think you assassinated me 10 times or more. I personally was a huge fan of the banter we had and I think you were a legit game changer every time you logged in. Fantastic char.
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#102777, "Excellent character, as usual."
In response to Reply #2
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I had lots of good times with various imperials and you were among the top. Solid Rp, consistent presence, and skilled. By the end it seemed like you made it a point to make nexun's lives hell (though as you said, lots of them made it easy for you to do so). I know there was a technical war that began after I was was outcast, but I was doing everything I could to undermine it. I tried befriending Cotzibue with gifts and aid (I thought she would overthrow you) and Wiril and I interacted quite a bit (he even got me humansunder through an assassination).
I must say, when we did speak, it was always enjoyable. That last little bit after I sacced the codex, had I known you were going to age die, would have made it all the more fun to banter with you. Was hoping I could get you to come at me solo, but even the times you did I just never had a good answer for fighting you, so I generally had to run from you after a few rounds since I'd be maladicted to hell. As you said, it wasn't fear, just prudence, and people often mistake the two. I had to respect Sivyh and his ability to beat me to hell better than most.
Just all around well done. Another high quality character like you are known for.
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#102785, "Long live the emperor"
In response to Reply #2
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I interacted with you previously with another character. A ranger of some kind, and you were chasing me all over emerald. Felars are just brutal in the right hands, and you definitely did well.
As Rolas I tried to force you several times to make you feed me your underlings. You never went for it, and always came yourself to retrieve the codex. Classy, but disappointing for Rolas. I hope your detractors realize how un-fun you could have made it for them. Anyway, nice job, and go outtie for your next!
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#102786, "shame we never got to talk"
In response to Reply #2
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You taught me an important facet of smear mud, and reminded me about an important facet of kansetsuwaza, so... thanks for that. And goddamn, you were lucky... but that's not an insult, or to take away from your probably impressive pk record
Anyway, all my congrats just for sticking it out for so long. Sad-face for never getting a chance to even the score. Good luck with the next.
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#102790, "RE: (AGE DEATH) [EMPIRE] Sivyh Nakhtun the Vicious Tine..."
In response to Reply #2
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Awesome Emperor!
Despite what you might have thought, I was loyal to last to you and to imperial law. Had you raised Easog to War Master he would never have thought of overthrowing you and would have told you if anyone else ever approached him about it. To bad I just couldn't hack it in hero range, but thems the breaks when you have a little played class/cabal/legacy combo that you want to try out.
Sorry I couldn't stick it out and help more, and thank you for being an awesome Emperor.
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Bell (NOT Oryntohr) | Tue 27-Sep-11 08:49 AM |
Charter member
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#102792, "RE: (AGE DEATH) [EMPIRE] Sivyh Nakhtun the Vicious Tine..."
In response to Reply #2
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Great char. I thought Sivyh was a good emperor, and that staying at the top of the empire for that long is a feat in itself. Of course, playing from the other side, I'm only going to see and know so much, but everything I saw fit very well, imho. I tried to get some arpee going on after some of our fights, but it never seemed to go anywhere. Not sure if Sivyh didn't think Oryn was worth talking to, or if you just had too many people talking to you and I couldn't stay out of camo long enough to get the convo going. No matter.
GLWYN
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Bell (NOT Oryntohr) | Tue 27-Sep-11 07:43 PM |
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#102842, "Watching you finally switch swords"
In response to Reply #37
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at writhing or convulsing or whenever was just painful from a player's perspective. Nothing feels quite like waiting that long for an impulse no lag command to go through, and then having the train be completely off the tracks by the time it happens. Proof that a blind squirrel finds a nut here and there when they can spam bearcharge like it's going out of style.
Again, awesome char. I even offered your skin to Neltouda, although she didn't seem as into the whole people-skin thing as Oryn. heh
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#102808, "RE: (AGE DEATH) [EMPIRE] Sivyh Nakhtun the Vicious Tine..."
In response to Reply #2
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Really well played char, I did think you were a little soft, and tried to feed you stuff from different characters when it was clear there were shinanigins afoot. I liked our interactions in the early, mid and end phases too. The final show down on the ocean was gonna be a delete for me regardless, but you got intercepted by Lisos, then we had you both then snatched rags from the jaws of victory, tattered and disappointed, would have been a glorious end either way. Thanks for all the hook ups, you felt decidedly less dangerous to Gleebrok but later chars showed me there was still teeth in the old cat yet GLWYN
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#102809, "Empire Ruiner!!!!!"
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How dare you build the strongest Empire anyone has seen in the past 2 years! How dare you appoint somewhat competent people who don't speak an eastern european language!!!
Anyway, I liked Sivyh a lot, you slapped me around when I needed it and you were encouraging when I needed it. I know you completely believed me, which is why when you pulled me in the Sect hall and asked about the supposed coup I had to tell you the truth, well partially. Anyway, once Zaan gives it the thumbs up I'll go ahead and post my thoughts to it if the IMMs are ok with it.
Anyway, liked Sivyh a lot, people will bag on an Emperor with hide but I thought you were a solid presence and built a really strong Empire.
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MoetEtChandon | Tue 27-Sep-11 11:51 AM |
Member since 26th Jul 2010
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#102815, "Great character"
In response to Reply #2
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And as far as I could see a great Emperor.
It's a shame I didn't get to interact more. You really shouldn't have gotten me that one time, near Tir-Talath. I am always very careful avoiding getting assassinated, but applicants were pulling me left and right: "Yeah, I'm here. No, wait, I relocated and now am here. Or, no, I am back where I was before ..." Meaning that 'I' got nowhere but in a spot waiting to get wacked.
- Thuorn
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TMNS | Tue 27-Sep-11 06:00 PM |
Member since 10th Jun 2009
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#102839, "Just an absolutely fabulous job."
In response to Reply #2
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I loved our "deal" for the strange bracers. Such an evil awesome thing to do.
Was fun running with you later. What can I say, you do hidden classes just about as good as anyone I've ever seen. Sivyh was a truckasauras rex, and Eljassir would have never betrayed him...unless he was deposed.
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