September 28, 2008
- 2 new edges have been added ROLL THE BONES and SPIN THE WHEEL
- Air forms have been rebalanced
*** Damage output & skills for all air forms redone
*** 18 new forms have been added
*** 14 new skills have been added
*** Eagle, Crane, Bloodhawk, Bat, Gyrfalcon, Hawk, Albatross, Crow, Heron have been removed
*** Osprey moved from tier 1 to tier 2
*** With all the removed forms, all air shifters will force a re-roll on air forms
*** Peck always has a chance to target the eyes, blinding an opponent

March 2, 2008
- Stats (Str, Int, Wis, Dex, Con) for many forms have been redone
- Water forms have been rebalanced
*** Damage output & skills for all water forms redone
*** 16 new forms have been added
*** 21 new skills have been added
*** Tarpon, Jellyfish have been removed
*** Electric Eel moved from tier 2 to tier 1
*** Hippopotomus moved from tier 3 to tier 2
*** Otter move from tier 2 to tier 3

November 23, 2007
- 6 new skills have been added
- Con maladictions will affect regeneration skills
- AIR: 25 movement cost per tick in the Skies
- AIR: Can shift between air forms in the Skies
- Armadillo - retract is now a toggle & can be done outside combat
- Additional skills added to wolverine & armadillo
- New Greater Enlivens
*** Offense: Unstable mutation
*** Air: Hearing of the Barn Owl
*** Utility: Stride of the Cheetah

October 27, 2007
- ENLIVEN:
*** 'detect invis' added
- OFFENSE/DEFENSE/UTILITY/WATER/AIR:
*** Form Families have been defined for all forms (see your form list)
*** All forms now have the ability to kinspeak
*** Forms with *blend, *scatter, *tracking can tell their specific terrain via the prompt
*** Updated the "Skill" command to be more descriptive for automatic skills
- OFFENSE/DEFENSE/UTILITY:
*** Movement cost, movement lag, stat bonus, and armor class balanced for all forms
- DEFENSE:
*** Komodo dragon rake has been reduced
- UTILITY
*** Utility forms have been rebalanced
*** Skills for all utility forms have been redone
*** 14 new forms have been added
*** 20 new skills have been added

July 7, 2007
- Mana upkeep cost of forms is based on shapefocus. Major forms being cheaper than minor
- Defense forms have been rebalanced
*** Defensive abilities for all forms redone
*** Skills for almost all forms have been redone
*** 11 new forms have been added
*** 19 new skills have been added
*** Pachyderm moved from tier 3 to tier 1

June 24, 2007
- Offense forms have been rebalanced
*** Damage output of all forms redone
*** Skills for many forms have been redone
*** 12 new forms have been added
*** 15 new skills have been added
*** Panther moved from tier 1 to tier 3
*** Rhino moved from tier 3 to tier 1
*** Timber wolf merged with wolf

May 27, 2007
- Save vs. has been redone for all forms, they are roughly half of what they were before
- Save vs. gear will now affect you in form as well
- All shapeshifters now have greater enlivens based on their major focus (See HELP GREATER ENLIVEN)

May 20, 2007
- You can send tells to shifters in form using their form name
- enliven invis, enliven cancellation added

May 11, 2007
- Improved low-level defense skills by about 10%
*** Higher damage reduction against low level opponents
*** Higher damage reduction against low to mid level opponents
*** Better dodging against low level opponents
*** Better dodging against low to mid level opponents
- Shapeshift spell moved to 14
- Shapeshift skill moved to 28
- Added additional form to minor focus (retroactive for current shifters)
- Updated level at which forms are attained (retroactive for current shifters)

         Major Forms     Minor Forms
Tier 4   14-16 
Tier 3   20-22           23-25
Tier 2   28-30           31-33
Tier 1   42-44           47-48

So long, and thanks for all the fish!

So when can we expect shapeshifter edges to be in (aside from the two that went in with the forms?)

By the, I LOVE those two edges. I spun the wheel, and won big! Never needed to roll the bones. I got one of the two forms I was wanting on the first try.

Well, right now I'm working on a project that isn't shapeshifter edges. So, not likely to be extremely soon.

I also don't have enough ideas stored up for shapeshifter edges that I actually like to be a reasonably full set, even if I were free to start on them today.

I love the skills on the forms and I only have my 4th and 3rd tiers!

Bzzzzz!

-----Abernyte

n/t

So long, and thanks for all the fish!

Kudos Big man.

n/t

So long, and thanks for all the fish!

So many new shifters, all waiting for that one sucker.

n/t

So long, and thanks for all the fish!

n/t

So long, and thanks for all the fish!

<3 the changes

Though I expect that to take longer than defense did. I took off the thursday & friday after the 4th, and pretty much coded 8 hours a day over that 5-day weekend.

So long, and thanks for all the fish!

That's a 40 hour workweek.

I could bring milk and cookies

Yhorian

Its almost Oct! Wheee so are we still on track with the utility changes for oct? Im itching to try out a utility shifter.

>Its almost Oct! Wheee so are we still on track with the
>utility changes for oct? Im itching to try out a utility
>shifter.

October is a long month, I got tons of time!

All that being said, I've got all the forms in, all the skills defined, a bunch more balancing (including tweaking some of the offense/defense forms a bit more numbers-wise), and probably coded up half the skills I want this time. Still got a fair sized stack of work ahead of me, but I'd say I'm on track.

So long, and thanks for all the fish!

I ever tell you that I <3 you? Utility/utility shifter here I come

If I was a female fire giant I'd totally be your breeding wench.

It's October 27th, dun dun dun! Running low on time Zug-Zug. :p

n/t

So long, and thanks for all the fish!

Soooo...water shifters next? Second tier needs to like...not suck so much Plus the fact that there's only two forms for both first and second tier each :p

Though I have no idea what the timeline for it will be right now. I'm at the endgame of the product cycle at work, so that's just killing me. The holidays are coming and that means less CF time, more family time.

So long, and thanks for all the fish!

How do we help out?
How did yo want idea's kicked your way?
A certain format... lined out a certain way?

and thanks for everything

>How do we help out?

Zulg's Corner forum

>How did yo want idea's kicked your way?

Post 'em. If you really don't want them seen by the general public, email them to me.

>A certain format... lined out a certain way?

Nah, I go through the forums every now and then and pull out stuff I want to do and put them on my list. I've done a ton with the suggestions I've had so far.

>and thanks for everything

It's one of my favorite classes, and one that's been neglected forever.

So long, and thanks for all the fish!

random request time:

since water won't be in full swing for a while, would it be possible to get maybe a partial update for them, maybe more than two forms for each for the first two tiers and make the first two tiers so unnecessarily burdening?

>random request time:
>
>since water won't be in full swing for a while, would it be
>possible to get maybe a partial update for them, maybe more
>than two forms for each for the first two tiers and make the
>first two tiers so unnecessarily burdening?

I'm happy with how the changes have rolled out thus far, and breaking it up even farther just feels too piecemeal to me.

So long, and thanks for all the fish!

n/t

So long, and thanks for all the fish!

And my forms.

Is that wrong? Call me!

Yhorian

Any chance we could get some info? A list with perhaps what foci and any other tidbits you wanted to share would be awesome. I'm not looking for full form stats, but any info would be neat. Now if only I had time to actually play....

>Any chance we could get some info? A list with perhaps what
>foci and any other tidbits you wanted to share would be
>awesome. I'm not looking for full form stats, but any info
>would be neat. Now if only I had time to actually play....

I won't provide you a list, because really...that would spoil the surprise. I will tell you however that all the forms were added to the offense bucket, and you can expect similar expansion of all the rest of the buckets as I get the time to update them and add skills.

So long, and thanks for all the fish!

We get to know what skills/etc other classes get. I'd be ok with shapeshifter skills having helpfiles and forms having helpfiles, but then I'm also ok with the surprise... Shapies can be different. I give you permissions. But just this once, got it?

And because I said so (and because that's the way it's always been, but mostly because I said so)

So long, and thanks for all the fish!

Say you had an existing low/mid level offensive shifter. Would you need to reroll to take advantage of possibly getting one of the new forms?

Thanks!

EXB

>Say you had an existing low/mid level offensive shifter.
>Would you need to reroll to take advantage of possibly getting
>one of the new forms?

If you have used the shapefocus major all of your major forms are set and you cannot get any of the new forms. The same for minor. If you have not yet used the shapefocus major/minor, you have the opportunity to get the new forms.

So long, and thanks for all the fish!

n/t

So long, and thanks for all the fish!

Damn that's some good stuff. Kudos to you and whoever else came up with this stuff, and thanks for coding it up. Just made shifters ALOT more interesting and diverse. Can't wait to see what you have in store for the forms themselves.

That which does not kill us,
makes us stronger.

nt

n/t

So long, and thanks for all the fish!

What if there are more than one of that form around? Like two shifters in ferret form. Is there a "tell ferret" and "tell 2.ferret" or what?

But I do know that you'll always be risking telling an eeeevil ferret your innermost secrets. Hilarity ensues!

n/t

So long, and thanks for all the fish!

<3 Awesome! *huggles his new form since the first third form wasn't wonderful*

(nt)

- Upper echelon forms get a stat bonus when shifted that is now visible in the affect list

e.g.
Physical effect: 'form bonus' modifies dexterity by 4 for -1 hours.

So long, and thanks for all the fish!

If bones are broken, arterys severed, etc... but the stat loss is covered by gear/boni - will you still suffer lag shifting form-to-form?

Assuming no bleeding, just typical stat loss skills building up.

Yhorian

>If bones are broken, arterys severed, etc... but the stat
>loss is covered by gear/boni - will you still suffer lag
>shifting form-to-form?

Sure will. Your bones are still broken.

>Assuming no bleeding, just typical stat loss skills building
>up.

You never would have the lag based on stat loss alone, it has always been associated with certain affects.

So long, and thanks for all the fish!

nt

Two questions!
One, does -dex/str gear affect them in the same manner?
And two
by + skill gear you mean + str/dex gear? Or is + skill a new thing?

>Two questions!
>One, does -dex/str gear affect them in the same manner?

Yup.

>And two by + skill gear you mean + str/dex gear? Or is + skill a new thing?

+str/+int/+wis/+dex/+con/+chr

So long, and thanks for all the fish!