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Ceiglore (Guest)Sat 13-Mar-04 05:28 PM

  
#4200, "Bartering and practicing"


          

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<73%hp 100%m 8%mv 5927tnl> p
axe 84%( 84%) 57cp dagger 1%( 1%) 57cp
flail 1%( 1%) 57cp mace 76%( 76%) 57cp
polearm 72%( 72%) 57cp spear 73%( 73%) 57cp
sword 72%( 72%) 57cp staff 73%( 73%) 57cp
whip 1%( 1%) 57cp dirt kicking 81%( 81%) 63cp
disarm 70%( 70%) 84cp dodge 1%( 1%) 93cp
enhanced damage 81%( 81%) 57cp hand to hand 69%( 69%) 57cp
kick 1%( 1%) 78cp gore 82%( 82%) 57cp
parry 76%( 76%) 57cp rescue 1%( 1%) 57cp
second attack 74%( 74%) 69cp third attack 35%( 35%) 90cp
fast healing 70%( 70%) 72cp recall 100%(100%) 57cp
shield block 72%( 72%) 57cp dual wield 69%( 69%) 90cp
feint 79%( 79%) 84cp
You have 21 practice sessions left.

<73%hp 100%m 8%mv 5927tnl> p dodge
p dodge
You pay 93 copper to practice.
You practice dodge.

<75%hp 100%m 13%mv 5927tnl> It would cost 93 copper to practice that.
You cannot afford the cost.

<75%hp 100%m 13%mv 5927tnl> wo
You have 0 gold, 1 silver, and 0 copper, which is worth 20 copper.
You have 51793 experience and need 5927 more experience to gain a rank.

<75%hp 100%m 13%mv 5927tnl> rest
You rest.

<75%hp 100%m 13%mv 5927tnl> p dodge sword
You can't practice dodge sword.

<75%hp 100%m 13%mv 5927tnl> wo
You have 0 gold, 1 silver, and 0 copper, which is worth 20 copper.
You have 51793 experience and need 5927 more experience to gain a rank.

<75%hp 100%m 13%mv 5927tnl> practice dodge sword
You can't practice dodge sword.

<75%hp 100%m 13%mv 5927tnl> wo
You have 0 gold, 1 silver, and 0 copper, which is worth 20 copper.
You have 51793 experience and need 5927 more experience to gain a rank.

<75%hp 100%m 13%mv 5927tnl> in
You are carrying:
a spiked hand axe
(Glowing) (Humming) the short sword of quickness
a metal canteen insulated in a wolf's pelt
a large sack
a practice polearm
a practice flail
a practice sword
a practice mace

<75%hp 100%m 13%mv 5927tnl> skills

Level 1: axe 84% dagger 1%
flail 1% mace 76%
polearm 72% spear 73%
sword 72% staff 73%
whip 1% enhanced damage 81%
hand to hand 69% gore 82%
parry 76% rescue 1%
recall 100% shield block 72%
Level 3: dirt kicking 81%
Level 5: second attack 74%
Level 6: fast healing 70%
Level 8: kick 1%
Level 10: disarm 70% feint 79%
Level 12: third attack 35% dual wield 69%
Level 13: dodge 35%
Level 14: haggle n/a
Level 15: bash n/a trip n/a
shield cleave n/a pugil n/a
meditation n/a
Level 16: charge n/a
Level 18: berserk n/a lash n/a

look sword

<80%hp 100%m 21%mv 5927tnl> look sword
This blade is very well made. It is light and flexible, and you even seem
a step faster than before when you hold it.

The short sword of quickness is a sword, made of steel, and weighs 5 pounds 15 ounces.

<80%hp 100%m 21%mv 5927tnl> in
You are carrying:
a spiked hand axe
(Glowing) (Humming) the short sword of quickness
a metal canteen insulated in a wolf's pelt
a large sack
a practice polearm
a practice flail
a practice sword
a practice mace

<80%hp 100%m 21%mv 5927tnl> wo
af
You have 0 gold, 1 silver, and 0 copper, which is worth 20 copper.
You have 51793 experience and need 5927 more experience to gain a rank.

<80%hp 100%m 21%mv 5927tnl> You are affected by:

<80%hp 100%m 21%mv 5927tnl> rest
You are already resting.

<80%hp 100%m 21%mv 5927tnl> who pk
<13 Orc Ber> (PK) Sguk the Breaker of Shields
*13 Min War* (PK) Ceiglore the Swashbuckler

Players found: 2

<80%hp 100%m 21%mv 5927tnl> in
You are carrying:
a spiked hand axe
(Glowing) (Humming) the short sword of quickness
a metal canteen insulated in a wolf's pelt
a large sack
a practice polearm
a practice flail
a practice sword
a practice mace

<80%hp 100%m 21%mv 5927tnl> eq
You are using:
<worn on finger> a pale white skull ring
<worn on finger> a pale white skull ring
<worn on body> (Glowing) a shirt of shining silver chain
<worn on arms> some black leather sleeves
<worn as shield> an orcish shield
<worn about body> a pitch-black parka
<worn about waist> (Humming) a tight mithril coil
<worn around wrist> an engraved silver bracelet
<worn around wrist> an engraved silver bracelet
<wielded> (Humming) a cruel battle axe

<80%hp 100%m 21%mv 5927tnl> af
You are affected by:

<80%hp 100%m 21%mv 5927tnl> help practice
PRACTICE PRACTICES PRACTICING
Syntax: PRACTICE
PRACTICE <skill|spell|supplication|power>
practice <skill|spell|supplication|power> <object>

PRACTICE without an argument tells you your learned and effective ability
level in all the skills and spells available to you. You can check this
anywhere. Doing so in the same room as your guildmaster will also show
you the cost for practicing each skill/spell/supplication. Your effective
ability level will appear in parentheses after your learned ability level.

PRACTICE with an argument practices that skill or spell. Use the full
name of the skill or spell, and you need not include quotes. Example:

practice detect invis

Your learning percentage will be at 75% once fully practiced at a guild
master. You must be at a guild master to practice and (after level 10)
must also be able to pay for the practice time. Guildmasters in your
hometown will teach you at a lower cost. Practicing effects your learned
ability level, not your effective ability level.

If you do not wish to pay in cash, you may attempt to barter an object for


the service. Example syntax:

practice detect invis necklace

The higher your intelligence, the more you will learn at each practice
session, and the faster you will improve skills while adventuring. The higher
your wisdom, the more practice sessions you will have each time you gain a
level. Unused sessions are saved until you do use them.

See also: SKILLS SPELLS REHEARSE POWERS SUPPLICATIONS 'SKILL IMPROVEMENT'

<80%hp 100%m 21%mv 5927tnl> look
The north half of a warehouse
The warehouse has a high ceiling and well scuffed floors. A circle is
painted on the floor in the center for sparring in. Along the north wall
is a large mirror for checking form. There are mats piled in the north
west corner for wrestling, and a target for knife throwing is adjacent to
them. Weapon racks are mounted on the east wall and along the west wall
is a table with a few chairs and a bench. Hanging from the walls above
the table and the racks are various trophies of animals.


Galbrin stands here shouting at the inexperienced warriors.

<80%hp 100%m 21%mv 5927tnl> in
You are carrying:
a spiked hand axe
(Glowing) (Humming) the short sword of quickness
a metal canteen insulated in a wolf's pelt
a large sack
a practice polearm
a practice flail
a practice sword
a practice mace

<80%hp 100%m 21%mv 5927tnl> who pk
<13 Orc Ber> (PK) Sguk the Breaker of Shields
*13 Min War* (PK) Ceiglore the Swashbuckler

Players found: 2

<80%hp 100%m 21%mv 5927tnl> who im
< Human AVA> Sevarecan the Harvester of Wayward Souls
< Cloud AVA> Grurk Muouk the Adjudicator of Justice, Eternal Vindicator

Players found: 2

<89%hp 100%m 28%mv 5927tnl> p dodge sword
You can't practice dodge sword.

<89%hp 100%m 28%mv 5927tnl> tell sevarecan Hi there, got a second for a mechanics question?
You tell Sevarecan 'Hi there, got a second for a mechanics question?'

<89%hp 100%m 28%mv 5927tnl> look sword
This blade is very well made. It is light and flexible, and you even seem
a step faster than before when you hold it.

The short sword of quickness is a sword, made of steel, and weighs 5 pounds 15 ounces.

<94%hp 100%m 36%mv 5927tnl>
Sevarecan tells you 'Yes.'

<94%hp 100%m 36%mv 5927tnl> reply Great, hope you imms get past the minotaur. Anyway, I'm trying to practice using an item, and when I type: practice dodge sword, it says: You can't practice dodge sword.
You tell Sevarecan 'Great, hope you imms get past the minotaur. Anyway, I'm trying to practice using an item, and when I type: practice dodge sword, it says: You can't practice dodge sword.'

<94%hp 100%m 36%mv 5927tnl> reply I thought I'm following the syntax right: practice skill|spell|supplication|power object
You tell Sevarecan 'I thought I'm following the syntax right: practice skill|spell|supplication|power object'

<100%hp 100%m 44%mv 5927tnl> where
People near you:
(PK) Ceiglore The north half of a warehouse

<100%hp 100%m 44%mv 5927tnl> wo
eq
You have 0 gold, 1 silver, and 0 copper, which is worth 20 copper.
You have 51793 experience and need 5927 more experience to gain a rank.

<100%hp 100%m 51%mv 5927tnl> You are using:
<worn on finger> a pale white skull ring
<worn on finger> a pale white skull ring
<worn on body> (Glowing) a shirt of shining silver chain
<worn on arms> some black leather sleeves
<worn as shield> an orcish shield
<worn about body> a pitch-black parka
<worn about waist> (Humming) a tight mithril coil
<worn around wrist> an engraved silver bracelet
<worn around wrist> an engraved silver bracelet
<wielded> (Humming) a cruel battle axe

<100%hp 100%m 51%mv 5927tnl> in
You are carrying:
a spiked hand axe
(Glowing) (Humming) the short sword of quickness
a metal canteen insulated in a wolf's pelt
a large sack
a practice polearm
a practice flail
a practice sword
a practice mace

<100%hp 100%m 51%mv 5927tnl> wo
You have 0 gold, 1 silver, and 0 copper, which is worth 20 copper.
You have 51793 experience and need 5927 more experience to gain a rank.

<100%hp 100%m 51%mv 5927tnl> where
People near you:
(PK) Ceiglore The north half of a warehouse

<100%hp 100%m 51%mv 5927tnl> eq
You are using:
<worn on finger> a pale white skull ring
<worn on finger> a pale white skull ring
<worn on body> (Glowing) a shirt of shining silver chain
<worn on arms> some black leather sleeves
<worn as shield> an orcish shield
<worn about body> a pitch-black parka
<worn about waist> (Humming) a tight mithril coil
<worn around wrist> an engraved silver bracelet
<worn around wrist> an engraved silver bracelet
<wielded> (Humming) a cruel battle axe

<100%hp 100%m 51%mv 5927tnl> rest
You are already resting.

<100%hp 100%m 51%mv 5927tnl> wo
You have 0 gold, 1 silver, and 0 copper, which is worth 20 copper.
You have 51793 experience and need 5927 more experience to gain a rank.

<100%hp 100%m 51%mv 5927tnl>
Sevarecan tells you 'Try practice 'dodge' sword'

<100%hp 100%m 51%mv 5927tnl> practice 'dodge' sword
You can't practice 'dodge' sword.

<100%hp 100%m 51%mv 5927tnl> reply You can't practice 'dodge' sword.
You tell Sevarecan 'You can't practice 'dodge' sword.'

<100%hp 100%m 51%mv 5927tnl>
Sevarecan tells you 'Oh. The sword may not be worth enough. The response is not very clear on that.'

<100%hp 100%m 51%mv 5927tnl> reply Is it even trying to barter it? That's what I can't figure out.
You tell Sevarecan 'Is it even trying to barter it? That's what I can't figure out.'

<100%hp 100%m 59%mv 5927tnl>
Sevarecan tells you 'Trying praying. There might be someone who can see that better than I can.'

<100%hp 100%m 59%mv 5927tnl> reply Oh, maybe that's it, Heh, I'd try another object but I wouldn't have even tried if I'd had the cash. It's the short sword of quickness, and I don't know the monetary value.
You tell Sevarecan 'Oh, maybe that's it, Heh, I'd try another object but I wouldn't have even tried if I'd had the cash. It's the short sword of quickness, and I don't know the monetary value.'

<100%hp 100%m 59%mv 5927tnl> reply Alright, sure. Thanks.
You tell Sevarecan 'Alright, sure. Thanks.'

<100%hp 100%m 67%mv 5927tnl>

Autosaving.

<100%hp 100%m 75%mv 5927tnl> pray Just wondering if when it says 'You can't practice 'dodge' sword.' when I try practicing with barter, that it's because the sword isn't worth enough, or whether I'm not doing it right or something.
You pray to the heavens for help!

<100%hp 100%m 75%mv 5927tnl> pray Sevarecan suggested I pray to check.
You pray to the heavens for help!

<100%hp 100%m 75%mv 5927tnl> wo
You have 0 gold, 1 silver, and 0 copper, which is worth 20 copper.
You have 51793 experience and need 5927 more experience to gain a rank.

<100%hp 100%m 75%mv 5927tnl> where
People near you:
(PK) Ceiglore The north half of a warehouse

<100%hp 100%m 75%mv 5927tnl> rest
You are already resting.

<100%hp 100%m 75%mv 5927tnl> wo
wake
You have 0 gold, 1 silver, and 0 copper, which is worth 20 copper.
You have 51793 experience and need 5927 more experience to gain a rank.
An Immortal tells you 'Go ahead.'

<100%hp 100%m 75%mv 5927tnl> You stand up.

<100%hp 100%m 75%mv 5927tnl> p dodge sword
You can't practice dodge sword.

<100%hp 100%m 75%mv 5927tnl> nod sword
look sword
You hold up the short sword of quickness and nod.

<100%hp 100%m 75%mv 5927tnl> This blade is very well made. It is light and flexible, and you even seem
a step faster than before when you hold it.

The short sword of quickness is a sword, made of steel, and weighs 5 pounds 15 ounces.

<100%hp 100%m 75%mv 5927tnl> shrug
You shrug.

<100%hp 100%m 75%mv 5927tnl>
An Immortal tells you 'Hrm. Not sure. I'll ask.'

<100%hp 100%m 79%mv 5927tnl> practice 'dodge' sword
You can't practice 'dodge' sword.

<100%hp 100%m 79%mv 5927tnl> reply Want me to stay here?
You tell an Immortal 'Want me to stay here?'

<100%hp 100%m 79%mv 5927tnl> where
gr
People near you:
(PK) Ceiglore The north half of a warehouse

<100%hp 100%m 79%mv 5927tnl> Ceiglore's group:
<13 War> Ceiglore 100% hp 100% mana 79% mv 51793 xp

<100%hp 100%m 79%mv 5927tnl>
An Immortal tells you 'Nope. It might be that 'sword' is also a skill.'

<100%hp 100%m 79%mv 5927tnl> in
You are carrying:
a spiked hand axe
(Glowing) (Humming) the short sword of quickness
a metal canteen insulated in a wolf's pelt
a large sack
a practice polearm
a practice flail
a practice sword
a practice mace

<100%hp 100%m 79%mv 5927tnl>
You are hungry.

<100%hp 100%m 84%mv 5927tnl>
An Immortal tells you 'We'll look it over.'

<100%hp 100%m 84%mv 5927tnl> reply Oh, let me try the canteen or something.
You tell an Immortal 'Oh, let me try the canteen or something.'

<100%hp 100%m 84%mv 5927tnl> practice dodge canteen
Galbrin Ironoak nods at you with approval.
You hand a metal canteen insulated in a wolf's pelt to Galbrin Ironoak.
You practice dodge.

<100%hp 100%m 84%mv 5927tnl>
An Immortal tells you 'Yup.'

<100%hp 100%m 84%mv 5927tnl> reply Yeah, that worked.
You tell an Immortal 'Yeah, that worked.'

<100%hp 100%m 84%mv 5927tnl> reply Alright, thanks.
You tell an Immortal 'Alright, thanks.'

<100%hp 100%m 84%mv 5927tnl>
An Immortal tells you 'And the sword was worth more money, so it's the skill name thing.'

<100%hp 100%m 84%mv 5927tnl>
You are hungry.

<100%hp 100%m 89%mv 5927tnl> reply Alright, well, uhhh...want me to post it on th ebug board or something?
You tell an Immortal 'Alright, well, uhhh...want me to post it on th ebug board or something?'

<100%hp 100%m 89%mv 5927tnl>
An Immortal tells you 'It wouldn't hurt. I'll also note the party that coded it.'

<100%hp 100%m 89%mv 5927tnl> reply Alright. Cheers.
You tell an Immortal 'Alright. Cheers.'

<100%hp 100%m 89%mv 5927tnl>
You are hungry.

<100%hp 100%m 94%mv 5927tnl> get cake sack
get cake sack
You get a slice of pound cake from a large sack.

<100%hp 100%m 94%mv 5927tnl> You get a slice of pound cake from a large sack.

<100%hp 100%m 94%mv 5927tnl> eat cake
eat cake
You eat a slice of pound cake.

<100%hp 100%m 94%mv 5927tnl> You eat a slice of pound cake.

<100%hp 100%m 94%mv 5927tnl> get cake sack
eat cake
look
You get a slice of pound cake from a large sack.

<100%hp 100%m 94%mv 5927tnl> You eat a slice of pound cake.

<100%hp 100%m 94%mv 5927tnl> The north half of a warehouse
The warehouse has a high ceiling and well scuffed floors. A circle is
painted on the floor in the center for sparring in. Along the north wall
is a large mirror for checking form. There are mats piled in the north
west corner for wrestling, and a target for knife throwing is adjacent to
them. Weapon racks are mounted on the east wall and along the west wall
is a table with a few chairs and a bench. Hanging from the walls above
the table and the racks are various trophies of animals.


Galbrin stands here shouting at the inexperienced warriors.

<100%hp 100%m 94%mv 5927tnl> gr
Ceiglore's group:
<13 War> Ceiglore 100% hp 100% mana 94% mv 51793 xp

<100%hp 100%m 94%mv 5927tnl>
You are thirsty.

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv 5927tnl>


Of course, I bartered my canteen, so I didn't have anything to drink after that, but oh well.

  

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ZulghinlourSat 13-Mar-04 11:04 PM
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#4210, "RE: Bartering and practicing"
In response to Reply #0


          

It's by (bad) design.

sword is a skill and you can't barter an item using the name of a skill.

The workaround is to barter dodge quickness (use another keyword from the item that isn't a name of the skill).

So long, and thanks for all the fish!

  

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