>Did some thinking this time for my character about where i
>wanted to be later in the game. Decided in lieu of the dark
>horde that is all over thera I would make a good warrior to
>join the fortress. I made one whom I will not name and worked
>him up through the ranks. I repeatedly battled evil and lended
>a hand at the fortress many times. I even spoke to a few
>people and gave ample opportunity for discussions and the
>such.

I'm just curious if you actually asked to join. Did you send a
note, talk to the leaders, ask the current membership to give
you a recommendation (and if they refused, what was their
reason). Sometimes an offer is extended, but that's usually
when the Cabal is not the most populated it has ever been.

>I have to say that given the amount of times the fortress was
>attacked with so few in my range I cannot understand why they
>would not want to at least have made me a squire. It started
>to just feel like the fortress started to enjoy losing all the
>time instead of recruiting.

Did you ask anyone, in character, what you weren't doing that
you should have been? Also, just because the times you are on
coincide with a Cabal being sparse or beat on, doesn't mean
that is always the case. Something to remember is that just
because you don't see certain things, doesn't mean they aren't
going on.

>It even got to the point where I was told to basically stop
>helping and leave.

Did you ever ask why? It could be as simple as them not wanting
you to waste your time on a Cabal that was either a) not in the
midst of a recruiting drive (which you recognized) or b) you're
possibly not ready for (which you seem concerned about).

I can tell you there are *plenty* of newbies in Fortress. That
crutch doesn't hold any weight.

>No offense to anyone but is it just me or are there groups of
>experienced players who bounce around from cabal to cabal and
>if you dont know exactly what to say and how you are pinned as
>a newbie and cant ever join one?

Most of the players are experienced and plenty of them bounce
around from cabal to cabal knowing exactly what to say. But a
lot of first timers and near-newbies fake it til they make it.
In my experience, how many characters you have had before, how
many were leaders, tattooed, whatever is not a good indicator
for the next character. First timers and first heroes frequently
stun me with stellar characters and roleplay.

>This may sound like a whine
>but I am the other part of the player base. I am the semi
>newbie who can get a character to 40 but has not been in thera
>long. Well if i feel that CF has become a home to clicks of
>exp players then its your loss bc I will get bored like i am
>now.

It's normal to feel left out when you put a lot of thought into
something, really desire it, and the reason it doesn't happen
for you is out of your control. Roll with it and step up to
those challenges.

You need to find the drive within yourself first and foremost,
to inhabit a character that can weather setbacks, savor
victories, and has the internal motivation to keep you, the
player, interested.

>In conclusion I hope somebody reflects on that i have instead
>of the quick flame. Its players like me who add a little
>flavour so you exp players dont feel like you are fighting
>"bob" who has been a storm pal, fire warrior, duergar thief
>and you know its him.

Hey, I'm glad you're around. Hang in there, chief.

>Newbie bored to tears

Your homework is to Hero. Maybe there's no room in the Fort
for you at the moment or you're not showing them what they
wanted to see, but that doesn't mean you still can't latch
onto those guys for a ranking group and when the dark horde
thins them out, hey, maybe the survivors will see you with
new flaming silver eyes.

Good luck.

Qaledus
qaledus@carrionfields.com