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conjurer (Anonymous)Tue 16-Aug-16 12:34 PM
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#64545, "How is this REMOTELY a good example of conjurer "god-mode"?"


          

>And making conjurer newbie-friendly would require reducing
>its power peaks, which would make you complain even more.

I'm not sure how your logic concludes that making something newbie friendly inherently means making it weak. There are several classes that are widely considered very newbie friendly, and none of them are weak.

>P.S. And talking about "stupid strong" conjurers, a couple of
>quotes from Kaer's PBF.
>
>Feb 18, 2016|Lv 18|Northern Foothills|vs 1: <26> Zulus (100%,
>pillar of lightning)
>Feb 23, 2016|Lv 18|The Past Grove|vs 1: <32> Telentar (100%,
>pillar of lightning)
>Mar 20, 2016|Lv 23|The Tower of Sorcery|vs 1: <34> Niandre
> 100%, magic missile)
>
>Long story short, this is a story of a low level powerhouse
> notice the distention) killed by conjurers solo. Each time I
>was the one attacking. The only thought I've had when
>suffering these deaths was "OMG conjurers are ####ing OP". And
>once again, the character was really terrorizing his range in
>what at times seemed like god-mode. There was no other time
>when I've felt so much helplessness having my ass handed to
>me. Other times, even the 18-20 level difference didn't feel
>like much of a problem.

This is a level 18 character getting owned by someone 8 levels higher, 14 levels higher, and 11 levels higher. I don't care how much of a "powerhouse" you think you are. And distention doesn't mean crap about how much of a "powerhouse" you might be. It just means that you fragged the crap out of a bunch of low hanging fruit without bothering to level up while you were at it. A level 34 conjurer SHOULD be handing asses back to level 23s, or a level 32 to to an 18.

Distention at very low levels like that is WAY worse than distention at higher levels where you have more power of your own to call on. You attacked a level 32 conjurer as a pre-20 warrior when all you could hope to do is BASH or TRIP. Why would you even expect to win this fight? With that level difference, I could have kicked your ass with nearly any class in the game, except maybe healer. OP gear + bash does not make for a powerhouse. All this shows me is that you're a moron for thinking that you somehow had a snowball's chance in hell of killing someone so much higher in level than you. The only way you could hope to pull that off, against any class, would be to catch someone either unprepared, hurt, or just plain clueless about how to PK an overly aggressive attacker.

Without having been witness to Kaer at low levels to know for certain, but based on what you've written here and my knowledge of low level warriors plus your obvious overconfidence in your own ability, I'd say you probably had a pretty nice set of +dam gear early on, and used it to terrorize your lowbie PK range by bash/tripping people to death when they had only fine leathers, or guild gear (or similar equivalent). Doing this repeatedly will EASILY get you distended if you don't level up every so often. I know because I've done the same thing as a thief, assassin, ranger, warrior, and anti-paladin. I've also gone well into distention pre-20 with unshifted shapeshifters, transmuters, invokers, and necromancers by using some choice wands and carefully selecting my targers. None of that, however, makes me a powerhouse. It just makes me smart about choosing only the targets who I know I can defeat and leaving alone anyone who I can't. You clearly lacked that distinction and bit off more than you could (or SHOULD be able to) chew.

  

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HOT Locked TopicRe: Archon and dirt kick from mobs [View all] , Destuvius, Sun 14-Aug-16 07:48 PM
Reply Thread locked., Umiron, 16-Aug-16 06:57 PM, #69
Reply Clarification Within:, Umiron, 15-Aug-16 06:08 PM, #38
Reply RE: Archon and dirt kick from mobs, conjurer (Anonymous), 14-Aug-16 08:37 PM, #3
Reply Put it this way, Bemused, 14-Aug-16 08:45 PM, #4
Reply RE: Put it this way, Umiron, 14-Aug-16 08:54 PM, #5
     Reply Fortunately, I am not Bemused or anyone like him, conjurer (Anonymous), 14-Aug-16 09:15 PM, #6
     Reply RE: Put it this way, Bemused, 14-Aug-16 10:14 PM, #7
     Reply You need to stop., Aereglen, 15-Aug-16 11:34 AM, #17
          Reply +1 (n/t), N b M, 15-Aug-16 11:44 AM, #19
          Reply You know whats strange?, Beront (Anonymous), 15-Aug-16 11:57 AM, #20
          Reply RE: You know whats strange?, Umiron, 15-Aug-16 12:15 PM, #21
          Reply I'm talking on the subject, I don't need to read his of..., Beront (Anonymous), 15-Aug-16 12:23 PM, #22
          Reply It's Valg change, one that he was widely criticized for, Kstatida, 15-Aug-16 12:42 PM, #23
               Reply The problem that it WAS WORKING but, Beront (Anonymous), 15-Aug-16 12:45 PM, #24
                    Reply Easy, Kstatida, 15-Aug-16 12:52 PM, #25
                    Reply Look for ranking areas., Beront (Anonymous), 15-Aug-16 01:01 PM, #26
                    Reply This is just not true, at all, conjurer (Anonymous), 15-Aug-16 02:13 PM, #28
                         Reply Didn't see Umiron's post about blind mobs, conjurer (Anonymous), 15-Aug-16 02:22 PM, #30
                         Reply RE: Didn't see Umiron's post about blind mobs, incognito, 16-Aug-16 11:16 AM, #55
                              Reply I doubt that, Kstatida, 16-Aug-16 12:26 PM, #57
                         Reply Sounds like you don't know how to fight mobs?, incognito, 15-Aug-16 04:01 PM, #32
                         Reply RE: Sounds like you don't know how to fight mobs?, conjurer (Anonymous), 16-Aug-16 03:20 AM, #47
                         Reply Dude you're making things up to prove an invalid point, Kstatida, 15-Aug-16 05:00 PM, #33
                              Reply RE: Dude you're making things up to prove an invalid po..., conjurer (Anonymous), 16-Aug-16 02:48 AM, #45
                                   Reply Unfortunately, Kstatida, 16-Aug-16 04:45 AM, #48
                                        Reply You're being very ridiculous in your arguments, conjurer (Anonymous), 16-Aug-16 05:56 AM, #50
                                             Reply RE: You're being very ridiculous in your arguments, Kstatida, 16-Aug-16 09:28 AM, #52
                                                  Reply RE: You're being very ridiculous in your arguments, conjurer (Anonymous), 16-Aug-16 09:33 AM, #53
                                                       Reply The change is not recent, Kstatida, 16-Aug-16 10:17 AM, #54
                                                       Reply erroneous post nt., conjurer (Anonymous), 16-Aug-16 12:33 PM, #58
                                                       Reply How is this REMOTELY a good example of conjurer "god-mo..., conjurer (Anonymous), 16-Aug-16 12:34 PM #59
                                                       Reply Thank you for proving my point, Kstatida, 16-Aug-16 12:46 PM, #61
                                                       Reply I call BS, conjurer (Anonymous), 16-Aug-16 03:46 PM, #62
                    Reply This, mage, 15-Aug-16 12:58 PM, #27
          Reply RE: You know whats strange?, N b M, 15-Aug-16 03:05 PM, #31
               Reply RE: You know whats strange?, Umiron, 15-Aug-16 05:15 PM, #34
                    Reply Eh., Lhydia, 15-Aug-16 05:31 PM, #35
                    Reply Only problem I have re: mob AI..., TMNS, 15-Aug-16 07:24 PM, #39
          Reply You miss the point, again., Aereglen, 16-Aug-16 02:00 AM, #43
               Reply You started the Offtop, Beront (Anonymous), 16-Aug-16 02:53 AM, #46
                    Reply Look again., Aereglen, 16-Aug-16 04:07 PM, #63
                         Reply My congratulations, Beront (Anonymous), 16-Aug-16 05:03 PM, #64
                         Reply Let me get this straight, Bemused, 16-Aug-16 05:24 PM, #65
                         Reply Look at what they said., Aereglen, 16-Aug-16 06:25 PM, #67
                              Reply Your constant pandering to the immortals has made you n..., Bemused, 16-Aug-16 06:55 PM, #68
                         Reply This topic is not about bugs. n/t, Lhydia, 16-Aug-16 05:57 PM, #66
          Reply RE: You need to stop., Bemused, 15-Aug-16 05:37 PM, #36
               Reply RE: You need to stop., Destuvius, 15-Aug-16 06:04 PM, #37
               Reply Oh, thats why you anathemed me?, Beront (Anonymous), 16-Aug-16 12:43 AM, #40
                    Reply Sorry I RPed with you on an RP mud. nt, Destuvius, 16-Aug-16 04:45 AM, #49
                         Reply Hah, N b M, 16-Aug-16 07:11 AM, #51
               Reply RE: You need to stop., Aereglen, 16-Aug-16 01:59 AM, #44
     Reply Question re: this change, Tac, 15-Aug-16 10:42 AM, #14
          Reply Because that would make archon conjies unPKllable, Kstatida, 15-Aug-16 11:07 AM, #15
Reply So what's stopping you, incognito, 15-Aug-16 01:28 AM, #9
Reply Mobs also redirect now., TMNS, 15-Aug-16 02:19 AM, #10
Reply Archon morale, conjurer (Anonymous), 15-Aug-16 05:44 AM, #11
     Reply Umiron, thiiiiiiiiiiiisssss! n/t, Lhydia, 15-Aug-16 09:07 AM, #12
     Reply Well argued, incognito, 16-Aug-16 01:28 AM, #41
Reply RE: Archon and dirt kick from mobs, Umiron, 15-Aug-16 11:43 AM, #18
     Reply RE: Archon and dirt kick from mobs, Jormyr, 16-Aug-16 01:47 AM, #42
          Reply RE: Archon and dirt kick from mobs, stlucian1992, 16-Aug-16 12:26 PM, #56
               Reply I would 100% endorse this. n/t, conjurer (Anonymous), 16-Aug-16 12:39 PM, #60
Reply erroneous post nt., conjurer (Anonymous), 14-Aug-16 08:35 PM, #2
Reply Because it is stupid and makes the class mostly unplaya..., Lhydia, 14-Aug-16 08:17 PM, #1
     Reply I played before and after the change and I like it., laxman, 14-Aug-16 10:16 PM, #8
          Reply Can NPCs target the archon while blind?, lasentia, 15-Aug-16 09:18 AM, #13
               Reply RE: Can NPCs target the archon while blind?, Umiron, 15-Aug-16 11:21 AM, #16
                    Reply RE: Can NPCs target the archon while blind?, lasentia, 15-Aug-16 02:14 PM, #29
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