tongni12 | Thu 29-Dec-11 08:33 PM |
Member since 21st Jul 2011
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#42175, "RE: I'm really glad you started this thread."
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>>For others such as yourself and multitudes of other players, you want to be at the final destination with as little work as possible to ensure that at the final destination you can truly gauge your skill as a player (ie, at an equal point, you can determine if you are better than say, Deriveh).
I don't think you quite get it. I assume I have probably near the most area knowledge and time spent exploring out of any non-IMM. I know all the area explores extremely well. I spend hours combing every area, I try to know every room name, every little hidden door or locked room, that random potion that gives +1 hitroll, everything in any area that I might have a PK in. Why? It's just fun - I like exploring and I think a lot of the areas are really great. (notable exception: Prison of Glymarch)
There are some things you just don't find. Maybe it's a slight on me as an explorer that after all this time, I didn't even know room x existed, which is a locked room in an area that I'm not sure I ever had a PK in, with the key being held by the mob in the door - the only clue that mob is a mage is that he's sometimes invis. Does it mean I want to be there with the least work because I got the answer off AIM? It's not something I would have ever gotten.
Let's take a step back - go back to when wands just changed over, where I knew every wand, 50% by having that wand, 25% by knowing a char IC that had that wand, and 25% by having a friend OOC who had that wand. Now, new wands popped up everywhere. Does it mean that I want the path of least work to not spend the tedious time killing every mage mob with a new character that doesn't want to rank up to detect artifact? If there is a quest that has 10,000 runes on the ground, and you have to pick up the correct one and put it in a box on the other side of the area, and you can carry only one at a time, if you did the first thousand and you complained on AIM, and someone told you it was rune 6345, is that a slight on you because you didn't grind it out?
That said, I did do a lot of the work after the wand system switched over, and I found 90% of them after 100+ hours of looking, and I didn't mind it too much honestly. I can safely say some I would have never found on my own. I just wanted to post this because I think it's unfair to casual gamers and that the admins who put it in defend it a little too zealously because of all the time they spent on it. Personally I like the whole system - but I think it works great even if all the wands are listed in the Lyceum, or with clues, or whatever. Out of my last four mage characters, two didn't use sleek black rods. I'd say that the current system accomplishes a lot even with all the knowledge.
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Wand lists, etc.
[View all] , tongni12, Tue 03-Jan-12 03:22 PM
I'm really glad you started this thread.,
TMNS,
29-Dec-11 07:51 PM, #1
Don't worry...,
Zulghinlour,
29-Dec-11 07:54 PM, #2
Rolling a rager. nt,
Artificial,
29-Dec-11 07:58 PM, #3
Ah, the Napalm strategy.,
TMNS,
29-Dec-11 07:59 PM, #4
I'm not joking...,
Zulghinlour,
29-Dec-11 08:04 PM, #5
There isn't a problem,
Tsunami,
29-Dec-11 08:04 PM, #6
On the contrary, it's a win/win,
Tsunami,
29-Dec-11 08:07 PM, #7
I love you, so please don't take this as argumentative.,
TMNS,
29-Dec-11 08:11 PM, #8
It doesn't sound like a horrible idea.,
Lhydia,
29-Dec-11 08:15 PM, #9
DO IT,
Gaspar,
29-Dec-11 08:17 PM, #10
I like this idea,
Elerosse,
29-Dec-11 08:24 PM, #11
RE: Wand lists, etc.,
Isildur,
29-Dec-11 08:31 PM, #12
RE: I'm really glad you started this thread.,
tongni12,
29-Dec-11 08:33 PM #13
RE: I love you, so please don't take this as argumentat...,
Isildur,
29-Dec-11 08:36 PM, #14
Depends:,
tongni12,
29-Dec-11 08:40 PM, #15
I can jive with your explanation.,
TMNS,
29-Dec-11 08:43 PM, #16
Again, this involves treating the symptoms, not the dis...,
TMNS,
29-Dec-11 08:53 PM, #17
RE: Again, this involves treating the symptoms, not the...,
Isildur,
29-Dec-11 09:01 PM, #18
People see what they want to see:,
tongni12,
29-Dec-11 09:23 PM, #19
My thoughts...,
Not An Imm,
29-Dec-11 09:25 PM, #20
One thing that just seems odd to me from your post,
Puhguly,
29-Dec-11 09:55 PM, #21
I'm with this guy. Less lottery?,
Lhydia,
29-Dec-11 10:00 PM, #22
Hahaha!,
Conundrum,
29-Dec-11 10:31 PM, #23
RE: One thing that just seems odd to me from your post,
tongni12,
29-Dec-11 10:34 PM, #24
Best. Santa Zulg. Ever.,
Scrimbul,
29-Dec-11 11:15 PM, #25
How is this any better than just making the prep knowle...,
Gaplemo,
29-Dec-11 11:41 PM, #26
Yep,
AXera,
29-Dec-11 11:53 PM, #27
RE: How is this any better than just making the prep kn...,
Daevryn,
30-Dec-11 12:18 AM, #28
RE: Depends:,
Daevryn,
30-Dec-11 12:19 AM, #29
RE: How is this any better than just making the prep kn...,
Malakhi,
30-Dec-11 12:49 AM, #30
I've changed my view a bit,
incognito,
30-Dec-11 01:11 AM, #31
I like to think I've competed,
incognito,
30-Dec-11 01:12 AM, #32
Of course,
Gaplemo,
30-Dec-11 01:21 AM, #33
Please don't punish us for a few jerks :(,
highbutterfly,
30-Dec-11 03:55 AM, #34
It's about damn time,
Grudan,
30-Dec-11 05:01 AM, #35
Sulye would have been nerfed or denied under what I pro...,
TMNS,
30-Dec-11 05:04 AM, #36
And you say we players are emotional.,
TMNS,
30-Dec-11 05:09 AM, #37
Please come back. We miss you Panda.,
TMNS,
30-Dec-11 05:10 AM, #38
Not intended as a jab,
Puhguly,
30-Dec-11 05:32 AM, #39
I have a better idea, for sleeks in particular.,
DurNominator,
30-Dec-11 07:19 AM, #40
is anyone else annoyed,
laxman,
30-Dec-11 09:05 AM, #41
RE: I have a better idea, for sleeks in particular.,
Rayihn,
30-Dec-11 09:16 AM, #42
RE: Sulye would have been nerfed or denied under what I...,
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 09:47 AM, #43
RE: I have a better idea, for sleeks in particular.,
Elerosse,
30-Dec-11 09:50 AM, #44
RE: I have a better idea, for sleeks in particular.,
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 09:51 AM, #45
I like this idea IF.... You leave the store bought prep...,
Alston,
30-Dec-11 10:06 AM, #46
RE: Wand lists, etc.,
Ghuljun,
30-Dec-11 10:06 AM, #47
I long ago decided mages do NOT need wands.,
Alston,
30-Dec-11 10:13 AM, #48
ZULG: Please remember that we all love this game.,
Alston,
30-Dec-11 10:16 AM, #49
Add more wand locations and the advantage of having a w...,
DurNominator,
30-Dec-11 10:24 AM, #50
my attempt at a solution (long),
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 10:24 AM, #51
Well said,
MoetEtChandon,
30-Dec-11 10:24 AM, #52
RE: I have a better idea, for sleeks in particular.,
Rayihn,
30-Dec-11 10:31 AM, #53
Thumbs up from me,
Jad_Hoven,
30-Dec-11 10:47 AM, #54
I can sense the temptation in that, but...,
Amberion,
30-Dec-11 10:48 AM, #55
Actually, I'm not sarcastic. ,
DurNominator,
30-Dec-11 10:49 AM, #56
Sleeks already have a level requirement,
Artificial,
30-Dec-11 10:56 AM, #57
RE: I can sense the temptation in that, but...,
Daevryn,
30-Dec-11 10:57 AM, #58
RE: my attempt at a solution (long),
Malakhi,
30-Dec-11 11:02 AM, #59
So if I want to completely ruin a strong char,
Artificial,
30-Dec-11 11:01 AM, #60
RE: Wand lists, etc.,
Daevryn,
30-Dec-11 11:02 AM, #61
RE: So if I want to completely ruin a strong char,
Malakhi,
30-Dec-11 11:11 AM, #62
RE: my attempt at a solution (long),
Knac,
30-Dec-11 11:15 AM, #63
I can only think of a few items,
Artificial,
30-Dec-11 11:19 AM, #64
RE: Sleeks already have a level requirement,
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 11:20 AM, #65
With the illusionary change,
Artificial,
30-Dec-11 11:22 AM, #66
RE: my attempt at a solution (long),
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 11:25 AM, #67
RE: With the illusionary change,
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 11:26 AM, #68
Ok, I'll bite.,
tongni12,
30-Dec-11 11:43 AM, #69
RE: Ok, I'll bite.,
Daevryn,
30-Dec-11 11:59 AM, #70
RE: my attempt at a solution (long),
Malakhi,
30-Dec-11 11:59 AM, #71
RE: I can sense the temptation in that, but...,
Elerosse,
30-Dec-11 12:04 PM, #72
It has been a great run.,
Alston,
30-Dec-11 12:08 PM, #73
Hah CF on Ebay!,
Rayihn,
30-Dec-11 12:10 PM, #74
I'd like for you and Daevryn to know,
Alston,
30-Dec-11 12:20 PM, #75
RE: I'd like for you and Daevryn to know,
Daevryn,
30-Dec-11 12:24 PM, #76
RE: my attempt at a solution (long),
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 12:43 PM, #77
RE: Ok, I'll bite.,
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 01:00 PM, #78
RE: I have a better idea, for sleeks in particular.,
JoeCloud,
30-Dec-11 01:12 PM, #79
Forgive me. I was drunk last night. Thank god I didn'...,
TMNS,
30-Dec-11 01:21 PM, #80
RE: I'd like for you and Daevryn to know,
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 01:24 PM, #81
No, but I remember them,
tongni12,
30-Dec-11 01:28 PM, #82
Another solution,
MoetEtChandon,
30-Dec-11 01:32 PM, #83
#### a college fund, Zulg needs beer money :),
TMNS,
30-Dec-11 01:33 PM, #84
I agree with Malakhi.,
TMNS,
30-Dec-11 01:39 PM, #85
Horrible idea,
Cenatar_,
30-Dec-11 01:40 PM, #86
RE: No, but I remember them,
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 01:41 PM, #87
RE: Hah CF on Ebay!,
Grudan,
30-Dec-11 01:59 PM, #88
RE: I long ago decided mages do NOT need wands.,
Cenatar_,
30-Dec-11 02:46 PM, #89
I like this solution,
Cenatar_,
30-Dec-11 03:04 PM, #90
Please don't give up on CF,
Valkenar,
30-Dec-11 03:08 PM, #91
What about strengthening detect artifact?,
JoeCloud,
30-Dec-11 04:03 PM, #92
RE: I'm not joking...,
The Heretic,
30-Dec-11 04:08 PM, #93
More solutions,
Anghwyr,
30-Dec-11 04:25 PM, #94
The only time people complain about sleeks ...,
Bell,
30-Dec-11 04:58 PM, #95
I think your premise is wrong...,
Tac,
30-Dec-11 05:03 PM, #96
I blame Isildur! And a lack of Imm fest!,
lasentia,
30-Dec-11 06:00 PM, #97
Both those were clouds I thought.,
lasentia,
30-Dec-11 06:04 PM, #98
Wow, this whole thing really got out of hand.,
TripHitNdip (Anonymous),
30-Dec-11 07:02 PM, #99
RE: I blame Isildur! And a lack of Imm fest!,
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 09:23 PM, #100
RE: Both those were clouds I thought.,
Isildur,
30-Dec-11 09:24 PM, #101
Its like the doomsday switch,
Oldril,
31-Dec-11 05:36 PM, #102
Why not just stop all the secrecy then?,
Oldril,
31-Dec-11 05:37 PM, #103
Don't like this.,
fist-law,
31-Dec-11 06:15 PM, #104
RE: I can sense the temptation in that, but...,
Kamuela_,
31-Dec-11 08:41 PM, #105
RE: Don't like this.,
Daevryn,
31-Dec-11 09:12 PM, #106
I say quit ####ing around and go for it. Threats and th...,
Lhydia,
31-Dec-11 09:17 PM, #107
Right on lets do dis #### nt,
Runaktla,
31-Dec-11 10:07 PM, #108
RE: Don't like this.,
Isildur,
01-Jan-12 12:07 AM, #109
Twist threw out his back. nt,
Artificial,
01-Jan-12 12:23 AM, #110
That's naive,
incognito,
01-Jan-12 07:08 AM, #111
That doesn't change the fact,
incognito,
01-Jan-12 07:06 AM, #112
Exactly. Which is why it won't ever actually happen and...,
Lhydia,
01-Jan-12 10:44 AM, #113
RE: Exactly. Which is why it won't ever actually happen...,
Rayihn,
01-Jan-12 11:06 AM, #114
You're telling me to be less abrasive? ,
Lhydia,
01-Jan-12 11:53 AM, #115
RE: You're telling me to be less abrasive? ,
Daevryn,
01-Jan-12 12:23 PM, #116
That makes sense on all counts. ,
Lhydia,
01-Jan-12 12:35 PM, #117
RE: Don't like this.,
Malakhi,
01-Jan-12 07:38 PM, #118
RE: You're telling me to be less abrasive? ,
N b M,
01-Jan-12 08:14 PM, #119
RE: You're telling me to be less abrasive? ,
Isildur,
02-Jan-12 12:25 AM, #120
Of course.,
Oldril,
02-Jan-12 12:54 AM, #121
This is a great great post!,
Oldril,
02-Jan-12 12:56 AM, #122
Man you have an ego the size of a battleship Jalim,
Oldril,
02-Jan-12 01:06 AM, #123
Listen to your condescending comments,
Oldril,
02-Jan-12 01:07 AM, #124
~~ n/t,
Alston,
02-Jan-12 04:29 AM, #125
RE: Don't like this.,
fist-law,
02-Jan-12 04:33 AM, #126
RE: Don't like this.,
Malakhi,
02-Jan-12 04:55 AM, #127
You are getting your worlds mixed up again. ,
Lhydia,
02-Jan-12 10:11 AM, #128
Except nobody is selling anything...,
Twist,
02-Jan-12 10:16 AM, #129
There you go again Twist, saying it better than me,
Oldril,
02-Jan-12 10:48 AM, #130
Longer fights,
Lightmage,
02-Jan-12 11:44 AM, #131
I like that people race for it,
incognito,
02-Jan-12 03:48 PM, #132
As someone who likes to play elves and dark elves,
incognito,
02-Jan-12 03:52 PM, #133
RE: Of course.,
incognito,
02-Jan-12 07:03 PM, #134
Umm,
incognito,
02-Jan-12 07:17 PM, #135
Please see my newbie boosts on Gameplay,
incognito,
02-Jan-12 07:28 PM, #136
Don't worry...,
Jhyrbian,
03-Jan-12 02:56 AM, #137
A suggestion,
Krathreal,
04-Jan-12 02:54 AM, #138
This is assuming a LOT.,
Tesline,
04-Jan-12 01:42 PM, #139
Please remove preps for a week or two.,
Void,
25-Jan-12 09:44 PM, #140
I endorse this solution.,
Eskelian,
26-Jan-12 04:44 AM, #141
RE: I'm not joking...,
Eskelian,
26-Jan-12 04:48 AM, #142
Not to sound like a jerk but....,
Eskelian,
26-Jan-12 04:53 AM, #143
RE: Don't worry...,
Eskelian,
26-Jan-12 04:59 AM, #144
RE: Umm,
Eskelian,
26-Jan-12 05:11 AM, #145
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