1. Victoria wasn't an example of conservative a-p who could potentially ever become Cabdru or Ravon (i speak about these 2 because they are "golden standart" for now before anybody can beat them). And i think most people think about other anti-paladins (not Victoria) when they think about anti-paladins at all.

2. I would never even thought about ever wielding any whip for PK before you gained at least 100 charges. And you only swapped it out sometimes. Spear is much much much better weapon overall before you gain at least 100 charges. I did an a-p too - Soidel, you can also look on the PBF.

3. The real thing is that noone of you or me can discuss this topic. Because we didn't play strong enough anti-paladins and don't know what does it really take to learn Hell very good.

But for some reasons Hell was always a no-no theme for Daevryn and Twist. I respect every Immortal of CF and i really LOVE CF, but i simply can't understand it why cannot they (game balance team) at least discuss the most overpowered of EQ what basically ruins other characters since Scarab is back.