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sorlag (inactive user)Mon 19-Apr-10 11:37 AM
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>In short:
>
>1) Based on a lot of time watching players, I disagree that
>most people can tell that difference, or at least, that most
>people care about that difference.

*shrug* It seems obvious enough to me. I can understand enemies bitching about it, but I very rarely hear cabal chatter or gossip where allies are complaining about other allies doing this, and of course things are always skewed from the other side of the fence.

>2) If you can group with heroes, you've had heroes in range
>for a few levels already.

Based on XP penalties, this isn't always true, especially when you have a human-something level sitter avoiding tough guys with higher penalties.

>3) Often there are pretty good reasons to stop at something
>like 40-41 for a while. For example, if I'm a warrior, maybe
>I don't want to hero with all my second spec skills at 63%.

It doesn't take 3-4 weeks to get your second spec skills to 100%. I bet a warrior with average intelligence is probably going to have 2-3 of them pretty close just by ranking casually. This scenario is pretty easy to pick up on and distinguish between more lame behavior. I guess I don't have snoop though.

>4) If someone wants to hang at 40 for a while, so what? How
>does that make the game less fun for you?

No, which is why I don't mind when people do it and why I've never, ever requested or goaded someone into leveling faster. On the rare occasion I feel like someone is doing it PURELY for the sake of being opportunistic and padding their PK ratio while not having to defend against a very small but powerful handful of opponents, I bitch and moan about it to myself in my head.

  

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HOT Locked TopicRandom topic of discussion: Midlevels [View all] , Daevryn, Tue 18-May-10 08:27 PM
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, 34-inside, 19-Apr-10 10:20 AM, #1
Reply Nothing., Dervish, 19-Apr-10 10:30 AM, #2
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, sorlag (Anonymous), 19-Apr-10 10:30 AM, #3
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, sorlag (Anonymous), 19-Apr-10 10:34 AM, #4
Reply Dunno, I never had big problems finding a group, Dervish, 19-Apr-10 10:38 AM, #5
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, 34-inside, 19-Apr-10 10:39 AM, #6
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, ORB, 19-Apr-10 10:48 AM, #7
Reply Off the cuff., Dallevian, 19-Apr-10 10:55 AM, #8
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, Daevryn, 19-Apr-10 10:56 AM, #9
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, Hutto, 19-Apr-10 11:08 AM, #10
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, sorlag (Anonymous), 19-Apr-10 11:16 AM, #11
Reply Ideas, Quixotic, 19-Apr-10 11:18 AM, #12
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, Hutto, 19-Apr-10 11:42 AM, #13
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, Daevryn, 19-Apr-10 11:26 AM, #14
Reply Last thing would be great to help newbies nt, Dervish, 19-Apr-10 11:27 AM, #15
Reply RE: Ideas, sorlag (Anonymous), 19-Apr-10 11:28 AM, #16
Reply RE: Ideas, Daevryn, 19-Apr-10 11:31 AM, #17
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, sorlag (Anonymous), 19-Apr-10 11:37 AM #18
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, Dervish, 19-Apr-10 11:43 AM, #19
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, TJHuron, 19-Apr-10 11:49 AM, #20
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, thendrell, 19-Apr-10 11:58 AM, #21
Reply This isn't a possitive but..., Pro, 19-Apr-10 11:58 AM, #22
Reply I would say my biggest mechanical dislike in the game i..., Pro, 19-Apr-10 12:01 PM, #23
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, Daevryn, 19-Apr-10 12:22 PM, #24
Reply RE: Heralds, Quixotic, 19-Apr-10 12:22 PM, #25
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, Daevryn, 19-Apr-10 12:26 PM, #26
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, Daevryn, 19-Apr-10 12:28 PM, #27
Reply Yes, I agree with you. I just pointed out two cases I e..., Dervish, 19-Apr-10 12:29 PM, #28
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, Daevryn, 19-Apr-10 12:31 PM, #29
Reply Fair enough n/t, Daevryn, 19-Apr-10 12:33 PM, #30
Reply Give out Cabal Rewards Sooner, trewyn, 19-Apr-10 12:48 PM, #31
Reply RE: Heralds, sorlag (Anonymous), 19-Apr-10 12:49 PM, #32
Reply Cosign on first and last suggestions nt, Dervish, 19-Apr-10 12:51 PM, #33
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, Beroxxus, 19-Apr-10 12:54 PM, #34
Reply Things that would make me stay in the mid levels, Drag0nSt0rm, 19-Apr-10 12:55 PM, #35
Reply I agree with all of these ideas. 110% nt, Drag0nSt0rm, 19-Apr-10 12:57 PM, #36
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, Eskelian, 19-Apr-10 01:01 PM, #37
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, sorlag (Anonymous), 19-Apr-10 01:00 PM, #38
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, TJHuron, 19-Apr-10 01:03 PM, #39
Reply RE: Give out Cabal Rewards Sooner, Daevryn, 19-Apr-10 01:05 PM, #40
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, sorlag (Anonymous), 19-Apr-10 01:06 PM, #41
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, Daevryn, 19-Apr-10 01:09 PM, #42
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, sorlag (Anonymous), 19-Apr-10 01:13 PM, #43
Reply Explore early and move is never a problem., thendrell, 19-Apr-10 01:14 PM, #44
Reply RE: Give out Cabal Rewards Sooner, Mekantos, 19-Apr-10 01:15 PM, #45
Reply RE: I would say my biggest mechanical dislike in the ga..., sorlag (Anonymous), 19-Apr-10 01:17 PM, #46
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, Daevryn, 19-Apr-10 01:19 PM, #47
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, Hutto, 19-Apr-10 01:23 PM, #48
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, Daevryn, 19-Apr-10 01:28 PM, #49
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, sorlag (Anonymous), 19-Apr-10 01:33 PM, #50
Reply Except, Dervish, 19-Apr-10 01:40 PM, #51
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, Hutto, 19-Apr-10 01:42 PM, #52
Reply Here we go, Dervish, 19-Apr-10 01:46 PM, #53
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, Eskelian, 19-Apr-10 02:17 PM, #54
Reply Damage scaling, Con gains, and skills, Valkenar, 19-Apr-10 02:15 PM, #55
Reply RE: Here we go, Daevryn, 19-Apr-10 02:07 PM, #56
Reply Damn your logic., thendrell, 19-Apr-10 02:07 PM, #57
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, Daevryn, 19-Apr-10 02:12 PM, #58
Reply Thoughts + ideas., Cerunnir, 19-Apr-10 03:04 PM, #59
Reply Bards certainly are weak, thendrell, 19-Apr-10 02:26 PM, #60
Reply Cosign. I'd love to see some logs of PBFs, Nep nt, Dervish, 19-Apr-10 02:31 PM, #61
Reply RE: Here we go, Daevryn, 19-Apr-10 02:54 PM, #62
Reply RE: Cosign. I'd love to see some logs of PBFs, Nep nt, Daevryn, 19-Apr-10 02:54 PM, #63
Reply RE: Give out Cabal Rewards Sooner, GrahamC, 19-Apr-10 02:55 PM, #64
Reply I cant resist to quote you, Dervish, 19-Apr-10 03:01 PM, #65
Reply RE: Here we go, Cerunnir, 19-Apr-10 03:16 PM, #66
Reply RE: I cant resist to quote you, Daevryn, 19-Apr-10 03:21 PM, #67
Reply RE: Give out Cabal Rewards Sooner, Daevryn, 19-Apr-10 03:24 PM, #68
Reply Two points: cabal imbalance and shiny addictions, Vortex Magus, 19-Apr-10 03:41 PM, #69
Reply A batch of thoughts, Mekantos, 19-Apr-10 03:54 PM, #70
Reply RE: Heralds, thendrell, 19-Apr-10 03:53 PM, #71
Reply RE: Here we go, Mekantos, 19-Apr-10 03:56 PM, #72
Reply RE: movement regen, Zulghinlour, 19-Apr-10 03:59 PM, #73
Reply RE: Two points: cabal imbalance and shiny addictions, Daevryn, 19-Apr-10 04:08 PM, #74
Reply RE: movement regen, Daevryn, 19-Apr-10 04:09 PM, #75
Reply Some thoughts on making low/mid level pk better., Marcus_, 19-Apr-10 04:10 PM, #76
Reply RE: Some thoughts on making low/mid level pk better., Daevryn, 19-Apr-10 04:13 PM, #77
Reply Tell their names at least? nt, Dervish, 19-Apr-10 04:18 PM, #78
Reply RE: Equipment, vargal, 19-Apr-10 04:23 PM, #79
Reply I disagree on mage/melee, laxman, 19-Apr-10 04:23 PM, #80
Reply RE: movement regen, Marcus_, 19-Apr-10 04:28 PM, #81
Reply RE: Tell their names at least? nt, Daevryn, 19-Apr-10 04:28 PM, #82
Reply I beat down people with my four path invoker..., TheLastMohican, 19-Apr-10 04:28 PM, #83
Reply Perception is a killer, laxman, 19-Apr-10 04:41 PM, #84
Reply Holy crap Mulshine, I totally agree with you for once!, TheLastMohican, 19-Apr-10 04:43 PM, #85
Reply I agree with this., sorlag (Anonymous), 19-Apr-10 04:54 PM, #86
Reply Well, Dervish, 19-Apr-10 04:59 PM, #87
Reply RE: I disagree on mage/melee, Marcus_, 19-Apr-10 05:09 PM, #88
Reply RE: Here we go, Dervish, 19-Apr-10 05:12 PM, #89
Reply RE: Perception is a killer, Eskelian, 19-Apr-10 05:34 PM, #90
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, Isildur, 19-Apr-10 05:37 PM, #91
Reply Urden, Jahfenar, Ilrahsek, Ikanu., Mekantos, 19-Apr-10 05:39 PM, #92
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, GrahamC, 19-Apr-10 05:50 PM, #93
Reply again when did you see one try, laxman, 19-Apr-10 06:07 PM, #94
Reply do it once do it twice, laxman, 19-Apr-10 06:12 PM, #95
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, laxman, 19-Apr-10 06:16 PM, #96
Reply Its the luck factor..., Elerosse, 19-Apr-10 06:29 PM, #97
Reply RE: again when did you see one try, Marcus_, 19-Apr-10 06:33 PM, #98
Reply My opinion re: class balance at mid-levels:, Valguarnera, 19-Apr-10 06:58 PM, #99
Reply RE: Well, Daevryn, 19-Apr-10 07:10 PM, #100
Reply <== is king of that., trewyn, 19-Apr-10 07:32 PM, #101
Reply RE: My Experience, Tac, 19-Apr-10 07:50 PM, #102
Reply Actually I do have one suggestion...., Tac, 19-Apr-10 08:00 PM, #103
Reply Ragers do get ####ed. But that's part of being a rager..., TheLastMohican, 19-Apr-10 09:07 PM, #104
Reply Good post., Zephon, 19-Apr-10 09:22 PM, #105
Reply I pretty much agree with all of this, Drag0nSt0rm, 19-Apr-10 10:51 PM, #106
Reply Shout-out to the IMM staff within., TheLastMohican, 19-Apr-10 11:03 PM, #107
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, Asthiss, 20-Apr-10 02:40 AM, #108
Reply I haven't read the rest of the posts, but I like mid le..., Cointreau, 20-Apr-10 03:42 AM, #109
Reply These are great observations. nt, GinGa, 20-Apr-10 03:47 AM, #110
Reply I like these suggestions a lot., ibuki, 20-Apr-10 05:11 AM, #111
Reply RE: My opinion re: class balance at mid-levels:, Cerunnir, 20-Apr-10 08:11 AM, #112
Reply I disagree., Eskelian, 20-Apr-10 09:14 AM, #113
Reply Not to me, trewyn, 20-Apr-10 09:13 AM, #114
Reply Spell Power Vs. Enhanced Damage, Seilclavin, 20-Apr-10 09:52 AM, #115
Reply RE: Not to me, Daevryn, 20-Apr-10 09:55 AM, #116
Reply RE: Not to me, Cerunnir, 20-Apr-10 10:22 AM, #117
Reply She did on Dio's., Dervish, 20-Apr-10 10:41 AM, #118
Reply RE: Gear-based Spell Idea, Quixotic, 20-Apr-10 11:52 AM, #119
Reply RE: Gear-based Spell Idea, Daevryn, 20-Apr-10 12:23 PM, #120
Reply You overlooked, Quixotic, 20-Apr-10 12:35 PM, #121
Reply Another random thought.... re: scrolls, Tac, 20-Apr-10 02:56 PM, #122
Reply RE: I disagree., Asthiss, 21-Apr-10 02:18 AM, #123
Reply Best way to equalize mages and melee, Doof, 21-Apr-10 11:55 AM, #124
Reply Adjust XP penalties, adjust ranking areas, adjust where, Amortis, 22-Apr-10 09:52 AM, #125
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, Hutto, 22-Apr-10 10:10 AM, #126
Reply re: expanded where, Quixotic, 22-Apr-10 12:34 PM, #127
Reply Con Loss., Pro, 22-Apr-10 01:57 PM, #128
Reply For me, there is always a tickle in the back of my head..., Habbs, 23-Apr-10 11:48 AM, #129
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, Doge, 23-Apr-10 09:49 PM, #130
Reply There used to be no xp cap., trewyn, 23-Apr-10 10:55 PM, #131
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, Tsunami, 24-Apr-10 12:30 PM, #132
Reply THE XP DYING PENALTY PLEASE, dribbit, 24-Apr-10 08:49 PM, #133
Reply If you can't find your way out of a strange area, quaff..., DurNominator, 24-Apr-10 11:41 PM, #134
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, Tyrjal, 25-Apr-10 07:13 PM, #135
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, Straklaw, 26-Apr-10 04:00 AM, #136
Reply RE: There used to be no xp cap., Doge, 26-Apr-10 02:23 PM, #137
Reply An imm question related to this topic, Habbs, 04-May-10 01:06 PM, #138
Reply Mostly no:, Daevryn, 04-May-10 01:26 PM, #139
Reply RE: Best way to equalize mages and melee, wjdenny, 05-May-10 02:16 PM, #140
Reply But the good thing about seeing -34% tnl, Pendragon_Surtr, 06-May-10 03:19 AM, #141
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, Gryshilniar, 06-May-10 12:09 PM, #142
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, Daevryn, 06-May-10 12:50 PM, #143
Reply Now that this has cooked for a while, Mekantos, 06-May-10 12:51 PM, #144
Reply RE: Now that this has cooked for a while, Daevryn, 06-May-10 12:53 PM, #145
Reply RE: Gear-based Spell Idea, The Heretic, 07-May-10 09:21 AM, #146
Reply FYI, this is up on Announcements now (n/t), Daevryn, 12-May-10 02:27 PM, #147
Reply RE: movement regen, Hutto, 13-May-10 05:00 PM, #148
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, A2, 13-May-10 11:45 PM, #149
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, Daevryn, 14-May-10 09:00 AM, #150
Reply RE: movement regen, Isildur, 14-May-10 11:19 AM, #151
Reply RE: movement regen, Isildur, 14-May-10 11:29 AM, #152
Reply RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels, A2, 14-May-10 11:33 AM, #153
Reply Just a thought:, Marcus_, 17-May-10 12:43 PM, #154
Reply RE: Just a thought:, Daevryn, 17-May-10 02:09 PM, #155
Reply I actually like Marcus' idea., sleepy, 17-May-10 02:42 PM, #156
Reply Hello from Hollywood., Pro, 18-May-10 01:31 AM, #157
Reply RE: Just a thought:, ORB, 18-May-10 08:37 AM, #158
Reply As a total train whore, Valkenar, 18-May-10 09:29 AM, #159
Reply RE: Just a thought:, Hutto, 18-May-10 10:57 AM, #160
Reply Cosign., Dervish, 18-May-10 11:13 AM, #161
Reply RE: As a total train whore, Isildur, 18-May-10 04:10 PM, #162
Reply Low level limited badassery items., Straklaw, 18-May-10 05:35 PM, #163
Reply Using Marcus' idea but, Abernyte, 19-May-10 06:19 AM, #164
Reply Con trains, Valkenar, 19-May-10 08:00 AM, #165
Reply RE: Hello from Hollywood., Fjarn, 19-May-10 10:08 AM, #166
Reply RE: Just a thought:, Fjarn, 19-May-10 10:12 AM, #167
Reply RE: Hello from Hollywood., sorlag (Anonymous), 19-May-10 10:23 AM, #168
Reply Definitely, Valkenar, 19-May-10 10:35 AM, #169
Reply RE: Hello from Hollywood., Isildur, 19-May-10 12:38 PM, #170
Reply RE: Hello from Hollywood., Valkenar, 19-May-10 12:56 PM, #171
Reply RE: Hello from Hollywood., Isildur, 19-May-10 01:25 PM, #172
Reply Meh, Valkenar, 19-May-10 03:03 PM, #173
Reply RE: Meh, Isildur, 19-May-10 03:09 PM, #174
Reply RE: Hello from Hollywood., sorlag (Anonymous), 19-May-10 03:11 PM, #175
Reply Maybe, Valkenar, 19-May-10 08:34 PM, #176
Reply Thread locked for sprawl. Please start sub-topics. (n/..., Valguarnera, 20-May-10 05:37 AM, #177
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