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#31923, "RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels"
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>In short: > >1) Based on a lot of time watching players, I disagree that >most people can tell that difference, or at least, that most >people care about that difference.
*shrug* It seems obvious enough to me. I can understand enemies bitching about it, but I very rarely hear cabal chatter or gossip where allies are complaining about other allies doing this, and of course things are always skewed from the other side of the fence.
>2) If you can group with heroes, you've had heroes in range >for a few levels already.
Based on XP penalties, this isn't always true, especially when you have a human-something level sitter avoiding tough guys with higher penalties.
>3) Often there are pretty good reasons to stop at something >like 40-41 for a while. For example, if I'm a warrior, maybe >I don't want to hero with all my second spec skills at 63%.
It doesn't take 3-4 weeks to get your second spec skills to 100%. I bet a warrior with average intelligence is probably going to have 2-3 of them pretty close just by ranking casually. This scenario is pretty easy to pick up on and distinguish between more lame behavior. I guess I don't have snoop though.
>4) If someone wants to hang at 40 for a while, so what? How >does that make the game less fun for you?
No, which is why I don't mind when people do it and why I've never, ever requested or goaded someone into leveling faster. On the rare occasion I feel like someone is doing it PURELY for the sake of being opportunistic and padding their PK ratio while not having to defend against a very small but powerful handful of opponents, I bitch and moan about it to myself in my head.
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Random topic of discussion: Midlevels
[View all] , Daevryn, Tue 18-May-10 08:27 PM
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
34-inside,
19-Apr-10 10:20 AM, #1
Nothing.,
Dervish,
19-Apr-10 10:30 AM, #2
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
sorlag (Anonymous),
19-Apr-10 10:30 AM, #3
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
sorlag (Anonymous),
19-Apr-10 10:34 AM, #4
Dunno, I never had big problems finding a group,
Dervish,
19-Apr-10 10:38 AM, #5
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
34-inside,
19-Apr-10 10:39 AM, #6
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
ORB,
19-Apr-10 10:48 AM, #7
Off the cuff.,
Dallevian,
19-Apr-10 10:55 AM, #8
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
Daevryn,
19-Apr-10 10:56 AM, #9
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
Hutto,
19-Apr-10 11:08 AM, #10
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
sorlag (Anonymous),
19-Apr-10 11:16 AM, #11
Ideas,
Quixotic,
19-Apr-10 11:18 AM, #12
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
Hutto,
19-Apr-10 11:42 AM, #13
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
Daevryn,
19-Apr-10 11:26 AM, #14
Last thing would be great to help newbies nt,
Dervish,
19-Apr-10 11:27 AM, #15
RE: Ideas,
sorlag (Anonymous),
19-Apr-10 11:28 AM, #16
RE: Ideas,
Daevryn,
19-Apr-10 11:31 AM, #17
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
sorlag (Anonymous),
19-Apr-10 11:37 AM #18
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
Dervish,
19-Apr-10 11:43 AM, #19
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
TJHuron,
19-Apr-10 11:49 AM, #20
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
thendrell,
19-Apr-10 11:58 AM, #21
This isn't a possitive but...,
Pro,
19-Apr-10 11:58 AM, #22
I would say my biggest mechanical dislike in the game i...,
Pro,
19-Apr-10 12:01 PM, #23
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
Daevryn,
19-Apr-10 12:22 PM, #24
RE: Heralds,
Quixotic,
19-Apr-10 12:22 PM, #25
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
Daevryn,
19-Apr-10 12:26 PM, #26
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
Daevryn,
19-Apr-10 12:28 PM, #27
Yes, I agree with you. I just pointed out two cases I e...,
Dervish,
19-Apr-10 12:29 PM, #28
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
Daevryn,
19-Apr-10 12:31 PM, #29
Fair enough n/t,
Daevryn,
19-Apr-10 12:33 PM, #30
Give out Cabal Rewards Sooner,
trewyn,
19-Apr-10 12:48 PM, #31
RE: Heralds,
sorlag (Anonymous),
19-Apr-10 12:49 PM, #32
Cosign on first and last suggestions nt,
Dervish,
19-Apr-10 12:51 PM, #33
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
Beroxxus,
19-Apr-10 12:54 PM, #34
Things that would make me stay in the mid levels,
Drag0nSt0rm,
19-Apr-10 12:55 PM, #35
I agree with all of these ideas. 110% nt,
Drag0nSt0rm,
19-Apr-10 12:57 PM, #36
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
Eskelian,
19-Apr-10 01:01 PM, #37
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
sorlag (Anonymous),
19-Apr-10 01:00 PM, #38
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
TJHuron,
19-Apr-10 01:03 PM, #39
RE: Give out Cabal Rewards Sooner,
Daevryn,
19-Apr-10 01:05 PM, #40
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
sorlag (Anonymous),
19-Apr-10 01:06 PM, #41
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
Daevryn,
19-Apr-10 01:09 PM, #42
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
sorlag (Anonymous),
19-Apr-10 01:13 PM, #43
Explore early and move is never a problem.,
thendrell,
19-Apr-10 01:14 PM, #44
RE: Give out Cabal Rewards Sooner,
Mekantos,
19-Apr-10 01:15 PM, #45
RE: I would say my biggest mechanical dislike in the ga...,
sorlag (Anonymous),
19-Apr-10 01:17 PM, #46
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
Daevryn,
19-Apr-10 01:19 PM, #47
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
Hutto,
19-Apr-10 01:23 PM, #48
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
Daevryn,
19-Apr-10 01:28 PM, #49
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
sorlag (Anonymous),
19-Apr-10 01:33 PM, #50
Except,
Dervish,
19-Apr-10 01:40 PM, #51
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
Hutto,
19-Apr-10 01:42 PM, #52
Here we go,
Dervish,
19-Apr-10 01:46 PM, #53
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
Eskelian,
19-Apr-10 02:17 PM, #54
Damage scaling, Con gains, and skills,
Valkenar,
19-Apr-10 02:15 PM, #55
RE: Here we go,
Daevryn,
19-Apr-10 02:07 PM, #56
Damn your logic.,
thendrell,
19-Apr-10 02:07 PM, #57
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
Daevryn,
19-Apr-10 02:12 PM, #58
Thoughts + ideas.,
Cerunnir,
19-Apr-10 03:04 PM, #59
Bards certainly are weak,
thendrell,
19-Apr-10 02:26 PM, #60
Cosign. I'd love to see some logs of PBFs, Nep nt,
Dervish,
19-Apr-10 02:31 PM, #61
RE: Here we go,
Daevryn,
19-Apr-10 02:54 PM, #62
RE: Cosign. I'd love to see some logs of PBFs, Nep nt,
Daevryn,
19-Apr-10 02:54 PM, #63
RE: Give out Cabal Rewards Sooner,
GrahamC,
19-Apr-10 02:55 PM, #64
I cant resist to quote you,
Dervish,
19-Apr-10 03:01 PM, #65
RE: Here we go,
Cerunnir,
19-Apr-10 03:16 PM, #66
RE: I cant resist to quote you,
Daevryn,
19-Apr-10 03:21 PM, #67
RE: Give out Cabal Rewards Sooner,
Daevryn,
19-Apr-10 03:24 PM, #68
Two points: cabal imbalance and shiny addictions,
Vortex Magus,
19-Apr-10 03:41 PM, #69
A batch of thoughts,
Mekantos,
19-Apr-10 03:54 PM, #70
RE: Heralds,
thendrell,
19-Apr-10 03:53 PM, #71
RE: Here we go,
Mekantos,
19-Apr-10 03:56 PM, #72
RE: movement regen,
Zulghinlour,
19-Apr-10 03:59 PM, #73
RE: Two points: cabal imbalance and shiny addictions,
Daevryn,
19-Apr-10 04:08 PM, #74
RE: movement regen,
Daevryn,
19-Apr-10 04:09 PM, #75
Some thoughts on making low/mid level pk better.,
Marcus_,
19-Apr-10 04:10 PM, #76
RE: Some thoughts on making low/mid level pk better.,
Daevryn,
19-Apr-10 04:13 PM, #77
Tell their names at least? nt,
Dervish,
19-Apr-10 04:18 PM, #78
RE: Equipment,
vargal,
19-Apr-10 04:23 PM, #79
I disagree on mage/melee,
laxman,
19-Apr-10 04:23 PM, #80
RE: movement regen,
Marcus_,
19-Apr-10 04:28 PM, #81
RE: Tell their names at least? nt,
Daevryn,
19-Apr-10 04:28 PM, #82
I beat down people with my four path invoker...,
TheLastMohican,
19-Apr-10 04:28 PM, #83
Perception is a killer,
laxman,
19-Apr-10 04:41 PM, #84
Holy crap Mulshine, I totally agree with you for once!,
TheLastMohican,
19-Apr-10 04:43 PM, #85
I agree with this.,
sorlag (Anonymous),
19-Apr-10 04:54 PM, #86
Well,
Dervish,
19-Apr-10 04:59 PM, #87
RE: I disagree on mage/melee,
Marcus_,
19-Apr-10 05:09 PM, #88
RE: Here we go,
Dervish,
19-Apr-10 05:12 PM, #89
RE: Perception is a killer,
Eskelian,
19-Apr-10 05:34 PM, #90
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
Isildur,
19-Apr-10 05:37 PM, #91
Urden, Jahfenar, Ilrahsek, Ikanu.,
Mekantos,
19-Apr-10 05:39 PM, #92
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
GrahamC,
19-Apr-10 05:50 PM, #93
again when did you see one try,
laxman,
19-Apr-10 06:07 PM, #94
do it once do it twice,
laxman,
19-Apr-10 06:12 PM, #95
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
laxman,
19-Apr-10 06:16 PM, #96
Its the luck factor...,
Elerosse,
19-Apr-10 06:29 PM, #97
RE: again when did you see one try,
Marcus_,
19-Apr-10 06:33 PM, #98
My opinion re: class balance at mid-levels:,
Valguarnera,
19-Apr-10 06:58 PM, #99
RE: Well,
Daevryn,
19-Apr-10 07:10 PM, #100
<== is king of that.,
trewyn,
19-Apr-10 07:32 PM, #101
RE: My Experience,
Tac,
19-Apr-10 07:50 PM, #102
Actually I do have one suggestion....,
Tac,
19-Apr-10 08:00 PM, #103
Ragers do get ####ed. But that's part of being a rager...,
TheLastMohican,
19-Apr-10 09:07 PM, #104
Good post.,
Zephon,
19-Apr-10 09:22 PM, #105
I pretty much agree with all of this,
Drag0nSt0rm,
19-Apr-10 10:51 PM, #106
Shout-out to the IMM staff within.,
TheLastMohican,
19-Apr-10 11:03 PM, #107
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
Asthiss,
20-Apr-10 02:40 AM, #108
I haven't read the rest of the posts, but I like mid le...,
Cointreau,
20-Apr-10 03:42 AM, #109
These are great observations. nt,
GinGa,
20-Apr-10 03:47 AM, #110
I like these suggestions a lot.,
ibuki,
20-Apr-10 05:11 AM, #111
RE: My opinion re: class balance at mid-levels:,
Cerunnir,
20-Apr-10 08:11 AM, #112
I disagree.,
Eskelian,
20-Apr-10 09:14 AM, #113
Not to me,
trewyn,
20-Apr-10 09:13 AM, #114
Spell Power Vs. Enhanced Damage,
Seilclavin,
20-Apr-10 09:52 AM, #115
RE: Not to me,
Daevryn,
20-Apr-10 09:55 AM, #116
RE: Not to me,
Cerunnir,
20-Apr-10 10:22 AM, #117
She did on Dio's.,
Dervish,
20-Apr-10 10:41 AM, #118
RE: Gear-based Spell Idea,
Quixotic,
20-Apr-10 11:52 AM, #119
RE: Gear-based Spell Idea,
Daevryn,
20-Apr-10 12:23 PM, #120
You overlooked,
Quixotic,
20-Apr-10 12:35 PM, #121
Another random thought.... re: scrolls,
Tac,
20-Apr-10 02:56 PM, #122
RE: I disagree.,
Asthiss,
21-Apr-10 02:18 AM, #123
Best way to equalize mages and melee,
Doof,
21-Apr-10 11:55 AM, #124
Adjust XP penalties, adjust ranking areas, adjust where,
Amortis,
22-Apr-10 09:52 AM, #125
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
Hutto,
22-Apr-10 10:10 AM, #126
re: expanded where,
Quixotic,
22-Apr-10 12:34 PM, #127
Con Loss.,
Pro,
22-Apr-10 01:57 PM, #128
For me, there is always a tickle in the back of my head...,
Habbs,
23-Apr-10 11:48 AM, #129
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
Doge,
23-Apr-10 09:49 PM, #130
There used to be no xp cap.,
trewyn,
23-Apr-10 10:55 PM, #131
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
Tsunami,
24-Apr-10 12:30 PM, #132
THE XP DYING PENALTY PLEASE,
dribbit,
24-Apr-10 08:49 PM, #133
If you can't find your way out of a strange area, quaff...,
DurNominator,
24-Apr-10 11:41 PM, #134
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
Tyrjal,
25-Apr-10 07:13 PM, #135
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
Straklaw,
26-Apr-10 04:00 AM, #136
RE: There used to be no xp cap.,
Doge,
26-Apr-10 02:23 PM, #137
An imm question related to this topic,
Habbs,
04-May-10 01:06 PM, #138
Mostly no:,
Daevryn,
04-May-10 01:26 PM, #139
RE: Best way to equalize mages and melee,
wjdenny,
05-May-10 02:16 PM, #140
But the good thing about seeing -34% tnl,
Pendragon_Surtr,
06-May-10 03:19 AM, #141
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
Gryshilniar,
06-May-10 12:09 PM, #142
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
Daevryn,
06-May-10 12:50 PM, #143
Now that this has cooked for a while,
Mekantos,
06-May-10 12:51 PM, #144
RE: Now that this has cooked for a while,
Daevryn,
06-May-10 12:53 PM, #145
RE: Gear-based Spell Idea,
The Heretic,
07-May-10 09:21 AM, #146
FYI, this is up on Announcements now (n/t),
Daevryn,
12-May-10 02:27 PM, #147
RE: movement regen,
Hutto,
13-May-10 05:00 PM, #148
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
A2,
13-May-10 11:45 PM, #149
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
Daevryn,
14-May-10 09:00 AM, #150
RE: movement regen,
Isildur,
14-May-10 11:19 AM, #151
RE: movement regen,
Isildur,
14-May-10 11:29 AM, #152
RE: Random topic of discussion: Midlevels,
A2,
14-May-10 11:33 AM, #153
Just a thought:,
Marcus_,
17-May-10 12:43 PM, #154
RE: Just a thought:,
Daevryn,
17-May-10 02:09 PM, #155
I actually like Marcus' idea.,
sleepy,
17-May-10 02:42 PM, #156
Hello from Hollywood.,
Pro,
18-May-10 01:31 AM, #157
RE: Just a thought:,
ORB,
18-May-10 08:37 AM, #158
As a total train whore,
Valkenar,
18-May-10 09:29 AM, #159
RE: Just a thought:,
Hutto,
18-May-10 10:57 AM, #160
Cosign.,
Dervish,
18-May-10 11:13 AM, #161
RE: As a total train whore,
Isildur,
18-May-10 04:10 PM, #162
Low level limited badassery items.,
Straklaw,
18-May-10 05:35 PM, #163
Using Marcus' idea but,
Abernyte,
19-May-10 06:19 AM, #164
Con trains,
Valkenar,
19-May-10 08:00 AM, #165
RE: Hello from Hollywood.,
Fjarn,
19-May-10 10:08 AM, #166
RE: Just a thought:,
Fjarn,
19-May-10 10:12 AM, #167
RE: Hello from Hollywood.,
sorlag (Anonymous),
19-May-10 10:23 AM, #168
Definitely,
Valkenar,
19-May-10 10:35 AM, #169
RE: Hello from Hollywood.,
Isildur,
19-May-10 12:38 PM, #170
RE: Hello from Hollywood.,
Valkenar,
19-May-10 12:56 PM, #171
RE: Hello from Hollywood.,
Isildur,
19-May-10 01:25 PM, #172
Meh,
Valkenar,
19-May-10 03:03 PM, #173
RE: Meh,
Isildur,
19-May-10 03:09 PM, #174
RE: Hello from Hollywood.,
sorlag (Anonymous),
19-May-10 03:11 PM, #175
Maybe,
Valkenar,
19-May-10 08:34 PM, #176
Thread locked for sprawl. Please start sub-topics. (n/...,
Valguarnera,
20-May-10 05:37 AM, #177
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