Adhelard | Fri 09-Jan-09 12:48 AM |
Member since 12th Apr 2006
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#23243, "You're kidding?"
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You realize that:
1. NO good conjurers have come close to 75/25 at hero.
2. Only *1* transmuter has managed 75/25 at hero: Llorenz (100/19) - There are two other transmuters that tallied more than 75 PKs at hero, Izuhlzin (89/28) and Runaktla (75/52), but both died >25 times.
3. Only 2 shapeshifters have managed 75/25 at hero: Pissudin and Kharnial. - Again, 4 others managed >75 hero kills (Morasfenmire, Hyzin, Akscerah, and Lezra, but all died >25 times).
So basically you're asking me to create either: 1. The most successful goodie conjurer, ever. 2. The second most successful transmuter, ever. or 3. The third most successful shapeshifter, ever. (Ironically, I don't think even your shapeshifters managed to accomplish your task.)
That's ridiculous. The point isn't to be the biggest badass with the class, the point is to be "viable" with 2 or less of ABorS. You're creating a challenge that Iza/Grudan/Java/you/etc. can't even accomplish using ABandS. That's not really fair.
Anyway, you're right, I don't think I could be the most successful transmuter, ever, with or without using ABandS. But seriously, if you want to propose something remotely reasonable I'm game
PS - Thanks to Gabe for his PBF analyzer, without which the above analysis would have been impossible.
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Sleek Aura/Barrier/Shield Wands
[View all] , Daevryn, Sun 04-Jan-09 10:58 PM
This could be good, great or completely make me give up...,
Kadsuane,
05-Jan-09 12:36 AM, #1
Quick question.,
Lightmage,
05-Jan-09 12:36 AM, #2
RE: Quick question.,
Zulghinlour,
05-Jan-09 12:38 AM, #3
RE: Quick question.,
Jhishesh,
05-Jan-09 01:17 AM, #4
RE: Quick question.,
Daevryn,
05-Jan-09 01:19 AM, #5
Is it still txt,
Larcat,
05-Jan-09 07:25 AM, #6
RE: Is it still txt,
Rayihn,
05-Jan-09 07:32 AM, #7
Detect artifact change,
Abernyte,
05-Jan-09 07:25 AM, #8
RE: Detect artifact change,
Grudan,
05-Jan-09 01:22 PM, #9
Perhaps somewhat differently,
incognito,
05-Jan-09 02:21 PM, #10
Personally, I'm not interested in lowering detect artif...,
Zulghinlour,
05-Jan-09 08:57 PM, #11
Detect Artifact?,
Pendragon_Surtr,
05-Jan-09 12:56 PM, #12
Try the helpfile...,
Zulghinlour,
05-Jan-09 01:00 PM, #13
Addition to the helpfile.,
Lightmage,
05-Jan-09 01:22 PM, #14
Thanks very much for this.,
GinGa,
05-Jan-09 03:04 PM, #15
What was the intended effect?,
Larcat,
05-Jan-09 03:47 PM, #16
RE: What was the intended effect?,
Daevryn,
05-Jan-09 03:54 PM, #17
RE: What was the intended effect?,
Kadsuane,
05-Jan-09 04:14 PM, #18
Exactly txt,
Larcat,
05-Jan-09 04:49 PM, #19
Well...,
Twist,
05-Jan-09 08:17 PM, #20
RE: Well...,
Grudan,
05-Jan-09 08:58 PM, #21
I hear ya...,
Lightmage,
05-Jan-09 08:58 PM, #22
RE: I hear ya...,
svarog,
08-Jan-09 07:18 AM, #23
Sorry, I meant....,
Lightmage,
08-Jan-09 10:52 AM, #24
So does that make the game more fun?,
Enbuergo1,
05-Jan-09 08:58 PM, #25
RE: Well...,
Xanthrailles,
06-Jan-09 09:52 PM, #26
Did you reply to the right post?,
Twist,
07-Jan-09 12:36 AM, #27
RE: Did you reply to the right post?,
Xanthrailles,
07-Jan-09 08:32 PM, #28
RE: What was the intended effect?,
Daevryn,
05-Jan-09 06:32 PM, #29
Well...,
Iza,
05-Jan-09 08:58 PM, #30
RE: Well...,
Daevryn,
05-Jan-09 10:03 PM, #31
RE: Well...,
Iza,
06-Jan-09 12:48 AM, #32
RE: Well...,
Klaak,
06-Jan-09 12:27 PM, #33
My thoughts,
Narissa,
06-Jan-09 09:52 PM, #34
Am I retarded, or did people miss these parts?,
TheLastMohican,
07-Jan-09 12:51 AM, #35
RE: Am I retarded, or did people miss these parts?,
Rayihn,
07-Jan-09 07:25 AM, #36
Yeah, realized this a bit after I posted, heh. NT,
TheLastMohican,
07-Jan-09 01:11 PM, #37
RE: Sleek Aura/Barrier/Shield Wands,
The Heretic,
07-Jan-09 01:11 PM, #38
They will, but,
Rayihn,
07-Jan-09 01:13 PM, #39
Here's something I don't grasp,
Mekantos,
07-Jan-09 03:37 PM, #40
RE: Here's something I don't grasp,
Rayihn,
07-Jan-09 03:47 PM, #41
But the problem...,
Java,
07-Jan-09 06:49 PM, #42
If you really think it will last for a few years... txt,
Larcat,
07-Jan-09 06:49 PM, #43
Prove it!,
Iza,
07-Jan-09 06:49 PM, #44
Can I have some more purple crack please.,
Lightmage,
07-Jan-09 08:32 PM, #45
When you say ABS..,
Adhelard,
07-Jan-09 09:35 PM, #46
I would say...,
EXB,
08-Jan-09 07:18 AM, #47
Clarification,
Lightmage,
08-Jan-09 07:18 AM, #48
RE: Clarification,
Daevryn,
08-Jan-09 08:51 AM, #49
re: Battle Berserker Sword Spec v. shapeshifter,
Quixotic,
08-Jan-09 10:52 AM, #50
RE: Clarification,
Adhelard,
08-Jan-09 01:22 PM, #51
75 pk wins with 25 losses at hero. (text),
Lightmage,
08-Jan-09 10:04 PM, #52
RE: 75 pk wins with 25 losses at hero. (text),
Daevryn,
08-Jan-09 10:35 PM, #53
I hear you...,
Lightmage,
09-Jan-09 07:34 AM, #54
There's a level 42 one that's in more than not. Surpri...,
TheLastMohican,
09-Jan-09 02:08 PM, #55
Everytime I do this with mages I still die.,
TheLastMohican,
09-Jan-09 07:34 AM, #56
RE: 75 pk wins with 25 losses at hero. (text),
Mekantos,
09-Jan-09 07:34 AM, #57
RE: 75 pk wins with 25 losses at hero. (text),
Kadsuane,
09-Jan-09 11:17 AM, #58
You're kidding?,
Adhelard,
09-Jan-09 07:34 AM #59
Well...,
Lightmage,
09-Jan-09 11:17 AM, #60
That's a problem to look at that way,
Elerosse,
09-Jan-09 01:28 PM, #61
RE: When you say ABS..,
The Heretic,
08-Jan-09 07:18 AM, #62
RE: When you say ABS..,
Daevryn,
08-Jan-09 08:39 AM, #63
Assuming equal talent, you're wrong.,
TheLastMohican,
09-Jan-09 02:08 PM, #64
I think you just got trolled by an imm~,
Enbuergo1,
09-Jan-09 07:34 AM, #65
RE: Here's something I don't grasp,
Grudan,
08-Jan-09 10:52 AM, #66
Coveting Sleeks,
Neltouda,
09-Jan-09 07:34 AM, #67
Exactly how this is going to play out txt,
Larcat,
07-Jan-09 06:49 PM, #68
RE: Exactly how this is going to play out txt,
Daevryn,
07-Jan-09 07:09 PM, #69
You guys cure symptoms,
Dwoggurd,
08-Jan-09 01:22 PM, #70
Revamping the Wand System,
Zephon,
09-Jan-09 07:34 AM, #71
You know what i find funny?,
Iza,
09-Jan-09 01:28 PM, #72
My suggestion,
incognito,
09-Jan-09 02:08 PM, #73
Were either of you even around when sleeks were rare an...,
Lhydia,
09-Jan-09 02:21 PM, #74
RE: You know what i find funny?,
Isildur,
09-Jan-09 03:06 PM, #75
RE: Can I have some more purple crack please.,
Isildur,
09-Jan-09 03:09 PM, #76
RE: That's a problem to look at that way,
Isildur,
09-Jan-09 03:20 PM, #77
RE: Sleek Aura/Barrier/Shield Wands,
Isildur,
09-Jan-09 03:22 PM, #78
RE: Sleek Aura/Barrier/Shield Wands,
Daevryn,
09-Jan-09 03:39 PM, #79
Sorry, but that's not right at all,
Mekantos,
09-Jan-09 03:48 PM, #80
You can thank...,
Mekantos,
09-Jan-09 03:49 PM, #81
RE: Sorry, but that's not right at all,
Adhelard,
09-Jan-09 04:25 PM, #82
But you are forgetting (ALSO: addressing another point),
Mekantos,
09-Jan-09 04:42 PM, #83
And,
Mekantos,
09-Jan-09 04:48 PM, #84
RE: Sorry, but that's not right at all,
Isildur,
09-Jan-09 05:04 PM, #85
RE: That's a problem to look at that way,
Elerosse,
09-Jan-09 05:09 PM, #86
Mage vs. Warriors,
Straklaw,
09-Jan-09 06:16 PM, #87
But, but...!,
Straklaw,
09-Jan-09 06:18 PM, #88
I've been thinking about that same thing..,
Elerosse,
09-Jan-09 06:45 PM, #89
"upper echelons" and my Genius Plan,
Adhelard,
09-Jan-09 06:48 PM, #90
You don't think...,
Adhelard,
09-Jan-09 06:54 PM, #91
Thanks for the nod.,
Nivek1,
09-Jan-09 07:00 PM, #92
I have solved the ABS problem: Master Plan,
Adhelard,
09-Jan-09 07:30 PM, #93
At some point the abs system did work like this.,
Kadsuane,
09-Jan-09 07:40 PM, #94
But then Satebos grabs all five and no other mage sees ...,
TheLastMohican,
09-Jan-09 07:46 PM, #95
Yep, and that's why B's system won't work. NT,
TheLastMohican,
09-Jan-09 07:48 PM, #96
Yeh I remember this...,
Lightmage,
09-Jan-09 07:52 PM, #97
It's the build you pick,
elmeri_,
09-Jan-09 08:03 PM, #98
Well, is that a problem?,
Adhelard,
09-Jan-09 08:08 PM, #99
I never fought you without barrier,
elmeri_,
09-Jan-09 08:29 PM, #100
I don't like this change,
elmeri_,
09-Jan-09 08:55 PM, #101
Game.,
Dallevian,
10-Jan-09 12:12 AM, #102
Even more sick.,
Dallevian,
10-Jan-09 12:19 AM, #103
They would also need to be locatable...,
Tac,
10-Jan-09 12:33 AM, #104
Thieves would rule over all mages,
Mekantos,
10-Jan-09 01:01 AM, #105
Huh?,
Mekantos,
10-Jan-09 01:03 AM, #106
As a hero,
Mekantos,
10-Jan-09 01:07 AM, #107
AND!,
Mekantos,
10-Jan-09 01:11 AM, #108
Well,
Mekantos,
10-Jan-09 01:14 AM, #109
Does anyone have a problem with...,
Mekantos,
10-Jan-09 01:17 AM, #110
Very cool idea. nt,
Drokk,
10-Jan-09 09:23 AM, #111
My Idea.,
Iza,
10-Jan-09 10:58 AM, #112
RE: My Idea.,
Daevryn,
10-Jan-09 05:21 PM, #113
I haven't found a sleek wand since the Second Age.,
Pendragon_Surtr,
10-Jan-09 05:33 PM, #114
As for thieves..,
Adhelard,
10-Jan-09 05:38 PM, #115
One problem, I don't need pimp gear at hero to compete ...,
TheLastMohican,
10-Jan-09 08:26 PM, #116
RE: One problem, I don't need pimp gear at hero to comp...,
Daevryn,
10-Jan-09 10:54 PM, #117
Cosign,
Dervish,
11-Jan-09 08:59 AM, #118
Originally...,
Iza,
11-Jan-09 02:25 PM, #119
I think it must be this part:,
Mekantos,
11-Jan-09 02:40 PM, #120
It's a good idea, just one thing.,
Amberion,
11-Jan-09 05:25 PM, #121
Yeah...,
Dervish,
11-Jan-09 05:41 PM, #122
That was what I understood the point of this change to ...,
Linolaques,
11-Jan-09 05:54 PM, #123
So...,
Linolaques,
11-Jan-09 06:05 PM, #124
As someone who doesn't keep wand lists,
DurNominator,
11-Jan-09 06:25 PM, #125
Heh. I agree.,
Iza,
11-Jan-09 06:37 PM, #126
RE: So...,
Iza,
11-Jan-09 07:35 PM, #127
Heh.,
TheLastMohican,
12-Jan-09 04:40 AM, #128
I agree, this is really disheartening to me.,
jad,
12-Jan-09 10:25 AM, #129
Regarding level playing fields and CF,
Grudan,
12-Jan-09 10:49 AM, #130
I don't think this is true...,
Elerosse,
12-Jan-09 11:19 AM, #131
RE: So...,
Linolaques,
12-Jan-09 11:36 AM, #132
Sounds like a great change to me. ~,
Elerosse,
12-Jan-09 11:56 AM, #133
It is true in that,
Rayihn,
12-Jan-09 01:20 PM, #134
Suggestion,
Mekantos,
12-Jan-09 01:41 PM, #135
I don't see that happening,
Rayihn,
12-Jan-09 03:16 PM, #136
Er...,
Mekantos,
12-Jan-09 03:38 PM, #137
I like this idea..,
Elerosse,
12-Jan-09 04:00 PM, #138
RE: I agree, this is really disheartening to me.,
incognito,
12-Jan-09 04:08 PM, #139
Problems/ Great for Occasional Players?,
Seilclavin,
13-Jan-09 11:20 AM, #140
My perspective from all sides...,
AsidMonk,
13-Jan-09 02:18 PM, #141
imo,
Quixotic,
13-Jan-09 10:20 PM, #142
Can't say I disagree,
AsidMonk,
14-Jan-09 02:56 AM, #143
RE: Sleek Aura/Barrier/Shield Wands,
Pendragon_Surtr,
17-Jan-09 08:20 AM, #144
Why?,
Eskelian,
21-Jan-09 01:19 AM, #145
RE: Here's something I don't grasp,
Eskelian,
21-Jan-09 01:27 AM, #146
RE: Clarification,
Eskelian,
21-Jan-09 01:50 AM, #147
RE: Sleek Aura/Barrier/Shield Wands,
Eskelian,
21-Jan-09 01:55 AM, #148
RE: That's a problem to look at that way,
Eskelian,
21-Jan-09 02:10 AM, #149
One very good reason:,
Mekantos,
21-Jan-09 02:13 AM, #150
RE: One very good reason:,
Eskelian,
21-Jan-09 02:19 AM, #151
I thought you could read.~,
Elerosse,
21-Jan-09 08:50 AM, #152
Right on. (text),
Lightmage,
21-Jan-09 06:48 PM, #153
And the PK losses?,
Adhelard,
21-Jan-09 08:14 PM, #154
RE: Here's something I don't grasp,
Adhelard,
21-Jan-09 08:10 PM, #155
A few times. Maybe 2 or 3 times in last 6 years or so....,
Lightmage,
21-Jan-09 08:39 PM, #156
Clarification...(small text),
Lightmage,
21-Jan-09 08:41 PM, #157
RE: Why?,
Gabe,
26-Jan-09 11:58 PM, #158
After reading ~60% of this thread...,
Splntrd,
27-Jan-09 03:22 PM, #159
What we need is a newbie IMM. Which, coincedentally, i...,
TheLastMohican,
27-Jan-09 04:20 PM, #160
Though optimistic this system officially makes me wish ...,
EXB,
28-Jan-09 04:21 AM, #161
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