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GaenlinTue 29-Mar-05 02:22 PM
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#8046, "RE: Complete Battle Revamp: My Most Controversial Idea Thus Far"


          

Dear Immortals:

Here is what I propose.

1. Deathblow only working on mages, and give mages a cabal.

This is pretty big. Ragers should have a bad matchup right now save for the aforementioned shamans, but Masters weren't nearly as bad a matchup for Battle when:

They didn't have Empire backing them up
Clerics and paladins became communers and no longer Masters (HUGE)

Or, have deathblow work, but at a maximum of x3, and not as consistently. Rager Berserker Warriors (RBW's for the rest of this) are very powerful as is and the amount of damage one can truck out, even through preps, is mind-numbing.

Every mage has a horrible matchup against the Tuggluk-style dwarf rager warrior if played properly. Pincer, pincer, might as well pack up your things and try and word, if you're lucky enough to. This is why the return of something resembling Master to fight the Battleragers is very necessary.

2. Availability of preps to combat 'Ragers.

Arguably, this has been the case since day one. Why deathblow is still in the game in its current form, I don't understand. Battle is the lazy man's response to gathering preps (which do take quite a bit of work if you're doing it solo and with the wrong class). Make preps considerably less rare and hard to find, perhaps even sold at stores at a high price (10,000+). I know of one prep like that, I'm sure there's more.

3. Regular bash protection should stop warrior skills sometimes.

aka cranial, pincer, crushing blow. If you can lag a mage, then you win as a Battlerager. Most mages can't stop the pincer lag.

Lastly, if you see anything doing too good with the minimum of effort required, tone it down (aka pincer) Do not wait and watch other people complain and complain, try looking at it in your Super Duper Immortal Labs. Do not flame or deny the poster, since this has happened so much in the past I cannot count the times.

Best regards.

  

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HOT TopicComplete Battle Revamp: My Most Controversial Idea Thus... [View all] , Wilhath, Mon 28-Mar-05 10:32 PM
Reply A last word on this, Khasotholas, 01-Apr-05 09:09 AM, #38
Reply Thanks big guy, Wilhath, 01-Apr-05 09:31 AM, #39
Reply Woot Khasotholas!, Straklaw, 01-Apr-05 11:26 AM, #40
Reply Soooo...., Mekantos, 31-Mar-05 12:08 PM, #31
Reply Stop crying already..., ORB, 31-Mar-05 07:50 AM, #28
Reply Make deathblow more powerful against gangs, Theerkla, 31-Mar-05 11:29 AM, #30
Reply Re: Battle Revamp & replies, NNNick, 31-Mar-05 03:42 AM, #27
Reply One point:, nepenthe, 31-Mar-05 08:34 AM, #29
     Reply RE: One point:, NNNick, 31-Mar-05 02:01 PM, #32
          Reply RE: One point:, (NOT Graatch), 31-Mar-05 02:17 PM, #33
          Reply RE: One point:, Evil Genius (Anonymous), 01-Apr-05 07:40 AM, #37
               Reply Small update, NNNick, 01-Apr-05 11:58 AM, #41
Reply How about this Immortals...., NewTrapper, 29-Mar-05 07:50 PM, #22
Reply wow, incognito, 29-Mar-05 08:00 PM, #23
     Reply RE: wow, Valkenar, 30-Mar-05 10:47 AM, #24
          Reply if you read his post, incognito, 30-Mar-05 11:38 AM, #25
Reply RE: Complete Battle Revamp: My Most Controversial Idea ..., Aarn, 29-Mar-05 02:49 PM, #15
Reply RE: Complete Battle Revamp: My Most Controversial Idea ..., Gaenlin, 29-Mar-05 02:22 PM #13
Reply RE: Complete Battle Revamp: My Most Controversial Idea ..., nepenthe, 29-Mar-05 02:30 PM, #14
Reply RE: The tweaking process., Valguarnera, 29-Mar-05 02:53 PM, #16
Reply rock paper scissors on crack, Tahren, 29-Mar-05 03:00 PM, #17
Reply Duh, Dwoggurd, 29-Mar-05 10:43 AM, #5
Reply Echo, Evil Genius (Anonymous), 29-Mar-05 11:36 AM, #6
Reply Harrumph, Khasotholas, 29-Mar-05 10:16 AM, #4
Reply RE: Harrumph, Tahren, 29-Mar-05 11:59 AM, #7
Reply RE: Harrumph, Evil Genius (Anonymous), 29-Mar-05 12:01 PM, #8
     Reply RE: Harrumph, Tahren, 29-Mar-05 03:17 PM, #18
          Reply RE: Harrumph, Evil Genius (Anonymous), 29-Mar-05 04:03 PM, #19
               Reply I've actually always thought a druid could have a solid..., (NOT Graatch), 29-Mar-05 04:34 PM, #20
               Reply I don't think we disagree here, Tahren, 29-Mar-05 06:16 PM, #21
Reply So how about answer when Morts of battle have questions, Drag0nSt0rm, 29-Mar-05 12:35 PM, #9
     Reply I didn't post this expecting "something to be done", Wilhath, 29-Mar-05 12:48 PM, #10
          Reply Don't kid yourself, Drag0nSt0rm, 29-Mar-05 01:02 PM, #11
               Reply RE: Don't kid yourself, nepenthe, 29-Mar-05 01:56 PM, #12
                    Reply Well, Drag0nSt0rm, 30-Mar-05 12:44 PM, #26
Reply a few things I'd think need addressing, incognito, 29-Mar-05 05:55 AM, #2
Reply RE: a few things I'd think need addressing, Wilhath, 29-Mar-05 08:58 AM, #3
Reply I like the general concept, change is good. n/t, rulanit, 29-Mar-05 04:44 AM, #1
     Reply By the hairs on me stinkin' arse..., HammerSong, 31-Mar-05 02:36 PM, #34
          Reply Hairs aside..., Khasotholas, 31-Mar-05 02:56 PM, #35
               Reply RE: Hairs aside..., HammerSong, 31-Mar-05 03:19 PM, #36
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