Jarmel | Wed 20-Sep-17 08:45 PM |
Member since 19th Jul 2015
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#68952, "RE: 4b with some investigation can allow a flag. 8 doesn't"
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Firstly don't look at the points in isolation all 8 must be considered this was 100% my intent on the method of application and this is why i detailed events with a rinse and repeat.
A couple of things "If a criminal periodically retreats to receive healing or shielding from someone who doesn't enter the city themselves, then yes, that someone is committing a crime. If you can prove the fact, go ahead and flag. Send a lowbie assassin to catch them in the act or something."
Wait what? - So you can flag 4b for the below on the word of a lowbie outside town but you cannot yourself flag for something you have witnessed because you are outside town, which of the two is more credible. - Even investigating a crime in a city which I did not witness the word of one person is not good enough and you should know this! Hence why the "elsewhere" example resulted in no flag, both offenders denied it and I had one chaotic witness.
"But if both the criminal and the assister are outside city borders at all times, then the crime does not lie within any Tribunal's jurisdiction and thus cannot lead to a flag. You can call it a crime if you wish, but you cannot flag for it -- it has not happened within your jurisdiction. Therefore you cannot flag for 8."
Explain why not, there is intent, frequency and proximity in action of the group of 4, and as stated above you are looking at the points in isolation.
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Trib Law for Murphy
[View all] , Lhydia, Tue 12-Sep-17 05:22 AM
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Law vs. Man,
Saagkri,
21-Sep-17 05:49 PM, #62
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Law vs. Man,
Jarmel,
25-Sep-17 10:48 PM, #70
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Trib Law and Consequences,
Tac,
21-Sep-17 04:00 PM, #60
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) That's my main issue with creative flagging,
Kstatida,
21-Sep-17 04:08 PM, #61
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I think that's universally true. No one argues their m...,
Tac,
22-Sep-17 11:32 AM, #65
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Trib Law and Consequences,
Jarmel,
25-Sep-17 10:55 PM, #71
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Yeah that's what I do,
Murphy,
26-Sep-17 01:09 AM, #72
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Yeah that's what I do,
Kstatida,
26-Sep-17 02:26 AM, #73
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Trib Law and Consequences,
Tac,
26-Sep-17 10:49 AM, #74
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Epic fail Murphy,
Lhydia,
21-Sep-17 08:26 AM, #57
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Epic fail Murphy,
Kstatida,
21-Sep-17 08:59 AM, #58
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Good for you. Move along.,
Murphy,
21-Sep-17 09:51 AM, #59
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Not everything is free to be reinterpreted,
Murphy,
18-Sep-17 08:18 AM, #1
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Not everything is free to be reinterpreted,
Jarmel,
18-Sep-17 08:59 AM, #2
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) You're making no sense, please stay on topic.,
Murphy,
18-Sep-17 09:18 AM, #4
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Was that before or after he left the game forever? n/t,
Lhydia,
18-Sep-17 09:05 AM, #3
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) i feel like you know this,
laxman,
18-Sep-17 11:16 PM, #5
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Exactly,
Murphy,
19-Sep-17 12:52 AM, #6
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Any IMM care to weigh in here? (n/t),
Current challenge (Anonymous),
19-Sep-17 02:22 PM, #7
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Sure.,
Ishuli ,
20-Sep-17 12:16 PM, #8
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Do you take into account,
Kstatida,
20-Sep-17 12:58 PM, #9
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) You're assuming,
sleepy,
20-Sep-17 03:50 PM, #10
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) As someone who was around at the time...,
Lhydia,
20-Sep-17 03:52 PM, #12
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: As someone who was around at the time...,
sleepy,
20-Sep-17 04:11 PM, #13
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I don't think CF's trib laws were written by lawyers,
lasentia,
22-Sep-17 09:22 AM, #64
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Do you take into account,
Ishuli ,
20-Sep-17 03:49 PM, #11
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Flagging someone who defends their cabal,
Murphy,
20-Sep-17 04:33 PM, #14
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Flagging someone who defends their cabal,
Ishuli ,
20-Sep-17 04:43 PM, #15
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) So being off-duty matters after all?,
Murphy,
20-Sep-17 04:59 PM, #16
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: So being off-duty matters after all?,
Ishuli ,
20-Sep-17 05:38 PM, #17
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: So being off-duty matters after all?,
Murphy,
20-Sep-17 08:02 PM, #21
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: So being off-duty matters after all?,
Ishuli ,
20-Sep-17 08:13 PM, #22
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) What do you mean it doesn't specify jurisdiction?,
Murphy,
20-Sep-17 08:52 PM, #26
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: What do you mean it doesn't specify jurisdiction?,
Ishuli ,
20-Sep-17 09:20 PM, #39
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Holy Molly!,
Kstatida,
21-Sep-17 04:56 AM, #54
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: So being off-duty matters after all?,
sleepy,
20-Sep-17 09:00 PM, #28
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: So being off-duty matters after all?,
Ishuli ,
20-Sep-17 09:17 PM, #35
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: So being off-duty matters after all?,
sleepy,
20-Sep-17 09:34 PM, #42
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: So being off-duty matters after all?,
Ishuli ,
20-Sep-17 09:53 PM, #45
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Fellow 2L checking in!,
Andrlos,
21-Sep-17 05:51 AM, #56
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Three law students? You poor bastards :),
lasentia,
22-Sep-17 08:56 AM, #63
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Fellow 2L checking in!,
sleepy,
22-Sep-17 02:34 PM, #66
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Fellow 2L checking in!,
Andrlos,
22-Sep-17 05:29 PM, #67
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Fellow 2L checking in!,
sleepy,
22-Sep-17 10:38 PM, #68
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: So being off-duty matters after all?,
Kstatida,
21-Sep-17 05:15 AM, #55
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: So being off-duty matters after all?,
Jarmel,
20-Sep-17 09:04 PM, #30
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I mean...,
sleepy,
20-Sep-17 09:15 PM, #33
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: I mean...,
Jarmel,
20-Sep-17 09:33 PM, #41
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: I mean...,
sleepy,
20-Sep-17 09:38 PM, #43
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: I mean...,
Jarmel,
21-Sep-17 12:38 AM, #50
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) My example was terrible Criminal A Criminal B,
Jarmel,
21-Sep-17 12:43 AM, #51
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Tribunal library. Look for Precedents :-D,
Quixotic,
20-Sep-17 07:00 PM, #19
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Exactly,
Jarmel,
20-Sep-17 06:22 PM, #18
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) 4b with some investigation can allow a flag. 8 doesn't,
Murphy,
20-Sep-17 07:54 PM, #20
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: 4b with some investigation can allow a flag. 8 does...,
Jarmel,
20-Sep-17 08:45 PM #24
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Are you just deliberately misinterpreting my words?,
Murphy,
20-Sep-17 09:05 PM, #31
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I simply quoted you first and questioned what was said,
Jarmel,
20-Sep-17 09:18 PM, #36
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) See post #37.,
Murphy,
20-Sep-17 09:27 PM, #38
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: See post #48.,
Jarmel,
21-Sep-17 12:54 AM, #52
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Exactly,
sleepy,
20-Sep-17 08:33 PM, #23
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) He argues that your intent doesn't matter,
Murphy,
20-Sep-17 08:49 PM, #25
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Focus on my example first ...,
Jarmel,
20-Sep-17 09:00 PM, #29
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Exactly,
Jarmel,
20-Sep-17 08:58 PM, #27
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Exactly,
sleepy,
20-Sep-17 09:16 PM, #32
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Exactly,
Jarmel,
20-Sep-17 09:16 PM, #34
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) That doesn't really answer the Q,
sleepy,
20-Sep-17 09:24 PM, #40
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: That doesn't really answer the Q,
Jarmel,
20-Sep-17 10:06 PM, #46
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) That line in the sand cannot be drawn the way you draw ...,
Murphy,
20-Sep-17 09:19 PM, #37
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: That line in the sand cannot be drawn the way you d...,
Jarmel,
20-Sep-17 09:48 PM, #44
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Here's what I imagined that can justify a flag:,
Murphy,
20-Sep-17 10:31 PM, #47
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I can see your point,
Jarmel,
20-Sep-17 11:57 PM, #48
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) What if...,
sleepy,
21-Sep-17 01:42 AM, #53
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: What if...,
Jarmel,
25-Sep-17 10:36 PM, #69
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Ok I have got this now,
Jarmel,
21-Sep-17 12:18 AM, #49
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