Moligant | Fri 10-Jan-14 11:13 AM |
Member since 30th Dec 2010
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#53609, "RE: Assassin kicks"
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A few ideas to improve assassin kicks at low level.
One idea for wheel kick is that once mastered it has a small chance to interrupt certain skills (blackjack, ambush, backstab, bash) basicaly skills that require the user to get in close phsyically to initiate combat. This would only work when the user tries to initiate combat. The thought behind this is that being the first kick an assassin learns it should be second nature to respond immediately (without thought) to an incoming attack with this kick.
This also means you don't actually have to 'use' wheel kick its just a nice add-on that would give it practical utility making it worth mastering. Martial trance should significantly increase the success rate of this.
I'd have 'sweep kick' when mastered be a skill like 'bag of tricks' that allows for a vsariety of effects in combat. I'd also throw in additional effects on top of that if the assassin is in a martial trance. For example:
Mastered sweep kick should have a chance to feint,-mvs, and give target a slight 'soften' effect.
Mastered sweep kick while in martial trance should increase the previous effects and in addition allow for a chance for a free second kick.
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For discussion: abilities that stop being good
[View all] , Daevryn, Thu 09-Jan-14 11:10 AM
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: For discussion: abilities that stop being good,
Want2Shift. (Anonymous),
27-Jan-14 11:04 PM, #99
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) How about a discussion for edges that are not worth it.,
Eskelian,
27-Jan-14 04:02 PM, #96
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: How about a discussion for edges that are not worth...,
Illanthos,
27-Jan-14 05:58 PM, #97
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: How about a discussion for edges that are not worth...,
Daevryn,
27-Jan-14 08:28 PM, #98
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Did nothing for me when I took it,
KaguMaru,
28-Jan-14 05:32 AM, #100
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Did nothing for me when I took it,
Daevryn,
28-Jan-14 08:54 AM, #102
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Opportunity cost.,
Eskelian,
28-Jan-14 08:38 AM, #101
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Chromatic fire. Though it is never good.,
Tesline,
27-Jan-14 02:56 PM, #95
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) rallyforces,
Ex Orc Chief (Anonymous),
18-Jan-14 10:50 AM, #93
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: rallyforces,
Straklaw,
18-Jan-14 05:34 PM, #94
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Will'o'the'wisp,
Scrimbul,
11-Jan-14 07:13 PM, #76
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Few conjurer spells,
Drag0nSt0rm,
11-Jan-14 08:24 PM, #79
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Few conjurer spells,
Eskelian,
11-Jan-14 11:50 PM, #81
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Flash is fine...,
Scrimbul,
12-Jan-14 10:45 AM, #83
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Flash is fine...,
Daevryn,
12-Jan-14 12:18 PM, #84
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Interesting.,
Scrimbul,
12-Jan-14 02:17 PM, #85
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Interesting.,
Eskelian,
13-Jan-14 12:17 AM, #88
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Your going to do it,
CD,
13-Jan-14 12:30 AM, #89
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Maybe, if there's ever a time goodies aren't overwhelmi...,
Eskelian,
13-Jan-14 03:34 AM, #90
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Isnt the point of flash to force people onto you over s...,
CD,
12-Jan-14 07:54 PM, #86
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Isnt the point of flash to force people onto you ov...,
Daevryn,
12-Jan-14 08:15 PM, #87
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I used will-o-wisp once,
KaguMaru,
12-Jan-14 05:38 AM, #82
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: For discussion: abilities that stop being good,
Daevryn,
10-Jan-14 11:24 PM, #69
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Shapeshifters,
Klaak,
10-Jan-14 05:44 PM, #58
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Just deleted a shapeshifter and got a ton of mileage fr...,
TMNS,
10-Jan-14 05:58 PM, #59
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Shapeshifters,
Daevryn,
10-Jan-14 08:10 PM, #61
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Shapeshifters,
Zephon,
10-Jan-14 09:05 PM, #64
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Leverage kick and poison darts n/t,
Hopelessdwarf,
10-Jan-14 11:43 AM, #51
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I like poison darts.,
Homard,
10-Jan-14 01:25 PM, #55
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Leverage kick and poison darts n/t,
Daevryn,
10-Jan-14 08:11 PM, #63
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) predator's stance,
Dallevian,
10-Jan-14 11:35 AM, #50
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: predator's stance,
Daevryn,
10-Jan-14 08:10 PM, #62
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Perhaps a further bonus to "animal" attacks,
Murphy,
11-Jan-14 12:28 AM, #71
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) some sort of auto strike or auto defend,
Dallevian,
11-Jan-14 07:52 PM, #78
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) tame,
Dallevian,
10-Jan-14 11:08 AM, #46
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) bramblepit,
Dallevian,
10-Jan-14 11:05 AM, #45
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: bramblepit,
Daevryn,
10-Jan-14 02:15 PM, #56
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) yes. it did an *edited*,
Dallevian,
10-Jan-14 02:54 PM, #57
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Plainsrunning,
Kalageadon,
10-Jan-14 07:05 PM, #60
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: yes. it did an *edited*,
Daevryn,
10-Jan-14 09:57 PM, #65
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: yes. it did an *edited*,
kolb,
10-Jan-14 10:07 PM, #66
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Just call it brample trap,
Abernyte,
11-Jan-14 07:39 AM, #73
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) what it needs,
Dallevian,
11-Jan-14 07:50 PM, #77
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Haven-,
Faenral (Anonymous),
10-Jan-14 10:42 AM, #42
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Haven-,
Daevryn,
10-Jan-14 11:03 AM, #44
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Another use for Haven.,
wareagle,
10-Jan-14 11:16 AM, #48
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Most spell-based maledicts,
KaguMaru,
10-Jan-14 07:56 AM, #40
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Ranger things,
-flso,
09-Jan-14 07:37 PM, #31
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Improvise weapon,
Murphy,
10-Jan-14 11:28 AM, #49
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Charge + Pierce,
vargal,
09-Jan-14 05:10 PM, #22
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Charge + Pierce,
Daevryn,
09-Jan-14 07:13 PM, #26
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Charge,
vargal,
10-Jan-14 12:05 PM, #52
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Piercing Dissonance nt,
TJHuron,
09-Jan-14 04:28 PM, #18
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Piercing Dissonance nt,
Illanthos,
09-Jan-14 07:51 PM, #32
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Piercing Dissonance nt,
TJHuron,
09-Jan-14 11:11 PM, #39
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Piercing Dissonance nt,
lasentia,
10-Jan-14 12:49 PM, #53
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) not all of these are ever useful,
laxman,
09-Jan-14 02:34 PM, #11
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: not all of these are ever useful,
Ekaerok (Anonymous),
09-Jan-14 02:58 PM, #13
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: not all of these are ever useful,
Daevryn,
09-Jan-14 07:17 PM, #27
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I think (re: partial shifts) a couple things...,
TMNS,
09-Jan-14 10:35 PM, #38
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) expansion on ideas for partials,
laxman,
10-Jan-14 11:03 AM, #43
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I really like all of these...,
TMNS,
10-Jan-14 12:52 PM, #54
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: I think (re: partial shifts) a couple things...,
Daevryn,
10-Jan-14 11:21 PM, #68
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Gate. NT,
TMNS,
09-Jan-14 02:16 PM, #9
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: For discussion: abilities that stop being good,
Moligant,
09-Jan-14 01:12 PM, #7
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: For discussion: abilities that stop being good,
Daevryn,
09-Jan-14 07:20 PM, #28
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Kick/Elbow/Knee/etc,
Sarien,
09-Jan-14 01:10 PM, #6
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Kick/Elbow/Knee/etc -edge?,
Calion,
09-Jan-14 02:27 PM, #10
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Kick/Elbow/Knee/etc -edge?,
Eskelian,
09-Jan-14 02:56 PM, #12
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Yeah, that would be useless, figured it has to be somet...,
Calion,
09-Jan-14 03:06 PM, #15
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Kick/Elbow/Knee/etc -edge?,
Ekaerok (Anonymous),
09-Jan-14 03:03 PM, #14
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Kick/Elbow/Knee/etc -edge?,
Calion,
09-Jan-14 03:13 PM, #16
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Kick/Elbow/Knee/etc,
Daevryn,
09-Jan-14 07:23 PM, #29
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Could you elaborate a bit?,
Calion,
13-Jan-14 04:13 PM, #91
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Few early abilities for shamans and APs,
Torak,
09-Jan-14 12:49 PM, #5
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Few early abilities for shamans and APs,
Vonzamir,
09-Jan-14 02:08 PM, #8
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Some notes,
Torak,
09-Jan-14 04:59 PM, #20
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Polearm is there so you can defend from it. nt,
Artificial,
09-Jan-14 10:01 PM, #37
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) armor spell for rangers,
morocco,
09-Jan-14 12:13 PM, #4
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) PS: hunter precision at whatever level warriors get min...,
morocco,
09-Jan-14 03:39 PM, #17
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Dervish dance is ftw n/t,
Destuvius ,
09-Jan-14 04:50 PM, #19
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Seconded,
Torak,
09-Jan-14 05:03 PM, #21
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) i forgot dance, dance is great, but you give up snare (...,
morocco,
09-Jan-14 06:23 PM, #23
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: armor spell for rangers,
Daevryn,
10-Jan-14 10:31 PM, #67
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Makes sense to me. n/t,
Eskelian,
11-Jan-14 12:17 AM, #70
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) not all rangers get barkskin, but that's ok,
morocco,
11-Jan-14 05:47 AM, #72
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: For discussion: abilities that stop being good,
Mort,
09-Jan-14 11:25 AM, #2
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Assassin kicks,
Zephon,
09-Jan-14 11:25 AM, #1
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Assassin kicks,
Eskelian,
09-Jan-14 11:49 AM, #3
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Assassin kicks,
Daevryn,
09-Jan-14 08:02 PM, #36
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Assassin kicks,
Moligant,
10-Jan-14 11:13 AM #47
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Assassin kicks,
Isildur,
11-Jan-14 09:24 AM, #74
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) FWIW, mule is epic. One round lag, feints, mega damage....,
Eskelian,
11-Jan-14 10:00 PM, #80
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) throw,
Malakhi,
09-Jan-14 06:38 PM, #24
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Fwiw, I would still use throw on a gnome.,
Zephon,
09-Jan-14 07:00 PM, #25
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: throw,
Daevryn,
09-Jan-14 07:27 PM, #30
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: throw,
Elerosse,
09-Jan-14 07:54 PM, #33
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: throw,
Illanthos,
09-Jan-14 07:57 PM, #34
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: throw,
Eskelian,
09-Jan-14 08:02 PM, #35
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) To play Devil's advocate...,
Sarien,
10-Jan-14 09:04 AM, #41
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: throw,
Marcus_,
15-Jan-14 10:18 AM, #92
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: throw,
Isildur,
11-Jan-14 09:26 AM, #75
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