laxman | Thu 09-Jan-14 02:34 PM |
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#53567, "not all of these are ever useful"
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Tsunami (shaman, druid, invoker) - fights on water are pretty rare and you almost always have a better damage option even if not maybe an area damage option
Drown - maybe let this work (not as well) in rooms that have a water source in them like a spring or fountain, all it ever ends up being used for is spamming, its not even useful for ranking since almost all mobs in places it can be used are immune to water damage.
Shifter partial shifts - while in theory they could be worthwhile if you want to use wands/staves/scrolls out of form at higher ranks the fact you spend almost your whole life in form generally means you have a 75% parry skill so you fall over like a wet blanket without overprepping in any case you would actually want to use out of form tactics.
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For discussion: abilities that stop being good
[View all] , Daevryn, Thu 09-Jan-14 11:10 AM
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: For discussion: abilities that stop being good,
Want2Shift. (Anonymous),
27-Jan-14 11:04 PM, #99
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) How about a discussion for edges that are not worth it.,
Eskelian,
27-Jan-14 04:02 PM, #96
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: How about a discussion for edges that are not worth...,
Illanthos,
27-Jan-14 05:58 PM, #97
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: How about a discussion for edges that are not worth...,
Daevryn,
27-Jan-14 08:28 PM, #98
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Did nothing for me when I took it,
KaguMaru,
28-Jan-14 05:32 AM, #100
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Did nothing for me when I took it,
Daevryn,
28-Jan-14 08:54 AM, #102
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Opportunity cost.,
Eskelian,
28-Jan-14 08:38 AM, #101
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Chromatic fire. Though it is never good.,
Tesline,
27-Jan-14 02:56 PM, #95
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) rallyforces,
Ex Orc Chief (Anonymous),
18-Jan-14 10:50 AM, #93
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: rallyforces,
Straklaw,
18-Jan-14 05:34 PM, #94
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Will'o'the'wisp,
Scrimbul,
11-Jan-14 07:13 PM, #76
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Few conjurer spells,
Drag0nSt0rm,
11-Jan-14 08:24 PM, #79
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Few conjurer spells,
Eskelian,
11-Jan-14 11:50 PM, #81
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Flash is fine...,
Scrimbul,
12-Jan-14 10:45 AM, #83
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Flash is fine...,
Daevryn,
12-Jan-14 12:18 PM, #84
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Interesting.,
Scrimbul,
12-Jan-14 02:17 PM, #85
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Interesting.,
Eskelian,
13-Jan-14 12:17 AM, #88
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Your going to do it,
CD,
13-Jan-14 12:30 AM, #89
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Maybe, if there's ever a time goodies aren't overwhelmi...,
Eskelian,
13-Jan-14 03:34 AM, #90
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Isnt the point of flash to force people onto you over s...,
CD,
12-Jan-14 07:54 PM, #86
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Isnt the point of flash to force people onto you ov...,
Daevryn,
12-Jan-14 08:15 PM, #87
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I used will-o-wisp once,
KaguMaru,
12-Jan-14 05:38 AM, #82
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: For discussion: abilities that stop being good,
Daevryn,
10-Jan-14 11:24 PM, #69
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Shapeshifters,
Klaak,
10-Jan-14 05:44 PM, #58
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Just deleted a shapeshifter and got a ton of mileage fr...,
TMNS,
10-Jan-14 05:58 PM, #59
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Shapeshifters,
Daevryn,
10-Jan-14 08:10 PM, #61
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Shapeshifters,
Zephon,
10-Jan-14 09:05 PM, #64
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Leverage kick and poison darts n/t,
Hopelessdwarf,
10-Jan-14 11:43 AM, #51
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I like poison darts.,
Homard,
10-Jan-14 01:25 PM, #55
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Leverage kick and poison darts n/t,
Daevryn,
10-Jan-14 08:11 PM, #63
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) predator's stance,
Dallevian,
10-Jan-14 11:35 AM, #50
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: predator's stance,
Daevryn,
10-Jan-14 08:10 PM, #62
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Perhaps a further bonus to "animal" attacks,
Murphy,
11-Jan-14 12:28 AM, #71
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) some sort of auto strike or auto defend,
Dallevian,
11-Jan-14 07:52 PM, #78
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) tame,
Dallevian,
10-Jan-14 11:08 AM, #46
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) bramblepit,
Dallevian,
10-Jan-14 11:05 AM, #45
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: bramblepit,
Daevryn,
10-Jan-14 02:15 PM, #56
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) yes. it did an *edited*,
Dallevian,
10-Jan-14 02:54 PM, #57
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Plainsrunning,
Kalageadon,
10-Jan-14 07:05 PM, #60
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: yes. it did an *edited*,
Daevryn,
10-Jan-14 09:57 PM, #65
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: yes. it did an *edited*,
kolb,
10-Jan-14 10:07 PM, #66
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Just call it brample trap,
Abernyte,
11-Jan-14 07:39 AM, #73
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) what it needs,
Dallevian,
11-Jan-14 07:50 PM, #77
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Haven-,
Faenral (Anonymous),
10-Jan-14 10:42 AM, #42
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Haven-,
Daevryn,
10-Jan-14 11:03 AM, #44
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Another use for Haven.,
wareagle,
10-Jan-14 11:16 AM, #48
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Most spell-based maledicts,
KaguMaru,
10-Jan-14 07:56 AM, #40
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Ranger things,
-flso,
09-Jan-14 07:37 PM, #31
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Improvise weapon,
Murphy,
10-Jan-14 11:28 AM, #49
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Charge + Pierce,
vargal,
09-Jan-14 05:10 PM, #22
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Charge + Pierce,
Daevryn,
09-Jan-14 07:13 PM, #26
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Charge,
vargal,
10-Jan-14 12:05 PM, #52
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Piercing Dissonance nt,
TJHuron,
09-Jan-14 04:28 PM, #18
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Piercing Dissonance nt,
Illanthos,
09-Jan-14 07:51 PM, #32
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Piercing Dissonance nt,
TJHuron,
09-Jan-14 11:11 PM, #39
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Piercing Dissonance nt,
lasentia,
10-Jan-14 12:49 PM, #53
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) not all of these are ever useful,
laxman,
09-Jan-14 02:34 PM #11
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: not all of these are ever useful,
Ekaerok (Anonymous),
09-Jan-14 02:58 PM, #13
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: not all of these are ever useful,
Daevryn,
09-Jan-14 07:17 PM, #27
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I think (re: partial shifts) a couple things...,
TMNS,
09-Jan-14 10:35 PM, #38
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) expansion on ideas for partials,
laxman,
10-Jan-14 11:03 AM, #43
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I really like all of these...,
TMNS,
10-Jan-14 12:52 PM, #54
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: I think (re: partial shifts) a couple things...,
Daevryn,
10-Jan-14 11:21 PM, #68
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Gate. NT,
TMNS,
09-Jan-14 02:16 PM, #9
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: For discussion: abilities that stop being good,
Moligant,
09-Jan-14 01:12 PM, #7
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: For discussion: abilities that stop being good,
Daevryn,
09-Jan-14 07:20 PM, #28
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Kick/Elbow/Knee/etc,
Sarien,
09-Jan-14 01:10 PM, #6
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Kick/Elbow/Knee/etc -edge?,
Calion,
09-Jan-14 02:27 PM, #10
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Kick/Elbow/Knee/etc -edge?,
Eskelian,
09-Jan-14 02:56 PM, #12
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Yeah, that would be useless, figured it has to be somet...,
Calion,
09-Jan-14 03:06 PM, #15
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Kick/Elbow/Knee/etc -edge?,
Ekaerok (Anonymous),
09-Jan-14 03:03 PM, #14
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Kick/Elbow/Knee/etc -edge?,
Calion,
09-Jan-14 03:13 PM, #16
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Kick/Elbow/Knee/etc,
Daevryn,
09-Jan-14 07:23 PM, #29
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Could you elaborate a bit?,
Calion,
13-Jan-14 04:13 PM, #91
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Few early abilities for shamans and APs,
Torak,
09-Jan-14 12:49 PM, #5
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Few early abilities for shamans and APs,
Vonzamir,
09-Jan-14 02:08 PM, #8
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Some notes,
Torak,
09-Jan-14 04:59 PM, #20
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Polearm is there so you can defend from it. nt,
Artificial,
09-Jan-14 10:01 PM, #37
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) armor spell for rangers,
morocco,
09-Jan-14 12:13 PM, #4
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) PS: hunter precision at whatever level warriors get min...,
morocco,
09-Jan-14 03:39 PM, #17
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Dervish dance is ftw n/t,
Destuvius ,
09-Jan-14 04:50 PM, #19
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Seconded,
Torak,
09-Jan-14 05:03 PM, #21
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) i forgot dance, dance is great, but you give up snare (...,
morocco,
09-Jan-14 06:23 PM, #23
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: armor spell for rangers,
Daevryn,
10-Jan-14 10:31 PM, #67
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Makes sense to me. n/t,
Eskelian,
11-Jan-14 12:17 AM, #70
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) not all rangers get barkskin, but that's ok,
morocco,
11-Jan-14 05:47 AM, #72
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: For discussion: abilities that stop being good,
Mort,
09-Jan-14 11:25 AM, #2
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Assassin kicks,
Zephon,
09-Jan-14 11:25 AM, #1
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Assassin kicks,
Eskelian,
09-Jan-14 11:49 AM, #3
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Assassin kicks,
Daevryn,
09-Jan-14 08:02 PM, #36
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Assassin kicks,
Moligant,
10-Jan-14 11:13 AM, #47
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Assassin kicks,
Isildur,
11-Jan-14 09:24 AM, #74
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) FWIW, mule is epic. One round lag, feints, mega damage....,
Eskelian,
11-Jan-14 10:00 PM, #80
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) throw,
Malakhi,
09-Jan-14 06:38 PM, #24
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Fwiw, I would still use throw on a gnome.,
Zephon,
09-Jan-14 07:00 PM, #25
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: throw,
Daevryn,
09-Jan-14 07:27 PM, #30
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: throw,
Elerosse,
09-Jan-14 07:54 PM, #33
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: throw,
Illanthos,
09-Jan-14 07:57 PM, #34
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: throw,
Eskelian,
09-Jan-14 08:02 PM, #35
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) To play Devil's advocate...,
Sarien,
10-Jan-14 09:04 AM, #41
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: throw,
Marcus_,
15-Jan-14 10:18 AM, #92
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: throw,
Isildur,
11-Jan-14 09:26 AM, #75
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