Isildur | Fri 07-May-10 03:04 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#32501, "RE: Ahah! But the real question is"
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First a general response to your response:
1. I never said there weren't way to avoid these things. I just don't think most of the tactics and precautions you propose would fall under the heading of "reasonable".
2. Yes, there are race/class/cabal combos that are more resistant than others. My point mostly concerned classes that are vulnerable. As long as they exist its worth considering them.
>-This is freakin nasty, about all you can do is avoid the >woods or only go in ultra prepped.
"Never going into the wilderness" or "super-prepping every time I go into the wildnerness" doesn't seem very reasonable to me.
>-I have survived, and had people survive some absolutely >ridiculous crap involving necros.
Sure, so have I. I also had Satebos bleed me down to half-hp then one-shot me with a scroll.
>-Damage reduction, surprise said giant, better defenses, the >easiest approach being a shifter as something that's harder to >defend against for swords then abs up.
So your answer is "be a shifter". What if I'm not a shifter or some class with inherent dam reduction? Sure, given we're talking about a warrior, if the guy attacks you then its probably your fault. Either you started it or you should have seen him coming. But you can't always see the other guy coming. And, against the right class, this warrior has the near-equivalent of "slay".
>-This fits in with the ranger, its nasty. But you can just not >walk into the trap.
Bard can sleep/maledict/insect/fiend you anywhere outside a protected city. Is your solution "never leave a protected city"? He can't move while hidden, but he can stay hidden in an area and let you get near him, then run over and drop the sleep.
>-Go somewhere he can't fly into. Or be the camoed gangs bait.
Your solution is "spend your entire login someplace he can't fly to"? Or "don't play when he's online unless you have 2 friends to help you gang him"? (I would have just suggested "Never become a criminal." Except that's tough for Outlanders.)
>-Bleh, this one is probably the worst I can think of. Nothing >short of being a perm enlarged giant with certain pieces of >gear that you can't get and detect hidden would make me feel >truly comfortable about this sort of foe.
Well, permafly helps. Also inherent dam redux, high spell saves (hard to curse) and the ability to word out of combat (which anybody can acquire, btw, albeit at a slight cost). If you don't have permafly, then maybe the anti-knockout and anti-cheapshot edges.
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theorycraft
[View all] , Isildur, Thu 06-May-10 05:20 PM
RE: theorycraft,
Isildur,
07-May-10 12:13 AM, #16
Ahah! But the real question is,
Drag0nSt0rm,
07-May-10 01:50 PM, #20
RE: Ahah! But the real question is,
Dervish,
07-May-10 02:00 PM, #21
RE: Ahah! But the real question is,
Drag0nSt0rm,
07-May-10 02:02 PM, #22
RE: Ahah! But the real question is,
Dervish,
07-May-10 02:07 PM, #23
RE: Ahah! But the real question is,
Isildur,
07-May-10 03:30 PM, #25
HEY!,
Humbert,
09-May-10 04:02 AM, #36
RE: Ahah! But the real question is,
Isildur,
07-May-10 03:04 PM #24
RE: theorycraft,
Daevryn,
07-May-10 04:04 PM, #26
RE: theorycraft,
Isildur,
07-May-10 05:20 PM, #27
RE: theorycraft,
Daevryn,
07-May-10 06:48 PM, #28
Fluke huh?,
Marin,
07-May-10 07:23 PM, #29
RE: theorycraft,
Hutto,
07-May-10 11:17 PM, #30
RE: theorycraft,
Isildur,
08-May-10 12:00 AM, #31
RE: theorycraft,
Hutto,
08-May-10 12:39 AM, #32
RE: theorycraft,
TheDude,
08-May-10 12:08 PM, #35
hummingbird is ####! (n/t),
Zulghinlour,
06-May-10 10:41 PM, #9
Not since it stopped being a deathtrap in the air!,
TheLastMohican,
06-May-10 11:11 PM, #13
RE: theorycraft,
sleepy,
06-May-10 07:23 PM, #2
RE: theorycraft,
thendrell,
07-May-10 07:08 AM, #18
Edges:,
Rayihn,
06-May-10 07:21 PM, #1
Well, that's a tough question.,
TheLastMohican,
06-May-10 09:05 PM, #3
RE: Well, that's a tough question.,
Daevryn,
06-May-10 09:24 PM, #4
Well (short expansion on thought within)...,
TheLastMohican,
06-May-10 09:33 PM, #5
The AP edges,
Tsunami,
06-May-10 09:35 PM, #6
I always take evasive when I can.,
thendrell,
07-May-10 07:16 AM, #19
Quantitative vs. qualitative.,
Valguarnera,
08-May-10 07:28 AM, #33
Thanks for the info.,
thendrell,
08-May-10 08:10 AM, #34
RE: Edges:,
Splntrd,
06-May-10 10:34 PM, #7
RE: Edges:,
Dervish,
06-May-10 10:35 PM, #8
RE: Edges:,
Splntrd,
06-May-10 10:42 PM, #10
RE: Edges:,
Dervish,
06-May-10 10:46 PM, #11
RE: Edges:,
Splntrd,
06-May-10 10:51 PM, #12
RE: Edges:,
Isildur,
06-May-10 11:57 PM, #14
RE: Edges:,
Dervish,
07-May-10 12:08 AM, #15
I agree,
Astillian,
07-May-10 04:47 AM, #17
Edges that make good stuff too good...,
Larcat,
10-May-10 11:32 AM, #37
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