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IsildurMon 10-Aug-09 06:30 PM
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#28122, "RE: An answer..."
Edited on Mon 10-Aug-09 06:30 PM

          

As posted elsewhere...

I don't think I've died to a fiend in a long, long time. Barring situations where the bard had a friend with him, slept me, sung me up, then fiended and proceeded to gang me with his friend. Or possibly situations where I'm already wounded or otherwise messed up when the bard sings it.

Then again, I sort of view resist mental as a near-prereq when fighting a bard, just because it is SO good. You can use stoneskin against a warrior, but doing so doesn't semi-nerf almost all his relevant class skills. With bards it kind of does.

I will admit that orcs are somewhat screwed by having a fixed recall point and no healer. That, and forced wimpy flee. Same for rager giants. And, honestly, someone who isn't prepared and gets slept, even by a solo bard, could potentially die if he's not sufficiently buff (or loaded with gold for heal-healing).

Some questions about fiend, though, that I've always wondered about:

1. If you get fiended when you don't have resist mental up, does it buy you anything to flee from the fiend and put it up after the fact?

2. Does the courageous edge work to mitigate the strength of fiends you'll get when someone sings it at you?

3. Does the courageous edge reduce the likelihood that the fiend will make you flee while you're fighting it, thereby juicing itself?

4. Does having high morale mitigate the strength of fiends you'll get when someone sings it at you?

  

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HOT TopicDiscussion of the Mechanics of Frightful Fiend. [View all] , deBriguy, Mon 10-Aug-09 04:46 PM
Reply Having played ALOT of GIANTS and VILLAGERS...., Amberion, 12-Aug-09 06:13 PM, #49
Reply felar intelligence, bobbyp, 11-Aug-09 09:53 PM, #46
Reply Being in or recalling to the wilds negates the fiend me..., Scrimbul, 12-Aug-09 11:45 AM, #47
     Reply RE: Being in or recalling to the wilds negates the fien..., Isildur, 12-Aug-09 03:10 PM, #48
          Reply Yes, but., Scrimbul, 13-Aug-09 10:01 AM, #50
Reply Simple suggestion, Dorz, 11-Aug-09 11:36 AM, #31
Reply Mandatory prepping is rarely fun, but I doubt they will..., Nightgaunt_, 11-Aug-09 10:50 AM, #30
Reply RE: Discussion of the Mechanics of Frightful Fiend., Daevryn, 10-Aug-09 08:56 PM, #9
Reply I don't believe, Dwoggurd, 10-Aug-09 09:41 PM, #12
Reply RE: I don't believe, Daevryn, 10-Aug-09 10:32 PM, #16
Reply RE: I don't believe, Isildur, 10-Aug-09 11:06 PM, #21
Reply RE: I don't believe, Greddarh, 10-Aug-09 11:10 PM, #22
     Reply What makes you think I haven't? :), Daevryn, 10-Aug-09 11:25 PM, #23
Reply As Dolce with 13 int I had plenty of trouble with fiend..., TheProphet, 11-Aug-09 07:50 AM, #29
Reply RE: I don't believe, Exit, 21-Aug-09 10:04 PM, #54
     Reply Played bards and agree with him, incognito, 22-Aug-09 04:08 AM, #55
Reply The whole "I win" button discussion., Kadsuane, 19-Aug-09 10:55 AM, #53
Reply Frightful fiend is both opening and area attack, DurNominator, 10-Aug-09 08:51 PM, #7
Reply My take:, vargal, 10-Aug-09 05:04 PM, #3
Reply RE: My take:, Daevryn, 10-Aug-09 09:15 PM, #11
     Reply RE: My take:, Susubienko, 11-Aug-09 12:35 AM, #25
          Reply Why should ragers..., _Magus_, 11-Aug-09 02:17 PM, #33
               Reply RE: Why should ragers..., Lokain, 11-Aug-09 03:15 PM, #37
               Reply RE: Why should ragers..., Adhelard, 11-Aug-09 04:41 PM, #40
               Reply RE: Why should ragers..., Susubienko, 11-Aug-09 05:08 PM, #43
Reply An answer..., Twist, 10-Aug-09 04:56 PM, #1
     Reply Bah, that's a terribly rational answer., deBriguy, 10-Aug-09 05:02 PM, #2
     Reply Wazglarg survived fiends, incognito, 10-Aug-09 05:17 PM, #4
     Reply Side note:, Daevryn, 10-Aug-09 10:33 PM, #17
          Reply RE: Side note:, Isildur, 10-Aug-09 10:57 PM, #19
     Reply its certainly not balanced, laxman, 10-Aug-09 06:21 PM, #5
     Reply Those fights are winnable, but maybe not the way you th..., Daevryn, 10-Aug-09 09:12 PM, #10
          Reply About one log posted recently on an unfamous log board, Dwoggurd, 10-Aug-09 09:46 PM, #13
          Reply As much as people call OP on this, Guilo, 10-Aug-09 10:08 PM, #14
          Reply Re, Dwoggurd, 10-Aug-09 10:22 PM, #15
               Reply So if that's the case, Guilo, 10-Aug-09 10:53 PM, #18
                    Reply If flurry would work against a group of 5, Dwoggurd, 10-Aug-09 11:04 PM, #20
                    Reply I'd like to have the statistics., Guilo, 11-Aug-09 01:18 AM, #27
                    Reply This assumes bard is alone, incognito, 14-Aug-09 06:41 PM, #51
          Reply That just means to me the group wasn't ready, dwimmerling, 11-Aug-09 12:33 AM, #24
          Reply Actually, no., Susubienko, 11-Aug-09 12:41 AM, #26
               Reply Maybe, Dwoggurd, 11-Aug-09 03:39 AM, #28
                    Reply Do you work hard to be this stupid sometimes?, Susubienko, 11-Aug-09 02:06 PM, #32
                         Reply RE: Do you work hard to be this stupid sometimes?, Isildur, 11-Aug-09 02:34 PM, #34
                         Reply RE: Do you work hard to be this stupid sometimes?, Susubienko, 11-Aug-09 05:02 PM, #42
                              Reply RE: Do you work hard to be this stupid sometimes?, Isildur, 11-Aug-09 07:18 PM, #44
                              Reply Honestly, I don't agree here, incognito, 14-Aug-09 06:45 PM, #52
                         Reply Do you realize, Dwoggurd, 11-Aug-09 02:39 PM, #35
                              Reply RE: Do you realize, Daevryn, 11-Aug-09 02:51 PM, #36
                                   Reply Heh, Dwoggurd, 11-Aug-09 03:32 PM, #39
          Reply like I said, prepped to the ####, laxman, 11-Aug-09 07:35 PM, #45
     Reply RE: An answer..., Isildur, 10-Aug-09 06:30 PM #6
          Reply RE: An answer..., Daevryn, 10-Aug-09 08:51 PM, #8
               Reply Got me thinking, Lokain, 11-Aug-09 03:23 PM, #38
                    Reply Flaws are flaws., vargal, 11-Aug-09 04:55 PM, #41
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