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GuiloMon 10-Aug-09 10:53 PM
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#28106, "So if that's the case"


          

Why try and change bards if you claim they are support classes and can't seal kills well? That sure doesn't sound like I'm going to be scared of one.

Fiend gets hyped because usually only the strongest ones get posted making it look phenomenal when in hindsight, it doesn't really get as many kills as it seems, hence the top 10 bards pk records.

And everyone is silly and usually uses fiends to open combat nearly all the time. Granted in that log it was the right choice, but I don't think I've ever died to a bard that opened with fiend, including giants. Then... if you're fighting a bard and gushing and he flees to try and seal it with fiend. I find it nearly impossible that you can't get away from him one on one. Run the opposite direction, quaff, anything other but try and chase him, that's just untactful.

There's so many things that would need changed over fiend, if anything really at all. Ap's lashes are just.. well.. brutal, even without that many charges. Flurries on average bust out more damage than any average fiend. Strong hunts are just plain terrifying, I'd SO rather fight a fiend than the hunt. Point is.. when any skill in the game is the strongest it can possibly be, so many other things are just as deathful if not more and at least you can prep for the fiend in a greater way than any of the others aside from dam redux, and that still works for nightmares.

  

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HOT TopicDiscussion of the Mechanics of Frightful Fiend. [View all] , deBriguy, Mon 10-Aug-09 04:46 PM
Reply Having played ALOT of GIANTS and VILLAGERS...., Amberion, 12-Aug-09 06:13 PM, #49
Reply felar intelligence, bobbyp, 11-Aug-09 09:53 PM, #46
Reply Being in or recalling to the wilds negates the fiend me..., Scrimbul, 12-Aug-09 11:45 AM, #47
     Reply RE: Being in or recalling to the wilds negates the fien..., Isildur, 12-Aug-09 03:10 PM, #48
          Reply Yes, but., Scrimbul, 13-Aug-09 10:01 AM, #50
Reply Simple suggestion, Dorz, 11-Aug-09 11:36 AM, #31
Reply Mandatory prepping is rarely fun, but I doubt they will..., Nightgaunt_, 11-Aug-09 10:50 AM, #30
Reply RE: Discussion of the Mechanics of Frightful Fiend., Daevryn, 10-Aug-09 08:56 PM, #9
Reply I don't believe, Dwoggurd, 10-Aug-09 09:41 PM, #12
Reply RE: I don't believe, Daevryn, 10-Aug-09 10:32 PM, #16
Reply RE: I don't believe, Isildur, 10-Aug-09 11:06 PM, #21
Reply RE: I don't believe, Greddarh, 10-Aug-09 11:10 PM, #22
     Reply What makes you think I haven't? :), Daevryn, 10-Aug-09 11:25 PM, #23
Reply As Dolce with 13 int I had plenty of trouble with fiend..., TheProphet, 11-Aug-09 07:50 AM, #29
Reply RE: I don't believe, Exit, 21-Aug-09 10:04 PM, #54
     Reply Played bards and agree with him, incognito, 22-Aug-09 04:08 AM, #55
Reply The whole "I win" button discussion., Kadsuane, 19-Aug-09 10:55 AM, #53
Reply Frightful fiend is both opening and area attack, DurNominator, 10-Aug-09 08:51 PM, #7
Reply My take:, vargal, 10-Aug-09 05:04 PM, #3
Reply RE: My take:, Daevryn, 10-Aug-09 09:15 PM, #11
     Reply RE: My take:, Susubienko, 11-Aug-09 12:35 AM, #25
          Reply Why should ragers..., _Magus_, 11-Aug-09 02:17 PM, #33
               Reply RE: Why should ragers..., Lokain, 11-Aug-09 03:15 PM, #37
               Reply RE: Why should ragers..., Adhelard, 11-Aug-09 04:41 PM, #40
               Reply RE: Why should ragers..., Susubienko, 11-Aug-09 05:08 PM, #43
Reply An answer..., Twist, 10-Aug-09 04:56 PM, #1
     Reply Bah, that's a terribly rational answer., deBriguy, 10-Aug-09 05:02 PM, #2
     Reply Wazglarg survived fiends, incognito, 10-Aug-09 05:17 PM, #4
     Reply Side note:, Daevryn, 10-Aug-09 10:33 PM, #17
          Reply RE: Side note:, Isildur, 10-Aug-09 10:57 PM, #19
     Reply its certainly not balanced, laxman, 10-Aug-09 06:21 PM, #5
     Reply Those fights are winnable, but maybe not the way you th..., Daevryn, 10-Aug-09 09:12 PM, #10
          Reply About one log posted recently on an unfamous log board, Dwoggurd, 10-Aug-09 09:46 PM, #13
          Reply As much as people call OP on this, Guilo, 10-Aug-09 10:08 PM, #14
          Reply Re, Dwoggurd, 10-Aug-09 10:22 PM, #15
               Reply So if that's the case, Guilo, 10-Aug-09 10:53 PM #18
                    Reply If flurry would work against a group of 5, Dwoggurd, 10-Aug-09 11:04 PM, #20
                    Reply I'd like to have the statistics., Guilo, 11-Aug-09 01:18 AM, #27
                    Reply This assumes bard is alone, incognito, 14-Aug-09 06:41 PM, #51
          Reply That just means to me the group wasn't ready, dwimmerling, 11-Aug-09 12:33 AM, #24
          Reply Actually, no., Susubienko, 11-Aug-09 12:41 AM, #26
               Reply Maybe, Dwoggurd, 11-Aug-09 03:39 AM, #28
                    Reply Do you work hard to be this stupid sometimes?, Susubienko, 11-Aug-09 02:06 PM, #32
                         Reply RE: Do you work hard to be this stupid sometimes?, Isildur, 11-Aug-09 02:34 PM, #34
                         Reply RE: Do you work hard to be this stupid sometimes?, Susubienko, 11-Aug-09 05:02 PM, #42
                              Reply RE: Do you work hard to be this stupid sometimes?, Isildur, 11-Aug-09 07:18 PM, #44
                              Reply Honestly, I don't agree here, incognito, 14-Aug-09 06:45 PM, #52
                         Reply Do you realize, Dwoggurd, 11-Aug-09 02:39 PM, #35
                              Reply RE: Do you realize, Daevryn, 11-Aug-09 02:51 PM, #36
                                   Reply Heh, Dwoggurd, 11-Aug-09 03:32 PM, #39
          Reply like I said, prepped to the ####, laxman, 11-Aug-09 07:35 PM, #45
     Reply RE: An answer..., Isildur, 10-Aug-09 06:30 PM, #6
          Reply RE: An answer..., Daevryn, 10-Aug-09 08:51 PM, #8
               Reply Got me thinking, Lokain, 11-Aug-09 03:23 PM, #38
                    Reply Flaws are flaws., vargal, 11-Aug-09 04:55 PM, #41
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