Daevryn | Wed 10-Jun-09 12:34 AM |
Member since 13th Feb 2007
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#25105, "RE: Tell me."
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>Huh. Well that's interesting. Do they just have lower >limits? I don't understand why people would preferentially >farm the harder-to-get wands.
Well, it's two things.
I think the harder to get ones, for whatever reason, are better known.
The harder to get ones also tend to be higher level and thus last a little longer too.
>There's some truth to that because ultimately it does boil >down to a black and white statement. Either mages need more >access to abs or they don't. My point in simplifying isn't to >create a strawman out of an extreme version of your position, >but I really do have the impression that you believe that abs >is unnecessary most of the time. If that's not so, then I >appologise for mischaracterising your position, but it's not >really feasible to write a 12-page dissertation on the staff >position on abs (as I interpret it, obviously). Sometimes a >summary is needed and "mages don't need abs to be successful >in pk" is my understanding of your general position, broadly >speaking and with the knowledge that there are some provisos >and caveats.
I'd say my position is that mages, in general, don't need (and probably should struggle/sacrifice to have) full A/B/S on top of their cabal/class abilities and easier-to-manage preps for every fight. Probably, they need or should want some of it for a lot of fights.
If you're thinking, "No one would take the extreme position that you need the full wack of everything and the kitchen sink for most fights", I probably can provide a lot of counter-examples with just the last month of forums.
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The New Wand Locations
[View all] , Guilo, Tue 09-Jun-09 09:29 AM
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Hold up....a sleek black rod in an area explore area?,
Habbs,
09-Jun-09 01:57 PM, #12
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Mages aren't for you,
Valkenar,
09-Jun-09 04:36 PM, #15
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Two of mine were in area explore actually.,
Guilo,
10-Jun-09 09:43 AM, #34
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Two of mine were in area explore actually.,
Daevryn,
10-Jun-09 10:33 AM, #37
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I think he is probably just being honest, and pragmatic...,
Larcat,
10-Jun-09 11:00 AM, #38
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Well, you have made getting sleek wands exponentially h...,
TMNS,
10-Jun-09 11:03 AM, #39
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) A question then,
Rayihn,
10-Jun-09 12:55 PM, #41
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Less spots to check.,
Tac,
10-Jun-09 01:16 PM, #42
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Yeah,
Rayihn,
10-Jun-09 02:08 PM, #44
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Yeah,
Tac,
10-Jun-09 03:13 PM, #48
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Answer,
Abernyte,
11-Jun-09 04:31 AM, #68
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Because you've (the IMMstaff) completely changed the dy...,
TMNS,
10-Jun-09 02:05 PM, #43
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Because you've (the IMMstaff) completely changed th...,
Rayihn,
10-Jun-09 02:12 PM, #45
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Adding to a players daily tedium txt,
Larcat,
10-Jun-09 02:30 PM, #46
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Cosign. Its just tedious and boring now.,
Dervish,
10-Jun-09 03:29 PM, #49
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Because you've (the IMMstaff) completely changed th...,
Not An Imm,
10-Jun-09 05:04 PM, #50
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Kids hunt for easter eggs,
Mekantos,
10-Jun-09 05:19 PM, #51
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) DRRRRRRRRRRAMA. (n/t),
Daevryn,
10-Jun-09 05:30 PM, #52
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Ah, screw it.,
Daevryn,
10-Jun-09 05:34 PM, #53
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) It's not so bad,
Valkenar,
10-Jun-09 05:56 PM, #54
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) DRRRRRRRRRRAMA.,
Dallevian,
10-Jun-09 06:00 PM, #55
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I don't see how I'm in category #3?,
TMNS,
10-Jun-09 08:13 PM, #58
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) It's just a muddle.,
Adhelard,
10-Jun-09 08:38 PM, #61
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Short response:,
Daevryn,
10-Jun-09 09:31 PM, #65
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Ah gotcha. I fall into the same 'trap' from time to ti...,
TMNS,
10-Jun-09 09:39 PM, #66
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Ah, screw it.,
Eskelian,
10-Jun-09 08:34 PM, #60
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) The contest is there for a reason,
Zulghinlour,
10-Jun-09 08:53 PM, #62
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: The contest is there for a reason,
Turing,
10-Jun-09 09:01 PM, #63
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Big Ups to Zulgh here txt,
Larcat,
10-Jun-09 09:26 PM, #64
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: The contest is there for a reason,
Zulghinlour,
10-Jun-09 09:45 PM, #67
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: The contest is there for a reason,
Jhishesh,
13-Jun-09 02:26 PM, #70
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: The contest is there for a reason,
Eskelian,
13-Jun-09 10:34 AM, #69
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) When you piss people off enough,
Mekantos,
10-Jun-09 07:17 PM, #56
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) One thing, there is hardly any warriors in the Fort.,
TMNS,
10-Jun-09 08:07 PM, #57
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I kinda get the gist of what you are saying here...,
TMNS,
10-Jun-09 08:16 PM, #59
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) The old spots were also plausible.. read please.,
Guilo,
10-Jun-09 02:38 PM, #47
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Mages aren't supposed to be like melee,
Valkenar,
09-Jun-09 12:34 PM, #9
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Ok, but.,
Dallevian,
09-Jun-09 12:37 PM, #11
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) That's just how it is.,
Valkenar,
09-Jun-09 04:32 PM, #14
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Tell me.,
Dallevian,
09-Jun-09 04:59 PM, #16
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Tell me.,
Daevryn,
09-Jun-09 05:17 PM, #17
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Probably,
Dwoggurd,
09-Jun-09 05:35 PM, #18
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Probably,
Daevryn,
09-Jun-09 06:15 PM, #21
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Well,
Dwoggurd,
09-Jun-09 06:29 PM, #22
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Probably,
Isildur,
09-Jun-09 11:52 PM, #27
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Probably,
Daevryn,
10-Jun-09 12:38 AM, #29
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) But,
Dwoggurd,
10-Jun-09 07:35 AM, #31
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: But,
Daevryn,
10-Jun-09 11:10 AM, #40
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) And?,
Dwoggurd,
10-Jun-09 07:27 AM, #30
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: And?,
Isildur,
10-Jun-09 09:09 AM, #32
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) That's because.,
Dallevian,
10-Jun-09 10:27 AM, #35
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: That's because.,
Daevryn,
10-Jun-09 10:33 AM, #36
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Tell me.,
Valkenar,
09-Jun-09 05:40 PM, #19
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Tell me.,
Daevryn,
09-Jun-09 06:10 PM, #20
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Re,
Dwoggurd,
09-Jun-09 06:33 PM, #23
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Tell me.,
Valkenar,
09-Jun-09 06:57 PM, #24
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Tell me.,
Daevryn,
09-Jun-09 09:43 PM, #25
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Tell me.,
Valkenar,
09-Jun-09 11:51 PM, #26
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Tell me.,
Daevryn,
10-Jun-09 12:34 AM #28
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Tell me.,
Valkenar,
10-Jun-09 09:32 AM, #33
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Yeah cause a svirf warrior can't do that,
Guilo,
09-Jun-09 03:45 PM, #13
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: The New Wand Locations,
Daevryn,
09-Jun-09 09:34 AM, #1
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) This, to me at least, begs the question....,
Tac,
09-Jun-09 09:58 AM, #2
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) So why not make it a bit easier?,
Guilo,
09-Jun-09 10:04 AM, #3
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) But that blows.,
Dallevian,
09-Jun-09 10:21 AM, #4
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I really think some overhaul change is needed.,
Guilo,
09-Jun-09 10:49 AM, #5
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) There was just a giant discussion about this,
Daevryn,
09-Jun-09 10:57 AM, #6
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) You beat me to that...,
Dragomir,
09-Jun-09 11:00 AM, #7
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Yeah but there was no solution,
Guilo,
09-Jun-09 12:13 PM, #8
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Like I just posted above, I agree,
Dallevian,
09-Jun-09 12:34 PM, #10
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