Daevryn | Sun 25-Nov-07 09:10 PM |
Member since 13th Feb 2007
11117 posts
| |
|
#19760, "Cabals"
|
Random topic for discussion...
I think cabals are one of the best parts of the game, and one of the things that really draw new players in. They're also one of our big differentiators from most other games, ignoring for the moment other MUDs inspired by CF -- sure, you've got clans in every MMO in the world, but how many of them have a special purpose and unique powers that no one else has? I'm not sure that I would still be playing CF today if my very first character hadn't been caballed at level 15.
Over the years there's been a trend to push cabals more and more to being a high level thing, which I consider a mistake.
So:
1) How can we make cabals more accessable to new players, without diluting their nature or reducing the appeal of being caballed? For example, if we let everyone pick their cabal and instantly join in the academy, cabals would be a ton more accessable, but I'm not sure that'd be worth the price.
2) How can we create more value to lower level members in cabals? The olllld raiding system did a great job of this, even if the new raiding system is far superior in every other way.
|
|
|
Cabals
[View all] , Daevryn, Sun 25-Nov-07 09:10 PM
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Cabals,
Eskelian,
03-Dec-07 02:49 AM, #100
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) My thoughts...,
trewyn,
27-Nov-07 11:03 PM, #72
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I agree that getting inducted should not be time consum...,
elmeri_,
28-Nov-07 09:33 AM, #77
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Cabals,
Doge,
27-Nov-07 12:31 PM, #60
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Changes to cabal raiding I would like to see,
elmeri_,
27-Nov-07 06:54 AM, #56
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Continued,
elmeri_,
27-Nov-07 10:06 AM, #59
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I think this might have some merit, and is certainly ea...,
Quixotic,
27-Nov-07 01:14 PM, #62
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Continued,
_Magus_,
27-Nov-07 02:58 PM, #63
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Continued,
Tac,
27-Nov-07 03:52 PM, #64
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Continued,
Daevryn,
27-Nov-07 04:13 PM, #66
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) That's just the thing.,
elmeri_,
27-Nov-07 05:06 PM, #67
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: That's just the thing.,
Daevryn,
27-Nov-07 05:14 PM, #68
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I'm not talking about scaled effects though,
elmeri_,
27-Nov-07 07:09 PM, #69
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) It's just... too complicated.,
Terwin05,
27-Nov-07 08:39 PM, #70
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Well, just ditch whatever I said about raiding empty ca...,
elmeri_,
28-Nov-07 03:54 AM, #76
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Show me your log of you solo'ing the Scion Archmage ple...,
trewyn,
27-Nov-07 10:52 PM, #71
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I was able to solo the Archmage rather easily...,
_Magus_,
28-Nov-07 03:02 AM, #74
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I've got to ask then....,
Tac,
28-Nov-07 09:47 AM, #78
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: I've got to ask then....,
Daevryn,
28-Nov-07 10:20 AM, #79
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: I've got to ask then....,
Tac,
28-Nov-07 10:53 AM, #80
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: I've got to ask then....,
Daevryn,
28-Nov-07 02:01 PM, #87
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: I've got to ask then....,
Tac,
28-Nov-07 02:49 PM, #91
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: I've got to ask then....,
Daevryn,
28-Nov-07 03:35 PM, #96
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Not to get off on too much of a tangent,
_Magus_,
28-Nov-07 02:20 PM, #88
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Not to get off on too much of a tangent,
Daevryn,
28-Nov-07 02:22 PM, #89
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Builds that will destroy inners.,
elmeri_,
28-Nov-07 02:49 PM, #90
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Ok, help. What am I missing?,
Adhelard,
28-Nov-07 12:50 PM, #81
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) try a ranger if you want real humility in raiding,
Trouble,
28-Nov-07 01:13 PM, #82
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: try a ranger if you want real humility in raiding,
Daevryn,
28-Nov-07 01:21 PM, #84
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: try a ranger if you want real humility in raiding,
Adhelard,
28-Nov-07 03:05 PM, #93
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: try a ranger if you want real humility in raiding,
Daevryn,
28-Nov-07 03:26 PM, #95
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Ok, help. What am I missing?,
Daevryn,
28-Nov-07 01:18 PM, #83
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Ok, help. What am I missing?,
Adhelard,
28-Nov-07 03:03 PM, #92
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Ok, help. What am I missing?,
Daevryn,
28-Nov-07 03:23 PM, #94
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Ok, thanks.,
Adhelard,
29-Nov-07 06:23 PM, #98
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Continued,
TJHuron,
30-Nov-07 12:55 AM, #99
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) They would not be able to slay it at will,
elmeri_,
27-Nov-07 04:06 PM, #65
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Generalizing the problem,
Terwin05,
26-Nov-07 02:09 PM, #42
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Generalizing the problem,
Dervish,
26-Nov-07 02:16 PM, #45
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Outposts,
DurNominator,
26-Nov-07 03:58 PM, #49
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I like Magus and Boon's combined Ideas.,
Dragomir,
26-Nov-07 01:45 PM, #38
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: I like Magus and Boon's combined Ideas.,
_Magus_,
26-Nov-07 02:04 PM, #41
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Cabals,
Twist ,
26-Nov-07 11:21 AM, #22
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Another cause is pb caution,
Theerkla,
26-Nov-07 11:31 AM, #23
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Another cause is pb caution,
Daevryn,
26-Nov-07 11:40 AM, #24
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Another cause is pb caution,
Torak,
26-Nov-07 01:05 PM, #30
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Cabals,
Daevryn,
26-Nov-07 12:01 PM, #25
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Well there you go...,
Tac,
26-Nov-07 12:31 PM, #26
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Well there you go...,
Daevryn,
26-Nov-07 12:41 PM, #27
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) You aren't the only one...,
Tac,
26-Nov-07 12:57 PM, #28
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: You aren't the only one...,
Daevryn,
26-Nov-07 01:12 PM, #33
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Almost been there, done that..,
Trouble,
26-Nov-07 01:04 PM, #31
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Almost been there, done that..,
Daevryn,
26-Nov-07 01:10 PM, #32
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Hmm, wonder where I got that from.,
Trouble,
26-Nov-07 01:30 PM, #35
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Hmm, wonder where I got that from.,
Daevryn,
26-Nov-07 01:43 PM, #37
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Heh, you missed the important part...,
Tac,
26-Nov-07 02:11 PM, #44
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) How about more rewarding in general? -nt-,
Mekantos,
26-Nov-07 04:08 PM, #51
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I think there's been less rewarding since the installme...,
_Magus_,
28-Nov-07 03:35 AM, #75
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Nope!!,
trewyn,
27-Nov-07 11:36 PM, #73
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Dont do it please and here is why,
Dervish,
26-Nov-07 01:01 PM, #29
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Glass Houses + Brick = goofy idea on retrieval,
UncleArzzra,
26-Nov-07 01:52 PM, #39
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Cabals,
Kalageadon,
28-Nov-07 05:15 PM, #97
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Cabals,
Chalupah,
12-Dec-07 04:16 PM, #102
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Cabals,
incognito,
26-Nov-07 03:48 AM, #15
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I concur,
ORB,
26-Nov-07 04:42 AM, #16
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I may be mistaken but,
Dervish,
26-Nov-07 05:21 AM, #17
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I'm talking most people in the cabal by lvl 15. not an ...,
ORB,
27-Nov-07 08:31 AM, #57
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Getting back to the good ole' days:,
_Magus_,
26-Nov-07 08:17 PM, #55
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Eh:,
Daevryn,
26-Nov-07 08:58 AM, #19
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Eh:,
Dervish,
26-Nov-07 09:38 AM, #20
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) The Five Magics,
Twist ,
26-Nov-07 11:00 AM, #21
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Nice story...,
Dervish,
26-Nov-07 01:13 PM, #34
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Nice story...,
Twist ,
26-Nov-07 03:38 PM, #48
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) The *real* Five Magics,
Trouble,
26-Nov-07 01:42 PM, #36
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) You were in charge of both...,
Twist ,
26-Nov-07 03:34 PM, #47
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Only if you use the phrase 'in charge' loosely.,
Trouble,
28-Nov-07 01:40 PM, #85
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Poofin...,
Twist ,
28-Nov-07 01:46 PM, #86
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Eh:,
incognito,
26-Nov-07 02:38 PM, #46
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Some ideas for you,
Mekantos,
26-Nov-07 01:39 AM, #13
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Is there any love for this idea? If yes, I will build o...,
Mekantos,
26-Nov-07 04:03 PM, #50
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I don't speak for everyone, but...,
Twist ,
27-Nov-07 09:06 AM, #58
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Suggestions,
Torak,
25-Nov-07 11:24 PM, #9
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) a few points and ideas,
Quixotic,
25-Nov-07 10:43 PM, #6
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: a few points and ideas,
Daevryn,
25-Nov-07 10:55 PM, #7
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) True.,
Quixotic,
25-Nov-07 11:05 PM, #8
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Two answers:,
UncleArzzra,
25-Nov-07 10:25 PM, #4
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Re: Cabal Reputation,
_Magus_,
25-Nov-07 10:32 PM, #5
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Cabals,
_Magus_,
25-Nov-07 09:52 PM, #1
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Cabals,
Boon,
25-Nov-07 10:32 PM, #2
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Cool. Thanks for expounding on the idea. ~,
_Magus_,
25-Nov-07 10:16 PM, #3
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Your idea deserves merit at the least.,
Derexal,
25-Nov-07 11:26 PM, #10
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Your idea deserves merit at the least.,
_Magus_,
26-Nov-07 02:09 PM, #43
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Cabals,
silencedstatik,
26-Nov-07 12:37 AM, #11
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Skill ideas?,
_Magus_,
26-Nov-07 01:01 AM, #12
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I dont like it.,
Dervish,
26-Nov-07 03:31 AM, #14
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: I dont like it.,
Daevryn,
26-Nov-07 08:56 AM, #18
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: I dont like it.,
Amaranthe ,
27-Nov-07 12:32 PM, #61
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: I dont like it.,
Lyristeon ,
26-Nov-07 04:26 PM, #52
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Hey, said "A" say "B"?,
Dervish,
26-Nov-07 04:57 PM, #53
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Unique bonuses,
_Magus_,
26-Nov-07 08:12 PM, #54
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) An added thought:,
_Magus_,
26-Nov-07 01:59 PM, #40
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I don't like this...,
Eskelian,
03-Dec-07 03:03 AM, #101
| |
|