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ValkenarFri 22-Jun-07 10:31 AM
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#18156, "Yup. Tedium is so 1994."


          

A good part of the reason I don't play frequently more than I do is because I'm not interested in spending a huge amount of time (like 50 hours) searching for wands with every character. There are a lot of fun video games that don't require that kind of tedium.

I think this is the reality of online multiplayer gaming these days, and CF needs to adapt or just accept that gamers have matured (and new gamers are coming in with a different mindset) and almost nobody finds it fun to hunt and hunt for things anymore. Every game that has items in locations, has a host of sites dedicated to people sharing that information, because 99% of people just don't enjoy searching for very much.

Also, because CF has permanent character death, there needs to be a minimum of tedious tasks repeated every character. MMORGS get away with an awful lot of boring grinding, because people can do it once and then put it behind them. CF has way less grinding, but what there is has to be repeated for every character.

Skill practice is quite an old horse, but it is an area where a (relatively small) amount of tedium is pretty necesary for many classes. but I think it would be to swap the use-based improvement system to a purely level-based system. e.g. you gain an int/wis-based increase in skill % every level. Imm rewards would still have an effect, as would quests. Frankly, the only thing the use-based system does is reward people who are willing to do a bunch of tedium. I suppose it also benefits the few rare people who know where the holes in the system are so they can max their skills easily even on low-int races.

Level-grinding is mostly okay, though I don't think experience-loss (via mob or WANTED) adds anything to the game. There are other ways to penalize these things without resorting to increasing tedium.

  

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HOT TopicDoes the current wand system encourage more cheating? [View all] , jasmin, Thu 21-Jun-07 12:36 PM
Reply RE: Does the current wand system encourage more cheatin..., Rade, 02-Aug-07 11:34 AM, #71
Reply No, for I don't bother to make a list of wands that mig..., DurNominator, 27-Jun-07 11:39 PM, #36
Reply RE: Does the current wand system encourage more cheatin..., Doge, 22-Jun-07 11:15 AM, #11
Reply RE: Does the current wand system encourage more cheatin..., Gabe, 22-Jun-07 08:12 PM, #20
     Reply Heh, in the last RS incarnation, Tac, 25-Jun-07 08:26 AM, #29
          Reply I'm not sure what the point is, but this is a lie. nt, Nightshade, 25-Jun-07 10:32 AM, #30
Reply RE: Does the current wand system encourage more cheatin..., Zulghinlour, 21-Jun-07 01:09 PM, #1
     Reply A little spoon for the newbies, Mekantos, 21-Jun-07 02:07 PM, #2
     Reply Sleeks have been an endless source of frustration, astaroth, 22-Jun-07 02:04 AM, #3
     Reply I hear you, Torak, 22-Jun-07 05:37 PM, #17
     Reply RE: I hear you, incognito, 24-Jun-07 03:48 PM, #24
     Reply RE: I hear you, Torak, 24-Jun-07 10:35 PM, #28
     Reply RE: I hear you, Isildur, 24-Jun-07 04:51 PM, #26
          Reply RE: I hear you, Torak, 24-Jun-07 10:33 PM, #27
          Reply RE: I hear you, Thrakburzug, 26-Jun-07 12:53 PM, #32
          Reply RE: I hear you, Torak, 27-Jun-07 10:31 PM, #34
               Reply Your posts are almost not worth reading., vargal, 27-Jun-07 11:16 PM, #35
                    Reply RE: Your posts are almost not worth reading., Gromkonk, 28-Jun-07 05:18 AM, #40
          Reply As Enarn's #1 Lackey..., Aodh, 26-Jun-07 06:55 PM, #33
          Reply Khar, Kastellyn, 29-Jun-07 12:23 PM, #56
          Reply RE: I hear you, Karel, 04-Jul-07 01:32 AM, #69
     Reply RE: Sleeks have been an endless source of frustration, incognito, 24-Jun-07 03:49 PM, #25
     Reply RE: Sleeks have been an endless source of frustration, Eskelian, 28-Jun-07 12:20 AM, #37
     Reply RE: A little spoon for the newbies, Rade, 29-Jul-07 03:55 PM, #70
     Reply and here it is., Odrirg, 22-Jun-07 07:35 AM, #4
     Reply I couldn't have said it better myself. nt, Vladamir, 22-Jun-07 07:42 AM, #5
     Reply Sleek Wand Finding, Twist, 22-Jun-07 08:36 AM, #7
     Reply Nepenthe-ism must be contagious. ~, _Magus_, 22-Jun-07 06:09 PM, #19
     Reply Yup. Tedium is so 1994., Valkenar, 22-Jun-07 10:31 AM #8
     Reply RE: Yup. Tedium is so 1994., Isildur, 22-Jun-07 02:34 PM, #14
          Reply I don't have to play mages, Valkenar, 22-Jun-07 04:04 PM, #16
     Reply RE: and here it is., Zulghinlour, 22-Jun-07 02:12 PM, #13
          Reply Quick question, _Magus_, 23-Jun-07 07:15 PM, #22
          Reply RE: Quick question, Zulghinlour, 23-Jun-07 11:00 PM, #23
          Reply RE: and here it is., Sandello, 25-Jun-07 03:09 PM, #31
     Reply What I don't like., Vladamir, 22-Jun-07 07:52 AM, #6
          Reply A few points/opinions, Gromkonk, 22-Jun-07 10:40 AM, #9
               Reply RE: A few points/opinions, Kastellyn, 22-Jun-07 11:07 AM, #10
               Reply An idea, Valkenar, 22-Jun-07 12:16 PM, #12
                    Reply RE: An idea, Isildur, 22-Jun-07 02:37 PM, #15
                         Reply Yeah!, Gromkonk, 22-Jun-07 05:41 PM, #18
                              Reply I like these ideas a lot., Vladamir, 23-Jun-07 11:44 AM, #21
                                   Reply RE: I like these ideas a lot., Eskelian, 28-Jun-07 12:29 AM, #38
                                        Reply Eh., Daevryn, 28-Jun-07 12:50 AM, #39
                                             Reply So which is this?, Valkenar, 28-Jun-07 10:38 AM, #41
                                                  Reply You don't get it., vargal, 28-Jun-07 11:47 AM, #42
                                                  Reply RE: You don't get it., Eskelian, 28-Jun-07 02:44 PM, #44
                                                       Reply Kharia had one aura wand that I knew of..., Twist, 28-Jun-07 03:48 PM, #47
                                                            Reply No offense (+vargal response), Valkenar, 28-Jun-07 04:26 PM, #49
                                                            Reply RE: Kharia had one aura wand that I knew of..., Eskelian, 29-Jun-07 10:33 AM, #52
                                                                 Reply Keep in mind that 2/1 wasn't a ratio..., Twist, 29-Jun-07 11:37 AM, #53
                                                                 Reply RE: Keep in mind that 2/1 wasn't a ratio..., Eskelian, 29-Jun-07 01:21 PM, #59
                                                                 Reply RE: Kharia had one aura wand that I knew of..., Adhelard, 29-Jun-07 12:10 PM, #55
                                                                      Reply Fine, replace Hunsobo with "Any Village Berserker". n/..., Eskelian, 29-Jun-07 01:15 PM, #58
                                                                      Reply Well, I disagree, Valkenar, 29-Jun-07 03:54 PM, #60
                                                                           Reply RE: Well, I disagree, Daevryn, 29-Jun-07 04:32 PM, #61
                                                                                Reply RE: Well, I disagree, Eskelian, 29-Jun-07 04:42 PM, #62
                                                                                     Reply RE: Well, I disagree, Daevryn, 29-Jun-07 07:32 PM, #63
                                                                                     Reply RE: Well, I disagree, Torak, 29-Jun-07 09:26 PM, #64
                                                                                     Reply RE: Well, I disagree, Daevryn, 29-Jun-07 10:55 PM, #65
                                                                                     Reply But, there I'm already getting off the point..., Daevryn, 29-Jun-07 10:59 PM, #66
                                                                                     Reply That's true, Valkenar, 30-Jun-07 12:55 PM, #67
                                                                                     Reply RE: Well, I disagree, Eskelian, 02-Jul-07 12:06 PM, #68
                                                  Reply RE: So which is this?, Daevryn, 28-Jun-07 02:41 PM, #43
                                                       Reply RE: So which is this?, Eskelian, 28-Jun-07 02:51 PM, #45
                                                       Reply RE: So which is this?, Daevryn, 28-Jun-07 03:07 PM, #46
                                                            Reply RE: So which is this?, Eskelian, 29-Jun-07 10:22 AM, #51
                                                                 Reply I endorse this post. n/t, Sandello, 29-Jun-07 12:02 PM, #54
                                                       Reply Some feeback, Valkenar, 28-Jun-07 04:11 PM, #48
                                                       Reply oops, Valkenar, 28-Jun-07 10:37 PM, #50
                                                       Reply Suggestion for an addition to the current system., Sandello, 29-Jun-07 12:42 PM, #57
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