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TacTue 27-Feb-07 01:38 PM
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#16741, "RE: Elf vs Storm pally"


          

>>I'd honestly take an elf paladin over a storm paladin
>>nowadays anyway, as would most other people (judging by the
>>number of hero's of both without stats just impressions).
>>Doesn't this make elf paladin that much better than storm
>>paladin which already wasn't super?
>
>Why do you think an elf is hands down better than a storm
>giant? I would say that a 2h storm and shield elf are
>comaprable --meaning that it depends on the dedication.

Actually I think 2h elf is better than 2h storm, and that shield elf vs shield storm aren't even close. Shield elf gets better use out of healing/wrath due to higher mana and (I think) a wisdom/int based bonus to wrath and heal. Storm shield has giant resist. Shield deds aren't exactly bash meat, so an elf shield isn't going down to bash in the ways that say dark elf a-p does vs fire a-p. Giant resist isn't as big a deal when you get a lot of inherent (class) dam redux, so you're left with what as a storm giant advantage?

2h storm vs 2h elf is a closer race, but I came to the conclusion (based on my experiences) that elf with outtank storm. Mana is always a problem for pally's, so elf gets the edge there again. Being bash meat is a bigger problem for 2-handers (at least the un-virtued ones) but being a storm giant isn't going to help you land kills vs a storm, so I'd still take the better mana + wrath bonus + regen over higher strength (less likely to lose weapon until you get a no-remove) and the bash protection of a storm giant. Mostly because I'm comparing top end elf vs top end storm, so they've got the virtues and gear (Defiance) to cover those glaring vulns in the elf, where the storm doesn't gain as much and loses out on those inherent bonuses the elf gets.

I could be wrong, but I haven't seen many hero storm 2handers lately, so it seems that people are agreeing with me.

  

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Reply RE: Variable XP Penalties: A Change to the Current Syst..., Daevryn, 25-Feb-07 10:23 PM, #1
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     Reply Iterative solutions., Valguarnera, 27-Feb-07 10:58 AM, #15
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                    Reply RE: Elf vs Storm pally, Tac, 27-Feb-07 01:38 PM #26
                         Reply RE: Elf vs Storm pally, Daevryn, 27-Feb-07 02:57 PM, #31
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