nepenthe![](./images/team_imm.gif) | Fri 15-Mar-02 03:10 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#163, "RE: Quick note re: invokers:"
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>Well, since we're still not up I'll debate the point >further. First off, you didn't deny that thieves can't lag >invokers.
That's complicated to answer correctly. Let's say that if an invoker knows he is going to fight a thief within a fairly precise time frame, he should be safe from the thief's lagging attacks. Thing is, in the general case, the invoker shouldn't know that.
> Secondly, maybe I'm wrong here, but only spear, >mace, and axe have special lagging attacks (unless you count >stun and choke which don't really lag more as stop the >fighting, or legsweep which got changed so that flying >negates it).
That's almost correct.
>That leaves a lot of spec combinations that can't lag a >prepped invoker, and proves my point that a lot of >characters out there cannot lag a prepped invoker. So, if >an invoker is coming for you, knows what skills/specs you >have to draw upon and covers those specifically, you aren't >going to be able to lag them.
Three points:
First: As a warrior, there are always going to be spec skills you wish you had, but don't. If I'm not a polearm spec there are a million times I say "Damn, I wish I had charge set right now." If I'm not a hand warrior there are times I wish I had stun, and so on. The point is, you make choices as a warrior when you pick your specs, and they set you up to be better or worse off than other choices in different situations.
Second: Lag is not the answer to all problems. For a warrior vs. invoker, it might be, or it might not be, depending on your specs, cabal, etc.
Third: If you play it right, you can always use bash. I know that sounds crazy.
>Of course, until this thread I would have said axe/mace is >the dumbest spec combo you could choose. Now I'm not so >sure. I guess that why they call remarks like yours a >nepenthism
For a warrior who wanted to fight invokers, that would probably be a pretty good combination.
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Where oh where has the art of pk gone?
[View all] , Cathoir (Guest), Wed 13-Mar-02 03:27 AM
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Where oh where has the art of pk gone?,
Valguarnera ,
13-Mar-02 04:33 PM, #3
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Cathoir (Guest),
13-Mar-02 05:31 PM, #4
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Enbuergo,
14-Mar-02 11:47 AM, #5
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Isildur,
14-Mar-02 01:16 PM, #6
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Where oh where has the art of pk gone?,
Delanan,
14-Mar-02 02:03 PM, #7
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Quick note re: invokers:,
Valguarnera ,
14-Mar-02 04:07 PM, #11
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Quick note re: invokers:,
ExPaladin (Guest),
15-Mar-02 01:36 PM, #13
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Quick note re: invokers:,
nepenthe ,
15-Mar-02 02:38 PM, #15
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Quick note re: invokers:,
ExPaladin (Guest),
15-Mar-02 02:52 PM, #17
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Quick note re: invokers:,
nepenthe ,
15-Mar-02 03:10 PM #19
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) My reply,
Dallevian,
15-Mar-02 03:49 PM, #23
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: My reply,
nepenthe ,
15-Mar-02 05:05 PM, #30
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Heh,
Dallevian,
16-Mar-02 12:10 AM, #32
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I'm honored.,
Boldereth,
16-Mar-02 02:59 PM, #33
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) This thread started out as a comment on lack of PK stra...,
Johan (Guest),
16-Mar-02 11:52 PM, #36
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: This thread started out as a comment on lack of PK ...,
Boldereth,
17-Mar-02 03:13 AM, #39
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: This thread started out as a comment on lack of PK ...,
Valguarnera ,
17-Mar-02 02:30 PM, #42
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: I'm honored.,
nepenthe ,
17-Mar-02 03:05 AM, #38
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: I'm honored.,
Jhyrbian,
18-Mar-02 11:08 AM, #45
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Quick note re: invokers:,
Kadsuane,
15-Mar-02 03:12 PM, #20
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Quick note re: invokers:,
ExPaladin (Guest),
15-Mar-02 03:22 PM, #21
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Quick note re: invokers:,
Cathoir (Guest),
15-Mar-02 04:29 PM, #27
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) What Ex-paladin was trying to say (plus more),
Brotmin,
15-Mar-02 03:42 PM, #22
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: What Ex-paladin was trying to say (plus more),
Valguarnera ,
15-Mar-02 04:47 PM, #28
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: What Ex-paladin was trying to say (plus more),
Hutto,
15-Mar-02 11:21 PM, #31
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: What Ex-paladin was trying to say (plus more),
Boldereth,
16-Mar-02 03:14 PM, #34
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Where oh where has the art of pk gone?,
Enbuergo,
14-Mar-02 02:40 PM, #8
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Some answers..,
Nightgaunt,
14-Mar-02 03:32 PM, #9
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Where oh where has the art of pk gone?,
Isildur,
14-Mar-02 03:36 PM, #10
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Where oh where has the art of pk gone?,
DOA,
15-Mar-02 01:28 PM, #12
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Where oh where has the art of pk gone?,
nepenthe ,
15-Mar-02 02:48 PM, #16
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Thieves,
Cathoir (Guest),
15-Mar-02 04:02 PM, #24
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Where oh where has the art of pk gone?,
DOA,
16-Mar-02 06:37 PM, #35
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Where oh where has the art of pk gone?,
nepenthe ,
17-Mar-02 02:49 AM, #37
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Where oh where has the art of pk gone?,
Zulghinlour,
17-Mar-02 04:01 AM, #40
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Valg makes history!,
Valguarnera ,
17-Mar-02 02:23 PM, #41
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Valg makes history!,
Delanan,
17-Mar-02 02:34 PM, #43
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Valg makes history!,
Isildur,
17-Mar-02 03:29 PM, #44
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) no offense but Draktha sucked,
jasmin,
18-Mar-02 01:49 PM, #46
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Where oh where has the art of pk gone?,
Nivek,
15-Mar-02 02:20 PM, #14
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) rangers and scrolls/staves,
nepenthe ,
15-Mar-02 02:55 PM, #18
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Where oh where has the art of pk gone?,
Isildur,
15-Mar-02 04:06 PM, #25
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) In all fairness to Hegobi...,
Delanan,
15-Mar-02 04:22 PM, #26
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Kamal? Or was that the dwarf healer? n/t,
Dallevian,
15-Mar-02 04:59 PM, #29
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Where oh where has the art of pk gone?,
Angel of Death (Guest),
13-Mar-02 01:08 PM, #1
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I disagree with near everything,
Dallevian,
13-Mar-02 01:27 PM, #2
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