Vladamir | Mon 04-Dec-06 05:32 PM |
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#15353, "In a game like CF, is that much of a surprise? Trying to be powerful is part of the game."
Edited on Mon 04-Dec-06 05:44 PM
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When a change goes in that reduces the ability of any single race/class/cabal/whatever type of character to fight, do you expect people who play habitually/are currently playing these types of characters to say "Oh, my character just got made weaker. Hooray for more hurdles!"?
I'm not trying to be a ####, but you make it sound like all anyone wants is to be able to steamroll over anyone else and thats their idea of fun. I just don't see this as a realistic picture of how the majority of the playerbase actually feels (A certain smaller cross section of the playerbase, sure), and I think you know this. If it was, do you think you would see as many healers, muters, and thieves as we do? These classes aren't typically known for their power so much as their survivability because of the abilities each possess/can possess. I don't think you really feel that way either, or you wouldn't put the kind of work into CF that you do. If we really felt that way, we'd all be playing doom in god mode and CF could piss off.
While I realize your remark was probably at least half tongue in cheek, it still came across as very much a snide crack at what has been, at least from everything I have read(Admittedly you all have probably gotten a ton of whiny emails that nobody here has seen but you), constructive criticism of a new change. Nobody is saying "WAH! YOU FUXXOED MY CHAR!" like after haste preps were removed and the other recent changes to ABS. I don't think anyone could possibly think this change will completely incapacitate their ability to play a character affected by it. But I also don't think the attitude you expressed in your post, basically blowing off valid (and constructively written) posts just because they aren't all tickled pink about their character being weakened, is doing anyone any favors.
Not all criticism is bad, and I really wish there wouldn't be so much defensiveness over people giving you negative feedback about changes that are made.
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Dual-Wielding (From the Santa Zulg Thread)
[View all] , Zulghinlour, Mon 04-Dec-06 01:49 PM
Dual-Wielding Phase 2,
Zulghinlour,
09-Dec-06 03:17 PM, #66
Dual-Wielding Phase 2.1,
Zulghinlour,
09-Dec-06 07:45 PM, #67
RE: Dual-Wielding Phase 2.1,
_Magus_,
09-Dec-06 10:38 PM, #70
RE: Dual-Wielding Phase 2.1,
Zulghinlour,
09-Dec-06 10:48 PM, #71
RE: Dual-Wielding Phase 2.1,
_Magus_,
09-Dec-06 10:52 PM, #72
RE: Dual-Wielding Phase 2.1,
Zulghinlour,
09-Dec-06 11:02 PM, #73
Thanks for the responses. ~,
_Magus_,
09-Dec-06 11:04 PM, #74
Can we get an echo for unsuccesful Dual Wield ->,
Cassman,
10-Dec-06 11:54 PM, #81
Or better yet...,
Tac,
11-Dec-06 12:38 AM, #82
Random thought...,
Tac,
11-Dec-06 12:39 AM, #83
RE: Dual-Wielding (From the Santa Zulg Thread),
TheDude,
05-Dec-06 01:34 PM, #28
RE: Dual-Wielding (From the Santa Zulg Thread),
Zulghinlour,
04-Dec-06 02:01 PM, #1
RE: Dual-Wielding and Fun,
Valguarnera,
04-Dec-06 03:26 PM, #2
In a game like CF, is that much of a surprise? Trying t...,
Vladamir,
04-Dec-06 05:44 PM #6
RE: In a game like CF, is that much of a surprise? Tryi...,
Valguarnera,
04-Dec-06 09:32 PM, #16
RE: In a game like CF, is that much of a surprise? Tryi...,
Java,
05-Dec-06 06:48 AM, #19
RE: In a game like CF, is that much of a surprise? Tryi...,
Daevryn,
05-Dec-06 08:28 AM, #20
RE: In a game like CF, is that much of a surprise? Tryi...,
Java,
05-Dec-06 09:50 PM, #52
RE: Bad Game Theory:,
Valguarnera,
05-Dec-06 09:21 AM, #21
Game theory Schametheory,
Marcus_,
05-Dec-06 10:02 AM, #22
I disagree.,
(NOT Pro),
05-Dec-06 11:19 AM, #24
Lol,
Marcus_,
05-Dec-06 12:18 PM, #26
This is how I die too, I'm just not as aggressive. Marc...,
Scrimbul,
05-Dec-06 12:56 PM, #27
RE: Credibility:,
Valguarnera,
05-Dec-06 03:05 PM, #32
RE: Credibility:,
(NOT Pro),
09-Dec-06 10:30 PM, #68
RE: Credibility:,
Valguarnera,
10-Dec-06 10:03 AM, #75
I can't say if I do or don't.,
(NOT Pro),
10-Dec-06 11:36 AM, #76
RE: I can't say if I do or don't.,
Nivek1,
10-Dec-06 02:03 PM, #77
I realize principles escape many people,
(NOT Pro),
10-Dec-06 07:03 PM, #78
Must be,
Nivek1,
10-Dec-06 07:17 PM, #79
You made this statment.,
(NOT Pro),
11-Dec-06 04:44 PM, #95
RE: I realize principles escape many people,
DurNominator,
11-Dec-06 01:15 PM, #89
RE: I realize principles escape many people,
Marcus_,
11-Dec-06 03:27 PM, #90
But you still use triggers.,
(NOT Pro),
11-Dec-06 04:38 PM, #91
No. Just plain no.,
Tac,
11-Dec-06 04:44 PM, #94
RE: No. Just plain no.,
(NOT Pro),
11-Dec-06 04:51 PM, #97
Hehe you remind me of old wiggle####,
Marcus_,
11-Dec-06 05:12 PM, #99
RE: No. Just plain no.,
Daevryn,
11-Dec-06 05:19 PM, #101
RE: Marcus and triggers:,
Valguarnera,
11-Dec-06 05:43 PM, #103
Ok...,
Tac,
11-Dec-06 05:56 PM, #104
RE: No. Just plain no.,
Isildur,
11-Dec-06 06:48 PM, #105
If you come up with a good answer, let me know. (n/t),
Daevryn,
11-Dec-06 07:41 PM, #108
I wish I could find the article I read...,
Tac,
11-Dec-06 08:40 PM, #110
RE: No. Just plain no.,
Marcus_,
12-Dec-06 04:22 AM, #121
Have you ever snooped me?,
(NOT Pro),
11-Dec-06 10:49 PM, #112
RE: Have you ever snooped me?,
Daevryn,
11-Dec-06 11:03 PM, #113
Nep: I don't understand what you mean?,
(NOT Pro),
11-Dec-06 11:08 PM, #114
Nope:,
Daevryn,
11-Dec-06 11:13 PM, #116
I quit doing that after Eshval told me to stop,
(NOT Pro),
11-Dec-06 11:37 PM, #118
You are wasting your time....,
Tac,
11-Dec-06 04:38 PM, #92
Your angst is not proof of fact.,
(NOT Pro),
11-Dec-06 04:53 PM, #98
RE: I can't say if I do or don't.,
Valguarnera,
10-Dec-06 07:33 PM, #80
What does my PK ratio have to do with....,
(NOT Pro),
11-Dec-06 04:42 PM, #93
Yea...,
Tac,
11-Dec-06 04:48 PM, #96
I'm not seeing a name. (n/t),
Valguarnera,
11-Dec-06 05:17 PM, #100
Here's the thing, Pro,
(NOT Graatch),
11-Dec-06 05:34 PM, #102
Made perfect sense.,
(NOT Pro),
11-Dec-06 11:05 PM, #111
Wha?,
Valguarnera,
11-Dec-06 11:21 PM, #117
I don't profess to be a PK' machine.,
(NOT Pro),
11-Dec-06 11:32 PM, #119
Additionally.,
(NOT Pro),
12-Dec-06 12:46 AM, #120
Don't call them out on the red herring bit,
N b M,
11-Dec-06 07:04 PM, #106
Jesus. So much stupid drama.,
Daevryn,
11-Dec-06 07:39 PM, #107
Ouch, junior high school.,
N b M,
11-Dec-06 08:06 PM, #109
RE: Ouch, junior high school.,
Daevryn,
11-Dec-06 11:11 PM, #115
Addendumn,
(NOT Pro),
09-Dec-06 10:35 PM, #69
RE: Game theory Schametheory,
Valguarnera,
05-Dec-06 03:15 PM, #33
RE: Game theory Schametheory,
DurNominator,
05-Dec-06 03:58 PM, #34
RE: Game theory Schametheory,
Tac,
05-Dec-06 04:14 PM, #35
RE: Game theory Schametheory,
Daevryn,
05-Dec-06 04:49 PM, #41
HA!,
Tac,
05-Dec-06 05:07 PM, #45
Either way conjie pay dirt is at 28.,
Eskelian,
11-Dec-06 03:46 AM, #85
Java doesn't seem like the kind of dude to take a "flip...,
_Magus_,
05-Dec-06 11:26 AM, #25
RE: Java doesn't seem like the kind of dude to take a,
Daevryn,
05-Dec-06 02:13 PM, #29
Then there is something about the code I (or you) may b...,
_Magus_,
05-Dec-06 04:35 PM, #37
RE: Then there is something about the code I (or you) m...,
Daevryn,
05-Dec-06 04:43 PM, #38
Can you explain to us how it used to work then?,
_Magus_,
05-Dec-06 04:48 PM, #40
RE: Can you explain to us how it used to work then?,
Daevryn,
05-Dec-06 04:53 PM, #42
And that doesn't strike you as being wrong? ~,
_Magus_,
05-Dec-06 04:58 PM, #44
I am pretty sure you're mistaken.,
(NOT Graatch),
05-Dec-06 05:16 PM, #47
Could be. It's been a while. (n/t),
Daevryn,
05-Dec-06 05:54 PM, #49
I'm with Graatch.,
Eskelian,
11-Dec-06 03:41 AM, #84
I'm positive you could use a held item with a broken wr...,
Jagaub,
06-Dec-06 09:44 AM, #58
You illustrated that a lot better than I could have. Th...,
_Magus_,
06-Dec-06 04:12 PM, #59
I did this with Graatch.,
(NOT Graatch),
06-Dec-06 07:52 PM, #61
I don't get to say this very much, but you're wrong.,
Java,
05-Dec-06 09:41 PM, #51
My mages routinely use shield + wand. nt,
Vladamir,
05-Dec-06 05:53 PM, #48
RE: Java doesn't seem like the kind of dude to take a,
Zulghinlour,
05-Dec-06 02:15 PM, #30
RE: Java doesn't seem like the kind of dude to take a,
_Magus_,
05-Dec-06 04:27 PM, #36
RE: Java doesn't seem like the kind of dude to take a,
DurNominator,
06-Dec-06 05:17 AM, #56
RE: Java doesn't seem like the kind of dude to take a,
Eskelian,
11-Dec-06 03:56 AM, #87
Are you sure you're thinking of the same guy? nt,
Vladamir,
05-Dec-06 04:57 PM, #43
You know what?,
Dwoggurd,
05-Dec-06 04:04 AM, #17
RE: Dual-Wielding (From the Santa Zulg Thread),
Valkenar,
04-Dec-06 03:32 PM, #3
RE: Dual-Wielding (From the Santa Zulg Thread),
Daevryn,
04-Dec-06 06:27 PM, #8
RE: Dual-Wielding (From the Santa Zulg Thread),
Igsoeh,
04-Dec-06 03:45 PM, #4
RE: Dual-Wielding (From the Santa Zulg Thread),
Daevryn,
04-Dec-06 06:32 PM, #9
I'll give you a case, at least for instrument not being...,
Scrimbul,
04-Dec-06 06:46 PM, #10
Would you feel that way...,
Daevryn,
04-Dec-06 08:05 PM, #13
RE: Would you feel that way...,
Scrimbul,
04-Dec-06 08:15 PM, #14
Actually, speaking as someone who has used a shield to ...,
Vladamir,
04-Dec-06 08:46 PM, #15
I just want to say...,
Tac,
04-Dec-06 04:33 PM, #5
RE: I just want to say...,
Daevryn,
04-Dec-06 06:24 PM, #7
RE: I just want to say...,
Vladamir,
04-Dec-06 07:22 PM, #12
Solution,
WildGirl,
04-Dec-06 07:17 PM, #11
That's not really fair.,
Java,
05-Dec-06 06:41 AM, #18
RE: That's not really fair.,
Zulghinlour,
05-Dec-06 02:22 PM, #31
RE: That's not really fair.,
Java,
05-Dec-06 04:45 PM, #39
Simple steps to determine if this is a good idea.,
Farigno,
05-Dec-06 11:09 AM, #23
You should stay away from humor as much as possible. ~,
_Magus_,
05-Dec-06 05:07 PM, #46
I would retort that perhaps you need to fine one.,
Farigno,
05-Dec-06 09:17 PM, #50
I have plenty of humor, kthxbye,
_Magus_,
05-Dec-06 10:11 PM, #54
RE: I have plenty of humor, kthxbye,
Farigno,
06-Dec-06 09:25 PM, #64
Ok, right after you do this:,
Java,
05-Dec-06 09:53 PM, #53
RE: Ok, right after you do this:,
Farigno,
06-Dec-06 01:36 AM, #55
Realistic you say,
Greddarh,
06-Dec-06 07:46 AM, #57
RE: Realistic you say,
Farigno,
06-Dec-06 07:06 PM, #60
I have a very simple solution.,
Rogue,
06-Dec-06 08:31 PM, #63
The problem is you got it backwards.,
Eskelian,
11-Dec-06 03:50 AM, #86
I'd just smack the bouncer with the recorder ;) then ma...,
Rogue,
06-Dec-06 08:27 PM, #62
Yay! Finally someone with a sense of humor! n/t,
Farigno,
07-Dec-06 12:04 AM, #65
RE: Simple steps to determine if this is a good idea.,
Eskelian,
11-Dec-06 04:01 AM, #88
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