elmeri_ | Fri 27-Oct-06 06:53 PM |
Member since 13th Dec 2004
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#15076, "A few power issues with haste being non-option as quaffable"
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My world just stopped there for a moment, but I think I'm getting a grasp at things again. While I got kicked in the junk big time, I also think it is great to see cf changed in a way that causes a big yay from the majority of the pbase! Afterall, no amount of overpowered prep makes it fun, if there is no one who enjoys logging on to make me use it . Here, I am making comparisons between fighters who did in fact have the necessary knowledge for having preps up.
Warrior vs. AP I think the anti-paladin gains a significant powerup, even with reduced haste, he has a major advantage over the previously hasted, now non-hasted high end warrior.
Warrior vs. thief/assassin Stealth class gets the shaft in this one. If you assume that both have the means to get themselves some haste, it is no longer possible to get the suprise advantage, since being able to prepare for a fight is less of an issue.
Warrior vs. bard I think the warrior gets major shaft here. One of the very few ways for a warrior to beat down a bard solo, is to outdo them in melee well enough to permalag them untill death. I fought Seltun with Gharahka, as a duergar with damroll around 60, dual wielding iron axes hasted, and I had hard time outmeleeing him (might have had haste too). If the possiblity of having haste advantage over a bard is taken away from a warrior, I think the fight becomes a no-brainer. Even more so for rager bards (I know their redux got tweaked down, but it still makes it impossible to kill one solo since their melee defense is just overwhelming).
I need to wake up in 3 hours, I will think of more.
I would like to hear the imm comments (especially nepenthe's) on what you think of my observations, and are these things you had in considerations.
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Well since no one else has jumped the gun
[View all] , Drag0nSt0rm, Fri 27-Oct-06 01:19 AM
gun jumping,
Thrakburzug,
28-Oct-06 07:12 PM, #42
My thoughts on the recent changes.,
jaynus,
28-Oct-06 02:51 AM, #40
My vote for most effected by this change.,
Odrirg,
27-Oct-06 11:52 PM, #39
RE: My vote for most effected by this change.,
Daevryn,
28-Oct-06 08:49 AM, #41
Uhm...,
Odrirg,
29-Oct-06 01:22 AM, #43
let me be a bit clearer.,
Odrirg,
29-Oct-06 02:26 AM, #44
RE: let me be a bit clearer.,
Daevryn,
29-Oct-06 08:50 AM, #45
It comes down to...,
Lightmage,
29-Oct-06 09:14 AM, #46
RE: My vote for most effected by this change.,
Isildur,
29-Oct-06 10:03 AM, #47
Delete Delete,
Astillian,
27-Oct-06 07:58 PM, #35
RE: Delete Delete,
Daevryn,
27-Oct-06 08:04 PM, #36
Hmmm...,
Astillian,
27-Oct-06 08:18 PM, #37
RE: Hmmm...,
Daevryn,
29-Oct-06 11:30 AM, #49
Hey! I was close to a 50% PK ratio, and so was Bliggy ...,
TheLastMohican,
27-Oct-06 08:52 PM, #38
A few power issues with haste being non-option as quaff...,
elmeri_,
27-Oct-06 06:53 PM #33
But teleport may fail now. Right?,
Dwoggurd,
27-Oct-06 02:00 PM, #27
RE: But teleport may fail now. Right?,
(NOT Graatch),
27-Oct-06 02:18 PM, #29
Heh, chill down,
Dwoggurd,
27-Oct-06 02:23 PM, #30
RE: But teleport may fail now. Right?,
Isildur,
29-Oct-06 10:05 AM, #48
I'm sure you'll be shocked at my concern here.,
(NOT Graatch),
27-Oct-06 01:53 PM, #26
Here is an idea,
Hippy,
27-Oct-06 02:06 PM, #28
Im sure there is more to come. n/t,
Lightmage,
27-Oct-06 02:30 PM, #31
RE: I'm sure you'll be shocked at my concern here.,
Tac,
27-Oct-06 02:33 PM, #32
I love the change also,
Hippy,
27-Oct-06 01:03 PM, #23
I love this change. One Question:,
Adhelard,
27-Oct-06 12:02 PM, #20
RE: One Question:,
Valguarnera,
27-Oct-06 12:41 PM, #22
RE: One Question:,
Daevryn,
27-Oct-06 01:38 PM, #25
what about gates of the forge,
laxman,
27-Oct-06 09:01 AM, #15
RE: what about gates of the forge,
Daevryn,
27-Oct-06 10:55 AM, #18
RE: Well since no one else has jumped the gun,
Daevryn,
27-Oct-06 07:45 AM, #7
Question of my own to Daev:,
shamanman,
27-Oct-06 05:49 AM, #6
RE: Question of my own to Daev:,
Daevryn,
27-Oct-06 07:55 AM, #12
Skeptical,
Mayaletha,
27-Oct-06 05:55 AM, #5
RE: Skeptical,
Daevryn,
27-Oct-06 07:55 AM, #11
Haste, Bloodlust and regen,
Abernyte,
27-Oct-06 03:24 AM, #4
RE: Haste, Bloodlust and regen,
Daevryn,
27-Oct-06 07:54 AM, #10
RE: Well since no one else has jumped the gun,
Erenthell,
27-Oct-06 02:33 AM, #3
My concern,
elmeri_,
27-Oct-06 02:04 AM, #2
RE: My concern,
Daevryn,
27-Oct-06 07:48 AM, #9
Silly question.,
elmeri_,
27-Oct-06 09:11 AM, #16
RE: Well since no one else has jumped the gun,
Karel,
27-Oct-06 01:46 AM, #1
RE: Well since no one else has jumped the gun,
Daevryn,
27-Oct-06 07:47 AM, #8
Right, just so I am clear.,
Shadowmaster,
27-Oct-06 07:56 AM, #13
Opinion noted.,
Valguarnera,
27-Oct-06 09:18 AM, #17
RE: Right, just so I am clear.,
Daevryn,
27-Oct-06 11:39 AM, #19
Do you want me to comment on all the good?,
Shadowmaster,
27-Oct-06 12:16 PM, #21
Wow, you're STILL bitching about Cabdru?,
Rogue,
27-Oct-06 01:15 PM, #24
Please Read This,
Mayaletha,
27-Oct-06 07:43 PM, #34
Nepenthe can you answer one thing relating to that poin...,
Lightmage,
27-Oct-06 08:27 AM, #14
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