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SebeokThu 22-Jun-06 02:37 PM
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#13548, "RE: Here is my take on it"


          

Since its dirty laundry day around here, I'll respond to some of this below.

>Im not sure what the best way is but I do think that
>annonymity isnt always the best. Take Yanacek for example, its
>better if he remained anonymous. However his identiy was
>betrayed by his own methods of unfair advantages which are
>code related. Everyone knew about Yana and the #### hit the
>fan when his main guns got changed upon deletion. Anonymity is
>only good when #### happens that should not happen. If Sebeok
>had changed the poisoners once he realised what was happening,
>there would be no reason to be hiding. But he didnt. Hence
>anonymity sort of hides his abuse.

I changed dozens of things with poisoners during my time playing that character, most of which were downgrades. What was changed after I agedeathed as far as I can tell was you can't suggest murder or nofollow (and maybe trustall?). I didn't then, and I don't now, think the ability to do those was bs or unfair. I can count on one finger how many "overpowered" and "ridiculous" poisoners there's ever been.


>I would love to see that kind of honesty from imms. I would
>have loved have seen Sebeok say after deleting "Yah know,
>while playing yanacek i realized that poisoners had some
>overpowered stuff going on so I took a look at the code and
>changed it, to see how it would pan out, while im playing such
>a char."

I make changes to the code on a somewhat daily basis. Historically, a lot of this is based on what I've found in playing and watching. The same can be said by Drok and Valg and Zulg. Is my idea of overpowered different than theirs sometimes? Sure. Do I get outvoted on some things, sure. But believe it or not we're always trying to act in the game's best interest.


>
>Why not give us some expert feedback on somes things. Hey, i
>played this char and noticed X, it may be over/under powered.
>Ill check it out, or i checked it out and decided to do this.
>Thats what I want to see and im sure others would too.
>

I'll try to do this more - I'm usually pretty good about announcing changes I make, if they're important.

>Play the game, enjoy it like everyone else does, be fair and
>truthful with others and yourself, rely on your skill and
>knowledge, not manipulation of ooc factors, share if you need
>to, do not go out of your way not to share and you will not
>need to be anonymous anymore. Follow the same rules you
>enforce on us players. Once people know you are telling the
>truth and are being honest with them, it wont matter who you
>play or what you play. There will always be the bad apples of
>us just like there are bad apples in your lot up there.

I'm sure tons of people think I'm a liar or a cheater or whatever. I'd be lying if I said it wasn't discouraging, but I can answer any accusation you might throw at me. I've heard them all. Sometimes mistakes have been made, but most of this crap is absolutely ridiculous.

  

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HOT Locked TopicAnonymity [View all] , nepenthe, Tue 31-Jul-07 02:26 PM
Reply Thread locked., Valguarnera, 31-Jul-07 06:28 PM, #148
Reply RE: Anonymity, Eskelian, 31-Jul-07 02:46 PM, #132
Reply RE: Arolin and bugs:, Valguarnera, 31-Jul-07 03:03 PM, #134
Reply Arolin was a cheating #### and I'm glad he's gone., Vladamir, 31-Jul-07 03:53 PM, #140
Reply RE: Anonymity, Vladamir, 31-Jul-07 10:29 AM, #121
Reply RE: Role contest:, Valguarnera, 31-Jul-07 11:13 AM, #122
Reply RE: Role contest:, Conclave (Anonymous), 31-Jul-07 12:40 PM, #123
Reply He clearly said he wasn't addressing other points.~, Aodh, 31-Jul-07 12:37 PM, #125
Reply I am not sure I understand your post., Conclave (Anonymous), 31-Jul-07 12:49 PM, #126
Reply No need to be difficult, jasmin, 31-Jul-07 12:58 PM, #127
Reply RE: Unsolicited input., Conclave (Anonymous), 31-Jul-07 01:22 PM, #128
     Reply you are ignoring the "meat" of my post, jasmin, 31-Jul-07 02:46 PM, #133
Reply RE: Role contest:, Valguarnera, 31-Jul-07 01:39 PM, #129
Reply Why delete my post?, Conclave (Anonymous), 31-Jul-07 02:33 PM, #130
     Reply RE: Why delete my post?, Valguarnera, 31-Jul-07 02:42 PM, #131
     Reply RE: Why delete my post?, Daevryn, 31-Jul-07 03:35 PM, #136
Reply Dear Deathweaver/Shadowmaster/Conclave/etc:, Valguarnera, 31-Jul-07 06:24 PM, #146
Reply Dead horses., Vladamir, 31-Jul-07 03:28 PM, #135
     Reply RE: Dead horses., Daevryn, 31-Jul-07 03:42 PM, #138
          Reply RE: Dead horses., Vladamir, 31-Jul-07 03:51 PM, #139
               Reply RE: Dead horses., Daevryn, 31-Jul-07 04:04 PM, #142
                    Reply Found it., Vladamir, 31-Jul-07 04:36 PM, #143
                         Reply RE: Found it., Daevryn, 31-Jul-07 04:46 PM, #144
                              Reply RE: Found it., Vladamir, 31-Jul-07 05:05 PM, #145
Reply RE: Anonymity, Daevryn, 31-Jul-07 03:59 PM, #141
     Reply Just One Question, ORB, 31-Jul-07 06:25 PM, #147
Reply Then vs Now, Rade, 29-Jul-07 03:02 PM, #94
Reply RE: Then vs Now, Daevryn, 30-Jul-07 08:48 AM, #96
     Reply Not really, Nightgaunt_, 30-Jul-07 03:05 PM, #97
     Reply RE: Not really, Daevryn, 30-Jul-07 03:38 PM, #98
     Reply RE: Not really, Nightgaunt_, 30-Jul-07 04:03 PM, #99
          Reply I will do Nep's heavy lifting here for him txt, Larcat, 30-Jul-07 04:18 PM, #100
          Reply RE: I will do Nep's heavy lifting here for him txt, Nightgaunt_, 30-Jul-07 04:38 PM, #101
          Reply IC Information Sharing, Kastellyn, 30-Jul-07 04:44 PM, #102
               Reply RE: IC Information Sharing, Nightgaunt_, 30-Jul-07 04:59 PM, #103
               Reply RE: IC Information Sharing, Daevryn, 30-Jul-07 09:22 PM, #109
               Reply RE: IC Information Sharing, Nightgaunt_, 31-Jul-07 02:10 AM, #113
                    Reply RE: IC Information Sharing, Daevryn, 31-Jul-07 08:57 AM, #117
                         Reply RE: IC Information Sharing, Nightgaunt_, 31-Jul-07 10:15 AM, #120
               Reply RE: IC Information Sharing, Kastellyn, 31-Jul-07 12:09 AM, #112
                    Reply i remember rank 25 valguarnera showing me that quest, laxman, 31-Jul-07 06:50 AM, #114
               Reply RE: IC Information Sharing, Rade, 30-Jul-07 07:43 PM, #104
               Reply Are you capable of not being an ass in how you share?, Nightshade, 30-Jul-07 08:04 PM, #106
               Reply RE: IC Information Sharing, Daevryn, 30-Jul-07 09:19 PM, #107
                    Reply Here's a character idea I was thinking about...., Tac, 31-Jul-07 08:36 AM, #115
                         Reply RE: Here's a character idea I was thinking about...., Daevryn, 31-Jul-07 09:02 AM, #118
                              Reply I still don't think it would fly..., Tac, 31-Jul-07 09:41 AM, #119
               Reply RE: IC Information Sharing, Conclave (Anonymous), 31-Jul-07 12:37 PM, #124
                    Reply RE: IC Information Sharing, Daevryn, 31-Jul-07 03:36 PM, #137
     Reply RE: Not really, Daevryn, 30-Jul-07 09:27 PM, #110
     Reply RE: Then vs Now, Rade, 30-Jul-07 07:26 PM, #105
          Reply RE: Then vs Now, Daevryn, 30-Jul-07 09:22 PM, #108
               Reply RE: Then vs Now, Rade, 30-Jul-07 11:13 PM, #111
                    Reply RE: Then vs Now, Daevryn, 31-Jul-07 08:55 AM, #116
Reply RE: Anonymity, HammerSong, 26-Jun-06 01:30 PM, #82
Reply Then why reveal you played cadbru in the first place?, Abthalok, 25-Jun-06 03:16 PM, #77
Reply RE: Then why reveal you played cadbru in the first plac..., nepenthe, 25-Jun-06 04:03 PM, #79
     Reply um...?, Odrirg, 28-Jun-06 02:22 AM, #88
          Reply RE: um...?, Sandello, 28-Jun-06 01:19 PM, #89
               Reply RE: um...?, nepenthe, 28-Jun-06 05:53 PM, #92
                    Reply RE: um...?, Sandello, 28-Jun-06 06:16 PM, #93
                    Reply I wish I knew that had changed, A2, 30-Jul-07 08:45 AM, #95
Reply RE: Anonymity, Gaenlin, 25-Jun-06 01:07 PM, #75
Reply Some thoughts, Dwoggurd, 24-Jun-06 07:51 AM, #58
Reply RE: Some thoughts, Amaranthe, 24-Jun-06 11:08 AM, #59
Reply I find this quite an amazing line to take, incognito, 24-Jun-06 11:35 AM, #60
Reply RE: I find this quite an amazing line to take, nepenthe, 24-Jun-06 02:45 PM, #66
Reply Answers, Dwoggurd, 24-Jun-06 12:35 PM, #61
Reply To Incog as well, sort of, Amaranthe, 24-Jun-06 02:01 PM, #62
Reply Hehe, Dwoggurd, 24-Jun-06 02:28 PM, #63
     Reply RE: Hehe, Amaranthe, 24-Jun-06 02:39 PM, #64
          Reply Don't worry, Dwoggurd, 24-Jun-06 02:42 PM, #65
          Reply RE: Hehe, Isildur, 27-Jun-06 04:21 PM, #85
Reply RE: Answers, nepenthe, 24-Jun-06 02:53 PM, #67
     Reply Re, Dwoggurd, 24-Jun-06 03:08 PM, #68
Reply RE: Some thoughts, Eskelian, 26-Jun-06 08:12 AM, #81
Reply RE: Some thoughts, Valguarnera, 24-Jun-06 03:39 PM, #69
Reply Hrm, Dwoggurd, 24-Jun-06 04:14 PM, #70
Reply RE: Hrm, nepenthe, 25-Jun-06 01:05 AM, #72
     Reply I agree with this, nebel, 25-Jun-06 11:27 AM, #74
          Reply RE: I agree with this, terinth, 27-Jun-06 10:59 PM, #86
               Reply Orcs are creatures filled with hatred violent rage, DurNominator, 28-Jun-06 01:34 AM, #87
Reply RE: Some thoughts, Kamuela_, 24-Jun-06 10:07 PM, #71
Reply Irony, Cenatar_, 25-Jun-06 02:40 PM, #76
     Reply RE: Irony, nepenthe, 25-Jun-06 03:54 PM, #78
     Reply RE: Irony, Valguarnera, 25-Jun-06 04:09 PM, #80
          Reply Ouch..., Minyar, 27-Jun-06 03:43 PM, #84
          Reply Hello valg, Cenatar_, 28-Jun-06 02:24 PM, #90
               Reply RE: Hello valg, nepenthe, 28-Jun-06 04:44 PM, #91
Reply Good post., Thinhallen, 25-Jun-06 06:54 AM, #73
Reply What I don't understand about the people complaining..., KoeKhaos, 24-Jun-06 05:23 AM, #57
Reply I knew it was you when..., (NOT Pro), 24-Jun-06 12:25 AM, #54
Reply An opinion from both sides of the fence., Farigno, 23-Jun-06 10:30 PM, #52
Reply RE: An opinion from both sides of the fence., nepenthe, 23-Jun-06 11:06 PM, #53
Reply Thank you for expressing the same thoughts I had. n/t, Cytherea, 24-Jun-06 12:49 AM, #55
Reply I don't agree with a major point here, incognito, 24-Jun-06 03:07 AM, #56
Reply Respect for stepping up to the plate., Caleban, 23-Jun-06 02:16 AM, #47
Reply Blah, N b M, 22-Jun-06 06:39 PM, #45
Reply In a void of information...., Tac, 22-Jun-06 04:14 PM, #39
Reply RE: Anonymity, Shapa, 22-Jun-06 03:19 PM, #29
Reply RE: Anonymity, nepenthe, 22-Jun-06 03:24 PM, #31
Reply I understand your reasons but I appreciate knowing...., Abernyte, 22-Jun-06 03:14 PM, #27
Reply RE: I understand your reasons but I appreciate knowing...., nepenthe, 22-Jun-06 03:21 PM, #30
     Reply RE: :(, shamanman, 22-Jun-06 03:27 PM, #32
          Reply RE: :(, nepenthe, 22-Jun-06 03:30 PM, #34
               Reply Well, think about it this way..., shamanman, 22-Jun-06 03:38 PM, #36
Reply I'm sorry it came out, A2, 22-Jun-06 02:53 PM, #22
Reply RE: Anonymity, Eskelian, 22-Jun-06 02:47 PM, #21
Reply RE: Anonymity, Valguarnera, 22-Jun-06 03:31 PM, #35
     Reply RE: Anonymity, Eskelian, 22-Jun-06 04:08 PM, #37
     Reply RE: Anonymity, Valguarnera, 22-Jun-06 04:19 PM, #40
     Reply RE: Anonymity, Xaannix, 22-Jun-06 05:30 PM, #43
     Reply RE: Anonymity, Xaannix, 22-Jun-06 05:54 PM, #44
Reply Logs, Xaannix, 22-Jun-06 02:20 PM, #15
Reply Here is my take on it, Xaannix, 22-Jun-06 02:13 PM, #13
Reply RE: Here is my take on it, Valguarnera, 22-Jun-06 02:28 PM, #16
Reply Good and bad for you within! TXT, Larcat, 22-Jun-06 02:33 PM, #17
Reply RE: Here is my take on it, Xaannix, 22-Jun-06 02:38 PM, #18
Reply RE: Here is my take on it, Sebeok, 22-Jun-06 02:37 PM #19
Reply RE: Here is my take on it, Xaannix, 22-Jun-06 03:02 PM, #23
     Reply RE: Here is my take on it, Sebeok, 22-Jun-06 03:15 PM, #28
     Reply Multikills with poisoned items after ghost?, Lhydia, 23-Jun-06 06:16 AM, #48
          Reply RE: Multikills with poisoned items after ghost?, Sebeok, 23-Jun-06 08:47 AM, #49
     Reply My View, Khasotholas, 27-Jun-06 03:08 PM, #83
Reply The problem is, coincedences DO happen, Theerkla, 22-Jun-06 02:45 PM, #20
Reply Yup., Valguarnera, 22-Jun-06 03:09 PM, #25
     Reply RE: Yup., nepenthe, 22-Jun-06 03:57 PM, #38
          Reply That actually makes me feel a lot better about this. (t..., Trilo, 23-Jun-06 06:27 PM, #51
Reply RE: Here is my take on it, nepenthe, 22-Jun-06 03:03 PM, #24
     Reply Thanks, Xaannix, 22-Jun-06 03:12 PM, #26
     Reply RE: Thanks, nepenthe, 22-Jun-06 03:28 PM, #33
          Reply RE: Thanks, Xaannix, 22-Jun-06 05:31 PM, #42
     Reply RE: Here is my take on it, GoodLuckDice, 23-Jun-06 01:50 AM, #46
Reply Man... TXT, Larcat, 22-Jun-06 02:04 PM, #12
Reply Sentiments I Respect, wretchedmongrel, 22-Jun-06 01:50 PM, #10
Reply RE: Anonymity, Cenatar_, 22-Jun-06 01:26 PM, #8
Reply So what you are saying is..., Lightmage, 22-Jun-06 01:23 PM, #7
Reply RE: Anonymity, Isildur, 22-Jun-06 01:22 PM, #6
Reply RE: Anonymity, nepenthe, 22-Jun-06 01:54 PM, #11
     Reply RE: Anonymity, Xaannix, 22-Jun-06 02:16 PM, #14
Reply Wow - great post., Sebeok, 22-Jun-06 01:18 PM, #5
Reply Dude, check this out, eternal_elf, 22-Jun-06 01:12 PM, #4
Reply RE: Dude, check this out, nepenthe, 22-Jun-06 01:43 PM, #9
     Reply RE: Dude, check this out, valrow22, 22-Jun-06 04:34 PM, #41
     Reply You are such a tease :(. n/t, eternal_elf, 23-Jun-06 11:11 AM, #50
Reply RE: Anonymity, the shark, 22-Jun-06 01:08 PM, #2
Reply It's said that this is necessary, Theerkla, 22-Jun-06 01:01 PM, #1
     Reply I would just like to say I very strongly second the sen..., Tac, 22-Jun-06 01:11 PM, #3
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