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StraklawTue 05-Jun-12 02:25 AM
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#2885, "I feel you never encountered a fiendish ice devil."


          

Recognizing that hindsight is 20/20, I've played plenty of ragers, I tend to TRY and play unconventional builds (and therefore tend to have to try lots of new tactics until I find something that MIGHT work...including orcs), and pretty much STARTED the entirety of the dagger spec world, I feel you're massively off on your assessment of Clahier's overpoweredness. For one, he's what...the THIRD good conjurer in history that's actually killed a half-dozen evils?

1) At no point could you not have simply run away. This compares to paladins, who are very powerful in a cage match, but are somewhat mitigated by the fact that you can just RUN AWAY. Particularly as a dagger spec (and therefore warrior), this is an advantage you've thrown away. Compare that to devil conjurers, I've had plenty of fights where I've just been too incapacitated to fight and sometimes even live just by TRYING to fight them for five rounds.

2) You're also going up against an ABS mage likely in full protections, and with (for what good it does) healing backup. I can name plenty of those that are nasty enough just with that setup.

3) You made plenty of actions in that fight that did you NO good. If you want me to specify, I can, but that's not really the point. It's the fact that you're taking a fight that you didn't perform at your top, against a character who pretty much did.

In closing, however, I do feel that the higher tier conjurer servitors (particularly non-elemental ones) might be a bit TOO beefy overall. In the 20-40s range, it's not an unreasonable tactic to at least kill off the servitors instead of the conjurer, stopping his offense. At hero, I've often had choices of targetting the ABS mage, a good/evil servitor that is in a practice sense unkillable, or even unwoundable enough to make a difference in its mood (and is now likely to add MANGLE-DEMO attacks), and elementals that I MIGHT be able to kill if they're not the special conjurations.

  

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Reply RE: Not just dash...., Oldril, 08-Jun-12 07:39 AM, #11
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Reply You are too kind, laxman, 07-Jun-12 12:28 PM, #7
     Reply RE: You are too kind, Oldril, 08-Jun-12 07:39 AM, #8
     Reply RE: You are too kind, Daevryn, 08-Jun-12 07:40 AM, #12
     Reply allow me to enlighten you, laxman, 08-Jun-12 09:24 AM, #15
     Reply RE: You are too kind, Daevryn, 08-Jun-12 07:50 AM, #14
Reply You losing this fight had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with..., Lhydia, 07-Jun-12 12:28 PM, #2
Reply Feel free to post your log of killing him, Oldril, 08-Jun-12 07:39 AM, #9
Reply I feel you never encountered a fiendish ice devil., Straklaw, 07-Jun-12 12:28 PM #1
     Reply I have and died to that too., Oldril, 08-Jun-12 07:39 AM, #10
          Reply RE: I have and died to that too., Daevryn, 08-Jun-12 07:45 AM, #13
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