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#721, "You are bass akwards. In a big way."
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People try to make RL morality and CF morality two differing things.
They are not.
Good and evil are pretty well defined. If you murder a child for personal gain. That' an Evil act.
If you murder Tarus for his bracers, that's an evil act. You can justify it all day long, but what you did is murder somebody for his possesions or for personal gain.
We can define these as evil simply by using a real world comparisson. It's not exclusive to CF. CF's notions of good and evil are rooted in RL.
Now for the Politics. An outlander can justify his reasons for doing it, because Tarus is a Dwarf, and feel completely at home with his reasoning. He may sleep well at night and go on to have fat babies. That doesn't change the moral Implications of it.
Moral reletivism is a bunch of bunk.
CF skews the fact that in real life most people will not commit heinous crimes such as these. But we as CF players know right from wrong based on our real life assumptions and experiences.
I can give the Josiah defense all day, but the fact remains that Right and wrong are pretty well defined. So well in fact I as a good player will not forgive a Neutral for ranking in Balator.
People get confused with the concept of Neutral. For me it's simply. I have an ideology. I do not swing one way or th other as it benifits me, but I adhere to a mind set. I will fight dwarven guards as readily as Duergar guards, should it fit my cause. I will not murder children, but I may well not get involved with defending someone elses either.
There is no gray to it at all. We all are going to piss on each others boots once in a while, but justification is really nothing more th an RP angle. It doesn't change what's right from wrong.
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Paladins
[View all] , Vandir, Tue 12-Apr-05 05:07 PM
The Paladin Code,
Aarn,
21-Apr-05 02:24 PM, #42
My approach,
Innis,
21-Apr-05 01:30 PM, #41
RE: Paladins,
Zulghinlour,
19-Apr-05 04:39 PM, #32
Agreed,
Theerkla,
20-Apr-05 06:59 AM, #34
RE: Agreed,
Grurk Muouk,
20-Apr-05 11:35 AM, #37
The thing is, Grurk has a red aura,
Theerkla,
20-Apr-05 11:53 AM, #38
Whatever works for your char's role.,
Alarian,
20-Apr-05 01:48 PM, #39
Here's how I did it as a mortal.,
Alarian,
17-Apr-05 07:17 PM, #30
RE: Paladins,
nepenthe,
12-Apr-05 05:36 PM, #1
On that note...,
Aarn,
12-Apr-05 06:34 PM, #2
Well, as someone that tries,
incognito,
12-Apr-05 06:45 PM, #3
RE: Well, as someone that tries,
Aarn,
13-Apr-05 07:58 AM, #4
RE: Well, as someone that tries,
Rodriguez,
13-Apr-05 11:14 AM, #5
RE: Well, as someone that tries,
Aarn,
13-Apr-05 11:41 AM, #6
So I could say, Rape a nine year old Florida girl, and ...,
(NOT Pro),
13-Apr-05 05:10 PM, #7
I hate you for this post, but,
Wilhath,
13-Apr-05 05:40 PM, #8
his arguments are not mutually exclusive,
incognito,
13-Apr-05 09:36 PM, #10
RE: his arguments are not mutually exclusive,
Wilhath,
14-Apr-05 04:02 PM, #12
Not quite,
Aarn,
13-Apr-05 06:02 PM, #9
It's a different world.,
DurNominator,
14-Apr-05 02:15 PM, #11
Relative vrs. absolute morality,
Alarian,
15-Apr-05 08:41 AM, #13
I hope you get a religion.,
(NOT Pro),
15-Apr-05 12:15 PM, #14
RE: Relative vrs. absolute morality,
DurNominator,
15-Apr-05 12:34 PM, #15
Relative Morality, Real world vs. Game world,
Odrirg,
15-Apr-05 12:54 PM, #16
RE: Relative Morality, Real world vs. Game world,
nepenthe,
15-Apr-05 01:03 PM, #18
sorry for getting off-subject,
Odrirg,
15-Apr-05 01:20 PM, #19
Whoa,
Aarn,
15-Apr-05 02:02 PM, #20
Also, to bring it back to Paladins...,
Odrirg,
15-Apr-05 02:12 PM, #21
RE: Also, to bring it back to Paladins...,
A2,
19-Apr-05 04:19 PM, #31
No.,
Odrirg,
19-Apr-05 04:56 PM, #33
RE: No.,
A2,
20-Apr-05 11:30 AM, #36
You're both right.,
Alarian,
20-Apr-05 01:56 PM, #40
Paladins shouldn't associate with evil.,
DurNominator,
20-Apr-05 10:35 AM, #35
You are bass akwards. In a big way.,
(NOT Pro),
15-Apr-05 12:58 PM #17
RE: You are bass akwards. In a big way.,
Aarn,
15-Apr-05 02:31 PM, #22
If we bring this back to CF.,
DurNominator,
15-Apr-05 03:18 PM, #23
This, I agree with. somewhat.,
Odrirg,
15-Apr-05 03:52 PM, #24
Me too. That's not anathema to what he's saying though.,
(NOT Pro),
15-Apr-05 06:36 PM, #26
That works too.,
DurNominator,
16-Apr-05 12:41 AM, #28
Heh,. Okay. We agree.,
(NOT Pro),
15-Apr-05 06:35 PM, #25
Is this about right?,
Vandir,
15-Apr-05 08:18 PM, #27
I love stuff like this.....,
Alarian,
17-Apr-05 06:59 PM, #29
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