I have never worried about an orangutan after their smash was changed with any form. I have eaten them utterly basically. fox has always been a bigger problem for me for every char I have had, that has at least fought both of them. I will not that it hasnt been all that many.
As per your first line, also keep in mind utility form had barrier/aura/shield/stone skin. 1360 or so hp at the time went pretty damn far too. He had to flee before I had to. While he had pills and could heal and basically outlast me even if teh pills had lag on it, umm, it being lagless healing that I was ranting about, literally. he was fully healed *snaps his fingers* like that. While orc healing with their skins is lagless, its a skill to the class/isnt full heal/have to kill for the skins, even if it is something of a weak monster/is a skin can be gotten etc, it isnt something available to all classes like the pill is, and to me is something easily abused.
Irreguardless, it isnt something that will be changed to be, what I see at least, mroe balanced, by having a little lag attached to it. Using the pills with just a little lag, would that have won it in for me? No, but it would have been more balanced than an immediate full restore at little cost.
I have a char now, so all know. Its a char that I am taking out aggrivation with. My char after I will be taking advantage of quite a few things done by the imms I dont see as being fair. I will likely be ruining alot of players experience doing this, and hopefully some points will be made with actual logs. This is my last post on my death board. I am sorry in advance, but it cannot be said that I did not firstly speak of it.