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#90907, "then fix the problem, change penalties for align change"
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to make them actual penalties instead of a drawn out delete.
The double wrath vuln alone is enough drawback for align change in my book, do you realize how many wrath weapons are out there? Throw on top of that perhaps make everything cost 2 times as much for you (merchants find you untrustworthy) and maybe penalize the use of npc healers. That in and of itself represents a pretty big mechanical disadvantage that should overcome any power gaming reason to switch aligns. Of course priests should lose empowerment still and have to get it back.
Then you can actually have fortress trying to turn people good Empire trying to turn people evil eh nobody cares about ethos but it really should be more fluid too even though there are really no draw backs for it now.
There is two sides to cf, converting and killing and as we grow smaller I think it is more of the convererts who have left (since they can't actually ever achieve their goals) then the killers.
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(DELETED) [EMPIRE] Melememelem the Smiting Fist of the ...
[View all] , Death_Angel , Tue 02-Mar-10 01:56 AM
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Melememelem (Guest),
04-Mar-10 12:55 PM, #23
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Daevryn,
04-Mar-10 01:27 PM, #27
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Mel (Guest),
04-Mar-10 01:54 PM, #30
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Perhaps!,
Daevryn,
04-Mar-10 03:15 PM, #38
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I didn't have the full picture,
Knac (Guest),
04-Mar-10 02:11 PM, #31
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: (DELETED) [EMPIRE] Melememelem the Smiting Fist of ...,
Isildur,
04-Mar-10 02:24 PM, #33
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: (DELETED) [EMPIRE] Melememelem the Smiting Fist of ...,
Nos (Guest),
04-Mar-10 02:46 PM, #34
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: (DELETED) [EMPIRE] Melememelem the Smiting Fist of ...,
Mel (Guest),
04-Mar-10 03:03 PM, #35
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I figured you were Mel or Knacnar due to playing times.,
TMNS_lazy (Guest),
04-Mar-10 03:05 PM, #36
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Hehe,
Nurok (Guest),
04-Mar-10 03:13 PM, #37
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) COMPLETELY AGREE.,
Forsakenz (Guest),
04-Mar-10 03:24 PM, #39
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Another thing I agree with.,
Jazon (Guest),
04-Mar-10 03:56 PM, #41
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Another thing I agree with.,
Daevryn,
04-Mar-10 04:01 PM, #42
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) At least people didn't sound like retards offering oath...,
Alex (Guest),
04-Mar-10 05:00 PM, #43
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: At least people didn't sound like retards offering ...,
Daevryn,
04-Mar-10 06:01 PM, #52
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) True, but imperials are supposed to offer everyone the ...,
CharlieWaffles,
04-Mar-10 06:12 PM, #53
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) The way to refer to least important part. nt,
Alex (Guest),
04-Mar-10 07:49 PM, #55
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) then fix the problem, change penalties for align change,
quas (Guest),
04-Mar-10 05:46 PM #48
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I don't think that's a good idea. (n/t),
Daevryn,
04-Mar-10 06:01 PM, #51
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: I don't think that's a good idea. (n/t),
Isildur,
04-Mar-10 07:16 PM, #54
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: I don't think that's a good idea. (n/t),
Hutto,
05-Mar-10 03:13 AM, #62
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) What are the Anathema penalties?,
Minyar1 (Guest),
05-Mar-10 10:10 AM, #69
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: What are the Anathema penalties?,
Daevryn,
05-Mar-10 10:21 AM, #70
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Vengeance is really quite brutal on Anathema.,
TMNS_lazy (Guest),
05-Mar-10 03:38 PM, #75
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: What are the Anathema penalties?,
Hutto,
06-Mar-10 01:15 AM, #77
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I hope you guys know i was being sarcastic.,
Minyar1 (Guest),
07-Mar-10 10:38 PM, #78
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I was RIGHT!,
Dregthun (Guest),
04-Mar-10 05:04 PM, #44
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: I was RIGHT!,
Mem (Guest),
04-Mar-10 05:14 PM, #46
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I suspected that too. Due to the same reason. nt,
Dervish2 (Guest),
04-Mar-10 11:43 PM, #58
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Adarmar (Guest),
04-Mar-10 05:11 PM, #45
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Cheeky bitch,
Uial (Guest),
04-Mar-10 05:28 PM, #47
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Well..,
Zinsizin (Guest),
04-Mar-10 05:50 PM, #49
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) The Good and the Bad,
Fwipplethunt (Guest),
04-Mar-10 05:56 PM, #50
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: (DELETED) [EMPIRE] Melememelem the Smiting Fist of ...,
Malakhi,
04-Mar-10 11:50 PM, #59
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I agree with almost everything here,
Daurwyn2 (Guest),
05-Mar-10 03:22 AM, #63
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I enjoyed my interactions with you although they were m...,
Alondarin (Guest),
05-Mar-10 07:09 AM, #67
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: (DELETED) [EMPIRE] Melememelem the Smiting Fist of ...,
ellywinkle (Guest),
02-Mar-10 11:22 PM, #21
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Breaking my own rule,
Knac (Guest),
02-Mar-10 09:49 PM, #19
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I can say it three times fast,
Trewyn1 (Guest),
03-Mar-10 12:58 AM, #22
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Breaking my own rule,
Mel (Guest),
04-Mar-10 12:59 PM, #24
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Breaking my own rule,
HammerSong ,
04-Mar-10 10:31 PM, #56
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Maybe it should be explicitly said somewhere then,
Guy (Guest),
04-Mar-10 11:15 PM, #57
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: Breaking my own rule,
Mel (Guest),
04-Mar-10 11:52 PM, #60
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Breaking my own rule,
34-inside,
05-Mar-10 01:50 AM, #61
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Yeah, the secret handshake stuff going on right now is ...,
trewyn,
05-Mar-10 04:54 AM, #64
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Yeah, the secret handshake stuff going on right now...,
Grobbak,
05-Mar-10 05:10 AM, #65
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Yeah, maybe then village will stop patrolling eastern r...,
Alex (Guest),
05-Mar-10 07:17 AM, #68
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) when a mage/enemy doesn't have to use one command to ge...,
quas (Guest),
05-Mar-10 05:33 PM, #76
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) If you don't know,
Elhe (Guest),
05-Mar-10 06:17 AM, #66
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: If you don't know,
Graatch (Guest),
05-Mar-10 12:24 PM, #71
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: If you don't know,
Elhe (Guest),
05-Mar-10 12:42 PM, #72
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: If you don't know,
Graatch (Guest),
05-Mar-10 01:21 PM, #73
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) And...,
Graatch (Guest),
05-Mar-10 01:43 PM, #74
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) I heard a lot of bad stuff about you,
Daurwyn2 (Guest),
02-Mar-10 07:23 PM, #18
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) NOOO!,
Ckath (Guest),
02-Mar-10 03:14 PM, #16
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: NOOO!,
Mel (Guest),
04-Mar-10 01:14 PM, #25
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Well played,
Nnaeshuk (Guest),
02-Mar-10 02:16 PM, #15
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: Well played,
Mel (Guest),
04-Mar-10 01:16 PM, #26
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) A couple of things.,
Jazon (Guest),
02-Mar-10 11:23 AM, #11
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: A couple of things.,
Isildur,
02-Mar-10 11:41 AM, #12
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: A couple of things.,
enlilt (Guest),
02-Mar-10 12:31 PM, #13
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I don't understand you here.,
Mel (Guest),
04-Mar-10 01:50 PM, #29
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: I don't understand you here.,
Isildur,
04-Mar-10 02:21 PM, #32
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: A couple of things.,
Mel (Guest),
04-Mar-10 01:28 PM, #28
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) The policy and my other thoughts,
Jazon (Guest),
04-Mar-10 03:54 PM, #40
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: (DELETED) [EMPIRE] Melememelem the Smiting Fist of ...,
Daevryn,
02-Mar-10 10:55 AM, #10
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) If this isn't Graatch I'll poop my pants.,
Guilo,
02-Mar-10 10:11 AM, #6
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: If this isn't Graatch I'll poop my pants.,
Isildur,
02-Mar-10 10:28 AM, #8
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: (DELETED) [EMPIRE] Melememelem the Smiting Fist of ...,
Enlilth,
02-Mar-10 09:01 AM, #5
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) RE: (DELETED) [EMPIRE] Melememelem the Smiting Fist of ...,
Isildur,
02-Mar-10 10:27 AM, #7
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: (DELETED) [EMPIRE] Melememelem the Smiting Fist of ...,
enlilt (Guest),
02-Mar-10 12:32 PM, #14
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Sounds, etc,
Valkenar,
02-Mar-10 10:30 PM, #20
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: (DELETED) [EMPIRE] Melememelem the Smiting Fist of ...,
In a pool (Guest),
02-Mar-10 07:32 AM, #4
![](./images/mesg_level.gif) RE: (DELETED) [EMPIRE] Melememelem the Smiting Fist of ...,
Isildur,
02-Mar-10 02:19 AM, #2
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Grandmaster melle mel :p nt,
marcus123 (Guest),
02-Mar-10 05:43 AM, #3
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/mesg_level.gif) Something wrong with this name? I don't se...,
Macaca (Guest),
02-Mar-10 10:31 AM, #9
![](./images/middle_mesg_level.gif) ![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) I agree - them fools need to know what time it is n/t,
Flavaflav (Guest),
02-Mar-10 03:37 PM, #17
![](./images/last_mesg_level.gif) Wow? What happened? NT,
TMNS_lazy (Guest),
02-Mar-10 01:57 AM, #1
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